/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>784982

>genderbender

Gender swapping, with a friend or family member, are the best doujins.

It's okay. A lot of stories use it for comedic relief.

>>784987

Do you mean bodyswapping, or still your own bodies, just swapped genders?

Bodyswapping a shit, whether they're opposite sexes or not.

Guess I'll ask here. Is Helvetica retranslatiing Boku Girl? I thought the manga was fully translated by a guy who got asshurt and tried to pull his translations from the internet.

>>784985

>Comparing 3D genital mutilation to 2D magical biological change.

>>784982

When it's surgery or crossdressing then it's utter unredeemable shit.

When it's magical, or magic science, which alters the people at a biological level, then it's okay.

>>785000

No, only the shitty scans are available for the last chapters.

Genderbender is for homosexuals in denial. If you want to fuck someone that was once male, regardless if it's through magic or whatever, you're gay.

>>784985

see >>785002

>>784988

It's either gay or very straight, nothing in between. Honestly it depends on why you're into it.

>>784992

Genderbender, not body swapping.

>>784982

>Look after a shota, try to be fatherly

>His magical Quantum physics perception of me genderbends me into becoming his mother, the worst fate for a Man

>Try to protest, but now my penis is gone, my brain is in a hormone cocktail of pure menopause, and estrogen cusped in maternal instincts

>Don't even get a chance to protest because now i'm completely complacent and under his adorable face, tugging, cries and longing for me and I just want to hold him in my arms hug him tight and tell him everything is going to be alright

>Due to being a mother, now feel fulfilled in life, because I am revolved around being a slave to my biological functions and emotions, these ARE my trapping of logic from now on, and no independent thought of constructive free will can change this.

This is objectively terrifying, and why Genderbending is no different from total ego-death.

>>785013

So a doujin where a husband and wife swap genders for the night? Something like that?

>>785042

The boy became a girl after crossdressing. He grew a pussy and boobs, his dick disappeared.

>>785046

I understand that. I wasn't referring to the manga anon just posted.

>>785051

It's not about self-insertion. Only brainlets self-insert.

The appeal of genderbending is the kinkiness of a girl experiencing being a boy or vice versa.

>>785054

>>785051

Personally I always self insert as the girl/trap.

>>785055

Autogynephilia is a hell of a slippery slope. It's better to crawl out asap before your mind and anus sustain too much damage.

>>785057

Only if you self-insert. Again, per these standards >>785002 there's nothing of the sorts.

>>785069

<the handful of series that are about playing an MMO where the male MC's avatar is female, but nothing ever comes of it

Reminds me of some of the female avatars in Log Horizon, I thought they would do more with Tetra.

>>784982

No. You asked, man.

>>784982

Absolute shit.

fucking ultra-gay, more than traps.

>>785054

>>785060

But what if it's yuri?

>>784996

Except straight traps, obviously. A trap on a girl is not gay.

>>785747

But only if you insert as the trap. Otherwise, you're fixating on the novelty of there being a trap, which is gay.

>>785749

>Self-Insert

Just don't do that at all. The stories aren't about you, but about the characters.

>>785750

It's porn, anon. Anyone who doesn't self-insert likely has an NTR or voyeurism fetish.

>>785754

>It's porn, anon

Not an excuse

>Anyone who doesn't self-insert likely has an NTR or voyeurism fetish

False premise and consequence

Just admit that you're a faggot looking for excuses.

>>785757

Porn exists to titillate and arouse. All I can do is try to deduce your interests from this premise. If you don't masturbate to porn as a means of mentally simulating sex, then I must conclude that there's some other paraphilia that facilitates your arousal.

>>785763

Then again, no arguments and suppositions. Why these suppositions though? Let me try one: you just can't imagine people thinking differently from you as being anything else as not what you want.

Now, people have imaginations, and often the external output is only fuel for thought.

>>785774

I only draw conclusions because there are no conceivable alternatives. Even if you defer masturbation, then you are still either mentally inserting yourself into a sexual situation or masturbating to sex between two or more parties other than yourself.

>>785775

>I only draw conclusions because there are no conceivable alternatives.

Just don't do it.

>Even if you defer masturbation

Never said anything about that, here you go again.

>then you are still either mentally inserting yourself into a sexual situation

Created by my imagination, in my case. Or becoming someone else, in your case.

>or masturbating to sex between two or more parties other than yourself.

Or not, don't try to lay out dichotomies.

>>785776

When you say

>Now, people have imaginations, and often the external output is only fuel for thought.

That implies you are deriving a sexual scenario to insert yourself into based on the content of the hentai manga, no? You don't actually "become someone else" when you self-insert, that's fucking impossible.

>>785778

>That implies you are deriving a sexual scenario to insert yourself into based on the content of the hentai manga, no?

No. Fuel for thought is not self-inserting.

>>785779

Ok, then explain to me what it is.

>>785782

Why should I? Think for yourself, I owe you nothing.

>>785785

Well, let me tell you what this looks like to everyone else: you read hentai, and then use the scenario in the hentai to construct a sexual situation in which to insert yourself. You deny that this is "self-insertion" due to some sort of guilt that you harbor regarding the notion of self-insertion.

>>785790

>you read hentai, and then use the scenario in the hentai to construct a sexual situation in which to insert yourself.

Wrong.

>You deny that this is "self-insertion"

You don't even understand what I'm talking about.

>due to some sort of guilt that you harbor regarding the notion of self-insertion.

Guilt? Not at all.

You see, you can't comprehend people who think different from you, then you start projecting and assuming things. And you're dumb enough to not only don't get what I'm talking about but to misinterpret it to your fitness without even knowing.

How can anyone take you seriously? You're just a waste of time, can't you see it?

>>785793

I asked to you elaborate on what you meant by "fuel for thought," and you refused. This is what I'm left with.

>>785794

>I asked to you elaborate on what you meant by "fuel for thought," and you refused.

Because you're a waste of time, dumb enough to not know what this means.

>This is what I'm left with.

It's your choice to speak bullshit by assuming things. Great to see how you operate, if you don't know about something, then you give it a reasoning of your own.

What the fuck, what a retard.

Seriously, just to end this:

Haven't you ever fapped from your imagination? You read a doujin, you don't need to insert the context in your thought, neither you in that context, you might as well just expand your views and create things yourself.

>"Oh but that would be based on something else"

Life is that way, and it isn't self-inserting.

Fucking brain dead newfags.

>>785796

fuck, I meant Blue's Clues.

>>785796

>>785797

It's a good thing you corrected it, because I'd have serious concerns if you were reimagining all of your porn with a jack russell terrier as the main character.

>>785826

Well I mean

A blue cartoon beagle isn't much better.

>>785846

Season 2 never ever.

Sekainohate de Aimashou was adorable. Honestly one of my favorite manga, it started out really funny but by the end I got sucked into the romance. Usually genderbender and romance aren't my thing but I read it on a whim a couple months ago and it was great. That and your name are my two genderbender exceptions as normally I think it's gay as shit.

>>786688

Read Boku Girl. It will give you a lot of the same feelings.

A lot of people are talking about wanting to swap genders, but I just want to fuck the girl who used to be a dude. What do you call that? I never really thought about it but something about having another man submit so much to you he becomes a woman entirely is my fetish.

>>786774

I don't know anon, genderbending isn't really my thing, but I might check it out, I really fell in love with Sekainohate de Aimashou and it might have been one of the cutest things I've seen and seeing the OP's images made me remember it so I just might read it

>>784999

Ranma has me in a constant spiral and I hate it.

>>790099

Boku Girl is really more romance, character development, and a carefully measured element of lewdness. It's not as funny or as fun as Seikainohate, but it's still one of the best genderbender/tg manga ever published because it is so well written and developed, rather than simply being cliche.

>>790099

>>790394

I'm just going to say it, and I'll be hated by saying it here but it's the truth.

Even though Boku Girl had comedy moments, most of the fun came from reading it from the live TL threads in halfchan. Then the translator threw an autistic fit and leave, and then the archives got erased. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

>>791032

Isn't he recoding it too? Unbelievable.

>>791032

That's how most of these projects go, they usually end up unfinished. A few become patreon projects where they become perpetually bloated and unfinished while a select few actually get completed

>>791042

Press Switch has a few characteristics that set it apart from typical feature creep.

>If you played VNs you know they tend to be focused on a few, but very long routes. This shit is tentacular from the outset, most choices have more than half options greyed out, teasing some paths that sound genuinely interesting.

>Paths that are fleshed out can be long and rather heavy hitting, but off course those too end up in dead end

>Players go, all right, you've made your point, there is a shitload of potential here, now actually finish at least some of this shit so reading it is not literally just waiting for the next dead end

<Okay, okay!

>Fast forward years, game enters the typical "yep, he stopped working on it" limbo like 90% of those games. But there is word of a huge fucking update coming

>It does come out

>It is huge

>Oh boy, time to finally play this without being a cockblock simulator

<Absolutely no work was done on the original content, it's a stand-alone pack of getting back to square one but this time entirely in the all-girls school, focused on one character that was previously secondary

It's not just dicking around, it's purposefully avoiding what everyone wants you to fucking do and going smack dab into the contrary of what everybody asked for. And then working hard for it.

Went digging through the tags to try and find a decent gender bender series again.. and was disappointed to only find a few shitty body swap stories, some crossdressing type shit, and a few shitty isekai/trapped in an MMO type series again.

>>785846

>>785855

I really wanted to like that show. It's better as an idea and doujinshi.

>>800309

And you should be, even if there's plenty of better reason to be pissed at Press Switch.

>>791050

The author's fetish is edging and denial, he exists in a state of permanent erection.

>>809412

You have ruined your life.

No, girls should be girls and boys should be boys.

>>809419

I'm pretty sure it has to be water.

>>809419

It has to be water, and you have to cover the whole boddy, so unless you can pull off and incredibly watery and huge bukake then that's a no.

>>809413

>>809428

Yeah anon, he could be a perfectly respectable pervert, not a degenerate with a mental illness and suicidal tendencies.

>>809428

It's not about the fabric, but the mindset and what it represents.

>>809438

Gender bender is not the same as crossdressing, mentally ill faggot.

>>809439

>>809438

2D is also not the same as 3D, the guy is completely fucked up, he mistakes fiction for reality.

>>809436

No, the cock just shrinks and becomes useless. If crossdressing did give me tits, ass, and a pussy I'd already be decked out in a full Victorian noblewoman's party gown.

>>809446

Makes me wonder if there's a manga or doujin where people take the form they want by wearing different clothes. Sounds like it'd be pretty trash though.

>>809449

It's a concept I've seen done with fetish art, but never in a manga series.

>>784982

>Does /a/ like genderbender?

Only in the context of hentai where the main character meets their parallel universe gender-swapped iteration.

Outside of that most gender-bent stories I read have the problem of making the MC too androgynous from the beginning to the point where they were basically a girl in all but hardware. The other problem is the subtle horror of the death of identity that comes with stories where the MC changes and then eventually goes full on with their new body.

I speak for myself but that shit is terrifying to contemplate. I get someone accepting they are going to be the opposite sex for the rest of their life, but there's always the question in my mind of what would happen if you took 16+ years of living as a guy/girl and shoved that software into a new body; wouldn't you just become a raging homosexual?

>>809611

>Outside of that most gender-bent stories I read have the problem of making the MC too androgynous from the beginning to the point where they were basically a girl in all but hardware.

In other cases, they are literally non-entities, who don't even have faces or personalities until after the transformation takes place. I definitely agree on the point where artists and authors have a bad habit of making the transformee hyper feminine to the point that no one is surprised or bothered when they start acting girly. KashiMashi was especially guilty of this.

>>809628

>In other cases, they are literally non-entities, who don't even have faces or personalities until after the transformation takes place

That's the other side of it, stories where there isn't an idea for who this person was before the transformation outside of some anecdotal statements.

>>809625

Gintoki acting like a total airhead was great, as well as expected.

I'm going to guess that these posts I see attacking this are from crossboarders.

So yeah, know how half of futa comics has a chick whipping out a secret dick? What if it was a cute guy revealing a secret pussy, that he was a full hermaphrodite? Like a Genos or Sonic Speed of Sound or something?

Would you fuck him?

>>785002

Alps are still gay anon.

>>815763

Nope, girls with too boyish of a figure just aren't attractive.

Gender Bender was an interesting phase for me. The best version was always Guy-turns-into-girl meets Girl, but only a handful ever make it a true Yuri ending. Most of the time it ends on the standard ecchi-romance.

I think the best one I saw in terms of Hentai was the one where some guys gang-raped a "girl" who was genderbent, became girls themselves, get hooked on Dick, and only the MC manages to get turned back by having lesbian sex with his true love.

>>785024

But that's not the first image is imaginary, the second is a response to that imaginary scene, and the third and fourth are the last two pages of the series, set years after she decided to remain a girl due to falling for the love interest. Mind control was, ironically one of the few tropes NOT used in that series.

Oh and can I just take a moment to express my HATRED for rushed as shit endings in this genre? First with Boku girl and now with Sekainohate, solid start, a middle that drags on for ages (largely for the sake of failed jokes and stretching things for no reason) and then an ending that only REALLY lasts a half dozen pages or so! Have nips never heard of fucking pacing? jesus chirst...

>>785774

>Says stop doing what I don't like

>later says "You just can't handle people thinking differently than you"

>>826935

Cream Lemon I think.

>>784982

Personally I think it's because if you have a bunch of men transplanted into women, you'll get bunch of women that understands honour, persistence and sacrifice. And men will fight wars over who gets quality women like that.

>>809459

You know what i just remembered. A old ecchi manga series called Futaba-kun Change! i have the first few volumes. It was weird as fuck.