/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>776906

>Miki looks cute in this

Oh no

>>776937

>spoilers

>for a series older than some anon's parents

But assuming you're serious, you don't have to worry about in-thread spoilers anyway, since the show is hitting all at once.

I remember Devilman so many years ago, now it's time to relive the suffering.

All the previews they keep showing us is Akira when he starts gaining more self confidence and acting cooler. My favorite parts of Devilman is where you see Akira act like a timid cry baby that needed a tomboy like Miki to protect him until he is possessed by Amon and starts gaining both power in strength and personality

Oh yeah and I think its out I dont have netflix so I guess we wait for rips

>>776976

Eh it will be a fun watch however half of us already know devilman the only fun thing now is watching newfags react to the suffering

All 10 episodes have been released today,from what i´ve seen from the first episode its actually not a really bad reboot.

>>777051

but disney does not own netflix?

>>777079

It's Netflix. What would you have expected?

>>777079

You have to go back.

>>777082

I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix's conditon was that PC shit gets added.

It's the first "Netflix original", and there is a gay side character who wasn't in the original manga.

>>777092

>It's the first "Netflix Original"

What about the castlevania "anime"?

>>777094

Made by an American studio.

It isn't an anime.

>>777096

I find it hard to believe the animation quality was western.

>>777097

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania_(TV_series) The animation is also clearly Wester

>>777079

bad animation?

>>777097

>Castlevania is an American adult animated web television series based on the 1989 video game Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse by Konami. The series follows Trevor Belmont, who defends the nation of Wallachia from Dracula and his minions. Originally planned as a film with a script written by Warren Ellis in 2007, the project entered development hell until about 2015, where it was finally funded with help from animation studios Frederator Studios and Powerhouse Animation Studios, along with Netflix

There's no excuse for being this retarded.

>>777107

and better than the OVAs?

I like how people are freaking out over the deaths and gore in crybaby yet Crybaby is some how LESS edgier than the other works.

>>777137

Very familiar, I think I've seen it before somewhere...

>>777137

Jesus Christ Amon

>>777117

The OVAs are great though.

I don't like this.

Could this show atleast get soundtrack of the year? Like holy fuck.

>>777207

Explain.

Finished it, I personally am quite unhappy with the changes they did.

That they changed Miki from a tomboy to a kind hearted earnest girl, was a terrible decison.

There have been some animation highlights, but there were also some QUALITY moments, and they managed to create a more retarded running style than Naruto.

It never really came to a devilman vs human war, the devilman were on the side of the humans.

Even the ending was changed, Ryo didn't really realize his mistakes, and only really cared about his "love" for Akira.

The anime is still above average, but can't really ba called an adaption. Too much was changed, this is a story lightly based on Devilman, and is not the adaption that I wanted.

>>777211

>Could this show atleast get soundtrack of the year?

Far too early to call it soundtrack of the year, it's only January.

I personally enjoyed the soundtrack, but wasn't blown away by it.

>>777079

That looks hot, to be quite honest.

>>777154

I'm pretty interested, but the OVAs were really good, and Devilman just kind of sits in my mind like that. I don't see this making as big of an impact.

In the end I can say I enjoyed it, but it was all over the place. The original manga had pacing issues too, to be sure, but most of the ones crybaby had were introduced as new elements. What exactly was the point of Miko when all was said and done, really? Why was her subplot with the rapper included but then just cut off and then the completely unrelated literal fag who looks distractingly similar shows up as a devilman to move the plot forward with almost no introduction? etc. They could have done a much better job with Ryo in a lot of ways, too, the Satan reveal and ending just felt kind of "oh, ok, whatever" in this version

I think it's probably best to think of this as very much its own thing rather than a direct adaptation of the original. Wish they would've used a different style for the characters during the 'normal' scenes, though, it looks great during weird and colorful abstract shit but just kind of flat and bad all the rest of the time.

>>777270

Because in the anime, Miki?Miko? ate the yellow shades man with hints of the corpse rotting in her room and the fact that she carries his shades. (which the beanie fag also tries to kill her even after everything)

The only thing I'm truly ticked off is that most of the fight scenes are so fucking dark, yeah it's night but it's a full moon in each scene.

>>777274

All that and the severed hand they showed at some point made it pretty clear, yeah, I was mostly complaining that it was an abrupt and kind of pointless character arc, considering they went to the bother of adding original characters like that in the first place. I guess maybe they added second Miko to act as a foil to Miki, since Miki had so much of a personality change from the original version.

>>777279

The only thing I don't understand is the Taro becoming a demon, was it the cat or something, I know the cat played an actual role in the original manga instead of being out of nowhere during devilman's rally and final fight. I do agree with the Mako being almost undeveloped until the very end.

>>777345

Was I supposed to laugh while the Devilman are running?

Because I did laugh quite a lot.

>>777345

Is the back supposed to wobble like this as if it's about to break?

>>777079

I'd hate to play devil's advocate (no pun intended), but this series is about a teenager who's life gets ruined in every single timeline he exists in because his best friend's almost literal faggotry knows no bounds.

Go Nagai's written gayer. What about that one little bitch kid that jizzes himself over the thought of a tiger eating him in Violence Jack?

>>777327

God, that OVA was terrible.

>>776937

To be fair I hated how Mary Sue she was in this incarnation, good thing I knew beforehand she would have a brutal and gruesome death.

>>777345

I think they made it on purpose like some sort of homage to the campy animation of the original series?

>>777442

I didn't and it was horrible especially how her her family Tako and Miko

>>777444

how they gruesomely and how Akira died too in some sort of evangelion-esque ending, I think it gave me ptsd

>>776937

>Miko is less popular than a girl with smaller tits than her

Didn't knew girls could also be beta

>>777327

it's like they spent their whole budget with Amon's fight with those random demons

>>777456

lovED

>>777458

I don't think so, in the manga is pretty obvious he loved Akira since the beginning, while in crybaby it's more like he gets sad because he lost the only friend he ever had and experience sadness for the first time in his entire life.

>>777462

> the manga is pretty obvious he loved Akira since the beginning

There's the scene in Crybaby in which Ryo is portrayed as the prince taking Akira away from Miki. The SoL moments also have lots of fujobait.

>>777466

If she had survived do you think she would had gave birth to Akira's child through Kaim's asshole?

>>777477

I think so

>>777458

Doesn’t that shit get even stranger in Devilman Lady and Violence Jack?

Does this series implies the original Devilman happened in one of the reboot cycles made by god? Since there is an anime and manga of the original Devilman in Crybaby just like it had in Devilman Lady

>>777591

probably?

Is the manga as edgy as the anime?

Didn't like too much having a little boy's head impaled with a bolt and a school girl beheaded just to parade with it

Neither I like having a little demon girl eaten.

>>777602

Less sexed up due to Nagai's editors keeping him from being completely unhinged by 70's shounen manga standards, similar amount of edge. Even though crybaby differed in a lot of ways it definitely felt like something Nagai would've signed off on.

>>777602

>little boy's head impaled with a bolt

Are you sure you watched Crybaby? I remember this in that shitty Amon OVA

>>777607

I was talking about the Amon OVA. Is the Crybaby version as edgy as the others?

>>777613

Yeah it is, sometimes even more than the manga Akira raping Silene didn't happened in the original story

>>777614

I never liked Devilman too much. Yet I kinda like Violence Jack.

>>777626

Because she wanted Amon's dick, not Akira's.

>>777614

It was originally planned to be a thing, but Nagai got shot down by his editors because they thought it was too much for a shonen. He claimed it would be cool to have Devilman rape Sirene while fighting and that he wanted to push the bounds of shonen.

>>777619

Strange, considering it's the sequel to Devilman.

>>777629

Akira was technically using amons dick.

The kicker was is that it wasnt her husbando amon.

It makes me kinda feel bad for Silene but shes a demon so go get fucked.

>>777632

Oh, that is a surprise. I thought Violent Jack was generic postapocalyptic stuff.

I like it because Jack doesn't need to suffer and just makes the bad guys pay horribly for their sins.

>>777636

is it? it didn't tickle my kino pickle that much

>>777638

It is kino if you are both a cyborg 009 and Devilman fanboy

>>777640

you right, I watched the original cyborg 009 when I was a wee boy but now I would reconsider since I saw crybaby

>>777641

*I would reconsider watching the 009 vs devilman crossover

I was apprehensive when I saw Masaaki Yuasa's name attached to this, but now I'm glad he directed it. It's an interesting take on Devilman, to be sure.

>>777636

Yeah, I was hoping we were going to get more of this Devilman back when this was first announced, but now we have a new Devilman cycle to enjoy.

>>777669

Cyborg 009 vs Devilman was made to fit inside both original stories, they even showed when the OVA takes place(just after Akira defeats Jinmen and just before Psycho Jenny brings back Satan's memories)

>>777675

So, 009 vs Devilman is actually manga Devilman and not another cycle?

>>777678

Pretty much, not that Nagai confirmed, but it fits perfectly in the continuity of the manga without any plotholes or incoherencies

forgot to ask.link for the soundtrack?

But where's the heavy metal?

>>777732

We have downright orgasmic shit like this, which is also the best soundtrack in the anime hands down.

>>777769

I don't think it matters if the president turns out to be a demon, if hes killed by Akira bad shit will end up happening, not just in the show irl too maybe. So you see how big of a shitstorm that could possibly end up becoming? Im suprised that they just had him in a cameo at least.

Devilman Crybaby made me into a crybaby too.

>>777923

yeah, it's on the top ten of the anime who gave me ptsd for me

>>777923

It's not as bad if you've read the manga because you know that it's coming. I still cried though.

It's probably why I didn't mind Miki being a paragon of virtue and a blatant Jesus allegory. Her family being Catholic in this adaptation is outright funny though, that's just hammering in the point too blatantly.

>>778016

What I find weird is how her family is foreigner but they still have japanese names

>>777458

It's not perfect, but the change in dialogue works thematically since the show wanted to emphasize Ryo's lack of empathy as a tragic flaw. I understand why they changed it at least. They wanted to double down on the despair Ryo had as Ryo rather than elaborate on Satan's motivations for exterminating humanity.

>>778018

her dad is a foreigner her mother is Japanese

>>777923

>>778016

I remember watching the OVAs for the 1st time I almost crapped my fucking pants when the cross bow bolt hit Taro. The OVA didn't show Mikis head get chopped off but it showed her feet struggling the entire scene is just heart breaking for anyone who had no experience with Devilman before hand

>>777499

Its alright man I got a weird boner from the intro to Devilman: The Birth

>>778071

>>>/lakeoffire/

>>778082

Violence Jack or Devilman Lady next

>>778084

I might read Devilman Lady but it'll be in the future at some point. I have a feeling Go Nagai's manga is basically all the same thematically.

>>778085

Yes and no its kinda complicated Devilman/Violence Jack gets kinda weird even for manga standards.

>>778103

Ryo is such a badass he doesn't take his shoes off inside the house

HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT

>>778082

I kind of liked that it was brief, it happened all at once and you don't have the time to process it but then it starts to settle in

>>777864

Is this the 1st anime soundtrack with Retro wave?

>>778321

it still hurts

>>778316

Its why Toro became a demon in this he was obsessed with them

>>778337

what was the deal with the people in the test tubes an the "vr" visor?

>>778340

Did you read the manga? She was a test subject used to create the Devil Hunting armor suits. The vr is probably used to try and stimulate her demon responses so they can devise methods of counteracting her fluids.

>>778348

Its the one of many cycles I want to say

>>778337

Those guys that killed Psychogene were using the armors, I think

>>778344

no, and I'm still on crybaby's emotional wild ride to delve on the manga

Best song.

>>778491

il ritornello lascia un pò a desiderare

>>778505

I read the first chapter but I drop it, this was three years ago

>>778506

Funny because the first chapter was the worst one. It's like Nagai wanted to try and see what he could get away with by slowly escalating things from a simple shounen plot his executives forced on him. What he ended up with was the greatest subversion of the Superhero genre I've ever seen that ends in an apocalypse where the hero loses.

People don't realise how much this manga affected the industry and influenced things such as Eva.

>>778518

I guess that's why I drop it, I think I was re reading berserk from the first chapter while waiting for the new one

>>778524

if it makes you feel better I used to watch the

original mazinger z and loved it

>>778529

manga, first OVA, crybaby?

>>778529

Additionally, what read order makes the most sense? I read the original Devilman years ago and I wasn't sure what to read next because the series seems like a horrible clusterfuck of continuity.

>>778518

Wasn't there supposed to be a final battle with Devilman and everything fighting God?

>>778531

>>778529

Production order

Holy shit how many times do you fucking newfags need this hammered into your head.

>>778558

I have no idea how that works for shit like Violence Jack that people say is part of the story but isn't translated, or Cutie Honey.

>>777466

The Silene episode doesn't really work within the context of the show. The question of whether or not demons could love is unimportant after that episode even though they bother to reference it in the next episode.

I guess the question is sort of relevant with Satan's love for Akira, but he's an angel, not a demon, at least in the context of this universe.

>>778561

>I have no idea how that works for shit like Violence Jack

You watch based on when the shit came out, this isn't a hard concept to understand.

>>778581

>check the production order.

Fixed.

If you watch chronological order, don't come around bitching when things make less than the production order.

>>778603

make less *sense.

As edgy as expected.

I don't like Devilman. I wont say it's shit but I don't like it at all.

>>778364

Meh, too much "kyaaa~"

>>778809

>people would see Devilman the way we do

like watching the first and second renaissance shorts of the animatrix?

>>778809

I think most people are ok with Crybaby being a sequel placed in a future cycle made by God. And too be honest I'm actually happy that they made something new with the series instead of making a copypaste of the original manga like they did with JoJo Stardust Crusaders anime.

>>778833

the most unrealistic thing Go Nagai ever did in his manga is depicting Hitler as a talented artist

>>778820

Last panel will always be my favorite manga panel. Makes you think Akira has it all the power to stop demons and the girl of his dreams is falling for him.

>>778364

How shitty is Japan in Devilman that a school girl needs to walk home with a razor blade

>>778883

hmm... Does Devilman take place in the Osaka district?

>>777636

Doesn't that mean that Cyborg 009 ultimately has a bad end?

So, how does the manga ends? I don't want to read edgy stuff and end cutting my veins.

Does it really end with the hero being killed by edgy transatan?Does it continue with Devilwoman? or that is an alternative universe more than a sequel?

>>778940

Oh please, have you never actually read a tragedy?

And also, most of the works of Devilman you can consider to be sort of like the Zelda games. They're sorta connected, but also sort of the same basic story slightly remixed.

>>778958

Well... one thing is tragedy, and other thing is murdering all the side characters in torturous rape gory ways and have the main character defeated out of the screem like if he never had any chance.

It only needs Linkin Park.

>>779016

ULTIMATE SOLDIER!

>>779016

That was a terrible ova, but fun as shit.

>Akira killing the witch hunters after seeing mikis head

>No pool of blood

Dammit burning them was to easy

>>779068

To be fair, burning is much more painful than exploding in gore.

Alright so a majority of people seem to like this adaption

>Newfags seem to be giving it a 10/10

>oldfags are giving it strong 8s and 9s

Think anymore of Nagais work will be adapted? Or should we try some new stuff?

>>779081

I haven't read the manga but I wouldn't give the anime a 10/10.

there are parts that feel pretty rushed even if it was intentional, I'll give it a strong 9 or 9.1

Interview with Yuasa with Japanese Buzzfeed.

Translation from: https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2018/01/08/devilman-crybaby-interview-with-director-masaaki-yuasa/

<You’ve talked about your love for the original Devilman in the past. Would you say that this anime adaptation is a long-held wish come true?

No actually, I wouldn’t have dreamed of it in a million years. I had worked with Aniplex for Ping Pong the Animation, and when we entered talks to work together again, they were the ones who suggested Devilman. It had left a strong impression on me when I read it as a kid, but I loved it purely as a fan. I’d never have imagined animating it.

Devilman is a classic that’s been adapted many times, so thinking hard about how I’d approach it, I came to the conclusion that it’d be a difficult project to go forward with. But also that I’d like to see if I was up to the challenge. I’ve personally been feeling at the top of my game lately too, so I thought, “I bet it’d come out well now.” I committed to it rather hastily (laughs).

<I was surprised at how sexual and violent it gets right from episode 1. I can’t imagine you could get away with this on TV…

Yet Nagai-sensei did all of this in a shonen magazine.

If you look at his later works, they’re even more extreme. So I get the feeling that Devilman might have actually been on the restrained side, as a shonen series. That’s why I went into it with the mindset of, “If Nagai-sensei could have done as he pleased, he’d have gone this far,” or “I bet he really wanted to do it like this.” It’s a series that’s over 40 years old now, but there’s a lot that feels relevant to the world today. It was worth adapting in that sense as well.

<I see the delinquents have been modernized as rappers. You even have artists who are active in the hip-hop scene like Ken the 390 and Hannya playing them.

It wouldn’t feel right if we had delinquents acting like they came straight out of the 70s. I feel like rappers are the people who speak what’s on their minds today. Having professionals really gives it that impact, and it’s nice that they stand out in the street passionately explaining what’s happening (laughs).

<While we’re on music, Denki Groove’s “Man Human,” used for the opening animation, is so awesome it gave me chills.

It’s really great. The animated sequence is the work of Abel Gongora.

As for the music in the show itself, I asked Kensuke Ushio, who I worked with on Ping Pong, to make the main characters, Akira Fudo and Ryo Asuka, appear cool. In the show, you can also hear “Devilman no Uta” sung by Avu-chan from Ziyoou-vachi. We even had Avu-chan play Xenon in the show itself.

<I hear there are several episodes where a single animator draws all of the key animation.

There are two of them. Episode 4 is by (Tomohisa) Shimoyama, and episode 9 is by (Takashi) Kojima. Episode 5 is pretty much all (Kiyotaka) Oshiyama so maybe that one counts as well.

Oshiyama also worked on the devil designs, which are separate from the regular character designs. So make sure to check out the devils he came up with, which are creepy-crawly, but also have a lovable side.

<These solo key animation episodes are pretty rare in TV anime. Is there a reason for this?

It’s for the best that it’s like this. For many reasons, it’s now become standard practice to divide up an episode into small chunks for animation. A solo approach makes some things complicated and others easy, and generally we’re better off sticking to the usual ways.

Being able to leave everything to one person is reassuring in terms of managing the production. And as a director, it’s nice to only have one person to explain everything to (laughs). Though of course it requires someone with both great skills and speed, so not everyone can do it. I had a wonderful team for this show, which is why we could pull it off.

<When the show was announced, I remember you said, “I want to make it Ryo Asuka’s story.” If you had to say though, the protagonist is still Akira, isn’t it?

The protagonist, Akira, is steadfast in his resolve from beginning to end. On the other hand, you could say Ryo develops throughout the story, or faces internal changes and struggles at least.

On closer reading, the work begins and ends with Ryo. Akira is there to teach him something. That’s how I approached the work for this adaptation.

>>779127

<I first saw the show without reading the original, and man, that ending… I was left speechless when I finished it.

Yeah, the ending is really what gives the story its impact. As a kid, I don’t think I understood the meaning of that final scene, but even then, it left an overwhelming impression on me.

Besides Akira and Ryo’s story, the character I felt I had to get right was Miki. Why is Akira so attached to Miki, and where does her hope come from? And building on that, why does Ryo come to love Akira? What is it that Ryo takes away from meeting Akira and Miki? I set out to show just how the emotions of these three intertwine.

<What Ryo takes away from it… You’ve said before, “In the end, it’s about love.” Is that what you meant?

That’s right. It’s about what Ryo learns in the end. I set out to make the show with that in mind.

Ryo meets Akira at a young age, and Akira is the only one who supports him. Deep in Ryo’s heart, he feels that Akira is the one thing in the world worth keeping, but he doesn’t realize it. We as humans can value others by more than if they’re “strong” or “weak”, as would be logical. There’s something more important than the rules of natural order. I want the viewer to see just how Ryo comes to this realization.

<In 2017, you worked on two theatrical releases, and Lu Over the Wall won the top prize at the Annecy International Animated Film Festival. Do you think you could talk a bit about what must have been a year full of changes?

Actually, things haven’t changed as much as I thought they would, even though I made two movies!

<Really?!

Yeah, they really haven’t (laughs). I hope a lot of people watch DEVILMAN crybaby, and that it leads to something new in the future. In terms of my own ability, it really feels like I’m at my peak. It’s as if I can accomplish anything!

>>779081

For me it's a weak 7.

Good music, action scenes were lacking, there are some smaller plotholes, and the animation had some QUALITY scenes.

I still enjoyed it, and think it's worth watching. It's just nothing which I will rewatch.

>>779184

I kinda disliked style, but its brilliant. They save budget for cool looking scenes. Although I think they should have kept characters look closer to manga and less generic-gay.

>>776906

I like hip hop but I swear I feel like the japs cannot rap for the life of them

>>779194

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>779087

>this show is surreal. The art style initially took me some getting used to but I'm ok with it now, and I actually kind of like it

Did you not know Masaaki Yuasa before this? His art style is always like this.

>>779207

Yeah but I feel like netflix jewed him his art style could have been alot better in Crybaby

>>779081

I kind of want Cutie Honey, but unlike Devilman, you can't make that current year propaganda friendly without changing a lot. The bad guys were explicitly referred to as evil feminists IIRC.

I honestly doubt Netflix would be so blatantly antitheist that they try going for Maou Dante.

Shin Great Mazinger is a pipe dream, but it would be crazy awesome. Netflix might try going for Violence Jack, but that isn't a clear sequel to Devilman; same goes for Devilman Lady.

Rather than trying to adapt another Nagai Go work, I'm betting they'll try for Tezuka. Kimba the White Lion would be funny in light of Disney leaving Netflix.

Personally, I'd give it about a 8. Animation needed more oompf sometimes, and the coloring was too dark most of the time. The Miko subplot was meh overall even if the ending to it was pretty good. Some of things changed felt like they were changed into something worse, especially the Silene episode, though most of the changes work in the context of the themes the series was trying to focus on or the fact that it was made into one flowing and continuous storyline. I actually like Akira being more of a blatant crybaby, since it was an easy visual cue to show that he had a heart of a human.

>>779087

I hate that Netflix calls it season 1 when it's blatantly the only season.

>>779232

>I hate that Netflix calls it season 1 when it's blatantly the only season

Yeah, guess I was just going off of what it (Netflix) and IMDb were saying since that site lists the year it came out as "(2018 - )" rather than just "(2018)" for whatever reason, implying it's still ongoing rather than complete

>>779232

>>779242

Muh Violence Jack however I kinda think Violence Jack is one of his weaker works but thats just me.

>>779243

Original Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, or Cutie Honey would be nice, but I doubt any of those would be Netflix's next target.

>>779243

I finished reading it yesterday and in compared to devilman it's a bit worst

>>779232

>I kind of want Cutie Honey, but unlike Devilman, you can't make that current year propaganda friendly without changing a lot. The bad guys were explicitly referred to as evil feminists IIRC.

There's already a new Cutie Honey TV anime planed for this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DkzHxMqaK0

>>777458

God did nothing wrong.

Well that was different. It was fun getting to experience Devil Man again in a slightly different way.

>>778018

I think there's meant to be some law that foreigners who are citizens need Japanese names for legal documents.

>>779243

>>779336

Ironically, Violence Jack is less edgy than Devilman, and I like it. It is about how the representation of violence becomes the biggest undefeatable institution of justice.

But to be honest I liked it more when I thought it was it's own series about a postapocalyptic world, not a post demonwar world.

>>779358

isn't it a post apocalyptic world?

>>779362

I guess so, but I was thinking more about Fist of the North Star than being a sequel to Devilman.

Anyway, how did Devilman Lady end?

>>779363

I don't know, I haven't read it and I suppose I'll skip it

>>779397

but why the donkey noises if the scene before didn't have them?

I thought the ending where everyone on earth just randomly turned into psycho assholes was incredibly cliché. It felt totally forced and nonsensical like in danganronpa where somehow a bunch of dumb highschoolers managed to destroy all of humanity.

>>779399

Shes a demon?

>>779422

that happened before her transformation

So how's the rape then?

>>778820

In Crybaby she felt more like an oblivious hypocrite bitch than Jesus for me.

>>779399

because Akira's dick is big as a donkey's

>>779445

a guy rapes a demon girl so hard his head explode

>>779579

I thought the japs were so strict with drugs that having as much of a whiff of the stuff ruins your life

>>779643

it gets better

>>779644

But does it change? If it's like this throughout, I'm not going to be able to maintain interest.

Thanks for telling me to read the manga, /a/. That was a hell of a ride.

>>779650

Yes, a lot, if you don't know anything about the source material it's going to be a wild ride

>>779660

Haven't watched it yet. To be honest, the artstyle of Crybaby puts me off. In addition to hearing about some of the changes from this thread, it just doesn't seem like something i'd really enjoy. The OST for it is top tier, though. I'd prefer for it to remain true to the manga.

Is the 1972 anime more true to the story?

>>779670

The changes in Crybaby are actually fine when you realize that it's actually a sequel instead of a remake

>>779670

>To be honest, the artstyle of Crybaby puts me off.

Understandable. Yuasa isn't for everyone.

>Is the 1972 anime more true to the story?

Not at all. It's less true. Basically, the story goes like this: Toei wanted a superhero anime series where the hero uses dark powers instead of light powers, because it was briefly a popular idea when some other character like that was a hit with the kids. So they ask Nagai to make something like that. Nagai complies by turning the genre on it's fucking head because that's what Nagai does. He pushes shounen to the extreme. Toei says, okay whatever you can have you manga, at least we got a devil superhero we can use to sell toys with the anime. And so the anime became demon of the week Ultraman with some neat visuals, demons, and scenes. But it's extremely removed from the manga to the point of nonrecognition, like ALL Nagai adaptation were until the 80's OVA boom. I like the OP and ED, at least.

>>779671

Also, this.

>>779670

So, what did you think of the manga?

By the way, the first two OVAs in the 80's were the best adaptations of it, but the story was never finished. It ends at Silene's death.

>>779680

Felt a little slow at times, but I loved how it escalated in the later volumes. Especially when Ryou starts piecing together that he's Satan and the end game hits.

The Silene part was great as well.

>>779691

>no justification for slaughter

Now I agree with the war sentiment, but let's be honest the world would be a better place if certain groups were slaughtered. Like fat people.

>>779702

Go Ngagai ran out of ideas and Bamco wanted a new series?

>>777864

D E B I R U W A V E

>>778348

They pulled an Evangelion reboot before the reboots could be finished

>>780077

>They pulled an Evangelion reboot before the reboots could be finished

Every Devilman sequel/spin-off is a cycle, in case you didn't know. Devilman was doing that a long time ago.

>>780090

that would be a happy ending

>>780090

Didn't god in the Devilman/Demon Lord Dante franchise started the entire war because he was bored and wanted to be entertained?

>>780090

The deity in devilman is portrayed as more of a powerful space alien that did genetic experiments on Earth, demons being a failed experiment he sought to wipe out. He also has a button to set the universe in a time loop, making him technologically advanced.

The epitome of wasted potential. Having no prior experience to this series besides Grimoire, I found this to be just a plain terrible show. Animation is ass, voice acting is fine till it's engrish, pacing is terrible, every character is a terrible person, Amon doesn't really exist as his own character, and it feels like it tells you little to nothing about so many characters backstories. Ambiguity can be a powerful story telling device but definitely isn't used well here. Then there's just the fact it's absolutely miserable. I know it's a dark as fuck gore fest but damn. Not even the fights felt hype. It just was a huge slog.

I read the manga and for me they both have goods in their merit, also flaws

>>780232

Okay, calm down, Kyle.

>>780247

now you sound like those who say they were born in the wrong era of music/film/comic books/video games

You're on 8ch mate, you should know by now we were literally born in le wrong generation

>>780084

I did not know that no, so thank you for telling me

>>780527

I knew him from ping pong the animation and tatami galaxy and the movie mindgame so I was a little bit surprised

>>780232

Best post of the thread

>>781060

Here's my excuse. I don't like the series enough based on what I've seen to look anymore into it.

>>779275

>dubcuck calls others soyboys

Back to >>>/reddit/

>>779656

Crybaby is a sequel series not an adaptation. How this is lost people who read the original manga baffled me.

>>781060

Manga wasn't a little better and pacing was even more abysmal to be honest.

>>779081

Where the fuck is Shin Great Mazinger? I've been waiting for 8 years.

>>783663

Seriously, I need somebody to give me at least a modicum of hope on this.

>>779672

I love it when anime lacks detail and people try to defend it with "muh unique". It's almost as bad as people defending the use of cel-shading to cover shit graphics with the line "It's so creative!"

Someone please list all Devilman media in order of it coming out. I don't know where to start.

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