/a/ - Animu & Mango

>No new thread since the last one died

The latest chapter was alright, not a lot to discuss besides that chick's terrible fucking dialogue.

At the rate the anime progresses we'll still have a few years before it catches up.

There was an entire box full of Boku no Hero Academia posters at my local Walmart. It just felt terribly wrong. How something nice from Japan has become so commoditized to the lowest common denominator that it sits on the floor of Walmart. I don't like where things are going.

>>773953

>At the rate the anime progresses we'll still have a few years before it catches up.

Honestly, so long as the animation keeps up I have zero problems.

>>773958

That's always been the case with Shonen Jump stuff. In latin America you could find Saint Seiya stuff being sold by street vendors in the subway and in farmer's markets. I got my first Dragonball toy at a regular department store when I was 5 or 6. You could and still can find Naruto stuff everywhere. Don't act like that kind of stuff is new.

illegals 16 when

>>774044

Pretty decent.

>>774047

That image is cancer; please delete it.

I am so fucking excited.

Why is there no chapter this week

fuck this manga

>>774696

Hori is probably busy dying thanks to jump.

>>774696

>>774758

It's up on Niggastream. It's back to the enjoyable pacing that has been declining all year.

>>774861

I guess those smacks created small explosions in his brain, making him the way he is.

>>774861

>>774983

Nah, it was literally that he got a massive ego from a young age because everyone kept praising him for having such a strong quirk. A lot of kids were probably afraid of him too, soi he kept acting out causing his parents to slap him around for being a violent retard.

>be Endeavor

>know that you will never top All Might

>decide to force your son to be better than All Might despite him having half your underachieving herolet genes

This man is a retard.

>>775041

>Make a "be whatever" type of post

>"herolet"

>talking about genetics as if they work as described in Metal Gear Solid

Endeavor is an idiot but I have this hunch you might be one too.

>>774861

>Soon he'll turn as brain damaged as Ippo.

Will he reach Benoit levels of brain damage ?

>>775483

Who the fuck thought that shit would be appropriate?

>>775589

In best case scenario, she talks like a walking tumor in nip as well.

In worst case, she ends her sentences with "-ssu" and the translators thought it would be "hilarious" to "ironically" use "cool hip internet slang".

>>775590

What can you expect from niggerstream.

But where is Illegals 16?

I enjoyed these two last chapters quite a lot actually.

Gang Orca was great, Endeavor gets some spotlight, and the whole little kids being pests always manages to amuse me.

>>776064

Chinese year of the fire dog.

>>775613

Too bad Hori will get sick and it will all fall apart

>>776339

Muda.

>>776339

10/edge

But some reason that object looks like some paper. So, paper cut?

>>775041

>herolet genes

>The only hero that's better has a special power that's has nothing to do with genes and passes on to whoever he choses.

The only retard here is you.

>>777074

Despite that, the continual irregular breaks really is becoming a problem.

It'd be one thing if Horikoshi was doing it like Oda, and we got a break every fourth week, but it's straight up he's working himself too hard, and then collapsing.

At this point I'd be fine if the art quality took a hit or some shit, just so he could keep up a regular schedule.

>>775589

I just assumed she was supposed to sound obnoxious.

>>775589

>>775590

There's a line about how she was chosen by Toga because she talks weird and nonsensical so it was harder for people to realize it wasn't actually here, and character repeatedly state how she talks in a nonsensical manner.

>>777421

>Naruto filler tier bullshit.

Oh fuck off. The arc wasn't that great but stop pretending like it was absolute cancer. It wasn't nearly as good as any of the other arcs, but comparing it to Naruto filler just makes you sounds like an asshurt faggot that wants to see the story turn to shit.

>>777427

What's wrong with Naruto?

>>777594

>sasuke

>not ending after pain

>filler

>sasuke

>rock lee left to dust

>bullshit powerups

>sasuke

>>777421

>He just spent an entire year stretching an OVA-tier arc to the point where any impact or ideas he was juggling with lost any appeal and he cut the shit short. That whole arc could be written out of the story and nothing would suffer because of it.

Wrong on 2 accounts:

1) Arcs that don't "advance the plot" are not bad. You need a break sometimes.

2) To claim that nothing vital happens (quirk removing serum, face-man getting his hand on it) is retarded.

You can argue that the arc had bits that were badly executed or focused too much on side characters we will never see again (or will we?), but that's about it.

In short, you are retarded.

>>777625

Any episode not focusing on Asui getting her frog pussy pounded is a wasted episode.

>>777594

Devolved from an anime where the protagonist dealt with new situations by learning new skills to a power level anime where the protagonist dealt with new situations by increasing his chakra.

Imagine the same manga but with less focus on gay drama, and instead of Naruto's response to new opponents being "I need to figure out how to use my fox chakra better" it was "I'll learn a new ability to counter my enemy's powers".

When things started it was fun because he was learning to climb trees, walk on water, use ninja tools, smart ways to use his shadow clones, but by the end of the series Naruto only really knows how to make clones, how to use the rasengan, and frog summon. All his other powers are just power ups (sage mode, fox mode or whatever the fuck that's called), and the final battle ends with him "holding hands" with Sasuke. Plenty of good shonen friendship stories out there do things much better than Naruto does.

Plus fillers, but I didn't even watch all of the anime, I watched some of it when I was a teen, but I mostly read the mango.

Sageru for off topic.

>>777834

>spend entirety of Yakuza arc bitching and nitpicking about every single tedious affront for countless threads

So you're the retard I was talking to in those threads.

You fucking drama queen, I believe people in those threads mostly agreed it was the weakest arc so far and that if things kept going that way it would be bad for the series, but not the disaster you were selling it as. The only people who were really mad at it were you and that one guy who could not stop crying about Kirishima being the author's favorite, his self insert and other stupid shit like that.

>>777889

I always like a good arc about beating up children, I just hope it's short.

>>777834

>follow the most loud group or else I'm gonna call you names

Yeah, not working bud. You might wanna try an approach that uses actual reason and argument rather than pathetic attempts at social pressure (like that's gonna work) and Argumentum Ad Populum.

Getting accused of being a shill/tumblerite/redditor/whatever on 8chan has as much impact on me as being accused of being a CIS white man mysoginist.

For the retarded: It has the opposite effect of the one you want.

>>777946

What a tryhard post. Still doesn't change the fact that /a/ are hypocrites.

>>777952

What the literal fuck is wrong with you bud? He basically coceded you that point, he's just saying, rightfully I might add, that you're a tryhard.

Complaining about critique is far more annoying than an anon moaning about the series.

Except there wasn't any moaning anyway, most anons were unhappy with the arc and glad to see it resolve because it wasn't up there with the rest of the series and felt like Hori was struggling to get it done.

We're all really just wanting Hori to get his health together so it can stop screwing with his writing and pacing.

>>778406

>if you complain about spammers you are worse than them :^)

>>778414

What fucking spam? You are a genuine spastic. Fuck off back to wherever you came from, you contribute nothing with this sort of shit. Fucking useless cunt.

>>777954

That's not me. Having no idea really causes people to lash out at anyone.

Have you no impulse control, man?

On another note, what I posted isn't trying hard. It is simply the truth. You may not like it, but it is what it is.

>>777305

>Quality product over anything

It is literally impossible for any human to operate at 100%. Even less so when we're dealing with movies/book/stories, since those are far more subjective.

Thus, any single series will - far a specific subset of fans - always degrade. And the longer it goes on the larger the group becomes.

In the end, the only way to stop degradation is to stop expanding the franchise.

>>777909

It's probably a "filler" or some kind. Some developments with the characters but not quite related with the main story. Kids will be befriended, students will get a pass, Endeavor will probably try to become a better person.

Or if Hori wants to make this into some major story, then I would like this to be something about villains ruining the party, kidnapping the kindergarten kids for experimentation and human trafficking. An adventure to some hidden laboratory in some mountain in which kidnapped victims are turned into Noumu's.

>>778678

>Or if Hori wants to make this into some major story, then I would like this to be something about villains ruining the party, kidnapping the kindergarten kids for experimentation and human trafficking.

Yeah, no. Leave it at the 5 autists interacting.

>>778678

>Or if Hori wants to make this into some major story, then I would like this to be something about villains ruining the party, kidnapping the kindergarten kids for experimentation and human trafficking. An adventure to some hidden laboratory in some mountain in which kidnapped victims are turned into Noumu's.

>Wanting another giant ass villain arc directly after the Yakuza shit

Also, to claim this is going to be filler is retarded. It's almost explicitly stated that this is going to be character development for Bakugo to learn to not be a fucking jackass when dealing with people.

>>778457

>You can improve forever, you will never hit a ceeling

>You will always perform at 100%, you will never have bad days

That fantasy world you live in sure sounds like a nice place.

"Improvement in craft" refers to technique and applies to more mechanical stuff, it certainly holds little value for writing.

What makes a story engaging/good is highly subjective, tough grammar and sentence structure is less subjective.

Also, no.

>>778914

That is not an excuse to be an abusive parent and husband.

For fuck's sake, he objetively drove his wife mad.

>>778945

There's nothing objective there. Maybe she was unhinged before.

Unfortunately, I met people IRL that looked like OK people and then just suddenly snapped

>>778955

But anon, we saw the past and how Endeavor hit his child and his wife. IRL I won't say there are crazy women who got crazy for themselves, but in a work of fiction, where you can see what happened in the past, there is no doubt open for subjectivity.

>>778957

I assume that he started reflecting on his life after All Might stopped being the number one hero, and Endeavor being bumped up to one.

His entire family is pretty much an attempt at surpassing All Might.

>>778967

Could be, I just find it unsatisfying asshole characters become 'good' without any redemtion arc nor suffering a bit to win that redemption.

>>778912

If you concede that it's highly subjective as to what makes a Story good, then you'd be agreeing that criticizing stories is impossible or invalid, since everything that can be criticized would be subjective.

>>778957

>He slapped his wife once, that's what drove her to pour boiling water onto her child

Are you listening to yourself?

How the hell does that excuse her?

And the reason Todoroki is so good is precisely because of the training Endevaour game him. I won't deny he probably taken it too hard, but at least he didn't permanently disfigure his kid.

>>779103

Because I'm not stupid like you.

>>780204

Not everything. It's not a binary thing, but rather a scale.

Critique has a scale of how "accurate" or objective it is. Some things - like grammar and pacing are more objective, others like "likeable character" to "interesting" are less so. The problem does not like in critique, but treating it as an absolute (my way is the ONLY way)

>>780221

A nice attempt at sophistry, but you're still insinuating that Stories would be above criticism if you think their quality (not including grammar and pacing) is subjective. That's a load of shit, frankly, and only a retard or the insecure would need to justify their faggotry by claiming that its subjective.

>>780220

I think it's better to say that Endeavor was just a shitty husband and a shitty parent in times. It's with the everyday life within every families when there comes times that a family member behaves like a cunt and later in time regrets his/her decision.

>>780239

"Endeavour has cancer"

>>780276

And now for a very special episode of My Hero Academia.

This week's mangastream translation was even worse than usual.

>>780324

Is this one really bad?

>>780332

Guess.

>>780220

>He slapped his wife once

If you think he only hit her once you're a fucking retard. Sorry that we didn't have 3 episodes of Endeavor beating his family to clarify that for you.

>>780336

>He didn't see the OVA where Endeavor gives the class a tutorial on wifebeating

>>780347

>>780332

This week they had a lot of grammar issues , besides the way Camie talks.

It was very shitty.

>>780378

Ever since the Dogtooth drama started, they've been getting pissier and more obnoxious with their translations, to the point of being outright hostile towards readers with their stupidity.

>>780384

Yeah, I had to go back and double check the first time I read it. How fucking hard is it to put a quote in quotation marks?

>>780391

>>780384

Why did he laugh? I figured Niggastream fucked it but couldn't work it out.

>>780414

He laughed at the Todoroki illusion and how he talked/what he said.

>>780220

It doesn't excuse her, your fucking idiot. His abuse of her is what drove her mad enough to hurt Shoto. This isn't some hyper nuanced mystery tale, its a simple shounen action series with some heart. And in that context it is clear that Endeavour is evil, and Shoto's mom is broken.

She doesn't get forgiveness, she gets pity.

>>780609

It makes more sense for him to do it when Deku isn't around, if anything. Showing change when everyone is watching would be bad for him. Making it an internal thing - a one on one conversation with a kid - lets him be honest on the inside, even if he refuses on the outside, and refuses to be with Deku.

The Next Symbol of Peace can make an impact on a person without actually being there, you know.

>>780609

He already admitted he was wrong to Deku, just in an indirect manner. When they fought All Might Bakugo had to accept he was wrong about everything to work together with Deku. Being able to casually admit he was wrong is the next step.

I really liked pic related theory that one anon posted forever ago, but the more I think about it the more trouble I have believing in it.

It's interesting how Deku's journey is mirrored by hero society based on their relations to All Might. Deku wants to be like his idol but he's constantly reminded that he doesn't have the physical fortitude to do so. Likewise, society in this universe has built itself around All Might, and now that their faith in heroes is being tested (VA uprising, Stain, Endeavor as the new #1) it's dawning that things won't be the same as the AM days anymore.

We know that Deku has the following things:

>the ability to empathize and influence people

>knowledge of hero/villain history thanks to years of studying them in his notebooks

>stubborn refusal to give up on anything despite the consequences

Now, you would think after multiple greivous injuries that broadcast the fact that continuing to punch everything like All Might will eventually make him a paraplegic Deku would realize that becoming the next symbol of peace the way Toshi did wouldn't work. You would figure he would realize this and instead use his knowledge and empathy to influence his friends and nurture them into becoming the next generation, but he doesn't. He just continues learning how to manipulate OfA so it fucks up his body at a much slower rate. He's following in AM's footsteps by solving all problems by punching them and nothing else. How can I entertain any theory of Deku changing hero society when he's literally doing the same things AM did?

>>781460

>Posted the same thoughts in a thread before that one

>Didn't get autistic enough to type an essay

>Other anon gets the fame

Damn

>>781459

It depends on where the story goes, Shoot Style was the first time we really see him striking out on his own, and deliberately diverging from All Might.

Considering his hero name has a similar meaning to the English term "loser," or the slang term of "scrub," by the very nature of his hero name Hori's going to have to have Deku diverge from All Might.

It's right there in the names, "can't do anything" and "can do everything" so maybe Deku ends up inspiring people through "defying fate" or something.

I don't really know where this'll go, however, and I'm pessimistic about it playing out positively if Hori remembers it at all.

At best I'm imagining him giving a speech to a crowd, and swaying the hearts of millions in the process, something shitty like that.

You know, like the bit Coby had before Akainu shot his shit down and was ready to fucking murder him.

ie "how it'd realistcally play out, if you try to get two opposing sides to hold hands and sing kumbaya."

>>781482

All Might has tough him nothing. And shoot style is just not trying to copy him with the smashes. However Shoot Style is based on Tenya. Actually aside from simply punching everything Deku has learned isn't from All Might and is mostly copying other people. Notice that he hops in full cowl, that from gran tarino.

>>781543

Your English is shit.

>>781543

>All Might has tought him nothing.

Two of the biggest plot points are All Might being an awful teacher/mentor and Deku being an amazing learner without needing any guidance.

>>781460

Guy who wrote this here. First, before I get into your objections specifically, I'd like to say that the latest chapters on the theory of quirks getting stronger for ever generation as background lore, and how these kids are supposed to grow into their own identity of a generation lends credibility to my theory. Now

>>781459

I disagree. I think you constantly see how Deku is influencing everyone he meets(not just his generation, but even adults), and can clearly contrast that with how people think about All Might, and it has absolutely nothing to do with punching people. When All Might saves everyone, he saves the day without fail. Because people need to know they'll be okay. Because here is there. It's literally his catch phrase. He bears the burden of society to give them comfort.

When he saves Deku and Bakugo in the Origins arc, everybody says

>"Wow. He changed the fucking weather. Just what you'd expect of all might."

When he saves the kids in the Unforseen Simulation Joint Arc, everyone just thinks,

>"Holy shit thank god All Might is here to save me"

and says

>"Wow, he caused and earthquake and shot that guy through the roof, All Might you punch real gud."

Later in the manga when All Might fights AfO, everyone wants him to win, and everyone is helpless to assist him. When he retires, they make a big deal about how society is racked with uncertainty into multiple arcs.

Society sees him as a savior and the only thing keeping peace together. This was an untenable reality doomed to fall apart because it was built on one mortal man.

>>781586

2/?

Endeavor sees him as a peak to be overcome. He is a shitty person and his actions reverberate to make his son, the next generation, a shitty person until Deku fixes his attitude.

Bakugo sees him as the top of the world. The point he needs to reach. He is also a shitty person. It should be noted that Bakugo is a character who actually DOES try to be like All Might, doing everything on his own and hating others helping him with a burning passion, as his classmates like Deku and Kirishima slowly convince him otherwise and he becomes a better person.

Shigaraki thinks of All Might as what's stopping his new society from being possible. He's a shitty person.

Stain thinks All Might is so amazing that everyone else(EXCEPT Deku) is a fucking poser and needs to stop being heroes because they're disgracing the title. He is a shitty person.

Nighteye idolized All Might. Not only did exactly what Nighteye predicted(without his power) happen, that his legacy was not preserved and by pushing himself to the breaking point until he was forced into retirement he would irreparably damage the citizenry, he also made Nighteye afraid of using his powers, which has negatively effected his hero work and relationships with other people.

>>781587

With Deku it's different(but not JUST Deku, his whole generation, we'll get to that). This is perhaps something I did not explain well enough in the pic. It's not just about inspiring people, which I put too heavy an emphasis on, it's also about relying on others. That is a huge, substantial difference in now just how All Might and Deku are heroes, but also how they fight and are able to finish fights. His entire story and the first OP focus on his notebook, which comes up throughout the series. Deku knows gets to know people, Deku knows their powers, and using that and his desire to help them, he relies on them.

His entire story starts NOT by actually saving anyone at all. He didn't actually save Bakugo from the sludge. He helped All Might come to a realization so that HE could save Bakugo.

In the entrance exam Deku doesn't win by punching robots to solve his problem, to get points to pass the exam. Neither does Ochaco. No, he saves Ochaco, who in turn saves him. Because even at the expense of believing he was going to fail the exam by saving her, there was no way her wasn't going to repay her kindness and let her get hurt. She, in turn amazed, risks her own passing score and goes out of her way to save him, even though she herself was injured. SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO DOES THIS, EVEN THOUGH THE THREAT IS CLEARLY GONE. Deku doesn't just save her from being injured, he literally helps her pass the exam by moving her to act. Which All Might promptly SPECIFICALLY commends him on spurring others to act in his invitation video to UA.

He relies on Froppy and Minoru to escape from the stranded ship simulation villains. He originally plans to combine Froppy and his powers to escape(relying on her in the process), but showing Minoru that he was afraid just like him and pushing on anyways inspired him to act and trap all the villains permanently with his grapes. He would have never been able to do that acting like All Might with a smile.

Just a couple of other examples from later in the series or we'd be here all day(besides the examples I gave in that picture):

>Relies on Todoroki to help him save Iida, whom he previously inspired in the last arc, and then ALSO Iida after he inspires him(and after Todoroki who he just inspired also stands with him and inspires Iida) to help them all save each other because Stain was too strong for them.

>Relies on Kirishima to save Bakugo and doesn't punch his way out of the problem because he can't

>He tells Eri that he'll save her, but he asks her to help him and inspires this little tortured girl with no hope to help him defeat a villain there was no way in hell he could have stood up to alone. In the exact same instance he makes Ocacho consider what she could be doing better and resolves herself to become stronger

Deku is different from All Might. He has grown in to a hero who is willing to do everything to save people, but explicitly and constantly acknowledges that as a strong character attribute that it's not enough by relying on others and propping them up to help him AND themselves. The story is constantly telling you that he can't be like All Might or that he'll end up just like him(his increasingly bad medical reports after overloading OfA compared with All Might's increasingly lowered time he's able to transform until he can't). He sees the path that's leading him down, and unlike the self-destruction of All Might, he changes things because it's necessary. He develops Shoot Style rather than becoming like All Might and breaking himself.

And this is the part where we get to the entire generation being like this and why we're seeing societal change- because it's not just him.

Take Kirishima as a prime example of this. Red Riot made Kirishima want to be a manly hero. But it wasn't Red Riot that actually made him a hero, or a better hero. It was Pinky. Pinky's act of bravery inspired him and he carried that with him even into this latest arc. It was a goal he set for himself to be like Pinky, and one day he would tell her so. Then there's Bakugo. When Kirishima doubts how he can get stronger or be a cool hero(something he expresses in his very first appearance), Bakugo reassures him and points out that the way he helped them as the horse in the Festival Arc was his strong suit and he thought it was really cool. Bakugo of all people, after Kirishima develops camaraderie with him(after himself saving Bakugo who had previously NEVER let anyone save him and hated it, and insisted he be like All Might). This leads him to discovering a whole new upgrade to his powers that lets him to gain respect from major villains and pros.

His seniors in highschool aren't like that either. We find out from Tamaki that both of them are only as strong as they are because they inspire one another and know everything will be okay when they're there.

>>781587

Oops, missed something there. Deku is the ONLY person we ever see who is inspired by All Might and actually turns out to be a good person on his own. But his Quirklessness is already your queue from the beginning of the story that this kid is ONE IN A MILLION. All Might inspires people to become great, or maybe "heroes", and he definitely shows off his greatness and heroics for the sake of others. But he doesn't inspire people to become GOOD or BETTER like Deku does. And it's exactly because Deku doesn't just rely on punching his problems away. He relies on other people.

Hell, Shoot Style and Full Cowl are both literally supposed to be symbolic of Deku getting out of that All Might mentality and being his own person after idolizing him for so long.

>>781586

>>781587

>>781588

>>781589

Anyways, those are my guns and I'm sticking to 'em. That's how I rationalize it.

>>781590

>>781588

I should also note that literally every single time Deku has fought completely alone in this series, he has lost.

>Lower floors of the building with Bakugo, loses the fight but wins the training excercise

>He would have lost his fight with mind control but the spirits of OfA all literally come HELP HIM break it, which is something that All Might has NEVER seen before

>Loses to Todoroki in the tournament flat out

>Loses in his rematch with Bakugo at night on school grounds

>Couldn't get Gran Torino during their sparring matches

>Couldn't complete Nighteye's Challenge, but he lets him intern with him anyways after he inspires him with how he lost

>>781591

Oh, and he gets last place after he comes back from the intern arc with Full Cowl on the obstacle course race.

>>781592

>>781591

The school festival race is the only time this doesn't happen, but that isn't subverting the trend and only a reflection of the same issue. Even if he DOES manage to win on his own, it's completely subverted because winning on his own manifests itself as a disadvantage in and of itself in the next stage, because he has the most points. And he has to rely on the team he leads to protect him from that disadvantage of being ganged up on and targeted by the other students.

>>781591

He beats that guy who can add muscles to his muscles by himself, he completely ruins his arms but he does win that one alone so he can save the kid with water powers so he can put out the forest fire.

>>781594

I would argue the school race is the one instance of Deku relying solely on his own abilities, and it causes him to come completely in the lead.

>>781613

Really, it was Deku avoiding his quirk entirely and relying on his own wits.

>>781604

Nope. Kouta distracts him with a water blast. He comes back to save Deku after he tells him to run away from Muscular. Deku uses the 1,000,000% smash because if he didn't Kouta would die. Which wouldn't have happened if he hadn't inspired Kouta and if he didn't come back to try and save Deku.

>>781613

Sure, but as >>781615 said, he avoided punching his problem and used his wits, quite simply because he couldn't and he knew that. His single personal victory also immediately turns into a huge disadvantage in the next round, in which he had to rely entirely on teammates 99% of the round, with the exception of a single moment where he grabbed Todoroki's headband with an in control OfA activation.

>>781627

It also marks the last time he's supposed to use an overloaded OfA(which he only broke because Eri's time reversal healing fiat), because again, doing something like trying to bear the burden of an entire fight and punching things like All Might is ultimately self-destructive behavior, which he abandons with Shoot Style.

>>781627

>which he had to rely entirely on teammates 99% of the round

People are continually forgetting that Deku's analysis and planning is a huge portion of his strength, and very few people in universe seem to give any shit about planning around other people's quirk's. His plan got them through a lot of that match, but he still had to rely on other people to finish the match.

>>782036

To relieve his stress and sexual frustrations, Horikoshi publishes doujins of his own series.

>>782036

Surprised this didn't get used as spoiler bait.

>>783052

Is sparkle boy gonna commit rape?

>>783087

And also, how long has Aoyama been the Toga if that's the case. He's been sparkling around relatively recently in that licence exam arc.

Is Aoyama gonna be the traitor outright or just Toga? I kind of liked the Denki traitor theory and was hoping that'd follow through. Maybe he still is and he's teamed up with Toga to replace Aoyama.

>>783087

Probably the same way she got deku's blood. If he is the traitor, that makes me a bit disappointed, as I wanted fried brains to be the traitor. Though it makes sense, as he doesn't really have any form of connection to the other characters.

>>783118

Bird vs Sparkle in a balls out brawl. My body is ready.

>>783175

It would be a nice story of Aoyama being a quirkless who got in UA with that special belt. I think I've never seen it using that "power" without that belt. The dumb part is of course of how did he passed without having any check-ups whether he actually possesses a quirk. Later part is about him of why did he want to get in. And there comes of his belief in "equality" which he had.

He might be trying to prove that no matter the the status of a person (quirk or no quirk), he/she can achieve same amount of success (becoming a hero) aka the Batman trope. So he went into UA to prove that. And then Deku came into the picture. The reason of why Aoyama is interested in him (in which this chapter seems to show) could be about him discovering about Deku's true identity (a quirkless got a quirk). That of course would infuriates Aoyama's belief in "equality".

>A quirkless needed a borrowed quirk to become a hero? Ridiculous!

Now there comes the situation of what he decides to do with Deku.

>>783087

It's most definitely Toga. Aoyama's never been a creepy gay dude before, just flamboyant as fuck. Force feeding Deku cheese is really weird for him.

>>783293

I don't get it

>>783293

14/88?

>>783293

9/11 ?

>>783293

Midoriya is part of the All Might youth?

>>783354

You can't stop what you've started.

>Midoriya "Watch out Jew, I'm coming for you" Izuku

>Midoriya "Windmill of Peace" Izuku

>"100% Smash the Jew" Deku

>Midoriya "Auschwitz Style" Izuku

>Midoriya "14% cowl is all I need, but I'll go up to 88%" Izuku

>Midoriya "My greatest hero has blue eyes and blonde hair" Izuku

>>774038

For the record, Viz has everything through chapter 20 or so done and you can read it free. The way their comic reader is set up is bothersome, but it's a good fix while the scanlators get their shit together.

>>783701

Where are you getting these scans from?

>>783734

>Not having a Niggastream lifetime sub

>>783937

Shhh. Don't spoil our fun.

>>783959

Well, o-ok

>>774018

I think he's just a distressed new fag who probably thought Boku no Hero would remain some obscure series that would only be enjoyed by typical weeb recluses, which is pretty retarded because, as you said, it's a fucking shonen, and that shit usually always ends up as a cheap whore for merchandise.

>>784542

>What is character development for 200

>>784542

Endeavor really triggers normalfags. I bet he is gonna get amazing development and get fully redeemed but normalfags would still go m-muh abuse.

>>784558

>>784560

They can go for a redemption arc if they want and I certainly wouldn't be against it, but trying to do so without dealing with the big, marital rapey elephant in the room just comes off as awkward

>>784563

>rapey

Since when?

>>784560

I think it triggered their inner "white knight" instincts since Endeavor hit his wife. So my guess they will be only satisfied if he apologizes to his wife.

>>784730

Shut up kike.

>>784542

I'm ready for the redemption arc.

>>784730

>Midoriya "1488%" Izuku

>Midoriya "Noose Style" Izuku

>Midoriya "All-Might is White" Izuku

>Midoriya "Full Klan" Izuku

>>784677

Dunno why Endeavour can't be allowed to get his shit together and stop being a cunt. He's a pretty realistic (barring super human traits) depiction of the parent that lives through their kid and tries to plot out their life for them. There's often conflict between parents when attitudes like that arise and if it's not able to resolve itself healthily then it can lead into abuse.

Although, from memory, I don't recall Endeavour actually hurting his wife. Just his general attitude fucked her up and she lashed out at Todoroki.

>>784772

>Midoriya "Washington Stomp" Izuku

>>784772

>Midoriya "One for all spike on the All for one kike" Izuku

>>784888

>Why won't Deku become a real shonen character? Believe it!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>784563

The reason this redemption arc is starting off so fucking awfully is because his "redemption" is acting like his problem he was a distant workaholic father that wasn't there for his son, not a man realizing what a horrible sack of shit he's been. A much better character arc for Endeavor would be him going nuts because his attempts at besting All Might went so fucking poorly, ending with him going evil and Todoroki trashing him in a fight.

>>784568

There's a lot of subtext indicating Endeavor might have just bullied a family into letting him marry their daughter when she never wanted to. It's certainly not confirmed in canon, but it wouldn't be very surprising at all if it was revealed Endeavor is basically just a rapist.

>>784774

>I don't recall Endeavour actually hurting his wife.

He beats the shit out of Todoroki as a kid, and they slaps the shit out of his mom when she tries to step in.

>>785023

What chapter was this?

>>784960

Where was it stated he raped his wife? I thought it was just an arranged marriage what the fuck did I miss.

>>785071

>Where was it stated he raped his wife?

It's not, that what I was saying. It's not stated, but considering what an awful piece of shit Endeavor was shown to be, it wouldn't be surprising in the slightest.

>What chapter was this?

Not sure, but it was during Todoroki's backstory bit in the school festival.

>>785078

Speaking of Todoroki's family, I want to see more of his qt sisters.

>>785023

He trains Todoroki. Hard. In the "learn how to take a gut-punch son, you'll need it if you want to be a true hero".

mom steps in and goes "he's just a kid" and Endevor slaps her.

That's ALL we've seen.

>>785160

>>785161

The abuse Shoto's Mother received was so bad that it caused her to go insane, lose her shit, and upon seeing her own son, react violently believing he was her husband. The burn comes from Shoto get hit in the face by boiling hot water from his emotionally and mentally unstable Mother, not from Endeavor. Shoto clearly remembers when his Mom was sane and loving and had to see her end up permanently hospitalized because the abuse was that bad.

And it was a forced marriage arranged by Endeavor in the first place, and he only wanted her so he could have a kid with a strong quirk. So he's a psychotic, power hungry abuser who beat his wife that he married for selfish reasons, and his son who was only a toddler, so much that one of them went insane and the other disowned him.

Making Endeavor seem sympathetic after all of that is hard as fuck to do. Maybe if it was revealed that he knew that AFO was coming back and that villains were amassing power and that the world needed really strong heroes, we could sympathize with Endeavor being a shitty Dad and pushing his son too hard... But even then, he's still a violent wife beater, has a really petty rivalry with All Might just because he wanted to be more famous and popular, and it turns out he was doing all of this shit just for his own gain, not out of any greater desire to do good.

>>785161

People raised by single mothers.

>>785216

To add:

Everything bad of Endeavor we have seen is from the past. Everything in the actual current events in the manga shows Endeavor treating Shoto great. He encourages him, he trusted him when he ran off to save Deku, he is more than happy to show him the ropes with hero work. And now we get that he will be trying to have a better image for his sake and those around him and most importantly - he said he was proud of him. You must not have a father if you don't know how much it means to a child to hear from the father figure that he is proud of them

>>785218

Or maybe the overwhelming guilt for fucking burnscaring her child's face?

>>785226

The reason she even did that in the first place was because of Endeavor.

From what I've seen, abusers don't really realize what they're doing is wrong, to the level Endeavor is displaying, that quickly.

It's possible, but I'd need to see how it plays out more, to make more of a verdict.

At the very least, Todoroki's reaciton is unrealistic, in my opinion. Leaving with a smile, instead of pensiveness. He's not seething with hatred at Endeavor, anymore, but I don't think he's ever once even shown the slightest indication of forgiving him.

>>785230

It can always be retconned and cleared up later on, but of all the things to play the

>well, we don't really know!

>what if we're only getting an inaccurate version of the story?

card, this ain't it. We don't really know what the deal with OFA and AFO is. We have incomplete and possibly inaccurate information. We can speculate there.. However, this trauma, Shoto's abuse, Endeavor's wife beating, these are central plot elements. His entire character, he personality, his drama, his complex about his fire quirk, are all wholly dependent on the fact that Endeavor was an abusive dickbag and his Mom went crazy and accidentally disfigured him because of it.

>>785216

Lets not forget that Endeavor had 3 kids before he got the "perfect" son.

His wife probably snapped because she was used as a tool to create the "perfect hero to rival All Might".

>>785234

Yeah. Something about this path to "redemption" doesn't sit well with me.

It'd sit better if we had Shoto being an equally flawed person, he is Endeavor's son after all, and refusing to forgive him.

Now that would be interesting, having Endeavor genuinely realize the error of his ways, but still presenting it in a flawed manner where like, he tries to blame Todoroki for part of it too, and in doing so basically destroying a huge part of the foundation to Todoroki's identity. Because of Todoroki being unable to let go and move on, and the fact that he's not entirely wrong for clinging to it.

But no, where I see this going is that Todoroki eventually forgives him, and moves on.

This isn't like Bakugou, who's faults stem from arrogance, and the worst his parents do is give him chiding dope slaps, and potentially neglect him a bit.

The only word to describe what Endeavor did is "torment."

However, Hori could also make this incredible, and have someone smear Endeavor, by revealing what he did to his family, right as Endeavor's attempting to reconcile with said family.

There'd be a ton of potential there, like, the conflict with Todoroki having to choose between defending Endeavor, or joining in on the mob. Endeavor struggling with being damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, in regards to acknowledging it. The fact that the number 1 hero is now basically as far removed from All Might, as you could possibly be.

Tons of potential.

Which is why I still think we need to wait and see where this goes. Though I'm not hopeful.

>>785239

>However, Hori could also make this incredible, and have someone smear Endeavor, by revealing what he did to his family, right as Endeavor's attempting to reconcile with said family.

If I recall correctly, the hero association had to go out of their way to cover up the scandal. He almost lost everything.

>>785216

>She is hospitalized as a sort of retirement home

I've heard of repressed memories, but I've never heard of someone repressing memories of a fictional character before.

>>785230

Endeavor hasn't even shown any guilt toward the terrible shit he did to his family, he only seems to feel guilty that his son doesn't love him, which only makes him come off as an even more unlikable sociopath that can't understand how bad the shit he's done is.

>>785252

Doesn't matter if he beat her with a pillowcase full of batteries or just verbally abused her. The woman was so terrified of him that she went insane and seeing the left side of Todoroki reflexively caused her to lash out and try to harm him, thinking he was Endeavor. If you're seriously trying to imply that she just went crazy for other reasons, but Hori is playing tricks on us to make us believe it was because of Endeavor, you're a fucking idiot.

>>785275

A correction, she knew that it was Todoroki. She hated that he looked like Endeavour.

>>785229

But what specifically did he do to her that made her burn Shoto? If we could clear this out, we could judge his character a lot more clearly. As it stands, it's possible his wife might not have been very stable to start with.

>>785280

Do you even follow the series? Because it doesn't matter what you consider as abusive or threatening, or whether or not Endeavor was justified or simply just acting the way he acts. The central plot point and major character element of Todoroki is that his Dad is a huge prick who drove his Mom insane, causing her to burn his face and then get checked into a mental hospital. Fuck your stupid subjective interpretation, that's the black and white ink on the page: Todoroki hates his Dad for being shitty and driving his Mom insane.

>>785281

There's no indication of that. All we know was that she was a loving and protective Mother to Shoto at first, but over the years dealing with Endeavor wore her down until she snapped. There hasn't even been the slightest hint that she's an unreliable party in the who situation. Why the fuck are we even debating this?

>>785281

>But what specifically did he do to her that made her burn Shoto?

By your logic, Johan in Monster is a perfectely normal guy because we never see him actually do anything. It's clearly not HIS fault every person or thing he encounters ends up dead of completely fucking traumatized.

>>785283

Holy shit, right back at you faggot. Have you missed the part how Todoroki has been opening up to him? Did the first internship mean absolutely fucking nothing?

>>785285

And that somehow means he wasn't a shitty husband and Father? Endeavor has to redeem himself to his son specifically because he fucked up so hard, you dense fuckwit.

>>785285

> Have you missed the part how Todoroki has been opening up to him?

You mean where Todoroki blatantly states, "Don't think this means I care about you, I'm just using you as a tool"? How can any human being be this fucking retarded? This isn't just being an idiot, this is being fucking DELUSIONAL

>>785290

Then what the fuck are you even trying to say? Because this?

>But he didn't actually directly abuse her, even verbally. It was just his over-all attitude. And nobody is dismissing that. Are you dense or something?

Sounds like you're saying he's just a prick, but he didn't beat or abuse his wife and child.. Which he did and that makes you objectively wrong and when you post this

>Holy shit, right back at you faggot. Have you missed the part how Todoroki has been opening up to him? Did the first internship mean absolutely fucking nothing?

It sounds like you're trying to say that Todoroki doesn't hate him as much?

Either admit you're wrong or go be a retard somewhere else.

>>785290

>NOBODY IS FUCKING SAYING HE DIDNT DO SHITTY THINGS

<He never beat his wife you fucking nigger.

<Everything in the actual current events in the manga shows Endeavor treating Shoto great.

<all these fags still pretending we know he beat his wife

<But he didn't actually directly abuse her, even verbally.

>>785296

>>785290

You idiots do know that we were still using unix timestamps when it was at 143x, yes? And that someone made a user JS to change it back to them as soon as it switched to this cancerous string of nonsense? And that now the option to use unix timestamps is back, albeit three digits shorter? I use that and throw three random digits in the end so my image folder doesn't become a mess, get fucked.

>>785290

Nigga calm down

>>785290

Damn, both mad and wrong.

>>785283

>There hasn't even been the slightest hint that she's an unreliable party in the whole situation.

Burning her son in the face for looking like his father seems like a slight hint, even if she was abused beforehand. Most abused women don't go that crazy, not much more than well-treated women do.

>>785284

No, Johan admitted to committing murder in the second or third episode, IIRC. For Endeavor to be like Johan, he would have to say to Shoto that he beat and terrorised his wife because he enjoyed it.

Anyway, that's beside the point. What we know is that Endeavor is a slightly violent man - yes, slightly. A bit of slapping isn't that horrific as to provoke the kind of psychotic breakdown his wife suffered, on its own.

And if he did worse, I would have expected Shoto to have flashed-back to such occasions by now, but we haven't.

>>785313

> I would have expected Shoto to have flashed-back to such occasions by now, but we haven't.

He did. That was the flahback that was fucing show. We don't need 20 chapters of Endeavor beating his family. The story tells you enough to establish A) He's an abusive fuckand B) It was bad enough it drove his wife insane because she hated him that much. You literally supposed to take what's shown at face value, it's not a fucking murder mystery.

>>785317

>You literally supposed to take what's shown at face value

Then it's flawed.

People don't hurt their children that badly simply because their significant others slap them.

>>785319

>People don't hurt their children that badly simply because their significant others slap them.

So the obvious answer that Endeavor was even worse than shown is being willfully ignored because?...

>>785323

Because it wasn't shown.

>>785317

>We don't need 20 chapters of Endeavor beating his family.

Beating his wife* and Shoto. The rest of the family didn't factor into the operation because they weren't being trained for greatness.

Really though, I think it was Endeavour's harsh nature and unloving attitude to her and the kids that broke his wife. Not a year's supply of super powered beatings. She was psychologically broken and couldn't hack it anymore. It's why she lashed out at the 'Endeavour' half of Shoto, she hated the sight of Endeavour and wanted to get rid of it.

>>785329

Because psychotic breakdowns happen all the time from dealing with stubborn and abrasive personalities.

>>785357

Never seen a teacher break down, huh?

>>785370

I made a teacher cry, but being an obnoxious grade schooler doesn't cause people to go into permanent psychotic states. Endeavor didn't just rile up his wife, he broke her mentally to the point that she couldn't even love her child anymore. That's what we've been getting at for the past several hours.

Play death of the author all the you want. Pretend we don't know because it wasn't explicitly stated (only heavily implied and then backed with numerous examples to clarify throughout the story). But the final result is the same. Hori wanted the audience to know that Endeavor was such a shitty husband and Father that he mindbroke his wife and drove his son to hate him for close to a decade before he was ever able to partially redeem himself in Shoto's eyes.

For fuck's sake, the guy forced her to bare numerous children, not out of love for her or to start a family, but because he was trying to create a 'masterpiece' child with a combination of their quirks.

>>785374

>>785389

>>785371

I was just cracking a joke lads.

>>785410

and that's not his only one

>>785493

>you are no better than a cuckchan spammer if you call him out

>I hate SJW but I think anti-SJW are just as bad.png

Aoyama. Why the fuck did you do things like this? The guy has such a strange approach.

Interested to see if this goes anywhere. Not sure what to take away from it.

Aoyama has such a good quirk, yet it gives him the shits. Maybe he and Deku will overcome these limits in the coming chapters.

>>785847

My guess is that Hori was aware of people trying to find out who the traitor is, and some were pointing at Aoyama.

So he created about 2 chapters to clear this out.

>>785858

Not a bad guess. He's already on record as stating he's not sure what to do with Aoyama but enjoys drawing him.

>>785858

I feel like he could have done something more interesting with this idea, instead of what seems like a giant set-up for a toilet/shitting joke. I'm glad Aoyama is not the traitor but with this I am reminded how limited Hori is as a writer once again. This was never supposed to be high art and at most barely decent but holy shit, this shit feels like it is getting worse and worse in one respect or another. It's rather baffling. Even the stuff about super groups being formed is something that seems like it should be important, if it wasn't outright told to us during the Sports festival arc and mentioned here and there afterwards. I should probably just drop this thing. It feels aimless as fuck.

>>785886

It is a bit weird. It felt like something you'd find in the gag spin-off he does.

>goes from 8% to 20%

>not an improvement

This guy is lucky Kirito exists otherwise he'd be the worst fucking MC in history

>>786353

>implying he is looking at deku

He is looking at the camera you fucking jackass.

>>786362

Wow, that's something you don't see every day. Someone waiting in this thread to reply to another while acting like a total cunt.

>>786480

Jesus.

>>786480

Get this trash back to tumblr where it belongs.