/a/ - Animu & Mango

Mecha died with the current generations lack of interaction with large scale manufacturing equipment and vehicles.

>>769828

But mecha speaks to a mans soul.

Mecha aren't cute like androids or humans are.

>>769974

>being at this level of smugness

Who are you ?

Atom the beginning I feel was wasted potential. I guess they wanted to flesh it out into various sequels and whatnot.

>>770893

Anon, the mech genre is dead because there are less & less children in Japan, and the primary goal of the mech genre is to sell cheap plastic toys to as many children as possible.

The majority of mecha shows started using 3D for their robots, from Macross to Aquarion to even Gundam: The Origin. In every case it looks awful. I'm not surprised that the mecha genre died.

>Cross Ange was 3 years ago

Where are my mecha train wreck animes at? Did I miss one?

>>775605

If the average mecha anime was like GuP, I think I'd enjoy the genre a lot more.

>>775663

Preaching to the fucking choir here mate. I'm so fucking sick of that shit and it's basically killed any enjoyment I had of the genre. I just want fucking giant chunks of steel fighting each other. I'm so fucking sick of having to put up with all this other crap just to see it.

>>775660

I'd be happy if they just dropped the obsession with humanoid mech designs. They don't make any sense, scientifically or militarily, and hence require a level of suspension of disbelief that I just can't muster for a supposedly sci-fi show.

Magical girl shows get a pass because at least the characters in those are cute and attractive. Most mecha has boring characters and implausible plots.

The giant humanoid robot trope has been abused by so many shows, both western and eastern, that I just can't take it seriously any more.

>>769820

>Arcee

Does anyone find it weird that in Japan Transformers is a literal toddler show while in the West certain renditions are treated as a young adult type of show. Its one of the few cases where Japan actually censors it for their air waves. Like making the female transformers boy crazy or turning random cast members into a spoof of gay people

>>775671

>I'd be happy if they just dropped the obsession with humanoid mech designs.

> They don't make any sense, scientifically or militarily, and hence require a level of suspension of disbelief that I just can't muster for a supposedly sci-fi show.

But that's the conceit of the genre, you have to take the idiosyncrasy for granted. If you don't like giant robots you don't like mecha. It's like saying you don't like fantasy because it never features a realistic depiction of medieval European feudal social attitudes or the actual place creatures like orcs and elves would have in those kinds of societies. Sci-Fi and Fantasy are about accepting the impossible elements in their stories to communicate the themes and messages that the authors intend for the audience. Science fiction isn't fiction that features science, it's about science that's fictional.

>>775745

Tell that to >>775605

>>770893

>In the past two decades, we have too much weak boys as mecha pilots thank you, evangelion, thank you, gundam to serve as self-inserts for potential kids watching the shows

So this is why mecha fans hate EVA so much ?

>>775788

Mecha fans hate EVA so much because it ruined the genre, just like Madoka ruined magical girls. Everything that came afterwards tried to copy it in some way and the genre can't get the god damn fuck over it.

>>775745

>Science fiction isn't fiction that features science, it's about science that's fictional.

I aggree with this. But an issue is that many people don't see it this way.

They see Sci-Fi as realistic science and base their opinion of certain science topics on complete fiction.

A.I. and some biology fields suffer strongly from this.

>>775745

Good sci-fi, just like good fantasy, has a sufficient combination of realism, engaging story, and good characters to make you overlook the unrealistic bits or even make you enjoy them. I watch enough fantasy and magical girl stuff to know that I can willingly suspend my disbelief for a good story. The problem comes when the the plot and characters themselves fail to be engaging or enjoyable. This seems to happen a lot more often with material marketed at the teenage male audience, such as mecha, because writers feel that cool robots and explosions are enough to satisfy them.

Of course it's also possible to have a completely realistic story which is boring. In fact, a certain level of unrealism is necessary because the real world is shit.

>>775799

Who the fuck actually calls evangelion a mecha show after watching it?

Mecha shows ruined mecha, stop blaming eva for all that gay gundam shit.

>>770893

>gundam has too many weakbois

that’s only seed u fag

>>770893

>weak boys as mecha pilots

>thank you Gundam

Even the Wing teenagers had attitude. Don't blame it just because other shows tried to do something "similar" and failed, that's common in all of fiction

>>782527

>>782502

MOOOOOOOO

>>769820

The "Mecha Anime But X" formula got stale. With every permutation between cartoony antics to realistic warfare and psychological melodrama covered, there's not much more you can do with stories fixated on that particular subject.

>>775745

Sci-fi is supposed to be science with some unexplained or new "element" to make all the impossible science possible. Like having a warp drive or something, the concept is feasible but we assume that some as of yet undiscovered thing enable it to work in that universe. For example the replicants in blade runner. Obviously we can't make them right now, but the concept is feasible and makes sense. Likewise in mecha as long as the designs aren't wacky enough to break your suspension of disbelief, then it works.

>>775924

It's mecha in the most basic definition possible. It has giant things that fight, one being piloted by a person, that's about all it has that qualifies as mecha.

I want more military and war focused mecha anime. Ones that go into strategy and logistics of war besides the usual character focus. I want to see more stuff like votoms, but with a focus on the actual fighting and combined arms with mecha being more like bipedal IFVs that still rely on infantry, air support, and artillery to get things done.

Also, I want to see someone like Erwin Rommel in charge of a mecha division.

>>786336

>It's mecha in the most basic definition possible. It has giant things that fight, one being piloted by a person, that's about all it has that qualifies as mecha.

So Shingeki no Kyojin is mecha, good to know.

>>786342

But what are the chances of that ever happening?

Face it; if you want something done right, or sometimes done at all, you're gonna have to do it yourself.

>>775829

>They see Sci-Fi as realistic science and base their opinion of certain science topics on complete fiction.

>A.I. and some biology fields suffer strongly from this.

This is particularly true for AI where futurism and new age scifi tropes dominate the discussion despite the existential problems behind it remaining unanswered thus far. It's still not even certain that its even theoretically possible to create true AI from all the unanswered, potentially even unanswerable, questions raised by Godelian mathematics.

Where's my VIRTUAL-ON anime?

>>786637

>persons pilot persons

Anon are you mentally sane

>>786327

>This.

>Minovsky Particles are fake, but Sci-Fi is supposed to make you imagine a world where it's a reality.

Interestingly enough, much of our current Physics is just like that. For instance, for some time it was theorised that Dark Matter and Dark Energy were an absolute certainty for the Universal Dynamics, scientists were so sure they would find them that it was as good as ready to put that in documentaries, sci-fi, and teach it in schools.

But then, last year came and they discovered that, wait, Dark Matter doesn't exist! And it was preached as settled science!

Science today is very close to sci-fi.

>>791153

>they discovered that, wait, Dark Matter doesn't exist!

What the hell are you talking about?

>>791156

Go look it up, fresh info.

>>791166

You are supposed to give us a bunch of links.

>>791109

An Eva is a biological demigod.

The Orphans in Brain Powerd were biological which were born, not built, as well.

>>791168

https://youtu.be/GuwkbGAnkE0

A short video, with a cringe poem, with some info.

Polite sage.

>>791176

Well, fuck, I fear the people at Project Thunderbolts will be the forgotten heroes of this age.

>>791173

>Electric Universe

You are one of those retards?

I once watched a video series about the EU (because another one of your kind wanted to recruit me), and for a theory that's supposed to fix problems with the common theory, it brings up WAY too many problems in way too short a time. The only reason to support it at all seems to be a deep suspicion of Einstein's work combined with scientific illiteracy.

>>791203

Actually, if you saw something like a "video series", then you just watched a conspiratard spilling nonsense.

There are only two youtube channels about that, one is Suspicious0bservers and the other is Thunderbolts Project.

Don't watch anything if it isn't from these two.

FAAAAADE IN!

>>782531

This is why dubs are only good for memes.

>>796022

I want to fuck that bike.