No.767394
I watched Re:zero it and thought it was pretty okay. But then I look up the general reaction to it and I get the impression that this had to have been the most divisive show of that season where two camps either absolutely love it or hate. Some of the common complaints were stuff like:
>Why didn't subaru do everything perfectly? What a moron I however would have done things like casually commit suicide 10 000 times while training with swords so I would eventually be a swordmaster and just kill everything
>I got too much second hand embarrassment from Subaru's antics since it reminded me of how much of a faggot I was in high school
>It's just Fantasy Steins Gate
Did you guys watch it? and if so what did you think of it?
No.767401
Hey, at least it wasn't Re:Creators. I thought it was pretty okay, too. I guess when you think a divisive show wasn't that bad but wasn't that great either it's harder to elaborate.
No.767402
No.767404
>>767402
Too bad she only goes for drag-queen weirdos.
No.767416
I know that they made Subaru a really shitty character on purpose so that they could eventually drop the character developement bomb after making him face ultimate despair, but he was just too obnoxious and unlikeable in the end for me to actually like this anime.
It wasn't bad, but at many points it was very painful to watch
No.767437
>>767394
I was able to get past Subaru's spaghetti by thinking hey this might be a more likely scenario if the random beta cuck mc got teleported to a world where he isn't OP or swimming in bitches. (getting to the last one some though I assume)
I enjoyed the hype of the last few episodes and can say that I found the series to be worth the slog at the end. Would watch a season 2.
>>767416
It was painful especially with the throne room screen with him protection M'lady and it was the closest I came to dropping it.
No.767450
>>767394
It was ok, and I don't think it was divisive exactly, I think that it just got too popular mainstream, which led to people who never watch any anime, and as such had no reference point, rating it as a far better than it actually was. This led to a kneejerk reaction in the other direction, an outlash more at obnoxious uninformed 'fans' than at the show itself. The production values were decent, the plot was good-to-mediocre, the characters weren't too bland and there were some interesting bits, overall it was a solid 6/10 or a weak 7/10 give or take.
As for personal opinions I was disappointed about the plot direction shifting towards Toyota becoming friends with his everyone and going out on dates to save himself after the reveal about Rem being his murderer. I was hoping (in vain obviously since expecting something like this out of an anime is ridiculous) that he would actually be forced to run and that it would be more a story of the horrors in a medieval/fantasy world for an outsider, with the resurrection mechanic working towards facilitating that, but I guess the fact he was put under any psychological duress at all was something.
No.767455
It was a combination of things that made the show a fucking horrible experience to sit through.
It starts off really promising with its double-length episode, first looking like it's going to be a lighthearted adventure like a shittier version of Konosuba before hitting you with the sudden gore and violence, and that's where you go "Oh, maybe there is something to this, I'll keep watching." and from there it just starts circling the drain and becoming more and more of a fucking shitshow.
With the return by death gimmick established you get the idea of what's going to happen but they spend way too fucking long dealing with every situation, be it either the first encounter with the gutting fetish lady or the attack on Roswaaaaaaal's mansion or any other problem Mitsubishi has to solve with his dying takes way too fucking long to be solved and the show lingers in one location dealing with the same characters for way longer than they can carry that time.
Another major issue was how fucking bad all the main characters were. It seems like the more important the character was to the plot the worse they were written. All the minor side-characters were pretty entertaining but Hyundai constantly flip-flops between being an incompetent whiny idiot and a super-determined badass, whose only motivation for doing anything is a retarded sense of "love" for a character with less personality than a glass of tapwater and another inexplicably strong attachment for a character who feels like she was written like the author followed a waifubait for dummies book, and these are the most relevant characters to the fucking story.
The actual plot itself is a fucking mess, introducing characters, plotlines and locations that feel like they add nothing to the overall story but the author just felt like they'd be a cool idea; the giant flying whale comes to mind. I could go on a massive spergout about how that whole arc was so embarrassingly retarded but I'll refrain. By the end, through a series of coincidences and things that just happen for no fucking reason, we get to a point where our main main Datsun is heavily involved with a nonsensical struggle for succession and is taking part in important political affairs while still wearing the fucking tracksuit he's been wearing since he showed up like a couple of weeks before. Beetlejuice was the last shining ember in the pile of shit that the show had become and even he became uninteresting by the end of his arc. By the end even the animators gave up and the show started looking like garbage.
The show is a goddamn mess and I have no reason to believe the LN is any better because it was clearly made as one of those heartless advertisements that follow the LN word-for-word. My theory is that the author is a complete hack who wanted to get in on the isekai craze by just putting out a generic piece of shit that would appeal to chuunis and dumbass teenagers so he could make a quick buck, and surprisingly it worked. The fact that I still see really-well drawn Ram fanart fills me with dread when I realize those talented artists are spending their effort to depict a character so atrociously dull and appealing only to people with no taste, but then again they themselves are probably just like the author of Re:Zero where they're just playing to the crowd.
No.767456
>>767455
When you get into the thousand-character range it's good to whip out the double spacing.
But I agree that it was just way too annoying to watch, not only because of the dumb faggot, but rather the plot itself. Steins;Gate worked because for one, it took the time to establish itself before jumping into the drama, and for two it had a good pace all throughout the drama (not to mention having good characters). R:Z was a shitty wannabe that first hooked the ADHD kids by dropping the suffering right away,
>oh look it's gore
>also psychological stuff
>it's just like all those other cool deep anime
and then it just dragged its fucking feet with Mitsubishi repeating the same fucking shit several times only to result in some completely disappointing and uninteresting developments. I dropped it about halfway.
No.767459
>1-14 episodes
Whatever, cant even recall anything from them
>15 episode
Awesome.
>Fucking moby dick
Good.
Generally everything is shit, but some parts are quite good. Plot is shit, characters are shit like one of previous posters said, "generic anime characters for dummies". But if you cut all the crap from it you can have more than a hour of good shit. Betelgeuse parts were good.
>>767455
>My theory is that the author is a complete hack
Good work, detective, you solved the case of shit genre.
But what you expect? Its not like you can go into university and learn how to write. These places are the cesspool of degeneracy.
If you think about it, its where are we heading. There is no way people who write for low expectation assholes get better. And soon all the good authors will fucking die. And people who go to learn how to write will be fucked by university of degradation. The only people who will be left with the shred of talent is creepy loners.
No.767463
I remember it was a lot of fun watching it with /a/ when it aired. By no means was it a stellar show but I enjoyed watching all the suffering unfold.
As anon mentioned, there was a lot of shit that felt like it was thrown in there just for the sake of complexity, that was never developed or expanded on, which I didn't like. Like the murderous bitch from episode one or any of the side characters that were vying for the throne, or the politics of the show in general. And actually, I think that it is because they tried to add so many characters and angles that they ended up not having the resources to properly flesh out the main ones.
Barusu gets shit on real hard but I actually thought he was a pretty original and well-done character. It's rather unique to see the classic betamax MC actually be conscious of his many, many fucks ups. Even more unique to punish him in new and heinous ways each time. It's a small wonder that he managed to keep his sanity and pull through until the end.
What I'm trying to say is that basically Emilia was a good girl, despite her misguided political aspirations, and that I think I would like to Re: watch this show one day.
No.767468
Toyota Honda is a sperglord, thats for sure, but its hard not to empathise with him at times. His situation is pretty whack.
The show itself is ok, the books are better, and ive been slowly reading through them since the show came out.
No.767479
>>767455
>a character with less personality than a glass of tapwater
That's pretty insulting. Tap water has character variations even in a single locality, depending on the source of the well.
No.767485
>>767479
Well he did say 'less' personality. Maybe it was meant to be a compliment but he's just not very good at expressing himself?
No.767489
Threads like this make me glad I never watched this shit show. Although >>767404 RamxTrap sounds like a pairing worth looking into. How many seconds is spent on this topic?
>>767479
Would it be more accurate to say a glass of distilled water?
No.767509
I thought it was pretty good, not anime of it's season but pretty good. Nothing to be a fanboy or a contrarian over. Whatever.
No.767511
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>>767394
>I watched Re:zero it and thought it was pretty okay.
That's funny. I finished it a few days ago, after I dropped it for some time. I thought it was okay too. Good thing I'm drunk or I'd probably not write all this but I feel sorry for anyone readin it.
It starts out interesting but at the same time it can't really decide what it wants to be.
The two gimics that it had, "isekai doesn't turn out the way you want to" and "restart from checkpoint", were done much better in Konosuba and All You Need Is Kill respectively.
After an interesting start, it slows down more and more. The episodes where Subaru lives in the mansion and where they fight against those dogs where just boring. They felt like standard Isekai-material and made me drop the series before. It's only when they get back to the capital and things turn to shit for him that it gets more interesting. I really liked the parts when people told him that he only acted the way he did because he tried to score affection points on the half elf route and that his selflessness was only a lie he told to himself. That, his failures and the battles during that later half were some of the best parts. The end was kinda meh and even though I might watch an other season, it really didn't make me want to read the LNs immediately. I assume that means Kadokawa would deem it a failure.
Subaru is an unlikeable cunt and it is fun to watch when his hubris makes him fail, he even sometimes learns from his mistakes. At the same time, some situations go far too swimmingly for him. What's the point in even making him a Hikkineet if he is very socially and physically capable after all? I don't really believe that some random /a/non could beat up a hobbit, a knife fighter and a pro-werstler in a 3-on-1 streetfight. At least he got his ass kicked in the duel with Bluepaladin, I was fully expecting him to win it.
I don't really much care for Ram, Rem and Halfelf. They all had their moments, mostly when they were dying, dead or killing somebody but all their drama felt just too forced. I liked the design of their master but that chucklefuck sure is incompetent at protecting his own realm. "Wizards, no sense of right or wrong" I guess.
Ojou-sama, Russianmerchant, and halfelf had their best moments when they told told Subaru how much of a selfish, self-loathing prick he is and that begging won't get you far if you have nothing to offer. Streetrat and her Ogredaddy stopped being important after the first episode, even if she is one of the possible chosen ones. I'm glad the girls didn't all fall for Subaru.
The Chosen Undead, Redpaladin and Bluepaladin all felt pretty competent and reliable and only made Subaru look like more of a snarky, jealous bitch.
Ferris was pretty cute. He didn't do much besides being cute but at least he was good at that. Just the right level of trap too. Very cute and girlish but not "draw a girl"-levels of feminine. The only reason why I picked it up again was because I didn't get to see him yet. I really liked Crush. See seemed strongwilled and commanding, without seeming cocky. If I had to choose between the candidates then I'd prefer to live in a nation ruled by her. But we all know Halfelf is going to win in the end.I hope Ferris and Crush at least end up together. Her Butler was just the old Veteran and gentleman warrior archetype but at least he was done well.
Bishop of Sloth was both creepy and funny, a real joy to watch in my opinion. However, his end felt kinda anticlimactic.
>The final verdict
To me, it's about 7.5/10. Many parts were avarage or even bad but I really enjoyed some episodes. I might rate it lower, had it inspired me to some actions in real live. And they ended successful even!
The music was pretty good too. I didn't care much for the OP or ED but I liked the actual music in the series, "Call of the Witch" and "Sloth" are amazing tracks.
No.767515
>>767511
Also, I haven't watched that Smartphone Isekai series but just from reading the threads I assume that Subaru's cellphone had a bigger role in the story than that serie's smartphone had.
No.767520
>>767515
Nah. It started off slow, but Touya's smartphone is essential. It allows him to
>phone god
>find almost anything on the planet by asking not-google
>look up sweets recipes for his harem
>gps multipoint target his invincible slip spell
That's not the half of it, though. It's enjoyable precisely because it doesn't try to mitigate the absurdity of the overpowered isekai MC, instead it dials it to 11 then twists the knob off.
No.767532
>>767511
>What's the point in even making him a Hikkineet if he is very socially and physically capable after all? I don't really believe that some random /a/non could beat up a hobbit
He most likely isn't that outgoing in real life. The thing about Subaru being an embarrassing dickshit to begin with is because he instantly behaved like he would in his video games where he is the main character, which is why he constantly blurted out whatever he felt like saying thinking everything would just go exactly how he wanted it to. Then as he realized that the pain and suffering he feels is real enough he keeps up the confident act in order to not break down mentally.
>>767455
>whose only motivation for doing anything is a retarded sense of "love" for a character with less personality than a glass of tapwater and another inexplicably strong attachment for a character who feels like she was written like the author followed a waifubait for dummies book, and these are the most relevant characters to the fucking story.
I'm certain that the people who actually thinks this are on the spectrum. Emilia was the first person who gave a shit about Subaru in an alien world, he decides to help her out and becomes involved with her and learns that without his intervention she will be butchered like a pig. He could've ditched her in the beginning like a psychopath and done whatever but his basic sense of morality prevented him from doing so. Then as he continued to die countless times in order to help her it developed into an obsession for her. It's not inexplicable. It's natural. Not to mention Emilia hit all of his fetishes just right.
On an unrelated note. The thing about Re:zero is that it's not some time travel story, the time looping is not what the story is about. It's primarily a romantic show. To complain about the time looping aspect of the show is like disregarding the comedy in Groundhog Day to spazz out over the time looping mechanics.
No.767570
Why did Emilia tell him to call her Satella, the name of the witch everyone hates, when they first met? She flipped her shit when he called her by that name after he died and reset, but other than that I don't think it was ever mentioned again.
No.767578
Rem Best Girl. We all know it.
No.767580
>>767570
I assume it might matter in some later volume. All the "just because she is a white-haired halfelf doesn't mean she has anything to do with the witch at all" kinda implies that it will be important later.
For that scene, it was just to drive the whole theme home. Everything he experienced before he dies is retconned. She never got to know him as well agan, so this remeins something that only she is supposed to know and he seems like kind of a creepy weirdo who is attachet to her for seemingly no reason.
No.767587
>>767520
>dials it to 11 then twists the knob off.
It didn't do this as well as Knights&Magic did. Eru is cute. CUTE.
No.767600
>>767394
I didn't like a single character.
I didn't like a line of dialogue
I enjoyed the first scenario though.
>>767455 Said it well
No.767635
I watched the first 7 or so episodes and then dropped it because most of the characters were unlikable and annoying. Especially the faggot MC and the generic waifubait meido.
The catboy was cute though.
No.767636
>>767635
What's wrong with the MC's fucking hair anyways?
No.767642
>>767587
>KnM
>they actually get their kingdom run over
>enemy has some near-equal OP guy
>they have some close call battles
>there is tension
>harem is just like 2-3 girls
Not even on the same level
No.767655
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>>767635
>I watched the first 7 or so episodes and then dropped
>The catboy was cute though.
At least watch it until he actually appears in the show. The scenes with him and his master are worth the wait, also you'll see most characters except them suffer. The fight scenes are pretty good too.
No.767669
>>767489
"I need other people to decide what is good and what isn't for me, because I can't think for myself and enjoy partaking in the sucking of cocks." - The post.
>>767532
Emilia hits all of my fetishes just right. Including the best lap pillow I've ever seen.
I'd say that Honda's unwavering dedication to her was by far his most redeeming feature. Certainly in my eyes it was.
No.767670
>>767669
>unwavering dedication to her
Yeah, except for the part where he tried to run away with Rem.
No.767672
>>767669
"I lack reading comprehension and here is proof of my idiocy with my pick of best girl." - The post.
No.767674
>>767394
Reading summaries of the chapters is more compelling than reading the chapters themselves. That's the mark of a great story and bad storytelling. Unfortunately, Re:Zero's runaway success means the author's ego will inflate and he'll likely never step back and revise it. That's fantastic if you're one of the Stephen Kings of the world, but no one in their right mind would compare the first few books to something like Carrie.
With some tweaks and careful considerations, and a whole lot more tact, Re:Zero could be much better than it is. At the same time, is it good enough now?
No, not based on the adaption. The anime plays the plot close to its chest, but in that, it fails. Subaru didn't get hundreds of words to convey his thoughts or action in nuance, but the animators did little to compensate, resigned to letting it be "just another Isekai". The early scenes were conveyed in either too much or too little detail, paced nonsensically, hinging on the conceptual gimmick of the plot to be a compelling hook. Later (more structured!) scenes were delivered well, but failed to convey any feeling of gravity due to lackluster sound design and performances in both the VA and animator's camps.
From a purely delivery-centric perspective, most dialogue scenes could have had their length cut in half using appropriate cadence, body-language, and real conversations that aren't "WORDS WORDS WORD?" "YEAH WORDS WORDS WORDS EXPOSITION!". Most action scenes failed to alternate between heavy action and building tension in a reasonable way, which is probably why most people get bored. I could dissect a 'climactic battle scene' from this and one from, say, Fist of the North Star, but I think it's fair policy to decline to put more effort into a product than its own creators did, so fuck that noise.
I'd say it's a 4/10 bumped up to maybe 5 or 6 for being tolerable and inoffensive as opposed to daring or interesting. Mediocre, in many ways.
No.767675
>>767532
>If you don't believe someone is willing to dedicate their every waking moment to supporting some weird stranger who seems like she's carrying a lot of baggage and is involved with some dangerous shit in everything she does just because she doesn't behave like a complete bitch you must be autistic
No.767677
>>767674
>I could dissect
Please don't. Actually, please don't ever write anything again.
No.767678
>>767677
I am that anon I wrote this post explicitly because you told me not to.
No.767684
>>767677
>I could dissect
Is there something wrong with saying that? It doesn't sound out of place the way >>767674 used it.
No.767693
Cranky blonde twindrills S rank
Tsun Redhead Oni B rank
Everyone else a shit
No.767787
>>767455
>Hyundai constantly flip-flops between being an incompetent whiny idiot and a super-determined badass
Yes, I'd love to see a Korean parody of the show.
No.767794
>>767394
I always felt that people hated it because his rant about how pathetic he is hits too close to home for many anons.
No.767798
>>767794
That part was actually the only moment where I started to like his character a little bit. Seeing him suffer in despair after being an annoying idiot throughout the show was very satisfying for me
No.767823
>>767684
It's grammatically correct, as far as I can tell. I don't have a problem with what he wrote but how he wrote it. He used many words, saying little and sounding kinda pretentious.
No.767922
>Why didn't subaru do everything perfectly? What a moron I however would have done things like casually commit suicide 10 000 times while training with swords so I would eventually be a swordmaster and just kill everything.
People who say this should stick to fairy tail and a little bit more to Boruto, just too of them, just that.
12 year old kids also believe they can shoot a heat vision if they try enough after watching Superman.
>I got too much second hand embarrassment from Subaru's antics since it reminded me of how much of a faggot I was in high school.
People who say that probably don't even know why they exist on planet earth, since the Subaru IS in his highschool years, and it only makes sense for him to be this way, he takes initiative, is flawed and does best what he can, I will have thousands like him as MC over even a single Yuki Rito or Goku or pretty much any MC who is not Rararagi, 8man or Ikki K.
>It's just Fantasy Steins Gate.
Do I even need to bother explaining this one or the people who come up with this excuse of all things?
I likes this anime, I see why people dislike (nitpick) on this anime, for one thing it is true that Emilia did not get justice, enough screen time, but I don't get why she is hated for it, I put my faith in the anime and a sequel will fix that for me, I liked Subaru a lot as a matter of fact, after years I have found a MC who is both relatable and heroic enough to loop up to instead of "POWER OF FREINDSHIP" cancer again.
_Worst approach to an anime is comparing to ANY other anime, it's impossible to make an anime which has literally no resemblance to any other anime that happen to come before it, Re Zero did it pretty nicely with who dark souls border line time travel fusion, it also took a very realistic approach, a POV if all the elements of video games were against us, no real promise of Exp, no sure level up, manually learning any skills etc, but all the bad parts like monsters and they ridiculous ability, I might be being biased maybe but I sure did love this anime._
_I would also like to say I never saw why we need to hate Rem or Emilia, why is it exclusive? Fuck that childishness, that shit was pointless when Onodera did not win against Chitoge even though fan votes were literally saying every one hates Chitoge and lives Onodera, Emilia and Rem are both such lovable characters, I simple love both._
No.767924
>>767674
Wait, are not you saying author has potential of 7/10 with right criticism?
I do feel adaption will try to improve, we need the author to work closely with anime studio, in such cases the author being in sync with the mangaka if manga is serialised before, always help, it lets the LN writers have a clear idea of what visually would be good in "situation" and what parts need to be kept and what need to be ommited from a much less brutal experience.
No.767956
>>767511
The only character I enjoyed was street rat, since she had some semblance of a soul and personality. Though Ogredaddy let me down by not raping the elf.
No.767958
>>767922
>"it's the dark souls of time travel anime"
No.767961
>>767922
I didn't know we had actual chuunis on /a/.
Can't decide if this is hilarious or pathetic. Guess it can be both.
No.767963
>Re:Zero was last year.
Fuck me, time goes fast.
No.767989
It didn't feel like an anime to me. When I found out it was a Web Novel originally, I wasn't surprised. It's set up as a very long form story.
Like many Isekai, I think the anime aspect was the worst part too.
No.767993
>>767963
Wow man, I could swear to christ that it aired in the Spring of 2015. After reading your post, and checking on the internet, I started sweating profusely as I realized that I completely lost track of time.
No.768042
>>767823
I don't like to write anything using the same words repetitively, it gets boring. Every sentence has a purpose, though, it's not like I threw in random pretense. From the top:
>Establish problem, relate to context. Elaborates on why problem persists, and then why the lack of self-correction bothers me. Address a possible weasel argument and the important question.
>Provide my view on important question. Explains why I think the anime doesn't live up to the LN without going too far into the LN itself (topic of thread is the anime). Provides possible counterexample and explains why those fall flat.
>Identify readily fixable issues with some exaggeration, though not as much as I'd hope. Pursues those issues, relates to commonly held opinion. Explains why I'm not going to provide specific examples (they should be readily apparent).
>Opinion expressed quantitatively.
If I wanted to cut anything out, it'd probably be the Stephen King reference, though it does draw comparison to another hit author who gathered a rabid fanbase after their very first book.
>>767924
The author grappled with story elements and concepts way above his weight class way too quickly. He's improved dramatically over his Syosetsu days and first few LN, but the story's overall success makes it unlikely he'll ever think to revise the first few stories. I'm coming at this from a personal perspective, where I did very similar things (OK work, neat concepts) but didn't get my dick sucked to the moon and back (Japan will treat shit like gold) so I've continually tackled my past mistakes rather than ignoring them and moving on.
The adaption is a whole different boat and I have zero sympathy for the soulless execs who greenlit and oversaw it. White Fox is somewhere near the top of my shitlist at this point.
No.768054
>>767394
I didn't like it, and I watched all of it.
Subaru was, as a protag, just plain unlikable. And the rest of the characters were pretty cuntish too. In the end, I can't give a shit or like a show when everyone in it is awful.
No.768057
The most angering part of this show was definitely when they decided he was going to get character development, and because the show wanted to shit on otakus and neet, Subaru comes to the conclusion that he's a shitty loser who "can't accomplish anything, and only pretends he can," despite the fact that he's already accomplished a fuck ton in the show and saved multiple people from dying.
No.768059
The lack of speedloli was a huge disappointment.
No.768178
>>768057
>Subaru comes to the conclusion that he's a shitty loser who "can't accomplish anything, and only pretends he can," despite the fact that he's already accomplished a fuck ton in the show and saved multiple people from dying.
Robin williams killed himself despite being loved worldwide and accomplished a lot.
No.768796
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>>767394
It had its ups and downs. There were some parts that were pretty bad and others that were really good. Even a couple of great moments in my opinion (mostly related to Wilhelm). But over all I'd say 'okay' describes it. The parts I thought were bad were over soon enough and the rest of it was alright enough to make getting to the high points not feel like a chore. I get why people didn't like it though.
>>767402
>she will never call you Barusu
No.768814
>>768178
He was diagnosed with parkinsons and some other terminal mental disease.
No.768873
>>768814
That alone usually isn't enough to push someone to suicide. Perhaps towards ideation, but for the most part, it's the cherry on top of the pile of shit that has become a suicidal person's life.
No.769056
>>768873
Robin had a bunch of alimony to pay from his last 2 or 3 gold digging wives, all of his money from acting went to them; forcing him to do work he didn't even want to just to pay them off.
No.770739
>>767962
Subaru did not praise the sun enough, but we sure did have a "Sun Bro" in the show.
No.770742
>>767961
>Chunni
I don't think the word actually means what you think it really means, anon.
No.770759
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Subaru's suffering got me so hard I would have been happy if the show ended on pic related. Subaru's character was logical, if he was an unambitious nobody in real life why would anything change in his new world.
After he had decided to live the show's focus should have switched to political intrigue or world building or something else, otherwise it was a snooze fest.
No.770775
>>770759
I wish they kept the extreme grimdark theme of that entire arc throughout more of the show.
I lost my shit completely at that scene.
No.770777
>>770759
>>770775
In fact, remembering this makes me want to watch the whole thing again just so I can experience Barusu getting murdered by Rem and Barusu getting murdered while trying to save Rem and Lia from getting murdered.
No.770778
>>770775
But it's only grimdark because its contrasted by more lighthearted stuff.
No.770781
>>770777
The part where Daihatsu wakes up after discovering that Rem was his muderer and has a panic attack and total breakdown was great. I still don't get how we were supposed to believe that a rational human being, and a supposed 'NEET' no less, would be able to get over a complete emotional breakdown and just decide to do his job real good-like so he could stay and live with his murderer and a gay clown.
No.770788
And that's what made him great: He kept trying. That was his actual superpower. All of his shittiness and constant fuck-ups were in contrast with, and complimented by, this one incredible quality of his. Or was it that he showed absolute selflessness in critical times?
No.770803
>>770788
I don't like it because it made me hate everyone and then expect me to feel sympathetic to them when they died horribly.
Catgirl (male) was the only character that wasn't shit.
No.770804
>>770803
And fuck me, I quoted someone when I didn't want to.
No.770806
>>767635
This is my first time realizing that it's okay for catboys to be cute, and to find them cute. I think I've really grown.
No.770816
>>770806
Might I interest you in some more of that? >>>/chaos/
Sage for off-topic.
No.770858
>>770806
>It's okay for catboys to be cute, and to find them cute
This.
No.770918
I dealt with the tingle I felt in my pants when Felix nibbled Suzuki's ear the only way any anon who isn't a fucking faggot does: I pretended it's a girl.
No.770919
>>770918
>posting the wrong fucking picture
No.770980
>>767394
I liked it and am reading translationchickens translation of it. Ultimately it frustrates me because it refuses to be a straightforward fantasy tale and is constantly swelling up with half-finished lore and questions about questions. It's ridiculous how off the rails the story gets and continues to get, no one could imagine at the start how far away thief loli and the selection process would be from the modern story.
Like Homestuck I'd welcome a tighter stripped down story with lots of removed characters and altered plotlines. Unlike homestuck the plotlines haven't suffered mass abortions as of yet, I've come to despise all sorts of front-loaded media which drags on forever then hurries up at the finish, steins;gate is the only show I remember doing that well.
>WoE barely plays a role despite being central antagonist
>every 5 seconds progress is halted so he can solve a new problem that takes an inordinate amount of the story
>There's a lot of cringe factor in subaru
>too many fucking characters
>the story never, and will never, move at a decent pace
>>767401
I wouldn't call Re;creators divisive it was pretty despised and disappointing. The talking was incessant, illogical, and poor replacement for shit actually happening. I assume more people liked virgin soul than liked Re;creators, it's a better candidate for divisive.
No.771058
>>771042
>traps-are-gay posts get deleted
Stop making shit up, they were talking about 3D trannies not traps.
No.771059
>>770781
Lots of self hatred.
No.771084
>>771042
Traps are 100% gay, if you like them because of the trap part. Lusting after cock is gay. The same goes for futa. That won't change how much I like them.
The posts that got deleted where discussing 3D trannies, and how liking them wouldn't be gay as they are supposedly girls. How that makes you think the BO is a tranny is beyond me.
No.771102
It's alright. Could've been worse, could have been better. I do like the character designs though, as well as Subaru. Not as much as Kazuma, but he's still entertaining.
No.771118
>>771084
Ehh, I'd say it's about 75-80% gay. 100% gay is wanting to fuck a big, macho chad. Traps are still predominantly gay, but they're not the gayest thing you could want to fuck.
No.771123
I watched the whole thing and to me it felt like it was just a shitty fantasy anime that tried too hard to be serious by placing sad and emotional moments here and there to make teenagers and virgins find something in it that they can relate to.
If I had to use food as an analogy, it's like someone gave me a plain pizza with nothing except a few pineapple pieces placed randomly and as much as I like pineapples in my pizza, I expect much more. Steins;Gate gets it right, Steins;Gate is fun for more reasons than just having characters tragically die in brutal ways.
tl;dr fans of this anime have shit taste
No.771127
>>771123
>Steins;Gate is fun for more reasons than just having characters tragically die in brutal ways.
>huehue Dr Pepper
Nice joke. S;G was even more shallow than Re:zero.
No.771135
>>771127
>S;G was even more shallow than Re:zero.
It's statements like these that give you away, stupid kid.
No.771137
>>771135
S;G is just about stupid memes and oh so tragic suffering, it has the philosophical depth of a puddle.
No.771139
>>771137
Yeah, and Re:Zero was written by Aristotle himself...
I'm sure there's a nice and friendly facebook group for you Re:Zero kids to discuss its DEEP and MEANINGFUL plot.
No.771143
>>771139
But he didn't even imply that Re:Zero was deep and meaningful.
Also,
>trying to assume a position of superiority by calling someone who disagrees with you "a kid"
Eat dicks, faggot.
No.771152
>>771143
>Nice joke. S;G was even more shallow than Re:zero.
>it has the philosophical depth of a puddle.
Are you too dumb to comprehend what was written?
>saging
>eat dicks faggot!!!!!11
And they expect me to treat them like adults.
No.771174
>>771127
What the hell does philosophy have to do with liking S;G, it doesn't need to be deep or philosophical to be a good or decent shows. I don't understand the criticisms some of you guys level at shows, it's entertainment not philosophy class that doesn't excuse stupidity but it's not negative for it to not be deep or insightful.
No.771310
>>771152
Your personal perception of Re:Zero is blinding you to what is actually being said.
That anon believes that Re:Zero has the philosophical depth of a slightly large puddle and Stein's Gate falls within the territory, denigrating both.
You believe that Stein's Gate is some juggernaut of philosophical thought, and therefore comparing Re:Zero with it would imply that Re:Zero "was written by Aristotle himself...", something that no one other than you has asserted or believes to have been asserted.
I've gone ahead and filled out your form for you. If you need help, you can just ask, you know? No need to be coy.
No.771314
I really liked it even though I love emilia which made me punch my fucking wall and the final episode ending with absolutely no conclusion whatsoever with so many things left in the open, making me break my left wrist this time.
No.771317
>>767520
>phone god
>moshi moshi touya desu
>pls kill all enemies onegai
>anime over
No.771353
>>771317
To be fair, towards the end they were getting into some mysterious stuff like ancient flying arboretums and magic mechs, with robo-slut waifus to boot, so there was plenty of room for more material after the battle-absurdity knob was cranked past its limit. The way Smartphone was developed somehow made a second season sound pretty fun.
>>770980
>I wouldn't call Re;creators divisive
Holy fug, improve your reading comprehension, Anon. No one was calling Re:Creators anything but a standard for shittyness.
No.771354
>>771353
>No one was calling Re:Creators anything but a standard for shittyness
But anon, it was a classic in the making!
No.771358
>>771310
>You believe that Stein's Gate is some juggernaut of philosophical thought
Uhh, no, don't assume shit I never said. I believe Steins;Gate has much more to offer than just sappy emotional moments in an otherwise bland anime. I couldn't care if an anime was about as philosophical as Himouto! Umaru-chan as long as it's manages to be fun and entertaining.
According to these posts:
>Nice joke. S;G was even more shallow than Re:zero.
>S;G is just about stupid memes and oh so tragic suffering, it has the philosophical depth of a puddle.
Apparently that anon cares about philosophy in anime and about anime being "deep" or whatever, personally I don't watch Japanese drawings to look for answers to life, but he does, hence my ironic statement about Re:Zero being written by Aristotle.
Here's a bigger form if you want to describe your butthurt in more detail.
No.771371
The moment Subaru gave up a premium waifu I decided that the entire series was just retroactive karma for his shit taste. It's a pretty good show and a pretty good take on the "Another world" genre, on the opposite end of No Game No Life.
I wouldn't mind more of the LN being adapted.
No.771374
>>770918
>Pretend it's a girl
YOU FOOL!
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!
The proper way to deal with a trap is through pure, focused disgust.
No.771497
>>771370
>/a/ has a tranny mod
Except that's not actually true. You're just dumb enough to believe anything a couple of goon faggots spam on /ameta/. I'd tell you to lurk more, but then again, you're probably one of them.
No.771880
>>767394
>Why didn't subaru do everything perfectly? What a moron I however would have done things like casually commit suicide 10 000 times while training with swords so I would eventually be a swordmaster and just kill everything
Because it is Shinji Ikari and just like in case of Shinji show fucking failed at showing real good reasons for his suffering.
Lets not lie about it, our lives are boring enough for us to choose Subaru powers and dying on daily basis over them. So we are seeing this guy actually stopping having a mundane live but instead of doing something he just cries in the corner.
No.771889
>>771880
It's not about that, at least not for me.
What really ticked me off was the fact that he had to die about 4 times until he even realized his ability
No.771896
>>771773
Basically, if you watch the show up until here it's a decent anime. If you watch after, it's trash.
No.771946
>>770918
I want to bend Felix over a table and rail his ass viciously while I jerk off his huge catboy cock.
No.772031
I enjoyed it up to the point they returned to the capital, the first two plotlines felt nice and tight, after that they started introducing too many extraneous characters and plot elements. The whole whale section seemed like such an unnecessary sidetrack from the goal of saving the manor, It removed any emotional investment I had from >>771773
I wish they would have gone into explaining what Satela's deal was, since that was the only plot thread that had my interest when it ended.
No.772074
>>772031
I would have been fine with the Whale bullshit if I hadn't been forced to waste an entire episode learning the backstory of the fucking butler.
No.772206
>>767394
the manga was better, haven't read the LN yet but i suppose it will also be better than the anime
No.772384
>>772031
The two meaningful parts of the whale episode is it sets down the recurring theme of 'not being able to save everyone'. It's important also because later on one of the sin cardinals has a similar power. I would say it's poor pacing in that regard but its a key part of the plot that foreshadows later events. The butler's backstory is also relevant for the same reason.
No.772386
>>770775
There is plenty of SUFFERING in the latest volume.
No.772410
>>772384
I suppose I should have clarified, I'm an anime only, so the whale section seemed unnecessary because they never expanded on it. If I read the source material I'd probably see it differently, but since in the anime they never really show any consequences of fighting the whale it seems like it could be easily removed/replaced.