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File: 112fb7a15c5b809⋯.png (193.98 KB,1200x498,200:83,whatifwedoourownthing.png)

 No.47945 [Open thread]

OK, I know this a meme at this point that sl is bad and what they do next is bad. But I gotta ask how hard would it be to make our own thing at this rate.

>Give creators the tools they need

>not have it's own special snowflake code

>allow the same thing secondlife gives but add onto that and just make it more user friendly and creator friendly

>maybe add world exploration stuff/better world making as well

>etc.

I see people make/come up with great ideas for sl and obviously none of it is ever going to be in sl. What I'm getting at is how hard would you guys think it would be to make a better sl. What ideas would make this new sl better than the old. What would make you move over to this new sl. And what should the new sl do that the old sl does so old players won't get upset or confused/That shouldn't be changed because it's ok as is.

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 No.47999

>>47995

Many commercial OpenSim grids tried to get the crown and be the next and better SecondLife.

But because of the many technical limitations that you have if you want your users to be able to use SecondLife viewers, everybody who is hosting a sim can also overwrite permissions.

Commercial grids that still wanted to have those permissions because they want to make money with content had to shut their users in. They forbid hypegrid tps to other grids and their users can't run their own sims. So basically they are just like SL, but even worse.

InWorldz is the Nr.1 most popular example (they had to shut down this year).

You can't make money with content in OpenSim, everything should be Full Perm. and thats not a bad thing, i saw some nice projects in OpenSim that did outclass their SecondLife counterparts by far. OpenSim even has NPCs.

But hell, all those pre-mesh people that want to sell their system clothes on Kitely or some other OpenSim markets are cancer. They are still fighting against everything that's mesh and assume that everybody who has anything thats mesh is a copybotter.

>and set up content creation to keep out the really laggy crap we get in SL

kek, most people don't realise how true this is. Bad content is the huge Nr.1 reason for lag.

On my region in OpenSim, that is currently filled with up to 15.000 LI, i get constant 70 fps on my laptop, with drawing distance set to >600. In SL i have to limit drawing distance to 200m to get acceptable 25 FPS in a Full Region.

The content is the difference. i am decent at Blender now and thanks to OpenSim being Open, i can just (re)upload and combine my things how i want them to be.

Ever built a beach in SL with one of those beach building kits? Export them -> combine them in Blender, cut things out that are hidden anyway -> upload them again with reasonable LOD levels. A 100 LI beach suddenly has just 2.

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 No.48027

>>47996

>>47999

LL does some things very right that their competitors get very wrong, no doubt. And they're making some improvements like some of the things you mention, but they still don'tseem to be doing anything to deal with the main performance killing issues in SL. Either they don't care SL runs like crap, or they don't understand how SL works. Either way they're being stupid.

And I never said you could compete with SL just by being SL with better features. I said that the most you could probably hope for was being more successful than the other OS grids. The OP didn't ask about competing with SL. They asked about making a better SL.

If you want to actually compete with SL you need a full development studio, with competent people helping you design the thing from the ground up, and a lot of money to pay for everything until you can finally start making a profit.

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 No.48107

>>47996

VRChat has already figured out the problem to the "paid market" issue. At least, the Japanese community has. They literally have worlds that act as stores and malls where people can try on avatars or grab props and they're given a price and told to contact them on Discord. If anything it's equivalent to pre-marketplace SL right now.

VRChat's biggest "issue" is the fact that people who play SecondLife now are, to be blunt, lazy. Let's be real, how many worlds do you walk into where there's just a bunch of people AFKing? Or just talking in PMs, ignoring public chat entirely?

Or, if you want to e-fuck (like a good portion of people in SL do) you need a headset at least, and full body is preferred. Then on top of that instead of just sitting at your desk cranking it out to your avatar posing on a screen, you're positioned somewhere in you room pelvic thrusting into the air like a retard. You also need decent social skills, etc etc

In general, Secondlife is more "convenient" than VRChat. When I want to play VRChat, I'm only playing VRChat. I generally can't do anything else. If I boot up Secondlife, I can literally let it sit in the background and ignore it until someone PMs me.

>>47950

>Wait another 6 months and it will be gone.

People said this six months ago. Also HTC is literally funding them at the moment. You're wrong.

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 No.48110

>>48027

>The OP didn't ask about competing with SL. They asked about making a better SL.

Ok, but then every hg enabled OpenSim grid is technically already a better SL.

It's an SecondLife clone with slightly more features (NPCs, ossl functions) you can host your own sim and there is no (no modify) bullshit.

The only thing thats worse is the competition issue. No users, no creators.

And it has tons of problems that it inherited from SL.

I think that just being slightly better than SL really isn't enough.

>>48107

VRChat couldn't even overtake SL during it's initial hype. They might stay around if they get solid funding, but it's no competition.

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 No.48119

>>48110

>And it has tons of problems that it inherited from SL.

>I think that just being slightly better than SL really isn't enough.

You're absolutely right. No SL user is interested in leaving behind their friends, inventory and all of the existing user created content of SL for something slightly better, and no one uninterested in SL is going to be impressed by a slightly better knock off.

SL's biggest problems all come from LL thinking "as long as it (mostly) works" is good enough. That's the main thing that needs fixing, but it's still a huge amount of work. I don't think anyone could do it unless they had a small team working on it full time for a couple of years.

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File: dc1dfc7fd121054⋯.png (2.34 MB,1920x1027,1920:1027,Snapshot_008.png)

 No.47972 [Open thread]

Why does everyone want to be so lewd? I just want to explore and find weird sims, or relax at my place and goof off with friends

Does anybody still like hopping to random sims, looking around, and getting into harmless mischief?

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 No.48021

>>47980

dress to impress or I will just treat you as you look my dear.

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 No.48022

>>48021

>my dear

Cringe

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 No.48023

>>48017

Whats this sim with the jap moonrunes called?

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 No.48024

>>47972

why sim hop? sl is all the same.

Barren land/laggy prim castle/40 bots staring in 1 direction/BDSM club. Sim hopping shows you how empty sl really is. I used to be a sim hopper now I am just jaded. GLHF

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 No.48026

File: 1e481ab7852a192⋯.png (2.31 MB,1920x1027,1920:1027,Snapshot_042.png)

>>48023

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Cerulean%20Isle/153/79/23

>>48024

Honestly I like exploring the builds more than meeting tons of people

I'm bad at socializing on SL

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File: 36db86fcfdcdd25⋯.jpg (89.59 KB,640x1024,5:8,1rg2t42t117r1279r712917297….jpg)

 No.47966 [Open thread]

>the absolute state of SL today..

Who are these drama queens and why do they think they're so important? Its like basic bitch level unknown designers taking pot shots at each others uninspired content and like a handful of high school kids making boyfriend/girlfriend drama.

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File: 0c8701558be6ec7⋯.png (668.71 KB,831x701,831:701,do not pet the kitty.png)

 No.47855 [Open thread]

Why are there not more solo/prop style adult objects? I've seen a few things but they're all terrible. Where would you even find them? Asking for a friend, of course.

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 No.47862

>>47856

Yeah but do you really think people will make things for that, or will they just go rub one out in an idle sim instead

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 No.47872

>>47862

You won't need to make stuff specifically for animesh. You can grab any fully rigged avatar <100k polygons and turn it into your own sexbot.

All you need to is a bit of scripting. Have 1 poseball with the avatar animations that sends a message to the AO script in the animesh object to play the matching animation and you're done

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 No.47913

I miss sensual stoneworks

I went to their store and jacked off to getting fucked by their creations more than once

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 No.47917

>>47913

holy fuck i forgot about them

do you remember that dragon statue that fucked you and forced you to lay an egg after. It gave you that hydra pet you could wear on your shoulder. Damn that place was a trip

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 No.47919

Someone paid me to fug their dog.

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File: 6141820239976b2⋯.jpg (152.34 KB,1280x720,16:9,hrrrrrmm.jpg)

 No.47888 [Open thread]

Anyone know?

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 No.47899

>>47897

>Grandpa's Garage is a pedo sim.

Last time I was there I only saw the generic SL hipster dudes and generic SL thotsaurs (who were also 60% dudes RL looking for some sucker to golddig)

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 No.47900

File: 34cbe7e067e41c5⋯.gif (3.87 MB,500x281,500:281,1469974727567.gif)

>>47899

The majority of pedos in SL dress exactly the same as the boomers/normies: like a bunch of Hot Topic employees and turbo-thots. Go to any "adoption"/"playground"/"nudist" sim and you'll see for yourself.

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 No.47901

File: fcce84874895064⋯.jpg (16.95 KB,480x360,4:3,al1.jpg)

>>47900

>Go to any "adoption"/"playground"/"nudist" sim and you'll see for yourself.

Yeah but 99% of those aren't actually pedos. They're normies doing G rated family roleplay. Some old RL women love to play as these creepy ass toddler avatars for some reason.

Most actual pedos on SL you'll probably find in the anime community.

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 No.47902

>>47901

>there's nothing wrong with my child avatar, I'm a wholesome family RPer, it's those anime faggots who are the real pedos

Sure, anon. We believe you.

In all seriousness though, I know what you mean about a lot of the adoption stuff just being weird creepy middle-aged ladies playing house. I know there are ageplayers who use the kemono, too. Even so, I don't think you can really look at any particular avatar age range and say, "those are the ageplayers, everyone else <18 is fine," because what age or avatar aesthetic pedos are into can vary. I know it's not the most satisfying answer, but "you'll know it when you see it" definitely applies.

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 No.47905

>>47899

Oh anon you have no idea. Poor, poor anon.

Most 'grandpas' are looking for 'grand daughters' on SL.

The generic avs are the veil.

>>47902

Anon probably mentioned anime because let's face it, most 40 year old women are not watching Oreimo.

I would say it's more like 85%, not 99%, or maybe I'm just paranoid of those sims.. Actually let's just say 'Human avs know it's against TOS and hide it, anime avs tend to not care and post their pantsu to flickr'.

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File: c741dfa4393fd1a⋯.png (73.36 KB,304x202,152:101,d76aadd5dbbe68647b90f178ec….png)

 No.47137 [Open thread]

No nameso's

Stupid BDSM club, never had an original build ever, just modified Fanatik/Abiss bullshit

Every fuckboi in SL dresses like him so yeah fucking Deadwool for days and fucking gross ass tattoos and ear gauges and hipster beards everywhere.....and its because they think hes legit.

Never done an original thing in SL other than rent shit, buy shit and let his girlfriends decorate his clubs.

EFF EMMMMM DEEEEEEEEEE is full of fucking incel's and drama queens that are so up their own asses they can smell what they ate for breakfast and this dude just sits there creaming money off these lonely loser fucks and setting a horrible standard for whats left of the actual men in SL.

Don't be a hipster zombie, the fact that this dude has a master leash literally ON HIS HAND at all times tells you exactly what he is, useless homestuck NEET just creaming cash and weakminded no self esteem bitches out of SL.

The sooner people go stop standing in a circle at that place, the better the fucking grid will be. Get your shit outta there, there are plenty of other places to go.

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 No.47275

>>47237

Bitch you're on fucking infchan, what fucking hugbox planet do you think you live on.

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 No.47801

oh shit nigga got ban

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 No.47804

>>47801

Who, the owner?

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 No.47839

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 No.47898

Only just now realizing this guy is the owner of FMD. Hahahahahaahahaha did he actually start the other thread on the other board?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146211667@N06/31097594988/

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File: ae2a867345dd372⋯.png (322.81 KB,1000x583,1000:583,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.47409 [Open thread]

Has anyone used this program? It allows you to see all the textures saved into your sl viewer cache, and export them as usable files where you can modify and upload if you wish. I've been using it for years to make minor edits to things I've bought that were mod. Things like changing colors or in some cases fixing bad textures.

One thing I've always wondered is whether or not it's against TOS to use this program. If I was caught doing it could I be reported for copybotting? The textures are in my cache, on my hard drive, and I'm only editing things I've paid for, so I'm not stealing anything or selling anything.

Any hard infos?

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 No.47863

>>47409

You don't need to use special programs just post your user/pass here.

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 No.47864

>>47863

Fuck off pubbie

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 No.47865

>>47409

Enjoy your virus. :^)

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 No.47868

>>47865

proof?

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 No.47869

>>47619

Mine stopped working too, texture cache won't update.

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File: 014356c5746fb28⋯.png (545.81 KB,1232x812,44:29,whenshesayssheislateonherp….png)

 No.47106 [Open thread]

So i wont bore you with details but got banned for age play / girl calling me daddy in rp. This happend 2 or 3 yrs ago

Happened twice in a span of a year and i wondering if i stay away from that bs ( not into ddlg anymre) will it happen again?

i dont wanna rejoin and waste money starting up again if it just going to be me getting fucked again because someone called me daddy and i called her my little girl.

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 No.47369

>>47352

>>47368

rp in a different window than SL

that said I've been doing it in SL for years and have yet to be banned (knock on wood) because I only do it with people that I've known for a while.

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 No.47370

>>47316

protip: they can't put McTaxes on limit buy orders

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 No.47389

>>47369

I guess it's time to find friends that I can use as linden mules

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 No.47790

one of my friends got banned due to a joke akin to being born on a leap year making her technically 4 times younger than she actually was while screwing someone.

couple of hours later she was banned, yeah don't even joke about being underage on SL in IM they will ban you no questions asked and reject your appeals.

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 No.47794

>>47790

i make underrage references all the fucking time

who are you guys fuckin that report you as soon as they're done

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File: fdb5cc65f5ce84b⋯.jpg (435.3 KB,2048x1128,256:141,30759649053_60b823c339_k.jpg)

 No.45760 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

>finally made yourwhorish but cute looking avatar

>looking for hot guy to have a good RP and kinky sex

>no one IMs you in hours while you are standing in a room full of naked people

>someone finally IMs you

>"hey bitch_name nice tits XDDDDD"

Alright you morons and socially awkward people, in this thread you better share you secrets. Where do you find hot chicks and actually good sex partners in this ded game? That includes clubs.

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 No.47748

>>47727

I have to ask, is there really any difference in quality? At most, you might not have to deal with lookin at the occasional furry, but I sincerely doubt that the quality of people who go to these clubs is any different from the numerous free places you can go.

At most it sounds like the only thing you're paying for is the ability to.. AFK somewhere you don't have to look at the occasional furry.

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 No.47749

File: 300c5b04e4839ab⋯.jpg (112.15 KB,540x335,108:67,BVOF796goI5.jpg)

>>47748

>...is there really any difference in quality?

I've found personally that there usually is a noticeable difference in quality, but not all filters are the same and no filter achieves 100% purity. I think the lesson here is spend accordingly and have realistic expectations. At the end of the day it's SL we're dealing with here.

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 No.47753

>>47749

Ahs, my experience tends to be.. Theres less noobs, but also less people in comparison. The day to day doesn't really change much. Maybe some discussion in Local, but still a lot of AFKin and such. Usually not worth the money in my mind, but to each their own.

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 No.47759

File: 806dcfb3655ec0d⋯.png (137.39 KB,1024x770,512:385,kuruminha.png)

>>47727

>>47640

>>47656

>tfw brazilian

why does everyone hate us ;_;

also, i spent like 30$ to buy clothes and stuff

i also got lucky and some sugar daddy liked my avatar and gave me L$ to buy clothes etc

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 No.47789

>>47759

Oh that's fine. If you put a lot of effort into your avatars it'll do the talking for you, and if you're respectful and chill you'll be completely fine. The others were talking about the absolute cretins that have literally garbage avatars and either ask for sex constantly or beg for L$.

Ya know, that special type of br. Or player in general for that matter.

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File: a093446d65c0aea⋯.png (4.26 MB,1920x1080,16:9,Base Profile Screenshot 20….png)

File: b797b1938eea86b⋯.png (3.54 MB,1920x1080,16:9,Base Profile Screenshot 20….png)

 No.44357 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Nice things

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 No.47657

File: 335e6d843e7d691⋯.png (967.46 KB,618x779,618:779,rupert.png)

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 No.47693

File: b711b364bb642f5⋯.webm (3.8 MB,1920x1016,240:127,2018-08-19_14-43-07.webm)

>Not turning SL into an RPG

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 No.47723

>>47693

looks comfy what is your camera set up?

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 No.47740

>>47693

dat 3fps

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 No.47777

File: fac11bd459e3ce9⋯.png (20.08 KB,449x219,449:219,uQnwbWO[1].png)

File: 9b5883872e41550⋯.png (21.02 KB,447x219,149:73,xUrozWu[1].png)

>>47723

knock yourself out

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File: e3a442ecd27c225⋯.jpg (147.95 KB,512x512,1:1,avsitter.jpg)

 No.47429 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Did you ever realize how easy it is to copybot furniture with all animations included since AVsitter is OpenSource?

That's maybe just relevant for OpenSim people or people who want to share something with 10 friends, but

1. Open your furniture like it would be a box

2. Copybot all the animations with the same name

3. copy the AVpos notecard.

4. Upload everything

5. Drop the animations and the AVpos notecard inside the furniture

6. Drop the AVsitter scripts inside

And done, completely working furniture, already SetUp.

In SecondLife, it won't be worth it, because the upload costs will be a fortune, but for people in OpenSim, this opens so many possibilities of getting nice things fast.

It surprises me that it is still hard to find good furniture with animations in OpenSim, if AVsitter is OpenSource for 10 months now already.

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 No.47666

File: cee6f21e84876b9⋯.png (32.14 KB,653x559,653:559,MeshesSL_2018-08-16_08-17-….png)

>>47489

I'm trying to get the fitmesh rip thing to work but I keep getting this error. If I ignore it the file won't show up in the locked area.

Any tips on what to do?

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 No.47668

>>47666

Okay, so I fixed that problem, but now the cache won't load in the ripper if I'm assuming the squares are check boxes

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 No.47669

>>47668

It's strange, it will only read the cache occasionally on parts

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 No.47670

>>47669

Well, it just doesn't seem to be working at all now. I've got an "Error: Material of model is not a subset of reference model" on upload

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 No.47750

>>47670

>Error: Material of model is not a subset of reference model

You can try to upload it with a different older viewer. This error is just viewer related.

Some popular copybotters use the 4 year old onlook viewer. Its based on singularity and it can't view bento, but it is good just for uploading.

Strange upload errors are most of the time viewer related.

Sometimes you have to upload with an old as fuck viewer, sometimes you have to use the most recent one (like if the model changes and fixes joint positions of the rig - petitie bodies in example).

>>47669

You can fix that by either clearing your cache and doing everything all over again, or you login with your regular Firestorm, make sure that you can see the thing that you want to get, and select the regular Firestorm cache in the SL-Meshes application.

The viewer that is exporting the XML does not have to be the same viewer that is providing the cache files.

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File: b0c7999015f89a4⋯.png (371.33 KB,690x592,345:296,Akira-pose.png)

 No.42454 [Open thread]

hey, bored in SL? come at Tropical Paradise, nice thai girls wanting to have a good time w you!

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http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Knockturn%20Alley/133/141/22

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Kisses babys!!!!

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 No.42483

>>42454

>thai ``girls``

>no dick

nice try

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 No.42489

went there, it's a tiny empty bar with no one around

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 No.47686

>>42454

We should totally blow up this clubs traffic numbers and make it seem really popular....what with the rise of ageplay and incest clubs being the "hot" content in SL...the faster we make it big enough to be seen by people other than us...the faster the authorities will get involved and eventually shut SL down for hosting child pornography.

And then we'll all be free.....finally.

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 No.47691

>>47686

That discussion already happened in like 2006 or 2007 brah, it survived then and it'd survive now. Sorry.

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 No.47694

>>47691

In 2006 the Lindens had a lot of money. In 2018, after multiple failed investments...not so much.

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File: 8a4354842552ba8⋯.jpg (9.4 KB,160x232,20:29,download.jpg)

 No.39779 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

So looks like the old thread hit the bump limit, but it was time for a new one anyway.

Where are you playing right now?

What do you like about it?

What do you hate about it?

Dish the dirt, spill the gossip, tighten those cliques folks, it's the RP thread.

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 No.46944

Post on / second life / to make sure your posts don't get randomly deleted

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 No.46947

>>45713

Second-person when it's one-on-one. Third-person if there are three or more people involved in the scene. First-person never.

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 No.46948

>>45722

What you're describing is second-person, i.e. the kind of narration you'd get in something like Zork or a choose-your-own-adventure.

>first-person

"I slap your cheek and grab the bread from your hand."

>second-person

"John slaps your cheek and grabs the bread from your hand."

>third-person

"John slaps Mary's cheek and grabs the bread from her hand."

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 No.46949

>>45713

neither i write my own erotica and read it aloud to myself in the shower

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 No.47683

File: 20fe20f03c37d7c⋯.png (1.46 MB,2232x1152,31:16,Snapshot_005.png)

File: d90d85e6e43a101⋯.png (1.56 MB,2232x1152,31:16,moomoo.png)

Edited vs Non-edited

If you know who I am keep it pushing. You ain't see this

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File: 68bbe122a97addd⋯.jpg (24.27 KB,432x432,1:1,090216_sigh_P.jpg)

 No.42981 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

who here hasn't been on sl much lately

what are your reasons

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 No.47403

>>47402

maybe try being less cringy next time

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 No.47405

>>47403

Less cringy, how exactly?

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 No.47406

>>47405

don't listen to that guy

rp is dead anyway

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 No.47630

>>47402

"maybe we could party, just you and I ;)"

problem fuckin solved dude just stop being so fuckin full of yourself christ man

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 No.47631

>>47630

I think he's looking to get date raped. Saying that makes it all consensual.

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File: 1450963147060.png (454.07 KB,582x495,194:165,aWVUlDv.png)

 No.19723 [Open thread]

A gay beta male in his natural habitat, a gay club

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 No.47425

>>47424

i dont wanna hide

i want ppl to learn how to rp D:

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 No.47426

>>47421

The better it looks the more use it will get. It's like reinvesting in your business. The doll alt can literally have like fetish specific bullshit in the meantime.

I mean shit, most people only need to get a snokra or a belleza/slink body to be competitive with the garbage that exists right now.

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 No.47450

File: c4acef94fc41004⋯.gif (3.78 MB,480x300,8:5,ripoldslnotlikewelostanyth….gif)

>>47425

You got two choices out of this!

>OWO *jumps into pool and notices bulge* What's dis

Or

>uwu *notices your bulge under your loincloth* what is this?

People don't care about rp anymore, and I honestly blame all of sl rp communities for it. Not in the sense that they are lazy(some are) or it's a new tide of people or something like that. It's mostly the stuck up rp people or the cringe bucket of them that seem to act higher up or something. No one likes to publicly say they do rp anymore because of the weird cringe it brings now. Honestly tho if you pixel pound someone now a days if you just ask you want some rp most will say yes and some might not be the best and others might be god tier. Who fucking knows or cares anymore. either way old sl rp is dead anyways.

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 No.47587

>>47424

>tfw I find cool little sims and hidey holes to use when lewd RPing with friends

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 No.47588

>>47450

> old sl rp is dead anyways

good

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