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File: feac9cb8d0d3786⋯.png (31.43 KB,891x227,891:227,Screenshot from 2018-07-29….png)

 No.12555 [Open thread]

I'm sorry to tell you this, goyim.

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 No.12586

>>12583

Secular Jews, yes. They don't care because they're already genociding themselves through intermarriage, which is presumably what the other anon meant.

>>12585

They are UFAI and aliens.

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 No.12587

>>12586

Wow! What a significant discovery! Wait! Why the fucking hell do goyim still exist then?

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 No.12588

>>12587

Jews work in mysterious ways, and everything that happens is all part of their plan.

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 No.12592

>often more intelligent than large part of population

>using that to find exploits in rules, laws and practices for profit

>pursuing goals that are not strongly aligned with values and sometimes at odds with the goals of the community they take part in

>>12586

>They are UFAI and aliens.

this but less ironically?

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 No.12624

File: ecf4f59701287fb⋯.jpg (5.68 KB,174x162,29:27,CtYjmvuXEAAdGBB.jpg)

>>12587

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File: c6809499508f8c6⋯.png (49.18 KB,292x680,73:170,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.12405 [Open thread]

Rationalism: the use of emotionally charged hypothetical stories about children in order to destroy first-world nations.

How is this clown still respected by anyone?

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 No.12551

>>12550

Not to mention our lives.

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 No.12560

>>12551

fucking christ I do not come here for this.

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 No.12614

>>12560

As in "I don't want to be faced with this", or as in "I reject this narrative"?

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 No.12615

also Yud

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/28bAMAxhoX3bwbAKC/are-your-enemies-innately-evil

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 No.12617

>>12614

This is more like a short pasta but I posted it with honesty.

It's more the first and less the second.

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 No.12354 [Open thread]

Why is the tumblr rationalist community filled with "help vampires", people who suck up immense amounts of time and effort from people with actual skills without offering any real value in return?

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/eoc/help_vampire.htm

like, just off the top of my head:

Ozy

Olivia Schaefer

"thebiggerfish" aka Sylvia

Act/Accalia

How do we stop this menace and either force them to improve or oust them from spaces where they can continue to hurt people/waste the rest of our time?

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 No.12608

>>12607

Would be interesting to know what it's like in this city:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-chinese-city-where-men-have-three-girlfriends-because-there-are-so-many-women-10484270.html

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 No.12609

>>12608

>Dongguan

Nominative determinism.

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 No.12611

>>12609

How aware are Chinese people of "dong" meaning penis? Does nominative determinism act across languages?

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 No.12612

>>12611

There is a Chinese Wikipedia page about Don Juan, at least.

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 No.12613

>>12612

>Don Juan

Oh, that works a lot smoother than dong-one.

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File: a4036cdbe522b2f⋯.jpg (53.63 KB,1200x241,1200:241,cropped-Ward-Banner-Proper….jpg)

 No.11596 [Open thread]

>analytical female protag

>rough, short-tempered female teammate

>black badass

>troubled kid with a heart of gold

oops i wrote the same story again

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 No.12502

>>12500

Big Yud linked Worm from his tumblr, or his facebook, or something like that, a few years ago, back when HPMOR and Worm were being written at the same time I think

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 No.12511

>>12362

qntm is consistently based

http://www.scp-wiki.net/we-need-to-talk-about-fifty-five

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 No.12512

File: 43206a2b3a3c26a⋯.png (58.06 KB,595x275,119:55,excellent taste.png)

>>12511

Antimemetics Division Hub is fantastic

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 No.12515

I want to read a tale where all the Gamers Against Weed get mercilessly stomped by nazis resurrected by the GOC (or some similarly schlocky bad guy group like that) with lots of chatlogs of the Gamers Against Weed cry-typing as they're getting picked off

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 No.12571

>>12515

I read that as resurrected by GOG, the ancient nazi programs have returned, and the entire pack can be had for only $9.99, always DRM free!

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File: 072ad34a6cf54a3⋯.jpg (276.43 KB,1000x750,4:3,baby gamerman.jpg)

 No.12534 [Open thread]

I think my IQ is going down the drain.

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 No.12538

the lower I think my IQ is the easier my life becomes tbqh

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 No.12539

>>12536

I'm having more trouble absorbing abstract concepts, my eyes start glazing over faster when I'm reading something challenging, my vocabulary feels smaller

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 No.12543

>>12539

Are you sleeping enough?

Are you immersing yourself in different topics than you're used to?

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 No.12547

>>12539

You're just becoming a Grug.

Embrace it.

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 No.12552

>>12543

>Are you sleeping enough?

Yes

>Are you immersing yourself in different topics than you're used to?

I'm not immersing myself in anything, to be honest. It's like I've developed an aversion to mental effort.

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File: 8e8a9ccc06783f5⋯.jpg (10.7 KB,255x192,85:64,gossip.jpg)

 No.9040 [Open thread]

Why did Michael Vassar change his FB name? What happened to MetaMed?

Any other ingroup/ingroup-adjacent gossip?

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 No.9041

>>9040

Lurk moar. MetaMed went under years ago.

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 No.12446

Is someone on Tumblr trying to pull Eron Gjoni into the rationalist community?

https://antinegationism.tumblr.com/ (scroll down a bit)

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 No.12447

Someone answer my question that I asked here >>11633

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 No.12517

He got married.

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File: 13d127cd9c3b0d7⋯.png (8.96 KB,232x48,29:6,logo_trans.png)

 No.6143 [Open thread]

Politics is the mind killer

Shut up and mulitply

Reversed Stupidity Is Not Intelligence.

What can be destroyed by truth, should be

Beliefs should pay rent

Growth mindset. …yet!

Why do you believe what you believe?

…am I missing any slogans/catchphrases?

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 No.6152

>>6146

Today I wondered if treating reverse stupidity as intelligence is an evolved swarm intelligence technique that may actually be reasonable in some circumstances. Still not something the rationalist caste should do though.

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 No.6154

>>6152

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

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 No.6155

>>6154

http://lesswrong.com/lw/hd/the_majority_is_always_wrong/

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 No.6156

halt, melt, catch fire

>>6155

Huh. Seems like that's mostly appeal to lowest common denominator. Easier than making an actually good product and sells better. But because the actually better alternative is there the people with sense use that one.

I think I now grok the intuition of the previous pondering: A heuristic for finding the better of two competing alternatives is to look for signs that one did not optimize for popularity.

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 No.12496

>>6143

Rationalists should win

The map is not the territory

Adaptation-executers, not fitness-maximizers

Shut up and do the impossible!

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File: 90680674dc53ed7⋯.jpg (56.15 KB,768x472,96:59,secret handshakes.jpg)

 No.12469 [Open thread]

Post things you notice in writing or speech that predict someone being rat-adjacent.

>X-adjacent

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 No.12470

>>12469

They're called shibboleths, anon. Also,

>shibboleth

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 No.12472

>Post things you notice in writing or speech that predict someone being rat-adjacent.

>speech

[Lesswronger voice]

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 No.12474

https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/8xQ8hTxo6Rk2qqZfj/shit-rationalists-say

https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/p5jwZE6hTz92sSCcY/son-of-shit-rationalists-say

https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/kNDLkcqLMcLdrQNzG/shit-rationalists-say-2018

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 No.12486

>>6143

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File: e486ef99f352335⋯.png (129.13 KB,458x458,1:1,nc.png)

 No.6949 [Open thread]

In particular, the parts of the “Less Wrong worldview” that are most notorious in the public eye are the parts I have no affinity with whatsoever. I don’t buy the Bayesian / Jaynesian stuff. I don’t think Friendly AI or MIRI are promising at all. I am skeptical of the idea that learning instrumental rationality can give you an “edge” in life (although Superforecasters has made me a bit less so). HPMOR is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me and I am still baffled as to why anyone likes it. Roko’s Basilisk is of course nonsense; it isn’t a major part of actual Less Wrong culture but everyone’s heard of it so it’s relevant here. The mixture of serious philosophy and (often anime-inspired) “wisdom literature” (”Tsuyoku Naritai,” “Something To Protect”) in the Sequences makes no sense to me. Eliezer Yudkowsky in general strikes me as a deeply misguided person who has some laudable ideals but fails to live up to them in his personal conduct as well as much of his writing, and whose aesthetics often repel me (for whatever that’s worth). Etc., etc.

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 No.12458

>>6953

Has he yet? Also, how good is Almost Nowhere compared to The Northern Caves? I still haven't read Almost Nowhere.

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 No.12459

>>6950

>he's not a Kalman-Filterist

>he's not a Solomonoffian

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 No.12461

>>6953

I have bad news about getting people to understand things when their salary depends on not understanding them

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 No.12462

>>6949

what exactly isn't being doubted here. is there anything?

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 No.12464

>>12461

How does his salary depend on underestimating AI?

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File: c643530c218ca6e⋯.jpg (110.83 KB,1607x1080,1607:1080,He-got-a-long-nose.jpg)

 No.11796 [Open thread]

I found something that's creeping me out.

Turns out group selection is real and we have proof now. Nightshades selecting for self-rejection, object level boring bla bla bla https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ioWH9ERY3TTzRJFTD/group-selection-update

It also turns out that the whole thing is obvious (anyone with half a brain knew before we had proof) and compatible with reductionist gene-centric models, that is, the people claiming it wasn't possible were "not even wrong".

Now it gets creepy. There are way too fucking many articles, books, etc. going back a long time about how group selection is a dangerous, misguided, etc. (heretical) mistake. Yudkowsky wrote "The tragedy of group selectionism", Steven Pinker has "The false allure of group selection"…

All of them are on the same side! Replacement of all fun activities (it's all signaling/romanticism anyway) with fun pills, maximum atomization, selfish masturbationism, destroying metis out of spite, etc.

It's obviously not a conspiracy but damn, I didn't expect alien memeplexes to be that capable of brainwashing otherwise intelligent people. Yud is smart enough I'm tempted to believe he's just lying but also passionate enough I could buy him lying to himself.

We have to figure this shit out /ratanon/ so help me here. What stands to lose if people understand individuals / genes are not the only real agents?

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 No.11882

>>11881

Speak for yourself.

t. high IQ antisemite

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 No.11883

>>11882

This board's denizens are all outliers. You might as well take a black rationalist posting about their IQ here as evidence against black IQ being low.

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 No.11884

>>11881

Nah. Natsoc leaders had high IQ. My point is that people need to learn from other successful people.

Everybody can learn something from the Jews. The absurd thing about antisemites is that they simply consider Jewish things immoral and refuse to consider them.

That's really similar to black power and their "fuck YT".

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 No.12424

File: dda89a517855a17⋯.jpg (61.08 KB,850x400,17:8,heideg.jpg)

>>11875

bingo

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 No.12425

File: dda89a517855a17⋯.jpg (61.08 KB,850x400,17:8,heideg.jpg)

>>11875

bingo

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File: bb182040ec0dcfc⋯.jpg (101.91 KB,576x378,32:21,classroom.jpg)

 No.12151 [Open thread]

Reminder that sending your children to a school full of niggers is child abuse.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090704034716/http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html

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 No.12399

>>12391

I would still try to send my kids to a school populated by kids very similar to them, not for expected present value of future earnings, but for their ability to find friends and enjoy their school years. If they turn out like me, that means homeschooling though

>>12395

I had the impression hispanics are about half way between whites and blacks in most regards, with some variation between measures.

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 No.12400

>>12398

They're not mutually exclusive.

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 No.12401

>>12399

Fair enough, but a school that's 40% white and has AP classes still offers opportunities for meeting culturally similar smart kids. Cultural and class background of the local white population is worth considering too of course, not to mention how you feel about the Asian question.

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 No.12402

>>12399

>I had the impression hispanics are about half way between whites and blacks in most regards, with some variation between measures.

That might be based on older data taken from like Puerto Ricans and shit, who are in fact mixed African and European rather than mixed Amerind and European. They do behave differently from Mexicans, though of course many factors other than genetic makeup could be the culprit. Like I hear Salvadorans are also supposed to be pretty buckwild and they're Indio hispanics.

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 No.12404

File: 4a3fdd6f3533024⋯.jpg (769.95 KB,1250x1050,25:21,Mestiso_1770.jpg)

>>12395

>By the way, what's the deal with Mexicans being so… tolerable? If g correlates with everything from crime to educational attainment, it makes sense that nig-nogs are both violent and illiterate. But Hispanics also have lol-worthy IQs, yet they aren't living engines of destruction and in fact can be pretty chill

Amerindians are smarter than niggers to begin with, and most Hispanics are Mestizos (White-Indian hybrids), so they're even smarter than that. Not quite White-tier, but pretty close (unless you are talking about Conquistador-Americans like Jorge Ramos, who are pretty much just White people who speak Spanish).

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 No.11885 [Open thread]

What did he see in this?

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 No.12335

>>11901

It's creatine powder.

Interestingly, that's one of the supplements Scott recommends for depression.

WHY IS OZY SAD?? :(

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 No.12353

To change topic, what does cimarafa look like?

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 No.12358

I've never seen the OP pic bigger than thumbnail-size and I don't intend to change this

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 No.12364

>>12358

sounds like someone's lacking in the Virtues of Curiosity, Relinquishment and Empiricism

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 No.12392

>>12364

profound.

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File: 7229d184e4c4621⋯.jpg (242.89 KB,964x845,964:845,PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN abandons….jpg)

 No.12325 [Open thread]

For those of you who don't keep up with the latest on the r/slatestarcodex subreddit, it looks like there are dark clouds on the horizon. The subreddit, once a shining bastion of effortposting and polite discouse, has become a hive of bitter agendaposting and thinly-veiled contempt for the (((hated outgroup))). Those of a lefty persuasion have largely abandoned the subreddit, and the few that remain are hopelessly outnumbered. Pic related relates the feelings of PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN, chief moderator and driving force behind the subreddit.

If you would like to know more, feel free to check out the following links. I'd have archived them but archive.is doesn't like them. Sorry, gwern, I know I've failed you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/8tpcyn/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_june_25_2018/e1jlxqp/

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/8tpcyn/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_june_25_2018/e1e92vm/

What do you think will happen to the subreddit? Will the Culture War thread be destroyed entirely, or will the poison spread until Scott can no longer bear to associate his name with it? What happens then? Is the absence of left-wing voices merely a symptom of their inability to stand up to facts and logic, or just a sane response to a constant barrage of arguments built on foundations of inchoate hatred? Will poor embattled PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN be forced to mercy-kill his beloved creation?

For posterity and for discussion, this has been an anonymous report on internal rat-adjacent drama.

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 No.12376

>12340

I think "left-wing" needs to be unpacked. While econ leftism is more like a mistake that needs to be addressed, SJ is simply moralistic insanity. (Social) liberalism is just a bastardized variant of Biblical Christianity which is a highly cucked ideology.

The future belongs to sentient beings who combine high IQ, Aryan-Mongol militantism, Jewish trade practices and absolute mercilessness, not fucking cucked, retarded and moralistic people.

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 No.12377

>>12340

I think "left-wing" needs to be unpacked. While econ leftism is more like a mistake that needs to be addressed, SJ is simply moralistic insanity. (Social) liberalism is just a bastardized variant of Biblical Christianity which is a highly cucked ideology.

The future belongs to sentient beings who combine high IQ, Aryan-Mongol militantism, Jewish trade practices and absolute mercilessness, not fucking cucked, retarded and moralistic people.

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 No.12383

>>12377

>high IQ, Aryan-Mongol militantism, Jewish trade practices and absolute mercilessness,

So Han Chinese, then.

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 No.12386

>>12383

A mediocre-to-okay future. I give it a C grade.

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 No.12388

>>12383

Han Chinese fail to be Hajnali and fail to be uncucked. True Ubermenschen should strive to have the best features of everyone.

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File: 0d691a8f47592a3⋯.png (55 KB,250x487,250:487,CJ_eBJhWcAABo9A.png)

 No.11651 [Open thread]

Anyone into this degeneracy?

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 No.12244

>>12243

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 No.12361

>>12244

Just wanted to say that I appreciate this post.

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 No.12363

>>12359

>>12360

>>12361

>>12362

lol, thirsty anon is thirsty.

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 No.12365

>>12361

You're welcome.

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 No.12366

>>12363

You figured me out

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 No.12259 [Open thread]

BIG YUD ON SUICIDE WATCH

Imagine being part of a community that prides itself on intelligence and rational thinking, spending literal decades theorising about an AI doomsday and then having your core beliefs torn to pieces by five tweets from some random dude. How will rationalists ever recover?

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 No.12260

But that's six tweets from a curryess.

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 No.12263

Is this the end?

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 No.12264

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>>12259

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 No.12359

>>12260

Do curry girls really love White guys or do they just love Australians?

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