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 No.14063

Out of pure curiosity, how many of you read fanfiction? Do you consider it real literature, and what's your ratio of fanfiction to published works that you consume?

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 No.14078

>>14063

It's existed since time immemorial, but I don't read any. The only fanfiction that I keep up with is /a/-related, but I'm growing uninterested in it.

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 No.14112

>>14063

I found out a relative has written some fan fic and they are pretty popular from what i can tell. Do I tell/congratulate them?

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 No.14113

>>14063

I'm uninterested in fan fiction nowadays.

I used to like having a laugh at the "best of the worst" pieces like My Immortal, Legolas by laura, etc. and meta-satire of those mediocre fanfics.

Then again, I'm usually uninterested and/or dissappointed in sequels that have been written due to the popularity of the first novel.

However, I understand that fan fiction may be good practice for budding writers, so it's not something that should be discouraged. This does not mean that it should be immune to critique, either.

>>14112

Encourage them to monetize or write their own pieces if they're considered a good writer :)

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 No.14141

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>>14063

>how many of you read fanfiction?

I can't speak for everyone here. I, for one, read none. Well, aside from the beginnings of or really short pieces.

>Do you consider it real literature

Let's not get pretentious here. There's no such thing as "real literature". There's popular literature. There's well-written literature. There's "Oh, fuck, at last, a book that doesn't make me want to hang myself at how appallingly poorly written it is" literature. But, there's no "real" literature. It's all literature. It's just some poseurs love masturbating to the fantasy that women want to hump them and men want to be them because they've read all the real literature and want to poo-poo anything they themselves lack the basic skills to have written.

I'll concede that there is the "classics", but even that is a contentious idea, defined only by what literature "experts" have determined as being "good" from the swamp of historical pop' fiction. I warrant we have LOST more good fiction to scroll-rot and effective censorship by medieval taste than we have retained, yet we have the arrogance to declare this or that as the very best and most erudite history has to offer us? Puh-leeze.

>what's your ratio of fanfiction to published works that you consume?

Well, seeing as my reading of "real" books is shitfully poor for reasons, probably 50-50. Fan fiction's biggest problem is usually that it's written by hacks whose desperate longing to inject themselves into the story (or, more often, the film) they just read and "just, like, SO adore" causes them to have an overinflated sense of their own writing skill. Or, a lack of care-factor. But, it's gotta be said, some fan fiction, while not brilliant or even publisher-worthy, is actually half decent. But don't get me started on that fucking Mr Grey bullshit because I am likely to shove a toothpick in some bitch's eye.

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 No.14149

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 No.14155

>>14063

I've written some fanfic. Here's my magnum opus, written several years ago: fanfiction.net/s/9577610/1/Love-and-Tolerance-in-the-Grim-Darkness

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 No.14161

>>14155

You had me by the third paragraph. The self conscious humorous style is perfect.

Weighing in at four chapters, I think I can accept the challenge. You won't stand in the ring with Hemingway, yet this reader is teetering on being knocked on his ass from laughter induced. I'll write up a review when finished.

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 No.14162

>>14141

>I warrant we have LOST more good fiction to scroll-rot and effective censorship by medieval taste than we have retained

I don't about that. The best stuff usually got copied over and over because of how popular it was and if writings like the Decameron or the popularity of Ovid in the middle ages are anything to go by, medieval people tolerated quite a bit.

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 No.14163

>>14162

>The best works survive

No, they don't huge chunks of Livy's History was lost because there was no interest in it, and it is one of the greatest works on Roman history, perhaps the greatest had the entirety survived.

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 No.14165

>>14163

That's not fiction though. >>14141 was talking about fictional works. From what's referenced contemporary writings, most of the significant works of fiction have survived.

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 No.14230

>>14063

It's a good way to trick yourself into practicing, especially when starting out. Even a fat fuck is going to improve by walking around the block, and the nature of it is especially useful for getting younger people into writing. >>14141 is pretty much hitting the nail on the head with the 'real literature' remark.

The important thing is to point them towards the best ways to improve their craft, especially when they're still able to dedicate time towards it.

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 No.14234

>>14165

>That's not fiction though

Even if that were true, my criticism still applies because we don't know if the best fiction did survive because it's not here anymore; we merely assume that the best works survived, but only one complete tragedy minus its satyr play does survive. A number of tragedies by the three great tragedians have not survived. Hell, Aristophanes consistently got second place, so where are the winning comedies? Sorry for the delay in replying, I got busy and forgot which thread this was being discussed in.

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