No.51231 [View All]
the PPD here has fallen like a brick
i'm pretty sure there's only like ten of us left
how do we boost board activity?
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No.53720
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>>53664
Reporting in.
>Dissecting the Communist Attack
Hail victory!
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No.53722
Alright, as someone who was initially super fucking excited for this board when I found it way back in the great migration in the GG days, here's my two creds.
I fucking love cyberpunk. I love the fiction, I love the aesthetic, I love the philosophy, and I love the music. With the big spike in popularity of cyberpunk media over the last few years, what with major hollywood films, the spread of neo-80s aesthetics, so on and so forth, this place should be fucking thriving.
The big problem with this board is the massive contingent of shazbots who think that you cannot be /cyber/ without being a hacker. It creates a hostile atmosphere to people who are curious about what cyberpunk is, and thus drives them away. Instead of allowing a community to grow organically and trimming the fat as fad-following fucksticks eventually drop the thing for the next big trend, it closes this whole thing off and prevents people from getting into it at all. Instead of going "Oh, shit, I have a lot to learn" they see the attitudes here and go "Oh, fuck this I'll just go watch a movie and let these assholes argue".
You want people interested in futurism? Talk about futurism.
You want people interested in coding? Talk about coding.
You want people interested in transhumanism? Talk about transhumanism.
You want people interested in AI? Talk about AI.
You want people interested in music? Talk about music.
But that isn't what's been happening here. What's been happening is that someone brings up a topic, some script kiddie or S00P3R 1337 H4XX0R bitches that it isn't about coding, anarchism, or hacking. No discussion happens. No learning happens. Post count tanks. Board dies.
SELF. FUCKING. SABOTAGE.
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No.53723
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No.53725
>>53722
This tbh. It's pointless to argue on what we argue. Just argue, and if you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. Just make threads you would like to see (yes, this takes effort, but this board ain't gonna de-derezz itself), and reply sincerely to threads you like. Really, this may come off as stupid, given we are in a fucking imageboard of all places, but put some effort in your posts and everything will be okay.
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No.53760
>>53590
this
and all these images proves no one knows a thing about cyber security; therefore making this board a larp zone
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No.53805
>>53760
<We should disable images on this imageboard
Fucking lol. Thanks for the laugh anon.
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No.53809
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No.53810
>>53722
I'd rather it be dead than filled with /pol/tard newfags, but now we're both.
Elitism isn't the problem. Lack of linking off-site to build the community is the problem. Honestly, I prefer linking to arisuchan just because of how shitty 8chan's community is.
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No.53836
>>53810
>I prefer linking to arisuchan just because of how shitty 8chan's community is.
Hate to say it user but if you can't handle the "community" here maybe you don't belong here :-/
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No.53839
>>53810
>the community doesn't buy into the same commie shit I do
>the community is faulty
yeah that's SJW style reasoning. maybe you should go back to your lefty reddit hugbox?
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No.53939
>>53810
What issue do you have with /pol/, besides the occasional nazi larper that is?
And the nazi larper shit doesn't really count as an issue, because only half the faggots claiming to be ethnonationalists or neonazis are actually serious. most are just trolling and if it bothers you that much you should probably take that steel pole out of your ass, and maybe sanitize it or something.
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No.53942
>>53939
>And the nazi larper shit doesn't really count as an issue, because only half the faggots claiming to be ethnonationalists or neonazis are actually serious
>most are just trolling
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>if it bothers you that much you should probably take that steel pole out of your ass, and maybe sanitize it or something.
Most people would rather just leave the board altogether, and then you get a million threads of "durr, why is /cyber/ dead?"
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No.53950
>>53942
Maybe your should leave since you're so bothered by them. They're never going anywhere. We share the same site you fuck wit.
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No.53951
>>53950
It's tedious all the same.
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No.53964
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No.54078
>>51236
>Fuck lainchan, it's ran by commies
I wish that were true.
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No.54080
>>54078
I wish leftists knew basic grammar before they shit up foreign boards with their presence.
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No.54270
>>51257
>I wish this board would just admit that this is all fiction and stick with making cool fiction
I have a thread dedicated to that.
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No.55176
>>51372
I am at this point now. idk if all the {kiki,jews,nigger} spewing shazzbots believe what they are saying but I pretty much don't care - they are unfixable social imbeciles who derail threads more valuable than the sum of all content they have ever posted, reliably.
I think do not feed the trolls has to be the best policy. You can't win an argument. They are astro-turfing /cyber/ and are looking for an argument.
Just don't reply to anyone espusing non-sense. Let it past. Reply to OP, keep board on topic.
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No.55185
>>55176
That's very good infographic how to do with shills and prevent from derailing threads by them
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No.55200
>>55176
They do have a point though
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No.55201
>>51231
simple, we need good threads and content
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No.55246
The biggest problem this board has is the tryhard cancer that has been festering.
If we want this board to live, we need to welcome people who don't know anything about cyberpunk and get them into it.
For that, we need to start ditching the shit that belongs on /gentoo/ and /pol/. Keep hacker shit to hacker boards. Keep OS elitism to OS boards. Keep tech shit to tech boards. Those are all things that are PART of cyberpunk, not things that are intrinsically cyberpunk.
Quit acting like a bunch of fucking dickheads and shitting on every repost and gay little idea. Enjoy cyberpunk and spread the culture.
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No.55247
>>55246
Please explain clearly what you expect to be posted here then.
/Cyber/ 's biggest problem is that it doesn't exist and that we have to create it. We are not going to create a new subculture out of chaos by random syllables, we have to adopt exiting motifs, ideas, and culture artifacts.
Cyber as an asethic is defined. Cyberpunk as fiction is defined. Cyberpunk universes are defined. What a 'cyperpunk' as a person is , is not well defined. To be in some sense sane, it should probably be associated with the cyberpunk aesthetic, and elements of cyberpunk fiction like hackers, and "high tech".
On a practical day to day, thread level, this means having conversations about tech and OS stuff.
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No.55251
>>55246
The thing is, IRL /cyber/ is very much an intersection of /pol/ and /tech/.
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No.55255
I started to post here so one person more. We can post links to this board on other chans and services like reddit or other shit
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No.55258
>>55251
Can we cut down the /pol/ intersectionalism? You are starting to look like feminists, for fuck's sake.
Classic cyberpunk "heroes" gave not a single shit about politics, because most of them were hired Chaotic Neutrals. Fuck, the stories themselves usually had little to do with politics at all. If anything, classic cyberpunk is either /x/ or /phi/ with /tech/, and if you are inserting /pol/ into the mix to represent state-induced techparanoia, that is:
>a) Not /pol/ because fuckers think they are safe from that using Windows of all things
>b) Realistic and contemporaneous
>c) Common sense
Even /k/ makes much more sense to throw into the mix. The "/pol/ is everything everywhere" meme has to die.
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No.55259
>>55251
Fuck Off. Not a single cyberpunk writer espoused anything like /pol/ ever. Every single cyberpunk writer had beliefs that are 100% an anathema to /pol/.
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No.55260
>>55258
>muh horseshoe feminist nazi intersectionalism
None to be found here, sorry to disappoint.
Totalitarian governments and corporations using advanced communications and computer technologies like the Internet, VR, and cyberspace to subdue or otherwise coerce the population is both inherently /cyber/ and /pol/. Likewise, those same technologies being used to subvert said attempts at population control or corporate tyranny for any reasons even personal ones also qualify. Whether or not it is done for monetary or political/corporate motivations is completely irrelevant. Not all cyberpunk has to be nihilistic in nature, though a large amount certainly is.
The subject matter of those other boards certainly have a lot to do with /cyber/ as well, just forgot to mention them- as those subjects also get a lot of discussion in the realm of politics, mainstream or fringe. I suppose it would have been a good idea to include them in that post to cut down on the hysterical reactions from specific individuals.
>>55259
Jesus you're unhinged. Do I have to specifically and vehemently disavow every ideology you hate for retards like you not to sperg so hard?
Anyway, claiming an entire genre of literature is the sole domain of a specific social or political class/group is quite the bullshit argument. A neo-nazi is just as capable of writing a cyberpunk story as any lolbert or neo-commie is, though I myself align more with the /liberty/ crowd.
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No.55261
>>55260
>Totalitarian governments and corporations using advanced communications and computer technologies like the Internet, VR, and cyberspace to subdue or otherwise coerce the population is both inherently /cyber/ and /pol/
One intresting feature of Cyber Punk Dystopia is that government is frequently absent or irrelevant. Power has been subsumed not by governments, but by corporations. A cyberpunk dystopia could occur with a totalitarian state, however embracing the politics of that dystopia is not cyberpunk - from a cyberpunk fiction perspective the machinations of the dystopia are irrelevant, they are only scenery for the characters. So, if you are trying to say, metacommentary on the dystopia /pol/ seeks to bring in is cyberpunk it is. If you are trying to say embracing the politics of /pol/ is cyberpunk, thats retarded and not a convincing argument.
>Jesus you're unhinged. Do I have to specifically and vehemently disavow every ideology you hate for retards like you not to sperg so hard?
This board has a huge problem with shazzbots shilling /pol/ and disrupting every single thread. Specifically /pol/ . I think that metacommentary on /pol/ , there methods, and the role they play in society is on topic and cyber. I think saying "/pol/ is /cyber/ " is misleading at best, and shilling at worst. Embracing the politics and espousing /pol/ doctrine is not /cyber/. Metacommentary is.
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No.55281
>>55246
so make the board even more of an autistic LARP than it already is? good idea.
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No.55282
>>55281
There is nothing left after removing everything he suggested.
/Cyber/ is 水-asthetics , self-reliance, individualism,and most importantly high technology including hacking. On a day to day, thread level basis, that is going to mean discussions about niche technology stuff : Analog Radio Design, or Discussions about Computer Architecture, or Desktop Alternatives.
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No.55283
>>55282
I'm amazed how cyber-anarchism is never mentioned on this board. Without a theory of economics and lifestyle ideals you will get nowhere. But instead of just heedy futurists most of you are, why not dive into your true will of it all means? Gibson makes it clear in " distrust that particular flavor" he doesn't any overarching values, just a lot of observations that leans to unanswerable questions.
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No.55284
>>55283
I don't think its realistic to start an anarchist community here. I personally don't think politics are all that /cyber/. Cyber seems to depict individuals struggling against a corrupt dystopia with a hyper individualist nihilism. Case doesn't care about the effects of unleashing unbound AI on the net, he just wants to run. I don't think cyber has to agree on some coherent political narrative to discuss what a cyber-lifestyle might look like. I think some kind of pluralism is probably best. Talk about your cyber-anarchism, just don't shill it, or derail everythread about it.
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No.55285
>>55284
I have no idea what it is I am talking about, the post.
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No.55286
>>55285
brool story co. Cyberpunk is a genre of science fiction. There is no established cyberpunk lifestyle. The board is a random amalgamation of technology, conspiracy theory, aesthetic, and lists of books/movies/comics.
whatever the fuck fringe ideology you want to buy into called "cyber-anarchism" has no established street movement or history, and barley plays a role online much less in actual politics.
Your condescendtion about needing to root "lifestyle" in "cyber-ararchism" in order not to be "heedy futurists" is not only pattent bullshit, its not even coneccted to the culture of this board. We say shazzbot here, shazzbot. Most people do not root "lifestyle" decisions in any kind "theory of economics" or politics.
The users of these boards will never agree on a coherent "theory of economics" nor is trying to agree on one inherently /cyber/ in anyway - this is not a forum for the discussion of political-economy.
Make a cyber-anarchism thread, discuss your ideas or w/e you want. but, fuckoff thinking you know anymore about an unestablished and ill defined "cyberpunk lifestyle" than anyone else, or that we must root decisions about what wallpaper we use, what asthetic we consume, what music we listen to, what skills we learn, or anything else in your "theory of economics"
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No.55287
>>55286
>There is no established cyberpunk lifestyle.
high tech, low life. you got the low life part down.
> whatever the fuck fringe ideology you want to buy into called "cyber-anarchism" has no established street movement or history, and barley plays a role online much less in actual politics.
top fucking zuz
>most people do not root "lifestyle" decisions in any kind "theory of economics" or politics.
you clearly live in moms basement.
>we must root decisions about what wallpaper we use, what asthetic we consume, what music we listen to, what skills we learn, or anything else
top zuz. take your adderall.
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No.55293
>>55283
>cyber-anarchism
I assume most of the board is like that
>>55287
Nice formatting newfag, also what the fuck is zuz?
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No.55356
>>55283
>cyber-anarchism
<AKA another gay leftist movement that is absolutely no different from any other NPC breeding ground tries hard to LARP as another fiction genre.
You have to go back
>Without a theory of economics and lifestyle ideals you will get nowhere
Then get somewhere by taking yourself out, newnigger.
>>55287
>reddit spacing
>zuz
>>>/gaschamber/
>high tech, low life
"Gay shazbot, kill yourself" should be the default response to anyone who posts this crap.
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No.55357
>>55293
Kek wordfilters into zuz. Zuz was used early on in full/v/ as a kék replacement after they discovered Life is Strange appropriated kék in some of the dialogues.
>>55356
>political shit-stirrer thinks he can disrespect the zuz
Begone, fifth exoduser.
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No.55359
>>55357
>reddit-spacing nigger tries to look like an oldfag
>>>/reddit/ and stay there
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No.57432
>>51344
This is actually insiteful..
However, this exact same world has emerged for mobile. Perhaps rooting your phone is the most /cyber/ thing you can do. But then, the act of installing Linux has to be something of a cyberpunk momement too: The machines come with a priopetary, serveilance enabled OS - Win7 Starter wouldn't let you change your background. Stephenson described a live linux CD as like a virus taking over the computer in his essay "In the Begining there was the command line". There is something inheritantly punk/subversive about choosing linux.
>>51231
Well, its actually now or never. Board is basically dead but functional. We probably need an infusion from lainchain, or arisu exiles. /Cyber/ boards are dying. Post shazzbots.
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No.57451
>>57432
>There is something inheritantly punk/subversive about choosing linux.
I don't disagree but it feels lame as fuck
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No.57458
>>57451
>>57451
>>>57432
>>There is something inheritantly punk/subversive about choosing linux.
>I don't disagree but it feels lame as fuck
Why? I kind agree. Its just not alt enough to be punk. OpenBSD is 水 though. Real Niggas use TempleOS
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No.57459
>>57458
Because it's too easy i guess and most distros market themselves as friendly as they can
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No.57467
>this thread
God, I hate niggers and jews so much.
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No.57470
>>57458
>Real Niggas use TempleOS
This
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No.58208
>>55246
Indeed. I am an eternal baka.
>find nu-8chan
>boards like are gone
>try cyber
>hmm sticky
>load up tor
>neither chat rooms working
>>can't connect? see bullshit link!
>control f to see if thread talks of problem
>doesn't
>find this thread in catalog
>post bitching
>leave board and site to hang out on halfchan for the soul purpose of venting venom and nothing else as imageboards have nothing else to offer unless you want to remain lonely for months at a time
*shrugs*
>>51232
Abhorrent moderation loves to censor far too often. This is why people go back to half.
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No.58209
>>51247
>confusing 4chan with reddit
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No.58212
>>58209
>replying to posts from 2.5 years ago
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