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64a838 No.854713

Change my mind: The United States of America is a wicked country.

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59cda0 No.854716

>>854713

It used to be a God-fearing nation. But now… she has kicked her Savior out of her government, her churches, her schools, her court rooms, and out of her cities. Her pastors have grown fat while the flock is starving.

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord. - Jeremiah 23:1

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be1832 No.854717

>>854713

>The United States of America is a wicked country.

You not wrong. Expect america is far worse than a wicked country.

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7926e1 No.854720

File: b7dda04dbf5ef7d⋯.jpg (93.15 KB,900x600,3:2,0316_pew_religion_1.jpg)

>>854713

All people are wretches but comparatively the people of the US are uniquely observant and Christian among our peers. The zionist occupied government is antichrist.

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7a8c81 No.854725

File: dc4a9df05143357⋯.jpg (91.19 KB,514x636,257:318,ZB6LF7M.jpg)

America in the 21st century is indeed quite wicked… A studying of U.S. history from a Catholic perspective has given me a respect for what America used to be, which I lacked before. I still believe Christendom was much Godlier than America could ever hope to be, but there was a period in time where Catholics were trying to improve America for the better (still are) and actually making headway at it up until the 1930s or so, when horrid idealogies like Planned Parenthood's population control programs, feminism duping women into "liberating" themselves (e.g. the Lucky Strike cigarette company targeting women with pro-feminist advertising; women fall for it and get addicted, Lucky Strikes doubles their profit from the new demographic), Israel worship, and more ultimately won out with the Protestant-majority American public. We could have had a pious culture, but instead we decided against it in favor of hedonism, and that is a great shame. People are without direction and purpose, because they know not of the Church and her truths.

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5b0896 No.854729

File: 059eb972bfc6ecf⋯.png (3.01 MB,1920x1080,16:9,helios.png)

It never was a Christian country, even from the very beginning. America was founded by freemasons. They constantly erect monuments that are meant to blaspheme God. for instance, whatever exoteric explanation they have for the statue of liberty, esoterically, it is clearly meant to be a female version of the Greek sun god Helios. Obviously the Washington monument is an Egyptian obelisk. The all seeing eye on the one dollar bill derives from the Egyptian eye of Horus. Obviously this isn't to say the people created these symbols believe in Helios, Osiris and Horus. The symbolism is just meant to be a giant middle finger to God, they are saying we do not worship you. Modern day idolatry.

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7926e1 No.854733

File: c4d0e36c22ffec1⋯.png (1.91 MB,1417x2695,1417:2695,croppedImage_1617570550394.png)

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be1832 No.854743

>>854729

>It never was a Christian country, even from the very beginning. America was founded by freemasons

This. America the most god hating nation on earth for a reason.

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bbf1e7 No.854745

File: bd01de41721f10e⋯.jpg (1.5 MB,2400x1800,4:3,19349735848_cc23b28a89_o1.jpg)

Since sometime around the 1630-1680 time period, the U.S. has been the location with the most baptists. The settlement of Newport in Rhode Island was founded on the following basis:

>"The 7th day of the first month, 1638. We whose names are underwritten do here solemnly in the presence of Jehovah incorporate ourselves into a Bodie Politick and as he shall help, will submit our persons, lives and estates unto our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and to all those perfect and most absolute laws of his given us in his holy word of truth, to be guided and judged thereby."

The charter on which the colony was later permanently founded was the charter of 1663 procured by John Clarke. The original petition to King Charles II for that charter, which is now inscribed in part on the Capitol building in Providence:

>That they might be permitted to hold forth a lively experiment that a most flourishing civil state may stand, and best be maintained, with a full liberty in religious concernments; and that true piety, rightly grounded upon gospel principles, will give the best and greatest security to sovereignty, and will lay in the hearts of men the strongest obligation to true loyalty.

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8694b8 No.854758

Why should I do that OP?

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077cec No.854908

File: 119476ca85ba75c⋯.jpg (98.07 KB,396x382,198:191,1519564020.jpg)

>>854733

>a Christian nation is a nation where all evil is welcome the people who hate God are allowed to hold office and define law

Modernist """""""Christianity"""""""" at its finest.

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879bf8 No.854914

>>854908

Who are you quoting?

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5406eb No.854916

Yes, The United States of America is a wicked country. Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven

: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Malachi 3

6 “For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed. 7 From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from my statutes and have not kept them.

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aeb14c No.854923

>>854729

>>854743

Anglo freemasonry is generally conservative, its mostly continental european freemasonry that was and is a vehicle for the enlightenment principles, indeed there is a schism between them for that reason

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7f7576 No.854926

File: aef9cde70de4889⋯.png (221.28 KB,664x967,664:967,kabbalat.PNG)

File: 9d6a022ee55064d⋯.png (97.16 KB,687x414,229:138,court_system.PNG)

>>854923

Freemason was one unit of a bigger cultural group. The group has been trying to become the "one world religion" through progressivism/communism, climate change narratives or other means today. This group has one main aspect in common: they all took Talmud and Kabbalah as their core doctrine. Other groups included the zionists (e.g. Moses Hess), and the "humanists," and people who taught neoplatonism, such as Gemistus Pletho, Marsilio Ficino, and Giovanni Pico de Mirandolla.

This stuff seems to have influenced the philosophy of the state church, starting around the 1460s time period with the establishment of the "Florentine academy," which is traditionally described as a driver for the so-called Renaissance. Although it existed since at least the time of Ramon Llully's writings and the writing of the Zohar around 1291. It contains gnostic influences (e.g. dualism). It is of course very anti-Christian.

Acts 4:12

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

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aa55a1 No.854927

File: b84f221c5954d45⋯.jpg (442.08 KB,1196x1516,299:379,1.jpg)

>>854923

Pope Pius IX (1873), "Etsi Multa", Par. 30

>Since these things are so, venerable brothers, apply all your effort to protect the faithful committed to your care against the snares and contagion of these sects. Bring back those who have unhappily joined these sects. Expose especially the error of those who have been deceived or those who assert now that only social utility, progress, and the exercise of mutual benefits are the intention of these dark associations. Explain to them often and fix deeper in their minds the pontifical decrees on this matter. Teach them that these decrees refer not only to Masonic groups in Europe, but also those in America and in other regions of the world.

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ca9e7f No.854929

>>854713

let the nation that is not wicked cast the first nuke

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aeb14c No.854941

>>854927

>>854927

Yes, the church does have authority to barr catholics from joining masonic lodges but its ultimately based upon paranoia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax

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aa55a1 No.854957

>>854941

Assuming that the Taxil Hoax is a hoax (I don't know much about it, so I dan't say for sure), the Catholic Church didn't condemn masonry on the basis of Taxil. They condemned it on the basis that it promotes indifferentism, and that it serves as a hotbed for anti-Catholic movements.

Besides, the Pius IX quote I posted is from the 1870s. According to your Wiki article, the Taxil Hoax began in the 1890s. How can the Catholic Church have based their criticism of Masonry based on a hoax that didn't even exist yet?

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7ef7a0 No.855151

>>854914

the retarded graphic in >>854733

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9d716d No.855154

>>855151

But it doesn't say that

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4ebffc No.855313

>>855154

Yes it does.

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9d716d No.855316

>>855313

You're confused or illiterate

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ff9e1c No.855319

>>855316

Fine then. I will spoon feed it to you. The very first paragraph in that graphic goes like this:

>Contrary to what critics imply, a Christian nation is not one in which all citizens are Christians

This statement implies that there are some legal citizens of this hypothetical Christian nation that are not Christians. If one is not a Christian, one does not worship the Holy Almighty God. If one does not worship the Holy Almighty God, one worships a false god.

>or the laws require everyone to adhere to Christian theology

Which means that it is permissible in this hypothetical Christian nation NOT to adhere to Christian theology. And if one does not adhere to Christian theology, one adheres to faulty, immoral, non-Christian theology.

>or all leaders are Christians

Which means that in this hypothetical Christian nation not only is is allowable to worship false gods and partake in immoral practices but also it is allowable for the people who worship gods and partake in immoral practices to hold political power and define laws that will be immoral and heed to the commands of false gods.

Anybody who believes this is an atheist and a charlatan because this hypothetical "Christian nation" closer resembles the fallen kingdom of Israel which God cursed and destroyed because they no longer worshipped Him or heeded His Holy Commandments. If you believe that this is a Christian nation, then you believe that God wants us to view Him not as our King, our infinitely wise Father and creator Who has devised for us in His infinite wisdom a perfect moral code which should be followed, as he should be viewed but merely as an imaginary friend and the worship of Him as merely a hobby or an optional activity. For you see, a kingdom has a king and when said king makes a decree that decree is enforced all throughout the king's kingdom and it is not optional for said decree to be followed it is mandatory and those who do not follow the kings decree are punished accordingly. God does not rule over a divine democracy as our divine president, He rules over a Divine Kingdom as our Divine King and a King's word is law. However a king does not enforce the law himself, rather it is the kings servants that enforce his law and so if we are to be the faithful servants of Our Divine King we must not only follow His law but enforce His law because His law is the ultimate good and everything that contradicts His law is evil and evil must be destroyed wherever it may be.

Therefore everything in the graphic posted here >>854733 is retarded and gay.

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9d716d No.855320

>>855319

Have you read city of God?

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8694b8 No.855322

File: a9b3e0f528506a8⋯.jpg (97.59 KB,1286x1085,1286:1085,popery_in_power.jpg)

>>854927

>Pope Pius IX

Stopped there

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ff9e1c No.855332

>>855322

wtwtp I love papism now

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3e5aae No.855346

>>855322

>>854923

>anglo masonry ain't that bad

>helped divide the spanish empire

>spread false propaganda aka the black l egend against it and it's descendents bearing false witness.

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8b074f No.855360

>>854713

Zoomer here, porn and the internet has turned kids my age into sex crazed freaks who are addicted to porn and hate god. Everyone here is wicked and sinners.

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8694b8 No.855361

>>855346

>>helped divide the spanish empire

Good

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c21458 No.855385

The Mayflower Landed and Planted 400 years ago

in November 1620 - Its Americas 400th Year

Like Israels 400 years in Egypt.

Shes not just dying, or being judged, shes being

Glorified.

400 years like 40 weeks in the womb

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c21458 No.855386

>>855385

Blessed is the Nation whose Lord is God

of whom they will say open ye the gates

so that the righteous nation which carries

the Truth may enter in

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8fea64 No.855390

>>855385

>Like Israels 400 years in Egypt.

Actually, anon, it was 430 years according to Exodus 12:40.

>40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.

>41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.

The 400 years (Genesis 15:13) deals with the portion of the time when they were oppressed by the Egyptians. The first 30 years under Joseph wasn't as bad. But the total time was 430 years. It also says this was the total time in Galatians 3:17 as well.

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9b6936 No.855399

test

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65b580 No.855422

>>854729

>America was founded by freemasons

But aren't freemasons believe in the same god as Christians?

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65b580 No.855423

>>854926

>Freemason was one unit of a bigger cultural group. The group has been trying to become the "one world religion"

Same as Christianity.

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ca9e7f No.855426

>>855423

>>855422

Freemasons require a belief in a god, but not the christian God in particular. They have Muslim, Jewish, and even Hindu lodges. Where they contradict with Christian teaching is hard to say for obvious reasons.

I can't find the video anymore for some reason, but it was a 40 min vid of a mason going through a basic alchemy ritual explaining some of their symbolism. The way I took it is that they do take magic seriously and at least that one mason was claiming to practice it. Christians (if they believe in magic) condemn it because you are not using God's power but the devil's and he will deceive you. When I was researching this stuff a few years ago what I think what happens is the demons pretend to be loyal to you so that you remain loyal to them. There is no forgiveness for demons. Their goal isn't to defeat God, they know that's impossible, their goal is to drag as many people with them into hell.

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4508be No.855978

>>854713

yeah you're right mostly because of all the Christians here

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225606 No.855986

File: 8db8b56d86b8623⋯.jpeg (76.28 KB,369x500,369:500,8B97C869_F539_4217_94E7_6….jpeg)

>>854713

The People of the United States, and it’s government, can be wicked and even evil. However like Lot and Abraham, like David and like Samuel, there are Christians living in America just like there were Israelites that believed in God. Samuel thought he was all alone and God answered and said there are thousands of believers, Samuel, don’t be discouraged, and we’re going to make a comeback and defeat them. Same thing with Jesus Christ coming back. The enemy Satan and the Devil is far worse than the Christians. They purposely took advantage of children Christians, and our things of God and say look I will murder you without telling you I am going to murder you. Isn’t it fun? So God is going to destroy you without telling you He is going to destroy you.

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c90e35 No.856035

>>854713

I can't. America has been poisoned by jewishness and communism for decades. It's just a disgusting country now.

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e014e5 No.856074

>>855978

Christians are the only reason your stupid country hasn't gone up in flames yet.

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a85218 No.856100

Israel is not a legitimate state

Judaism is not a legitimate religion

Jews are not a legitimate people

Every single Jew who follows Judaism will burn in Hell.

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e9f871 No.856191

But you're right, anon.

Matthew 6:24

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6da589 No.856193

Man is imperfect. Let god wait for the scales to still

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6da589 No.856194

File: 7fe7d94f5c81e64⋯.png (579.31 KB,750x1334,375:667,5797F93E_13F7_45C0_94F8_6B….png)

Also, I sneed atchoo

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78d0a3 No.856197

>>854713

All nations are, but at least the US has freedom, and many states and cities still have traditional values

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