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7c4ead No.856723 [Open thread]

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4d8a1a No.856721 [Open thread]

Hi christians it seems a man Lil Nas X is pregnant not woman

is this real or fake?….

Lil Nas X use some satanic videos in his album

link video:

https://youtu.be/vsV-wpqNP6U?t=34

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c8c333 No.856722

>>856721

With all due respect, who cares?

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815b33 No.856445 [Open thread]

They use occult symbolism in video games the one eyes illuminati etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jz0agNnHcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFd6ruWXXG4

if you play video games you should stop playing their games they brainwashed you they manipulate you

Violent video games are bad that promote guns,sex and bad language

also is a sin

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4d1812 No.856542

>>856445

>>856530

>>856531

>2021

>still taking masonic/luciferian symbolism seriously

the fact that you believe this has any power over us is heresy, repent now and find the Lord. the power of Christ compels you.

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20b352 No.856585

>>856530

Sex is not inherently bad

There is magic in the Lord of the Rings and the Chronicles of Narnia also

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4c5142 No.856598

Oh no! Not geometric symbols! My faith is shattered now!

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3d2f38 No.856602

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>>856598

I have heard that it's not possible to caste as spell on Christians, but i don't know how true that is. I've also heard that they can get around on casting spells on people who they can't caste spells on. I don't know much about magick, but it can't be as dangerous or as harmless as most Christians say it is.

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ba0ca8 No.856719

>>856523

>>856530

>>856531

>>856532

>>856542

>>856585

>>856602

World of warcraft they use real occult symbolism the creator of the game the blizzard are freemasons satanic church they are a big group

the Naruto anime series same problem

the old anime Yu-ghi-oh use same occult symbolism image in card games you can find in every games and movies identic

but is a shame that people ignore this.. if you show them the true they call you conspiracy tin foil hat

what about 1$ dollar symbolism the eye illuminati ?still conspiracy?

i know there are some fake christians lukewarm or fake people who come here to talk trash or some of them are shills infiltrate who protect those evil people

--Galatians 5:19-21 KJV-----

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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f218b3 No.856718 [Open thread]

Hi

Psalm 89:[34]! ←- I will not violate my covenant

or alter what my lips have uttered.

How do you fulfill a contract ,or law ,you do them .

Heaven and earth hasn't pass away.Why do you think the law as been done

away? Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven

: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

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c2801e No.856716 [Open thread]

I was thinking about some of the classic 4chan collab projects recently, as well as the virtual choir videos that were popular during the start of the pandemic. I think that it'd be fun to try something similar for /christian/.

Let's first try this with Doxology (Praise God from whom all blessings flow), since it's a short hymn that's familiar to most Christian traditions.

Instructions:

1. In one tab or on a separate device, open this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMZprhxZw4 [Embed]

2. In another tab, open Vocaroo.

3. While listening to the arrangement in the YouTube video (preferably through headphones), begin recording yourself singing along to the track. This way, all participants will be singing at the same tempo and in the same key.

4. Share your Vocaroo link in this thread.

5. If we get enough entries, I'll edit the tracks together and post it in a new thread.

Additional:

Don't worry if you aren't a confident singer. If you can patch pitch and tempo, you'll do fine.

If you know the song in another language, feel free to sing it in that tongue (as long you match the beat).

I look forward to hearing your entries. One of mine will also be posted below, but I won't say which one.

Let's see how this experiment pans out.

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e23966 No.856642 [Open thread]

I recently heard about the theories about Jesus Christ never having existed in the first place. About how there's no evidence or documentation besides the christian media. I know this is partly an anti christian movement, but how do you factually prove the opposite? I'm scared and this puts my faith hanging on a higher cliff than before

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79c3af No.856662

>>856661

FBI honeypot, don't click

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9a8ad8 No.856677

"About how there's no evidence or documentation besides the christian media."

Not true. there is as much evidence of Jesus existence than any other notable figure of the era. Respected historians (like josephus) have reported on Jesus, there are communications between leaders of that time discussing Jesus, etc.

Denying the existence of Jesus is just a con by those that hate christianity. Jews, for instance, will be quick to claim that Jesus never existed even though their own religious texts (the talmud) speak of him.

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334e61 No.856707

>>856642

No worries, I have been studying this period of time surrounding Jesus and up until roughly the time where some one who knew someone starts getting long.

It was a big help. Early church fathers made attempts to document as much as they could vet because the idea of a risen Lord was big news.

My personal opinion is that Isaiah set a fire and a plan that Jesus carried out, whether or not it was a divine plan and resurrection is where your faith comes in, and all the benefits and challenges that being a believer entail. It is a challenge I am not very good at doing since I am very logically oriented and only want the truth.

So, that leaves me with John, Thomas, Peter, and Mark (Peter's translator and companion). Peter's relationship to Saul is one area of study worth looking into, as well as Polycarp being a hearer of John, and what that means. It has been a wonderful mystery I can not solve but keep trying anyways. We do owe our Western Civilization to this plan carried out long ago. It was the best path forward for humanity getting out of the barbarian and tribal times.

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d5cf04 No.856713

If the historical proof for Jesus doenst do then you'd have to erase 99% of history from the books.

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afd70d No.856714

>>856642

>About how there's no evidence or documentation besides the christian media.

First of all, that's not true: http://paxexsistovos.blogspot.com/2012/01/tacitus-suetonius-pliny-younger.html

Second of all, even if that was true, it would still prove that there was a man called Jesus

who lived in the first century and was part of a religious movement.

>B-b-but, it would be biased!

Every piece of literature is biased, and what we're talking about is the existence of someone in history, not implications of their deeds or character. This is why Jesus mythists aren't taken seriously by those who do history.

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3ef9f7 No.856708 [Open thread]

Recently I've been thinking of futuristic medicine , such as uploading a mind into a computer, DNA modification,or cloning a body and transferring your electromagnetic pulses into it.

So I ask ,would having one of these procedures or promote them is acting against the will of God , because be preventing them to die I also prevent them to reconcile with Jesus in heaven, I also violated the rule of the 120 years.

But at the same time it would prevent diseases such as Alzheimer or cancer, while at the same time improving general health issues.

So I'm completely clueless if achieving immortality or great medicine is acting against God, and if so wouldn't our current attempts with vaccines , scanners, treatments and more just make us go away from God and his son for more years than it should be?

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5f65da No.856709

>>856708

The kingdom of God is present in the heart and soul of every believer, rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

Live 10 years or 1000, what would change? Uploading a mind is impossible, for a mind is a working conscious utilizing all senses and memory. It is the energy moving between functioning synapses with purpose of intent.

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1e9421 No.856710

>>856709

Interesting take,however I disagree with your statement of uploading a mind,if you think of it a computer is just that ,a functioning synapses with purpose of intent,where the mind differs is that it controls itself and some interference of God,it will have peripherals for sense so you aren't a vegetable.

And y the "10 years or 1000" do you mean immortality ,and then would the 120 rule be a metaphor we don't understand?

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8b915e No.856711

Medicine is not against God, i remember reading an OT verse telling us to both go to the doctor and pray.

As to uploading minds - we cant upload our souls, so if a mind could be uploaded only our recurrent thought patterns would be there but not the free will. As if you took a photo and thus said that you are now immortal because your image is now eternal. Uploading minds is like a photo of thoughts.

Also it happens already, but instead of being uploaded to computers its uploaded to other brains. Aristotle had an idea, his thought spreads around to this day, is he alive because his thoughts are? no.

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2c8f5e No.856703 [Open thread]

So my father just dropped this on my lap and I don't really know what I should do about it. I already said I would rather not make a trip to DC, but now it could be in a situation where I am not just having my own crisis of faith, but also potentially bringing doubt to my own earthly father. This isn't a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but for our relationship it could really hurt.

I don't want to just go through the motions of going to an event for the sake of appeasing my earthly father, as the right actions with the wrong intentions can be a negative impact on our own faith.

So any feedback would be appreciated random internet people.

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871bcb No.856705

>>856703

There is a museum of the Bible in DC I believe, so if you do decide to honor your father's wishes you should go to the museum and report back.

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57ddbe No.856309 [Open thread]

Perhaps one of the most overlooked aspects of the Exodus is the route itself. The route of the Exodus can tell us a lot about the context and timing of the exodus. In this video we explore the place names found in the exodus itinerary from Piramesses to the Yam Suf, "Sea of Reeds."

In October I will be hosting a tour of Egypt with Tutku Tours. For more information about this tour in Egypt, please visit Tutku Tours (https://www.tutkutours.com/00_EGYPT_TOURS.asp).

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0ecaeb No.856704

>>856309

Is this where the Tribe of Benjamin messed things up?

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bf5c5c No.856698 [Open thread]

What is the difference between the soul, the spirit? And how do those two differentiate between the body? Also is there any Christian documentation or literature on this topic?

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b451bf No.856700

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I just want my body, soul, and spirit to be glorious, with God’s glorious body, spirit and soul. I am willing to do whatever Jesus Christ wants me to to give me a good life, a good glory, and these things in eternity with God.

I am not good at anything on my own. I am not an expert, I don’t want anything to do with spiritual existence only. I want Jesus’ life, for me, and nothing else.

All I know is that when we have all three with God, nothing can stop us from life.

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86647d No.856701

The soul animates the body, even animals have them, but they are not spiritual.

The spirit is a quality of the soul in which grace abides.

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82d8d4 No.856690 [Open thread]

Why don't they dig up the pig remains in Galilee. Surly there's some evidence of hundreds or thousands of pigs drowning in a lake all at once. I understand Galilee is a big lake, but I've never even heard of an attempt. It's the only miracle Jesus performed which you could ever find physical evidence for today. The pigs would be all on top of each other near the shore line pushing the bottom pigs down into the soil, alive. Which is exactly how you get underwater fossilisation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3368652/Is-Jesus-performed-Miracle-Swine-1-600-year-old-Hebrew-slab-points-site-Kursi-Christ-exorcised-man-possessed-demons.html

This is as much as I've seen. And it is in the right region of the lake "Gerasenes" where the new testament says it happened. And it talks about how there's a cave and mountain in the area which are also in the bible. Unfortunately of course we know the shore line as with any lake has changed drastically. They dig up buildings under the water.

All I want is a "we looked… we dug, but didn't find anything." But I'm not even seeing that, it's like the idea isn't even crossing the mind. Suck up the entire lake, I don't care about the fish or the fisherman, give me a team of 20 good men and we'll dig up the entire bottom.

I might be just possessed by the idea, but I feel like this would be the most important thing anyone in history could dig up. So I'm surprised it's not a bigger manhunt. Something to think about if you're ever in the Galilee area. I mentioned this on /his/ but I didn't get any reason as to why it wouldn't be possible to find them.

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82d8d4 No.856693

>>856692

Yeah, there might never be anything really solid to prove Jesus' story enough to make it plainly evident.

Everything is slightly out of reach like Josephus' writings. And it does feel intentionally designed to be that way. Because like Ghandi said, the five senses often are misleading and so God must prove his existence in a way stronger than the five senses can prove use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SakitCoNYc

I want to help people accept Jesus by providing evidence but I'm not sure how often when I correct someone's historical knowledge if it ever helps. And it's hard to get people to just audio book listen to one Gospel which is I think the best way.

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9977e0 No.856694

If remains of 2000 year old pigs were still around the earth would be filled with carcasses.

Bodies need special conditions to be preserved for a long time.

Most bodies turn to dust in time.

In humid conditions, bones might break down in a matter of a decade or so.

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82d8d4 No.856695

>>856694

I explain in the post how underwater preservation happens for land animals like with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbcMY6ADdi8

Something needs to be buried alive under the sea bed. But the more I think about it it's unlikely for the pigs to have pushed some of the others into the soil, they would have floated along the water all across the lake and then the bones would sink to the bottom.

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f20f06 No.856697

Ok so there are two main points to why this search would be ultimately fruitless.

Firstly, yes you have described the basics of the process for fossilization, but you're assuming that all the pigs were drowned and covered entirely under stilt and sediment very quickly. Most likely the pigs would have settled at the bottom of the lake for a short time before aquatic creatures began devouring and scattering their remains, not to mention any possible currents or undertows in the lake itself.

And secondly, this would honestly be one of the weaker pieces of evidence to support Creationism. Most people would either glance over the reportings of it, or simply say "Oh look, they happened to find a binch of pigs in this place, that could be anything." Those who don't want to believe will find any excuse not to. We've already found that genetic material can't be added to via natural processes, we've found carbon-14 in "billion-year-old" diamond, and we've found more fossils than should ever be possible without a global flood.

Proving the existence of God and the truth of The Bible isn't the issue, you can know all these things without truly accepting and believing them. Only God can open the eyes of the soul and save the unbeliever.

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c33b3a No.856706

>>856697

>you're assuming that all the pigs were drowned and covered entirely under stilt and sediment very quickly

No I wasn't. But now I'm on to something very suspicious Google Maps is doing with Noah's Ark.

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9aeabf No.856641 [Open thread]

Srkcycles

Talks about the Bible and review motorcycles. Simple as.

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9dd545 No.856686

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Ancient Egypt and the Bible with Dr. Falk

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bc0355 No.818959 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Can anons please point out the greatest reasons why Islam is illogical to believe, as well as great resources whether they be videos or books. I’d prefer from Cathodox or secular sources

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f74d74 No.851648

>>851332

>. Prophets and God and Sharia (law) that's what I believe

So you believe having your way with children and some degeneracy is A okay along with a man that sinned and was obviously wicked like no other contradicting what came before and their supposed god was fine with it?

I mean nothing about beastiality or gayness in other sources other than he is fine with sin and momo is infallible?

Mate your religion (which does have allah being accuser most of the time) sounds like it came more from satan.

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1e10d3 No.856025

Bump for visibility

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2594c3 No.856056

>>818959

Threads like this actually stir up discord.

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5f56d8 No.856685

Muslims attempt to say that Baca from Psalm 84:6 is referring to Mecca, however, when you look into where Baca is it's no where near there.

>the village called Xaloth, which lies in the great plain, as far as Bersabe, from which beginning also is taken the breadth of the Upper Galilee, as far as the village Baca, which divides the land of the Tyrians from it; its length is also from Meloth to Thella, a village near to Jordan.

https://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/war-3.htm

It's in northern Israel, not in Arabia!

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87f5b3 No.856699

>>856685

LOL you are right the valley of baca is now known as valley of hinnom btw.

https://bibleatlas.org/valley_of_hinnom.htm

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436e1f No.856593 [Open thread]

do you think racial psegregation is outside of god law?

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844509 No.856599

I don't think so. We shouldn't hate people of other races but we don't necessarily have to integrate them into our homelands. The races naturally segregate anyways.

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69976c No.856605

>>856593

No. Mary and Jesus' himself was from a bloodline that purposely mentioned multiple non-Jew ancestors (Rahab, Ruth, etc). Race doesn't matter. Being a citizen of the Kingdom of God is what matters (which Rahab and Ruth were).

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e40730 No.856681

>>856593 God created segregation in the first place-

>

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

> Deuteronomy 32:8 “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance,

When He separated the sons of man,

He set the boundaries of the peoples. . ."

Racial integration is satanic. God gave every different race their own nation and now to destroy humanity, satan has taken their right to exist among themselves away from all men. this is done to cause universal conflict.

Racism is right and good and any christian that teaches otherwise is a heretic that has substituted the gospel for the theories of leon trotsky.

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9ea03e No.856683

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138427 No.856687

>>856681

Globalism is satanic but Nationalism =/= racism.

You can't love your neighbor and be racist against them.

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86c015 No.856648 [Open thread]

I'm wrestling with the concept of eternal conscious suffering in Hell for unbelievers. Even for the worst of the worst, it seems like overkill. It also opens up a number of conundrums like, how can we enjoy Heaven while knowing that our loved ones that didn't make it are presently suffering?

I've asked around before and I've never got a satisfactory answer. Most of the time, I get some hand wave "well, it's not for us to know. You have to accept it on faith." But Christianity makes constant appeals to reason, logic, and evidence when explaining The Trinity and justifying Jesus as the Messiah. We don't hand wave, "eh, just believe it and stop asking questions," in such instances.

I know there are debates on the subject, which I have watched, but I was curious to know your thoughts.

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bde888 No.856651

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It says in Hebrews chapter 2:

> For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

> How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

> God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

God is a just God. He will by no means clear the guilty (Exodus 34:7). This is also something we love about Him, because He is righteous. He doesn't just let people do whatever they want and eternally get away with it. That would be unjust. Since man is unable to pay for or make up for the damage of his sins against the Lord, the only possible thing that could be returned or repaid for that sin is death. As it says in Romans 3:23, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

So then it is seen that, while the only way that sin (which resulted from the fall of man) could be repaid is death, God also sent His only begotten Son in order to pay that price for us through His blood. God in His infinite mercy had sent His only begotten Son to live and die on earth simply to suffer in our place, as it says, so that no man would need to go to hell. As it says in Hebrews again, "without shedding of blood is no remission." But if we neglect that great salvation, which is a possible choice by resisting what Christ said and not accepting it, then we are left with the only option which is to simply fail to meet the perfect standard God has set out by His law, and have to die alone in our own sins. Try as much as we can, we are all imperfect and do sin. It is a doomed endeavor to try to keep the entire law of God without Christ. As it says in James 2:10, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." Only Jesus Christ is perfect. As it says of Him in Hebrews, Jesus is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;"

It also says in Galatians 3:22, "But the scripture hath Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b185bc No.856680

>>856648

>I'm wrestling with the concept of eternal conscious suffering in Hell for unbelievers. Even for the worst of the worst, it seems like overkill.

Then you have no understanding of the true nature of evil. If you ever had a moment of clarity in which the true nature of evil became understood to you, you would never again question the necessity of eternal damnation.

hell is the state of being that evil people have sought in their lives, but without the hand of God preventing it from manifesting. It's not a state that God spends an eternity forcing on sinners, it's a state of being which the evil constantly create and recreate throughout eternity. God could damn the evil to a paradise and they would transform it into hell. Hell is just the end result of their unrestricted nature and desires.

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