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Autistic No Mercy Fantasy Booking/Early Discussion Thread Boliever 09/20/17 (Wed) 23:46:14 No.78194

Here's how to make No Mercy an entertaining and memorable show, and also the reasons why it won't be.

The pre-show can be whatever. Stick the Cruiserweights on it so they can cruiser wait.

Before any main show matches, it's revealed in a lighthearted backstage segment at the start of the main show that Bo Dallas is nowhere to be found, prompting The Miz to fire him from the Miztourage and hire Curt Hawkins, who happened to be walking by at the time. The Bo fans here know where this is going.

The Miz beats Jason Jordan to retain the IC title

The Angle angle does nothing for me. The Miz isn't that great, but he's a good talker and gets a proper heel's reaction every time. Someone more interesting should beat him at some point.

<This won't happen because Vince & Friends appear to be going all-in on Jordan. He'll make for a bland champion.

Sheamus and Cesaro beat 2/3 Shield to win the Raw tag titles

Rollins and Ambrose should end their team here. The story of the match is that the two don't click as well as they did when the Noodleman was with them, so they get beaten by superior teamwork. After the match, the two walk tiredly down the ramp in defeat and argue about something the audience doesn't hear. At the end of the ramp, they have a staredown that seems like it might become a physical altercation. However, Seth instead offers a handshake. Dean calms down and shakes his hand, they exchange a few words and then they exit on opposite sides of the stage. They're both faces at the moment and the feud has been done before, so leave it at that. As for Sheamus and Cesaro, they get a big title win over credible opponents and can move on to a new feud.

<This won't happen because muh Shield.

Bayley beats Alexa Bliss, Emma, Sasha Banks and Nia Jax to win the Raw women's title

No, I'm not a fan of Bayley's current gimmick. The title win is the conclusion of a heel turn for her. Early on, there's some kind of miscue when Bayley and Sasha team up to try to take out Battle Cow, leading to Sasha getting beaten up. Bayley tries to capitalize by attacking Sasha afterwards, ending their alliance and setting them after each other. Sasha fends off Bayley and shifts her focus to Alexa. At the same time, Nia destroys Emma by putting her through the Spanish announcers' table and goes after Bayley. Bayley fights dirty against Nia to try to keep up with Sasha, who is quickly getting the upper hand one-on-one against the champ. Eventually, while they're brawling on the outside, Bayley hits Nia with a chair several times to put her down, BREAKing her own self-imposed rule against using weapons. She then drags a barely conscious Emma into the ring, calls the referee over right as Sasha makes Alexa tap out in the Banks Statement and gets the three count to win the championship. This would be a great heel victory and a fresh new start for Bayley.

<Neither the heel turn nor Bayley winning will happen. I expect Bliss to retain without much fuss.

Bray Wyatt beats Finn Bálor

Bálor has Wyatt lying in the middle of the ring after a competitive bout. As Finn sets up for the Coup de Grâce to seal the deal, Bo Dallas teleports in behind him and does his rolling cutter finisher off of the top turnbuckle. Bo helps Bray to his feet and hits a Sister Abigail of his own on Bálor. Bray smiles and covers for the win. The Bo Wyatt era begins.

<Bo Wyatt is not happening and Bálor is Triple H's guy so he has to win.

John Cena beats Roman Reigns

Cena dusts off the old shovel and whacks Roman over the head with it.

<I don't know if this will happen, but expect a slow-paced match full of big move-kickout spam regardless of who ends up winning it.

Braun Strowman beats Brock Lesnar to win the Universal Championship

Lesnar and Heyman are stale. Strowman gets some of the best crowd reactions of anyone on the main roster. An emphatic victory for Braun would be a career-defining moment for him and something positive to remember this year in WWE by.

<This will not happen because Lesnar is holding the title hostage until WrestleMania again.

tl;dr Do bold things that make sense.

Thoughts on these ramblings or the show in general?

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 01:44:15 No.78196

>How WWE should book No Mercy 2017

Looks like Adam got fired from Whatcuckture and has decided to do it for free on /wooo/.

Jokes aside, I like some of your ideas. The most uninteresting match other than the Women's match has to be Balor vs Wyatt. I don't know how long they have been doing this but I've been bored of it even longer.

Ideally, I think Braun should face Lesnar at Wrestlemania 34, he is defintely the most over person they have and they could easily make a better main event than Roman vs Lesnar. But WM34 is still pretty far away and delaying Strowman's big win might make things worse for him ultimately. On the other hand if he wins then delaying Brock's rematch till WM34 is dumb too. Or they could hot potato the title a bit till WM34 but that may be the worst choice. Another thing is that maybe Lesnar retains but doesn't totally win the match. Either it gets too chaotic and both lose via double countout or whatever. Most likely situation is a similar match to Lesnar vs Joe, where the challenger is dominant for 95% and then LesnarWinslol.

I think Cena will beat Roman to continue Roman's streak of losses in PPVs post WM33. Maybe Lesnar vs Cena at Survivor Series might be the next thing in store.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 01:58:35 No.78198

>>78196

Lesnar vs. Cena at SS could happen.

Of course, I think Survivor Series should be entirely Survivor Series matches so REEEEEEEEE.

Strowman will get to do something meaningful at Mania 34, but Roman's winning the Universal title off of Lesnar.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 04:22:35 No.78200

>all this superior booking

>WWE will never use it because their paid bookers and writers don't like it

Hopefully it's at least at the level of summerslam.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 04:32:33 No.78201

>>78198

A PPV actually being themed around the theme of the PPV instead of just the main event match? That's bad for business, the fans love paying more to watch slightly fancier normal matches while waiting for the gimmick to be used.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 05:02:48 No.78203

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>Roman/Cena ends in DQ

>Braun becomes champ

>Roman and Cena continue fued on RAW because God forbid a PPV resolve anything

<However, Braun interferes with these matches because he's not finished with Roman and Cena is cucking him out of his beat down time

>Cena and Braun booked for SS

>Cena ding dong diddly wins the match for the chillun

>17 time world champion because fuck the company history at this point

>[LOUD BOOING] heel run in full swing

>Wrestlemania main event is a retirement match

>if cena wins Roman gets fired and blacklisted from the industry

>if Roman wins John fucks off to Hollywood full time

Rin 09/21/17 (Thu) 06:08:04 No.78204

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>>78194

>Bayley beats Alexa Bliss

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 07:27:03 No.78207

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>>78194

>he put the most effort and detail into describing a horsefaced spic botch artist winning the women's title

Sad!

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 07:35:56 No.78208

>>78207

>>78204

I think bliss should retain too, but the booking he's set up is actually very interesting and could lead to a lot more storylines then what we have right now. Asuka vs Alexa is the money match though, so alexa should hold onto the title at least until royal rumble

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 07:58:46 No.78209

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>>78208

>Asuka vs Alexa is the money match though

Can't argue. I would genuinely enjoy seeing that.

OP's post is nothing but a wet fart in an autistic wind tunnel though. Vince and Co. is far too retarded to actually do anything visionary or innovative. It's why WWE is dying. I see no other outcome at this juncture.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 08:05:10 No.78210

>>78209

I think they've shown that with the main event Raw scene they're willing to take some risks, giving the GBOF main event to a relative unkown like joe was kind of a risk, as was making the main event not a singles match at summerslam. Everything else on the card is extremely poor though and smackdown is shit apart from the tag title matches, which are good but the feud is also extremely repetitive. I'm expecting 0 title changea at this PPV which is a damn shame, the biggest upset will be cena beating roman probably, they're gonna try the Dbry/Bayley approach to get him babyface I think.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 08:22:52 No.78211

>>78210

>a relative unkown like joe

Except Joe was far from unknown. He's has been around for a long ass time. He was ROH champ, he was TNA triple crown and grand slam champion. He was two time NXT champ. He's been known by anyone who follows wrestling for over a decade. Only the most casual of casuals didn't know who Samoa Joe was when he first appeared on RAW. There was no risk there.

WWE is so goddamn predictable and boring at this point I really wish some cataclysmic event would happen to force the company to change and adapt. I mean I'm not saying I want Vince and Stephanie to disappear off the coast of Costa Rica never to be seen again, but something happening along those lines may be exactly what saves WWE from extinction.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 08:31:04 No.78212

>>78211

I didn't mean unknown from a fan standpoint I meant unkown from a company standpoint, he obviously helped carry NXT for quite some time, but vince and crew had never really had a chance to see what he was capable of. It was also his first real feud on raw besides the kind of lackluster seth rollins one, so having it be the main event was KIND of a risk, which they also did with balor, who unfortunately never really got a chance to show what he could do carrying the show. Anyways I do agree with what you're saying though, but I don't know if vince leaving would change anything, NXT has been consistently good lately so maybe Haitch being in charge really would make shit better? Either way it's a problem

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 08:37:57 No.78213

>>78212

>maybe Haitch being in charge really would make shit better?

I'd rather see Shane in charge of the whole enchilada. I mean I know that's not going to happen, but I truly bolieve it would be best.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 10:38:52 No.78214

>>78212

>NXT has been consistently good lately

I don't know how so, I've found it boring for over a year now. TakeOvers are kinda alright and have good matches but I never feel that invested in any of the feuds. I honestly can't remember one single memorable feud from NXT. It caters to the NERDs that like indy wrestling, also because it is filled with indy wrestlers. I don't think many casuals are interested in it, I say that because my dad and brother are both casual type WWE fans and they find it boring as well. NXT is still just an hour long show with a smaller budget so if Triple H runs the main roster, he might do stuff a little different but if it is remotely the same as NXT, then I wouldn't find it interesting.

>>78213

>Shane

I want to bolieve that he will do a better job but I don't really know for sure. He's a good man but I'm not too sure about his creative sense, I say that mostly based off Jim Cornette's opinion on him, who said that Shane's a fine man but had some weird creative ideas that Cornette didn't like. Ofcourse it IS Jim Cornette's word so I take that with a grain of NaCl but it still is something. Fans seem to think Shane would run the business well but I don't think anyone here really knows it for certain.

Speaking of Shane and Haitch, wonder when they're finally going to have a match together. It's said that Steph and Haitch cucked Shane out of inheriting the WWE, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Haitch take out his golden shovel and bury Shane in the ring.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 13:31:45 No.78219

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>>78194

<Bo Wyatt is not happening

BOLIEVE IN IT ANON, IF THE NERDS GOT BRYAN INTO WINNING THE MAIN EVENT OF WW30, WE CAN GET BO A MONSTER PUSH

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 13:55:12 No.78220

>>78219

There's only 5 of us though while bryan had thousands. We have to plan it differently **get to Vince directly..*

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 14:12:15 No.78222

>Brock loses by dq or ringout in the main event so he retains the title with a loss

>Roman pins Cena because hes gonna be doing a movie anyways

>the rest of the card is inconsequential and really a tossup, finishes get changed for undercard all the time for no reason at all so theres no reason to really care

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 15:52:31 No.78225

>>78222

T-trips confirm I guess.

Boliever 09/21/17 (Thu) 19:27:42 No.78227

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BOLIEVE

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 04:46:09 No.78231

>>78214

>I don't know how so

The Roode strong feud was damn good, and the new angles with Cole Fish and O'reily have also been very good lately. There are fewer standout moments but there's also much less bullshit going on.

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 06:02:19 No.78233

>>78204

>>78207

>he wants more boring "eternal champ alexa acts cowardly and runs away from every fight while talking about being ready to fight anyone" booking just because it's the midget winning

>he doesn't want an actually possibly interesting storyline to for once appear in muh wymyn's division that otherwise has no story

>he doesn't want booley to go full heel and a chance for alexa to go face in response

>>78209

OP's post is showing some actual amount of creativity and is an interesting thing to consider. Try making predictions instead of just shitting on everyone thinking about things.

>>78212

The seff feud was beyond stupid. The entire thing was him just being hired muscle for "disappears from the scene entirely" HHH with that entire angle being forgotten as soon as HHH decided to stop showing up for a while.

>>78214

Catering to what Cornette thinks is good is probably what creative right now is doing.

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 09:53:50 No.78239

>>78233

OP is samefag and Bayleyfag confirmed.

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 10:40:17 No.78241

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>>78239

>he doesn't know

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 11:09:29 No.78243

>>78231

>The Roode strong feud

Didn't watch the whole thing but I'm not too sure about the fact that they had to use Strong's whole real life situation, from his wife and child into the whole thing. I get that the best wrestling gimmick is one which is closest to your real self but it seemed like it got too real. Heck it all relied on gaining sympathy for Strong though his real life family, honestly I don't really care much for that.

>>78231

>Cole Fish and O'reily

All they do is beat up people backstage, they haven't really done anything really good. I'll at least wait till I see them in action and actually establish themselves as something more.

There are a few guys I do like in NXT. Lars Sullivan looks promising, he pretty much is NXT's Braun Strowman already. Andrade 'Cien' Almas seems to be doing better now that he has that manager of his, though she doesn't really seem to stand out that much I feel. Authors of Pain are nowhere to be seen since TakeOver, I suppose they will have their rematch and soon enough move to the main roster. Wonder what Ember Moon will do too, Asuka is going to RAW so I suppose Ember Moon will go to SmackDown, but I still worry about the fact that she basically has no actual character, other than being fierce in the ring.

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 13:08:29 No.78251

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>>78233

>HHH decided to stop showing up for a while

He's insecure about his status as some kind of 'legend', so he doesn't want the ratings being low on a show where he makes an appearance.

>Try making predictions instead of JUST shitting on everyone thinking about things.

I didn't take McFreeze's post as negative. He's right that WWE can't be innovative, but it's hardly WWE Creative's fault. I'm not somehow better at booking than the team of presumably professional writers that make up Creative. My goal was simply to make No Mercy as entertaining as it could be and set up for some potentially interesting storylines going forward. Creative is writing to make No Mercy as safe as it can be, and then all of their shit gets thrown out by the madman in charge and rewritten again and again until it's a fucking mess. You won't get quality shows that way.

I'm surprised the Booley story got the most attention. The only reason it's longer than the others is because you have to be more clever to make women's wrestling interesting somehow. I wrote basically nothing for Cena vs. Roman, but that's because the story those two choose to tell will probably be good enough as is.

Heel Bayley vs. debuting face Asuka could be money btw. Think about it. Back when Bayley was the goodiest fucking two shoes in the world, Asuka was the one woman she could never beat. Now, with her heroic limitations thrown out, Bayley should specifically want a match with Asuka to prove that she can beat her. Imagine the heat if Bayley cheated to end Asuka's winning streak.

Boliever 09/22/17 (Fri) 23:15:30 No.78264

>>78243

I think the matches roode and strong had were some of the best NXT has seen, and I especially liked how Roode would start hitting on his wife to goad him more. In concept it's just okay but they executed it really well. O'reily and Fish just had a match this week which was damn good, sanity and mcintyre came out to beat them up after the match too which worked very well. I think they rely too much on indie talent but NXT is still a very decent show with much less bullshit than the main roster.

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 07:49:23 No.78271

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>>78251

Listen up, bastard foolish Bayleyfag, Only 2 women matter on RAW - Sasha Banks & Alexa Bliss. Your ugly manfaced female Eugene is finished, stop your fantasy booking.

Once Asuka arrives, she will become 3rd top woman.

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 08:33:43 No.78273

>>78271

Alexa's going to get BTFO'd repeatedly.

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 08:58:36 No.78275

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Samoa Joe, who has been absent for 3 weeks now, will interfere in Cena vs Reigns. Or he might attack Cena after Cena wins and set up a feud between them for TLC which Cena will win

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 09:09:27 No.78276

>>78275

Joe is injured last I heard, He might be back with this though. Would be awesome if it set up Joe vs. Cena at Mania

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 09:35:00 No.78277

>>78276

>Joe injured

Huh that's why. He is out for 4 weeks so it would be time soon for his return. Cena vs Joe at mania would be cool, especially if Joe wins though that is unlikely. If that's the case then they should at least have one match prior which Joe wins.

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 09:41:10 No.78278

>>78277

It's gonna be a series I'm guessing Joe vs Cena at Royal Rumble, with Joe going over. Then Cena goes over at the inbetween PPV. Then Joe beats cena at mania in a I Quit Match

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 10:46:03 No.78279

>>78278

>Then Joe beats cena at mania in a I Quit Match

Not Big Match John. Plus they can't have extreme matches at Wrestlemania anymore since they are held in huge football stadiums and fighting around the arena seems too troublesome and limited too. Ambrose vs Lesnar 'Street fight' at WM32 was terrible, heck they barely even left the ring to fight outside.

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 11:33:08 No.78281

>>78279

I quit matches aren't hardcore, they're submission matches essentially. And jhon would put joe over probably, he has control over most of his own booking nowadays

Boliever 09/23/17 (Sat) 11:56:14 No.78282

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>>78281

John 'Never Give Up' Cena will never lose in an I Quit match, Vince just won't allow that, I'm sure even Cena knows that. Apparently for WM33, Cena didn't want to do the whole proposal with Nikki Bella since that was too personal and he isn't going to marry her anyway but Vince managed to get him to do it. He even said in the feud against Miz that if he could control who he faces, then he would have been facing the Undertaker and not The Miz, so while Cena does have some control, ultimately he still has to get it past Vince.

>>78281

>submission matches essentially

Maybe in PG WWE they might be sold as such but people still remember I Quit matches to be a brutal affair. Even WWE say that it's to beat your opponent so badly that they wish to give up.

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 05:02:24 No.78320

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>>78264

Oh and 'The Undisputed Era' has to be one of the worst names for a stable ever.

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 06:41:42 No.78327

>>78277

>injured

How?

>>78282

>tfw all the cool stipulation matches were completely ruined by the pg era

When will we finally be free from the autistic insistence that wrestling be "kid friendly"?

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 06:48:44 No.78328

>>78327

Hurt his knee in some way, minor injury it sounds like but it still kept him off raw and house shows this past month

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 07:03:33 No.78336

>>78327

>When will we finally be free from the autistic insistence that wrestling be "kid friendly"?

when kids stop being a more lucrative smarket than people who won't watch unless there's blood and such

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 10:55:30 No.78501

I just want Braun to win clean. 10 minute explosion, a war and the Monster slays the Beast.

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 13:51:15 No.78502

>>78282

>he isn't going to marry her anyway

Kek, where did you hear this?

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 14:55:11 No.78503

>>78502

Here and there, Cena was married once but then broke it off because he is too invested in the WWE to have a proper married life. Nikki Bella is the only woman who's stuck around him so long but he's never made any intentions about marrying her. It's been about 6 months since WM33 and there's been no news about a wedding. The entire engagement was a work I bolieve. If he has time to have a wedding day, he'd probably spend it by learning more Mandarin.

Boliever 09/24/17 (Sun) 17:02:07 No.78506

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