/wooo/ - Pro Wrestling

>>63931

>killing the streak that fucking early

Also, barely anyone mentioned the streak back then. No one cared back then. The streak started becoming spotlighted with Randy Orton.

>>64120

>Nah, even if he hates it, Punk's run was perfect for him.

Nah, the only thing his run did was give him a 5 star match at Money in the Bank.

>>63931

>DX dissolved into the nWo

Bad idea. DX is a much better stable. They'd be better off feuding with each other over power of the company.

>WWE

Wish I could go back in time and prevent Ted Turner from ever doing the Time Warner merger, WCW may have still been around.

>>64310

>>64318

I stand by what I said. They're younger, had a better gimmick, better theme song. better merchandise & better catch phrases. The nWo was bloated with half the WCW roster as members of the nWo. How many nWo members could you name off without looking it up on wikipedia? Most of the nWo members were already senior citizens like Hulk Hogan, Dusty Rhodes & Bobby Heenan. The nWo often buried younger talent, which led to WCW's demise.

>>64340

>better gimmick

invading force from "the north" taking over good ol' southern wrasstlin' vs drugged up assholes that went into business for themselves…

>better theme song

Fake rage against the machine v the fucking nWo theme. Buddy…

>better merchandise

that's why nWo shirts were sold out for much of the late 90's everywhere. That's why WCW and WWF had to go to war with street vendors selling bootlegged nWo and Austin 3:16 shirts. Cause DX shit was such a hot seller.

> better catch phrases

Too Sweet and 4 Life vs Suck it. I suppose it's better if you idea of a good catch phrase is "blow me". I'll give you younger.

>How many nWo members could you name off without looking it up on wikipedia?

off the top of my head?

Lugar, Steiner, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Syxx, Buff Bagwell, Scott Norton, Savage.

> The nWo often buried younger talent

But Shawn Michaels was always willing to do a job no questions asked, right?

>>64343

>invading force from "the north" taking over good ol' southern wrasstlin' vs drugged up assholes that went into business for themselves…

You obviously didn't watch WWF in 1997/1998. Let me fix that for you…

nWo = A bunch of old over the hill assholes who made their fame in the 1980's WWF invading WCW, recruiting wrestlers who were also from the WWF, while recruiting wrestlers they've buried from WCW as well, trying to take-over WCW.

DX = A 2 degenerates and an amazon female wrestler acting like Beavis & Butt-head, pulling pranks & hijacking Raw with their degenerate antics, defying authority. Always pushing the envelope, asking girls to show their breasts & constantly disrespecting the owner of the company.

DX wins this round.

>Fake rage against the machine v the fucking nWo theme. Buddy…

DX's theme song has cool lyrics & an edgy sound. nWo's theme music sounds like it's coming straight out of a biker bar that old people hang out at. DX wins.

>that's why nWo shirts were sold out for much of the late 90's everywhere. That's why WCW and WWF had to go to war with street vendors selling bootlegged nWo and Austin 3:16 shirts. Cause DX shit was such a hot seller.

That's where you're wrong. There was bootleg DX shirts being sold too. DX shirts were constantly sold out at the events. Hell I had to buy some DX shirts on ebay because I was too young to order them from the catalog back then & I didn't have a part time job while going to school, I had to be 16 to get a job at McDonald's, but by the time I was that age, those shirts were no longer being sold. The shirts I bought was the barcode, x-wave DX shirts, along with some other shirts DX related. I also bought a rare DX denim jacket, which sells for $150 or more on ebay. Some other DX items include a license plate with a frame on it, 2 belt buckles(the original shiny one & the newer thicker one that was sold in 2006) & a DX biker hat. Even the newer DX merchandise were selling very well when they reunited in 2006. The nWo shirts on the other hand is just their logo. If you own one shirt, you've own them all. Whereas DX shirts had a variety to choose from. DX wins.

>Too Sweet and 4 Life vs Suck it. I suppose it's better if you idea of a good catch phrase is "blow me". I'll give you younger.

Too sweet is a lame catch phrase. Suck it was so cool because it's offensive, especially at school, which made wearing a DX t-shirt so cool to wear at that time.

>off the top of my head? Lugar, Steiner, Hogan, Nash, Hall, Syxx, Buff Bagwell, Scott Norton, Savage.

See? This proves my point you wouldn't be able to name them all because there were so many members. Where as DX, I can name them all…

Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Chyna, Rick Rude, X-Pac, New Age Outlaws, Stephanie McMahon, Tori, Mike Tyson & that embarrassing mascot that I hate, but must mention…Hornswoggle.

>But Shawn Michaels was always willing to do a job no questions asked, right?

Shawn Michaels jobbed to Stone Cold, Triple H, & Ken Shamrock during his run with his DX. I can't recall others, but I'm pretty sure it always ended in disqualification. Where as Hulk Hogan didn't job to anybody, he buried everyone.

>>64346

>Didn't sell as much as nWo. Even if they did beat them it was because of the New Age Outlaws

Nope. It was because DX turned face in 98 after Shawn Michaels left. Whether or not they outsold nWo t-shirts, I have no idea, but I do know they sold out t-shirts just as much as Stone Cold did. I even read about in a magazine a long time ago.

>Again only because of the New Age Outlaws.

Nope.

>I'll give you that nWo did eventually become bloated, but it had a much bigger impact than a stable of degenerates.

I'll give you the "bigger impact" because at the time they did make wrestling hot. But they're still not the better stable. They invented the wheel, but DX made the wheel better.

>Good god. I think I finally get you.

Doubtful.

>Did you forget that Taker had to scare him shitless to do that job?

Shawn Michaels had a bad back, so I find it very unlikely that Taker had to scare him when Shawn needed a break from wrestling. Why would he want to win WM14 when he needed back surgery?

Wouldn't make much sense.

>And jobbing to your bff?

BFF?

>Did you forget Hogan vs Goldberg?

Did you forget Hogan using his creative control clause on Jeff Jarrett?

>>64347

Iced teaposter? I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Especially since ice tea is the last thing on my mind when it comes to buying drinks.

>>64353

Suck it.

NWO was better when it debuted, and has aged way better than DX. The shit DX did was "pushing the boundaries" at the time, but nowadays it just looks tame and silly. NWO is still a cool concept, and could work in todays environment just as well. Also DX shirts looked like shit that's why they had to make so many different versions of them.

ATTITUDE ERA BEST ERA

>>64357

Nope. DX is way better & aged better than nWo. DX didn't kill WCW like nWo did. The finger poke of doom says it all. DX shirts were better because they had a variety of t-shirts. I love the barcode t-shirt, the DX jersey, the original DX t-shirt with Two Words: Suck It on the back and the X wave t-shirt. What did nWo have? nWo black & white t-shirt? nWo black & red? Not enough variety there.

>>64356

>Why would he want to win WM14 when he needed back surgery?

Shawn was THAT big of a diva back then, according to all the stories. Sounds completely absurd but then again, this is the WWE we're talking about. Taker here himself said that they still weren't sure if Shawn would do something or not.

>Unlikely that Taker had to scare him

Don't think he personally scared him, but Taker was prepared to really beat Shawn's ass had he somehow screwed things up.

>>64381

on a wrestling board no less, hey? what fags.

It's the cuck's opinion to regurgitate what the WWE has said about NWO, with it having too much members and shit, but you see, time to learn something here, the NWO, without all it's members and people defecting away from WCW to NWO, without that, it would've just been another shitty top-heel stable.

Instead it changed wrestling, a much needed kickstart of a nearly dead business.

I would've started the invasion with Vince Fucking Russo walking out there to Ironman cutting a worked shoot on the WCW and the WWF and now he just wants to see the world burn, together will Double-J, Booker T, Steiner, Konnan, The Outsiders and the other cronies. As a response, VKM brings in Eric Bischoff to help him out. Bischoff brings in fan favourites like Hogan etc.

But Bischoff betrays WWF at the big PPV and reforms the NWO, since he and Russo was in cahoots all along.

Then they change the name of WWF, instead of WWE to NWO. NWO has taken over for real.

>>64394

Did I piss you off with the truth? Suck it nWo-Cuck.

>>64381

>le reddit middle ground superiority

kek

>>64363

I'm talking conceptually, NWO is a cooler idea. DX is played out and it's recent run in the mid 2000's showed that. NWO still works as a concept, just look at bullet club over in japan, the idea is cool and pretty much timeless. The bigger company stars come in and run rough shot on the smaller company. It works especially well when WWE is a heel company in kayfabe. Helps make your company into a bigger babyface. And as I said, NWO only needed two shirts cause the shirt was cool. If it ain't broke don't fix it. DX never really had a striking iconic design for their shirts, not that they were bad, but they weren't amazing like austin 3:16, Hulkamania, or nWo. That's why they made so many different designs to try and make up for the fact they had no one huge seller.

>>64405

>NWO is a cooler idea

Everybody & their mother was a part of the nWo. Dusty Rhodes, Bobby Heenan & Jeff Jarrett. LOL Dusty Rhodes & Bobby Heenan were already too old & had no business being a part of the nWo. Jeff Jarrett never drew a dime. Hulk Hogan was old & bald & while he may be the most important part of the nWo, he was also the worst member to be a part of it. There's nothing cool about old wrestlers trying to take over a wrestling organization. DX on the other hand is the better concept. A small group of wrestlers rebelling against the WWE, always pushing the envelope for the sake of ratings. It was fun & entertaining.

>DX is played out and it's recent run in the mid 2000's showed that.

Actually it's the nWo that's played out and it showed during their "reunion" in 2000, and a failed run in 2002, followed up by another failed run in TNA under the name "The Band". DX on the other hand has had a successful run in all of their incarnations except the last one with "Hornswoggle" in it.

>NWO still works as a concept, just look at bullet club over in japan, the idea is cool and pretty much timeless.

The Bullet Club is overrated. Nothing but no-name indie wrestlers who are a part of the group. Their logo reminds me of that found in Call Of Duty, I'm certain someone on there had a similar logo. Either way it reminds me of "Aces & 8's" from TNA, which isn't a good thing. Now if the WWE had the broken Matt Hardy gimmick, that would be entertaining to watch, not a faction that will cause the WWE's ratings to sink even lower than it already has.

>DX never really had a striking iconic design for their shirts

LOL Wrong. DX's original shirt was the most iconic, everyone in my school was wearing that more than Austin 3:16 or nWo. Plus DX had a variety of t-shirts that I loved, enough to buy it on ebay whenever I found one. The DX football jersey alone was cooler than anything the nWo/Stone Cold merch was offering.

>>64399

Not taking the middle ground stance, the DXfag literally replys 'nope' to every argument the nWofag makes, the whole thing is just one fanboy war.

Personally, I'd rate nWo over DX.

>>64398

t. Vince McMahon

>Hottest stable of all time

>In the hottest angle of all time

>In the hottest fued of all time (Sting vs Hogan)

>With the hottest heel-act of all time (Hollywood Hulk Hogan)

But DX is better bro…

Yeah, fuck off. NWO did good business, when DX was on top with Shawn Michaels (only DX that mattered), the company was close to closing down all together.

That's like claiming Broken Matt Hardy was a greater gimmick than Sharkboy.

>>64451

Highest rated show in TNA history if i remember correctly.

>>64438

>Personally, I'd rate nWo over DX.

Translation: I prefer a couple of old-timers who have no business wrestling over a comedic entertaining over the top stable of younger wrestlers.

>>64450

>Yeah, fuck off.

Did I anger you nWofag? LOL Suck it!!!

DX will always be better purely for the entertainment value. nWo was nothing more than a bunch of old washed up 80's wrestling stars.

>>64484

nash and hall only wrestled in the 90's… and shaun michaels is only like 5 years younger then nash and was wrestling in the 80s as well.

>>64517

Yes, but Shawn started out young. Nash & Hall weren't the wrestlers I was referring to, even though they were a huge part of the nWo. I was talking about wrestlers like Macho Man, Hulk Hogan, Dusty Rhodes, Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect, Ted DiBiase, Bret Hart being the washed up 80's wrestlers.

>>64381

>it's the iced teaposter again

>>64636

They're both old & bald.

>>64710

>tfw I was one of the nWofags trying to argue for them

I-I didn't know it would turn into this, pls forgive me.

>>64710

It started out like that with the OP itself but then somehow got even worse. The DXfag is just completely fanboying the fuck out, his posts just show him repeating points and acting like a butthurt faggot to top it all off.

I mean shit, look at >>64484 all i said was that I preferred nWo over DX and his reply just turned it into the same stupid point of his.

>LOL Suck it!!!

What a fag. Plus if you say that SX was more entertaining than nWo, sure that's your opinion, it's ok, but to say that nWo was nothing more than a bunch of washed up 80's wrestling stars is fucking ludicrous, you seriously have to be super mad to say that.

>>64727

>SX

Whoops, DX*

>>64727

>acting like a butthurt faggot

Oh really? LOL….

>but then somehow got even worse.

>all i said was that I preferred nWo over DX and his reply just turned it into the same stupid point of his.

>What a fag.

>but to say that nWo was nothing more than a bunch of washed up 80's wrestling stars is fucking ludicrous,

I'd say you're the one acting like the "butthurt faggot" here, with all that whining. My God…all I did was point out the truth that the nWo was comprised of a bunch of washed up 80's wrestlers. No need to get upset about it. LOL

>>64735

LOL, why cause I talk like a fag and my shit's all retarded?

>not talking like a kikehook tier normalfag

>not liking Roman Regins

>not fapping to Shawn Michaels playboy pics

>not being as huge a mark as I am

LOL

>>64609

Nash and hall WERE the nWo, they were the main focus, Rick Rude was part of DX too but I wouldn't use that to say all their members were from the 80's. And macho man and hulk were legends, and could still wrestle who filled out the veteran side of the faction, and Dibiase was fulfilled the role of manager. You need a healthy balance with stuff like that. Dusty and Mr. Perfect were horrible choices though. nWo was a great conceptual idea, and for a while was the best thing in wrestling. But shit writing and booking killed it.

>>64758

>t. differentfag

>>64735

>Facebook

I'm on there daily. I have friends & family on there, as well as my girlfriend. Also there's nothing wrong with saying "LOL".

>>64758

>Attempting to pretend to be me.

>Forgets we're all anonymous.

>implying

>You're obviously angry at me.

Obvious fail troll is obvious.

>>64765

>But shit writing and booking killed it.

Of course. The nWo were burying younger talent left & right. Which cause them to jump ship to the WWE, such as Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Perry Saturn, Dean Milenko. It made WCW boring to watch if the WCW wrestlers didn't at least get the upper hand over the nWo every once in a while. Where's the fun & drama in burying WCW wrestlers week in and week out? There was too many problems with the nWo. Cool idea, bad execution.

>>64956

I don't have the power to edit my own posts retard.

>>64989

>impLYING

>>64993

You can lie to yourself all you want. But I speak the truth.

>>64709

And you dine exclusively on nigger jizz, KYS

>>64731

>truth

Admit it, you wanted to slurp on Chyna's little peepee

>>67913

I could ask you the same thing with Hogan's little peepee.

Besides, I was never attracted to Chyna. Stephanie is a way hotter DX member.

>>70600

2 Sweet 2 Real

Bullet Club 4 Life

>>70600

>>70602

t. Chase Owens

>>70635

What happened to it?

>>70638

Bischoff and Hogan mostly.

>>63931

>Make the lawsuit with World Wildlife Fund semi-kayfabe

How about actually fight it and rightfully win because shekelgrabbers from completely unrelated industries that pocket any money donated to them for "administration expenses" anyway have no right to universal ownership of a fucking acronym. Do those faggots even exist anymore?

>>70638

A quick summary.

>Poor booking decisions

>Over-reliance on gimmick matches

>A touch of catastophic bad luck (See Lockdown 2007 to see what I mean)

>Wasting money on and pushing old farts instead of their fantastic homegrown talent

>Money trouble because Dixie and Jeff aren't responsible adults, but at least Jeff had the decency to walk away.

>Shitty treatment of their roster leading to regular walkouts

>>70640

Yep, fire Russo. But let us not forget that Dutch Mantel and even Dusty Rhodes were just as responsible for TNA's terrible booking. They deserve just as much scorn.

>>64862

>To where?

>>>/bog/