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 No.996295[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

let's start official video projectors thread

TV vs Projector. Projector easily wins, can provide huge image size at small price and size. Good to watch videos or games. TV only wins if you want to watch (((news))) and other shit in MSM during day and bright conditions.

Monitor vs Projector. now here is my question. what is the point of projector over monitor? Projector guys say that projected image cannot be too big because you won't have it in your field of view and will have to jump your eyes over screen. They only allow big screen if you are far away from it.

So what is the point and advantage of using projector if you can just use monitor from short distance? if you use even small monitor but near your eyes (like on desk) the screen will be big in your field of view. Projector will produce 10 times bigger nominal size, but it will be far away, so in your field of view size will be the same. Then what's the point of projectors?

 No.996310

Projectors don't even have pixels nigger how can they possible be better than a scree


 No.996314>>996325 >>996485

The biggest issue with projectors is their slow response time. It makes them worthless for any competitive gaming or typical computer use and only suitable for watching television/movies or giving presentations.

It's gotten better with newer laser projectors but those cost thousands of dollars while you can get a decent old style projector for less than $100. Also with laser projectors you can have an incredibly short throw so the size can either be small or enormous based on the adjustment of optics inside rather than the distance from screen. Another advantage of lasers is their incredible brightness that's usable in daylight.

A decade from now I wouldn't be surprised if laser projectors make up a huge percentage of the displays in use.


 No.996325>>996329 >>996489

>>996314

>The biggest issue with projectors is their slow response time.

what do you mean by that? delay between graphics card output and what is on screen? or ghosting in fast moving scenes? or something else?

>It makes them worthless for any competitive gaming

competitive gaming is gay and stupid. games are to be played for fun

you want real competition, become capitalist and steal billions from working class


 No.996326>>996592

The biggest issue with projectors is upkeep. Plan on spending $100+ a year for a new bulb. Also they're terrible for anything beyond film/sports.


 No.996329>>996488 >>996592

>>996325

Competitive gaming in my mind is something like mario kart or pong you're thinking of esports which is a completely different thing.

And this should answer your question about lag.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/projector-input-lag.htm


 No.996485>>996486

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>>996314

>laser projectors

MEME DETECTED

How many actual laser projectors, that use them as anything more than a glorified gas lamp substitute, exist? How many manufacturers actually intend to design more?

These things would bring back all the advantages of CRT projectors: Low latency, excellent motion reproduction, no native resolution, no need to make a Faustian choice between overpriced triple-chip or rainbow-artifacting color wheels. The only disadvantages would be flicker (actually an advantage for any purpose other than slideshows or desktop use), and perhaps poor durability of the mechanical beam scanning component.


 No.996486

>>996485

Oh, and in case the images weren't clear enough, I should emphasize that the key difference is "laser projectors" form pixel based images using an LCD, LCoS, or DLP array projected a frame at a time. Actual laser projectors work similarly to a CRT, scanning across each line a pixel at a time.


 No.996488>>996635

>>996329

>Competitive gaming in my mind is something like mario kart

>mario kart

>competitive

With language you're supposed to use terms that make sense for a broad spectrum so you get your point across.

Literally no one on the planet considers fucking mario kart to be a competitive game.


 No.996489>>996592

>>996325

>you want real competition, become capitalist and steal billions from working class

Real competition is done in a heavily controlled environment where the winner is consistently the more qualified individual rather than someone who can abuse the system. Being successful in a corrupt system isn't any indicator of genetic ability that would impress someone who isn't completely amoral. This is why sports exist. It's fun to see the pinnacle of humanity on an inherent genetic or obviously trainable level. This would extend to video games but unfortunately the kikes took over "e-sports" and now it's an absolute mess and virtually no major "e-sport" title is a legitimately competitive environment due to random variables and artificial elements that muddy the waters so normalfags don't feel like there's an insurmountable gap between them and the elite.


 No.996592>>996596 >>996633

>>996326

>The biggest issue with projectors is upkeep. Plan on spending $100+ a year for a new bulb. Also they're terrible for anything beyond film/sports.

Not true unless you use projector 24/7. Modern lamps survive 5000 hours, so if used 5 hours a day it will survive 1000 days. If you only use projector for movies games then you won't even use it for 5 hours a day but less.

>>996329

>And this should answer your question about lag.

>https://www.projectorcentral.com/projector-input-lag.htm

but this article says most projectors have input lag that is non-issue in all games but shooters

>>996489

>Being successful in a corrupt system isn't any indicator of genetic ability that would impress someone who isn't completely amoral. This is why sports exist. It's fun to see the pinnacle of humanity on an inherent genetic or obviously trainable level. This would extend to video games but unfortunately the kikes took over "e-sports" and now it's an absolute mess and virtually no major "e-sport" title is a legitimately competitive environment due to random variables and artificial elements that muddy the waters so normalfags don't feel like there's an insurmountable gap between them and the elite.

lol at sports being clean and competition

jews destroyed sports too. now it's all about selling ads and sponsors, taking more peds than your opponent, corrupting judges

and under National Socialism it wasn't better, all german athletes were on peds, female athletes grown penises and deep voices


 No.996596

>>996592

>lol at sports being clean and competition

I was thinking more of Olympic sports than nigger ball. But I suppose it's all susceptible to kikery at the end of the day. Either way sports are still by design infinitely more fair and competitive than your weird fetishized corporate ladder autism. I suspect you're just another cuckchan cross-posting goon though.


 No.996633>>996673

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I'm never shocked when I make a statement about something I've used for years and some LARPing faggot comes along with google search results in an attempt to disprove me.

Case in point:

>>996592

>Not true unless you use projector 24/7.

Typically projectors are being used sparingly or almost 24/7. Most use cases are for presentations where they're rarely used often or they're left on during most of the day in bars/clubs to show sports ball. The home use case is very rare and even then bulbs never last to specifications most of the time.

>Modern lamps survive 5000 hours, so if used 5 hours a day it will survive 1000 days. If you only use projector for movies games then you won't even use it for 5 hours a day but less.

If you believe the packaging. Those 5,000 hour bulbs are typically more expensive than an OEM replacement and there is no warranty or guarantee that they'll last longer. In other words they can print whatever bullshit on the package and you can choose to believe it if you want because it's going to be a year or longer before it dies and they'll give you every reason in the book for why it didn't make it to the 5,000 hours. The best thing you can do if you own a projector is buy OEM bulbs by the pack and keep them around because you're going to be swapping them often enough to need a spare on hand. When you get down to one spare you order two-three more. This is what most people that own these devices do.

Let's take your non-typical use case as an example: If you're viewing one-two films between work and bed/sleep you should expect no more than a year to two years from the bulbs with OEM or "premium" replacements for a variety of reasons. The main one you'll be dealing with is dust and heat both of which are said to reduce the overall life of the bulbs. The manufacturer will always cite dust if you complain about a bulb that didn't make it to the expected number of hours. Most environments people use projectors in are dusty and most people mount them in such a way that they accumulate heat.

We haven't even gotten into the other issues with them. You pretty much have to build a room around the use of a projector to get a decent picture out of the thing. Screen, seating, light level, routing of cables/source all have to be considered when you're using a projector. Don't get me wrong, it's very nice when you have it all set-up correctly. But they're by no means cheap to buy, maintain, nor are they a good idea for most people considering most people live in small houses/apartments. I only have one because I had a large out building to make it worth my time and enough space to have guests over without it becoming a bother. Mine is mounted to the ceiling and after the third or fourth bulb replacement over the years I grew tired of climbing a ladder and just switched up my set-up to a standard LCD. No one has complained about it or misses the projector and the price of a new TV once a decade is far less than the upkeep on the projector set-up over a decade.

As for the discussion on gaming: They aren't optimal by any means even for something as simple as Mario. If you want that kind of performance you should be looking at the high end. The high end projectors suffer from all the same problems as the low-end ones excluding refresh rates.


 No.996635

>>996488

>Literally no one on the planet considers fucking mario kart to be a competitive game.

<he doesn't enter the biweekly mario kart 8 tournament in his area

absolutely casual


 No.996639>>996673 >>996883

The advantage of a projector is that many people can look at the image at once. This is useful when doing presentations in front of large groups, and when watching movies with other people. There is literally no point in using a projector otherwise. Think about it: a projector is just a screen with a lens in front of it. You can built a projector at home with an old phone and a magnifying glass. Why not just look at the screen of the phone instead? It's the exact same image, but the light traveled less distance, so it will be much brighter.


 No.996673>>996748

>>996633

Projector lamps don't magically die, remember the "manufacturer rated lifespan" isn't for when the mystical xenon pixies inside flip a switch to make your bulb shut down, but for when the lamp's maximum brightness decreases to 1/2 factory rated output. For short throw darkened room applications typical in home theater, that's not really a giant problem.

>>996639

4/10. The advantage of a projector is that it lacks the viewing angle and color/gray reproduction issues of direct view LCD, as well as better (lower leakage) projectors outperforming direct view LCD on black reproduction when used with a good surface.


 No.996748>>996883

>>996673

Modern LCDs don't have viewing angle issues anymore, and OLED has way better black repro without having to shut the lights off.


 No.996883>>996897

>>996639

so projectors are shit if used by single person?

but I see one advantage. If you use monitor, you are focusing your eyes on very short distance and you get nearsightedness

if you use projector it's big but far away so your eyes focus on some distance

>>996748

>Modern LCDs don't have viewing angle issues anymore

of course they do. and modern LCDs are about as shit as early LCDs. there is minimal progress in this shit technology.


 No.996897

>>996883

>If you use monitor, you are focusing your eyes on very short distance and you get nearsightedness

I don't think that's how it works. source?

>>Modern LCDs don't have viewing angle issues anymore

>of course they do. and modern LCDs are about as shit as early LCDs. there is minimal progress in this shit technology.

I tested this before posting. Maybe you only buy bottom barrel chink shit, but even my shitty 7 year old phone works fine when viewed from any angle.

Also recognize how easy this issue is to solve: take a thin piece of paper and your phone. Go into a dark room, jack up the brightness on your phone, and place the paper in front of it. Congratulations, you just solved viewing angle issues, in your home, for .5 cents unit cost. Patent that one quick before google hears about it.




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