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 No.960757>>961041 >>961255 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Are there any affordable OpenBSD VPSs?

I already use it on my personal computer and it's perfect. Zero complaints.

My current server is Debian and it's the complete opposite; I'm utterly astounded by how many fucking bugs this """stable""" distro shits out at me the moment I attempt to do anything routine. I'd like to switch ASAP, but it seems nobody really offers OpenBSD for some reason.

 No.960797

Install it yourself on your VPS


 No.960808>>961030 >>961040 >>961258

OpenBSD instances are everywhere now starting at $2.50/month

Vultr - $2.50

Ramnode - $3.00

Prmgr - $5.00

ArpNetworks - $10

Packet - $50


 No.961030

>>960808

What's with the huge price differences?


 No.961040>>961046


 No.961041>>961048

>>960757 (OP)

do you really trust vps technology in the age of intel processors


 No.961046>>961148

>>961040

What's wrong with it?


 No.961048>>961049

>>961041

OpenBSD disables the unsafe features, like hyperthreading.


 No.961049>>961054

>>961048

doesn't matter unless the host also runs openbsd, and it doesnt matter when the processor itself is fucked

theo de raadt:

>"You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes."


 No.961054>>961078 >>961442

>>961049

Maybe true for Xen and KVM, but if seL4 can be turned into a hypervisor, and put on a processor that doesn't have the bad design bugs, then it could work.


 No.961078

>>961054

>if seL4 can be turned into a hypervisor

That's pretty much all that's been done with it.


 No.961148>>961157 >>961245

>>961046

>At Packet, we're out to Build a Better Internet™ by supercharging the container revolution with smart, API-driven bare metal. Our platform brings the price and performance benefits of bare metal servers to the cloud, powering highly-available performance workloads through a unique, never-congested network.

>Our goal is to make it easier for online innovators to succeed with infrastructure as they push the envelope of performance and value for their users. We do that by removing complexity wherever we can: elegant software, simple pricing, and forward-looking solutions. And robots - gotta have robots!

This doesn't ring any alarm bells for you?


 No.961157

>>961148

>supercharging the container revolution with smart, API-driven bare metal

Doesn't really make sense to me. I thought you were maybe some /pol/ack whining about the Rothschild guy.


 No.961239>>961255

File (hide): e1ddcbc90a66597⋯.jpg (16.23 KB, 188x300, 47:75, memeaway.jpg) (h) (u)

Ha, look, another 15 year-old has been infected with the OpenBSD meme.


 No.961245

>>961148

That's an impressive amount of SV hipster spew to say that they're a hosting company. I'll stick with Amazon.


 No.961255>>961326

>>961239

Ha, look, another "never tried OpenBSD" guy.

>>960757 (OP)

For OpenBSD I would rather suggest an affordable dedicated https://www.scaleway.com/baremetal-cloud-servers/


 No.961258>>961263

>>960808

>Vultr

>even the admin page (https://my.vultr.com/) is served through CloudFlare

Stop recommending that shit here!


 No.961263>>966762

>>961258

Where are you seeing this?


 No.961286>>961291 >>961310

i'll probably get raped by the NSA for suggesting this

but i'd assume if you get a full virtual machine KVM etc, all you need is an operating saystem with a virtio network driver and a virtual machine you have full access to and you can then just ssh/dd write over any default install that the VPS provider has


 No.961291>>961310

>>961286

oh i forgot the virtio disk driver too, you probably need that etc, you know wtf i'm talkin about fellow techie


 No.961310

>>961286

>>961291

You don't need the driver for this really, but it's a bad idea to pay for something they don't support, you are paying to get fucked if anything goes wrong.


 No.961326

>>961255

>Im 2 new to know about the 'masturbating monkeys'


 No.961330>>961429

https://openbsd.amsterdam/

Best I know of 10 euro a month, 5 euro donated to the OBSD foundation. Depending on your use case, and how much of a concern money is you might be better off just setting up a computer in your closet with a dynamic dns like nsupdate.info a free url from dot.tk and a free cert from letsencrypt.org the only package out of base you need to do that is ddclient.


 No.961332>>961428

Some of those are using vmd/vmm which I thought were still not ready for production use.


 No.961428>>966772

>>961332

vmm/vmd have been usable since 6.1, it doesn't support hosting other OS's but other than that it's about as good as you can ask for. Side note but what I really wish is that it was a fixed version of sysjail or chroot, sysjail was removed because it wasn't maintainable and chroot has never had its troubles addressed on any platform:

>There are ways for a root process to escape from the chroot jail. Changes to the directory hierarchy made from outside the chroot jail may allow a restricted process to escape, even if it is unprivileged. Passing directory file descriptors via recvmsg(2) from outside the chroot jail may also allow a process to escape.


 No.961429>>961506

>>961330

You post this here, then their setup ends up on HN. I smell a cross-poster.


 No.961442

>>961054

is anyone providing this service


 No.961506

>>961429

nah, I did originally hear about https://openbsd.amsterdam/ on https://lobste.rs/ so I guess it would make sense that it's on HN. The actual settup of nsupdate + dot.tk + letsencrypt I sort of doubt is on HN I started doing that a year back when I was completely broke but needed some way to host irc in some sort of quality way so me and a freind could talk. At the same time though it's possible just because it's the only way I'm aware of to get a quality free setup on a dynamic IP.


 No.966762

>>961263

Check the HTTP response header (see the Network in your browser)

server:cloudflare

You can also check the DNS zone / PTR / IP records.

>screenshot

Well, that is not the most reliable source. According to them even CloudFlare doesn't use themselves: http://www.doesitusecloudflare.com/?url=cloudflare.com


 No.966772

>>961428

>chroot has never had its troubles addressed on any platform

systemd-nspawn.




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