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 No.956621>>956624 >>956866 >>958248 >>959313 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>v28.0.0 (2018-08-16)

>We are excited to bring you Pale Moon 28.0. This is a new major milestone in Pale Moon's release history.

>We are now building on the Unified XUL Platform which has been forked off from Mozilla's mozilla-central at a point before Rust and Quantum to continue focus on the XUL interface language and traditional browser extensions. Many thousands of things have changed since the v27 (AKA "Tycho") versions, which can't possibly all be listed here. Instead, the most pertinent improvements in this new release are highlighted here:

> SpiderMonkey update: The JavaScript engine has received a major upgrade and now supports all landmark features from the ECMAScript standards as carried by mainstream browsers. This should put an end to the increasing JavaScript issues we've seen due to web frameworks not being browser-agnostic in that respect, or the browser not supporting what websites expect.

> Goanna update: The layout and rendering engine (Goanna) has been updated to its 4th generation (version 4.*) which brings with it improved compatibility with "trendy" CSS styling techniques that build on a few very specific features (e.g. CSS Grid). Goanna continues to build on tried-and-tested software fallbacks in case hardware acceleration can't be used, and Linux remote desktop users can continue to leverage xrender for speedy remote screen updates in Pale Moon.

> DOM enhancements: Enhancements in the Document Object Model provides websites with updated APIs to perform their tasks. (e.g. Fetch, WebAnimations, WebCrypto, HTML Input Element Extensions, etc.)

> Media enhancements: Our media back-end update is, for all intents and purposes, complete. MSE media streaming (for MP4) should be compatible with all major players on the market now. MSE for WebM is still disabled by default due to some compatibility issues that need to be examined, but you may enable this in preferences to e.g. allow 4k video playback on some sites that only offer UHD in WebM format. We now also support playback of FLAC-encoded audio.

> New: WebGL2 support! Pale Moon now supports the WebGL2 standard for enhanced graphical experiences in 2D and 3D.

> Devtools have been given a refresh. Just in case you thought they weren't extensive enough yet, some new categories have been added to inspect and manipulate all aspects of web content.

> Updates to the login manager: Login credentials can now be stored specifically with or without a user name, and selected individually. This is a behavior change from previous, and clicking a password field can now pop-up a selection list of user names for which passwords are stored (if multiple credentials are saved). Clicking the appropriate login name (or date-stamped version if no name is present) will fill in the accompanying password.

>What might be more important for people worrying about upgrading to this milestone is what hasn't changed.

> We continue to support NPAPI plugins.

> We continue to support complete themes as well as lightweight themes.

> We continue to offer a fully customizable interface like before. Australis (like seen in Basilisk) is not used.

> We continue to support XUL overlay, bootstrapped and (deprecated) Jetpack extensions (collectively called "legacy extensions" by Mozilla).

> We do not include any DRM in the browser (people needing this can use e.g. the Silverlight plugin to play protected content), even though the platform we build on supports it.

>Our primary goal has been to lift Pale Moon up to the new platform and as such most changes are "under the hood" and won't be seen in casual use (aside from more things "just working"). We aim to keep your user experience consistent and logical; but some things will have changed, of course. Browser extensions may need updating or may need a different version, for example.

>Of course with such a big change of platform, there are some things that have regressed (worked before but no longer work), and we will work on fixing these regressions over time (hopefully with your help).

>Reality check: Even though we have extensively tested the browser in daily use for a few months (also thanks to the brave souls on our unstable channel) we don't expect that the browser will be flawless or bug-free. If you find bugs, regressions or issues with the new release, please discuss them on the forum. Let's work together as a community of users to make this the best browser yet!

>Big thank-yous and kudos go out to everyone who has, in one way or another, contributed to this milestone release and helped make it possible. This one belongs to all of you!

https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

 No.956624>>956655 >>958786

>>956621 (OP)

>faggy furry code in my GNU?!

>Learn how to not support support furries on the internet and just use WebKit -> page 32.


 No.956644>>956653 >>956654 >>956704 >>958786

great, now modern adblocking and scriptblocking extensions will no longer work.


 No.956653>>956658

>>956644

Palemoon maintains its own fork of noscript, and gorhil offers a palemoon version of ublock origin.


 No.956654

>>956644

What's wrong with the old ones? Did they stop working?


 No.956655>>956659

>>956624

>30 year old boomer cuckchan memes


 No.956657

From one perspective I like this, we've had enough of (firefox|chromium)-based browsers, but from the other, I don't know if I can trust furry code, and I admit I'm not good enough (and too lazy) to read the changes myself.


 No.956658>>957028

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Tried it out and most of my addons don't work but it could be an issue on my end. Sticking with 27 for now as it works fine.

>>956653

No it doesn't I just installed it on V28 and the listing of it on their addon page forwards you to the noscript page.

https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/

And the first time running it there's a page that tells you it breaks most websites on the internet.


 No.956659>>956660 >>956760 >>956874 >>957552

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>>956655

It's not like I'm the only one who visits both sites.

Cuckchan is better for shitposting tbh.


 No.956660>>956661

>>956659

>Taking pride in still visiting cuckchan

I bet you march in parades with faggots too.


 No.956661>>956666

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>>956660

Faggot have way more privilege and sex than me

Life would be prob easier if I was a gay extrovert


 No.956662

Does build still fail on GCC 7+?


 No.956666>>956668 >>956866

>>956661

I think it really depends on the type of faggot. Would you be happy blowing a Boomer with AIDs off craigslist?


 No.956668

>>956666 (checked)

Impressive satan quads, faggot cuckchanner above eternally cucked, even by gays.


 No.956687>>957644

As long as uMatrix works I'm good.


 No.956704>>958786

>>956644

>muh modern

absolute gayboy.


 No.956760>>956788

>>956659

>Cuckchan is better for shitposting tbh.

When Googles captcha isn't being a humongous faggot

ie: Never ever


 No.956784

>ITT Firefox shills derailing thread.


 No.956788>>956845 >>956850 >>956874

>>956760

It's not like you can't get a pass

I don't mind paying 20 bucks for that


 No.956836

I like it

It runs better

Do it or don't, up to you picky fags


 No.956845

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>>956788

faggot


 No.956850

>>956788

faggot


 No.956866

>furfag XD

>doesn't know how much work is put into it compared to water/icememe

>doesn't use Goanna versions and uses googleblob and pozsorosfox

>>956666

Santa,

Imagine the bug bounty

>>956621 (OP)

TL;DR the pros and cons.

so it's still Goanna then we're all fucking good

updating now.


 No.956874

>>956788

>paying jew jap

no one needs the pass at all.

4chan at any time of the day isn't worth payment plus that filthy shit like 8 domains you had to whitelist on umatrix, better donate money to the archivefags who do the REAL work and archive REALTIME.

It's easier to lurk within the archives while on 4chan most good thread are shutdown by jidf before you could even make a reply to that post.

>>956659

>busy shitposting

>2016-2018

you missed the disclosures.


 No.956886>>957645

My tree tabs fucked itself but the firefox version also works now.


 No.956936>>957039

>yet another browser thread

>We are excited to bring you a press release.

People think browsers are important because they regularly compile them. Literal gentoo tards in here. hahahah


 No.956980>>957024 >>957029 >>957035 >>957038

What's the fucking point of addons if the software is already opensource?

Honestly, plugins (or addons) are fucking retarded, why write an entire fucking language and interpreter to add addon support when you could just FUCKING FORK THAT SHIT AND ADD IT BUILT IN.

Why the fuck does this shit exist?

It makes sense in a proprietary application because you don't have the ability to touch the source code but in an opensource application theres no fucking reason for this.

Text editors are the worst when it comes to this, fuckin vim and emacs are so bloated with useless shit it's laughable.

Addons wouldn't even be fucking needed if the web had a grounded standard from the start, every thing about the web is just cancer these days.

"webapps" and all.

Palememe is just carrying on the old bloat while new browsers make new bloat.

Everything is shit, most browsers are owned by sjws and palememe is maintained by a furry.


 No.957024

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 No.957028>>957039

>>956658

>i want to block javascript

>but i don't want it to break any webpages

You're a really stupid nigger.


 No.957029>>957030

>>956980

>bro just write, compile, and maintain a whole web browser lmao


 No.957030>>957049

>>957029

>forking means maintaining

You're the reason opensource is so shit.


 No.957035

>>956980

>Honestly, plugins (or addons) are fucking retarded, why write an entire fucking language and interpreter to add addon support when you could just FUCKING FORK THAT SHIT AND ADD IT BUILT IN.

Because it's maintained by a furfag?


 No.957038>>957047 >>957053 >>957190 >>957242

>>956980

addons are gay, but not because of your retarded reasons, an addon api allows for addons to work in different versions of the browser and to easily run multiple addons from different sources without shit breaking, no you shouldn't need to make a new fork combining the uMatrix, GreaseMonkey and Decentraleyes forks that's not even going to work because they all use a different version of the browser.

Addons are bad because most of the functionality they provide should already be built right the fuck in, uBlock Origin should be built in, uMatrix should be built in, UserScripts should be built in, HTTPS Everywhere should be built in (but with a community-maintained host list instead of EFF's), a cookie manager should be built in. The web from today is absolutely insane, all of this functionally is ESSENTIAL.

>inb4 muh bloat xD

kys


 No.957039

>>956936

This release definitely doesn't deserve its own thread but what do you expect from a dying board that doesn't have anything worth discussing or users worth discussing with?

>>957028

The page that warns users about it breaking most of the internet the first time it runs is intended to prevent morons like you from clogging up support channels but it's not going to do a whole of good considering your reading comprehension level.


 No.957047

>>957038

addon apis are bloat.

Your reasons are legit.


 No.957049

>>957030

>bro just don't port security updates from upstream you'll be fine lmao


 No.957053

>>957038

>UserScripts should be built in

Are build in (at least in chromium based browsers) but you have to make a .js file and install it by dragging it over the extension settings


 No.957078>>957087 >>957090 >>957160 >>958279

Reminder that palemoon 28.*.* is a fork of firefox 52 ESR with all the baggage included until removed plus the hidden backdoors in everything. Reminder that palemoon 28.*.* intentionally removed support and bugged the compiling of palemoon on proccessors such as powerpc and MIPS as a github issue. Reminder that palemoon 27 is a much stabler base being forked from firefox 28 which is not pozzed compared to the firefox 42+ builds that soros and jewgle got their hands on.

Palemoon is now a limited hangout, get out while you can. Don't use palemoon 28.*.* or later versions as it is backdoored like all modern browsers now.


 No.957087>>958279

>>957078

This.

Palemoon 27 is the last good version.


 No.957090>>957112

>>957078

>Reminder that palemoon 28.*.* is a fork of firefox 52 ESR with all the baggage included until removed plus the hidden backdoors in everything. Reminder that palemoon 28.*.* intentionally removed support and bugged the compiling of palemoon on proccessors such as powerpc and MIPS as a github issue.

Source on these claims pls.


 No.957112>>957140

>>957090

Their github issues and readme you faggot.


 No.957138

>furfag


 No.957140>>957328

>>957112

Link to said hidden backdoors?


 No.957145

>faggots ITT complaining about furfags when theres a dedicated furfag thread on this very board


 No.957160>>957184 >>957328

>>957078

>firefox 52 ESR

What are the differences between palemoon 28 and waterfox?


 No.957179

Having problems with the find bar in the new version. Each tab has its own find bar. Old version had one find bar for the window. I find the former quite obnoxious and can't find an option to change it.


 No.957184>>957328

>>957160

Palemoon has actuall code changes where as waterfox is just compiler flags.


 No.957190

>>957038

>muh favorite extensions should be built in

>everyone else's extensions can fuck off

gno

Pentadactyl should be mandatory though


 No.957193>>959689

ARM build plox


 No.957242>>957328

palememe is getting shitter faster, but just in time for replacing my web browser with a bunch of scraping scripts and non-shit GUIs

>>957038

shut the fuck up, i browsed for 20 years without ever needing adblock. you must have your browser misconfigured, like having JS enabled or something. also: YES, adblock IS bloat


 No.957328>>957340 >>957571 >>957603

>>957242

Adblock is only bloat if you aren't using it to bypass javascript disabled blockers for shitty websites you shouldn't be using in the first place.

>>957184

You mean palemoon 27 had actual code changes, a great and very extensive amount of them too. Palemoon 28 is just a hardfork of firefox 52 ESR with some of the telemetry removed via compiler flags and hacked together to work with the old interface, use old plugins, and not compile on powerpc/mips/non pozzed CPU architectures. All of which can be done with compiler flags. Maybe they ported a media renderer from palemoon 27, huge maybe.

>>957160

Palemoon 28 is like waterfox, just different build time/compiler flags. Palemoon 27 and before is actual and extensive code changes to firefox 28.

>>957140

Lurk moar/notabugs on bugzilla of firefox 52 esr.


 No.957340>>957344

>>957328

> Palemoon 28 is just a hardfork of firefox 52 ESR

Literally fucking why?


 No.957344>>957347

>>957340

Because blackmail on moonchild for being a furfag and advertising shekels for palememe's websites. Other then that palememe 27 is safe to fork and maintain. Maybe manually copy+paste over EMCAscript 2016-2018 functions if you care about compatibility with websites like twitch.tv or obscure shit that uses pajeetscript in a crappy fashion. Or better yet, rip out the javascript interpreter as much as possible and have a secure as possible browser with extension and video playback support.


 No.957347

>>957344

Oh don't even get me started on the (((CSS2))) implementation bugs carried over from chrome/firefox that pozz you even with javascript disabled in palemoon 28. Then there's this blatent enabling of telemetry so cookies and javascript from websites can slurp it up ala jewgle cache https://archive.fo/N6N7O


 No.957429>>957541 >>957542

the shilling against pale moon seems awfully orchestrated

it's better now and I will continue to use it

stay mad, trannyfox/joogle


 No.957541

>>957429

Well yea keep using it, just don't use versions past 28 because their shit for reasons states above. Use version 27.*.* and forks of that.


 No.957542

>>957429

Well yea keep using it, just don't use versions past 28 because their shit for reasons stated above. Use version 27.*.* and forks of that.


 No.957552

>>956659

>2 days ago

>no ban

The absolute state of infinitychan.


 No.957571>>957864

>>957328

>and not compile on powerpc/mips/non pozzed CPU architectures

[citation needed], faggot


 No.957584

Seems to work fine with my addons. Definitely works better with javashit sites


 No.957603>>957864

>>957328

>Lurk moar/notabugs on bugzilla of firefox 52 esr.

So you're full of shit. Understood, and thanks for confirming.


 No.957644

>>956687

It works, but you have to continue using the legacy version Gorhill put up, just like in v27.


 No.957645

>>956886

Yes, that's the fucky part. I don't plan on upgrading on my daily driver until the Furrymeme TST port is patched tbh.


 No.957686>>958281 >>958373

>FT DeepDark Doesn't work

Well shit. Now what do I use


 No.957864>>958381 >>958548 >>958786

>>957571

I'll spoon feed you because this is important. KYS afterwards eventually though.

https://archive.fo/ohGTd

>Remove PowerPC support

https://archive.fo/dylHV

>There's a lot of (mostly historical) platform support in our tree that we cannot reasonably support.

>We should remove support for:

>HP-UX

>AIX

>Solaris

<PowerPC

<MIPS (if still present)

>Apple iOS

>>957603

https://archive.fo/FQGOh https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435439

https://archive.fo/c5nmQ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?format=default&id=1465400

There are so many more if you just stop being a faggot and search it.


 No.958248

>>956621 (OP)

Good for them. Meanwhile, I am using an unofficial build for macfags. Cause I'm a macfag.


 No.958279>>958505

>>957078

>>957087

Where has the furfag hidden the 27 download link?


 No.958281

>>957686

Contact its dev


 No.958373

>>957686

Went back v27


 No.958381>>958520

>>957864

>PowerPC

Does that include PPC64 and modern POWER, or just ancient 32-bit PPC?


 No.958505>>958558

>>958279

ftp://archive.palemoon.org/

You can find every binary ever released there.

Still, as I always recommend, archive that shit.


 No.958520>>959057 >>959110

>>958381

Considering as of palemoon 28 the devs are making it difficult to compile on 32bit because of SSE and intentionally adding code that only compiles on 64 bit adress space support, its for both 32 powerpc and modern/ancient 64 bit powerpc. It works and compiles fine on palemoon 27 though.


 No.958548>>958662

>>957864

>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435439

>>intended behaviour resolved in another bugreport

>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?format=default&id=1465400

>>uses a deprecated spec

<<why isn't it working as I want it to work :(

Why are anti-Mozilla shills so stupid?

>every WONTFIX is a backdoor

Wew.


 No.958558>>958656

>>958505

>This FTP server does not have any anonymous publically accessible resources. Anonymous access to this server is restricted.

>Please disconnect and use the correct, full FTP address (with login credentials) given on sites that link to this FTP server in an official capacity.


 No.958656

>>958558

Shit, I'm sorry. I pasted the link from my browser's address bar instead from the link hidden behind a few pages on Palemoon's site, didn't realize it had a login. This should work:

ftp://palemoon:get@archive.palemoon.org/


 No.958662>>959645

>>958548

>lets leave a bug in a depreciated system that is still in the codebase

>lets leave a bug in a modern function because it is "intended behaviour"

>these are't intentional bugs that can be abused, a backdoor, we are leaving goy

>these are ((("intended behaviour")))


 No.958786>>959132

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>>956624

>30 year old boomer drinks Monster

I honesly thought energy drinks were more popular among 15 year olds than 30 year olds, at least it is here in snownigger land.

>>956644

And here is another reason for avoiding Palemoon like the plague: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86

tl;dr: Palenigger shuts down WIP port of Palemoon to OpenBSD over POSSIBLE breach of the overtly restrictive Palemoon license.

>>956704

I think he meant new versions of classical Firefox addons that have been around since the Bush era, not (((NuFox addons))).

>>957864

>removing support for non-pozzed platforms

>mfw


 No.958859>>959156

>Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From Add-On Portal in Early October

>Mozilla announced today plans to remove all Firefox legacy add-ons from the official Mozilla add-ons portal later this year, in early October.

>Support for Firefox ESR 52 will end on September 5, in two weeks, meaning there won't be any official Firefox version that supports legacy add-ons anymore.

>"All legacy add-on versions will be disabled in early October, 2018. Once this happens, users will no longer be able to find [extensions] on AMO," she added.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/

Just saw this posted on SoylentNews. Figured I'd post about it here because I remember reading in the comment section of ghacks that their notorious tobin guy has been archiving all their old addons as part of some project.


 No.959057

>>958520

>it works fine

What have you tested it on? Talosfag, is that you?


 No.959091>>959149

>palemoon 28 is built on ff52!!!!!!1111 FUD

>doesn't have australis

>doesn't have telemetry

>only updates XUL

It's almost like there's a (((consensus))).


 No.959110>>959149

>>958520

What? Palememe 28 compiled just fine as-is on my old work thinkpad with a 32bit processor.


 No.959132>>959306

>>958786

Since when is a 30 year old a Boomer. Is this some new meme I've yet to notice?


 No.959149>>959330

>>959110

That means you are using x86 and are one of the few who have support for SSE instructions. Do you see the problem here yet?

>>959091

Nice job agent FUD but palemoon 28 does have telemetry see https://archive.fo/N6N7O . Sure the telemetry doesn't broadcast to anyone by default, but it is still collected for other websites to use/obtain. Such as through cookies, addons, and javascript.


 No.959156

>>958859

>SoylentNews

>tech stories have few comments

>politics stories have lots of comments

>they are as expected

It's true about soy, isn't it? That it feminizes men.


 No.959249>>959344

I have a few minor gripes with it, I >don't like how the changed the private browsing window to white

>browser takes longer to launch

>autoscrolling is wonky, and pages don't scroll as smoothly

>broke tab groups, I had a shit ton open

Not impressed to be honest, under the hood it's fine but it introduced minor grievances. Security wise will I be fine running 27.9.4 for the time being?


 No.959306

>>959132

Yes. It's a 4chan/Reddit meme.


 No.959313>>959344

>>956621 (OP)

I just updated and now its slow as fuck


 No.959330>>959344

>>959149

>Nice job agent FUD

<he's the one spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Distrust

>Telemetry is disabled at build time

Whoop de fucking doo, faggot. Of course they should've just set telemetry.enabled to false, but you're purposefully spewing bullshit. How much do they pay you at Mozilla?


 No.959344>>959347 >>959361 >>960717

>>959249

Security wise, as long as you disable javascript and update/recompile palemoon with the latest ffmpeg/libjpeg/libpng for security updates on occasion, then yes you are fine. If you don't recompile with latest library security updates then disable images and videos. There's no (((CSS2))) bullshit in palemoon 27 so you do not have to worry about being hacked while having javascript off atleast unless it is through images/videos, hence the library updates or turn it off. Don't forget to disable webRTC if it is in your build.

This is speaking from a purely security standpoint. If you want privacy disable webplatform statistics and block the canvas element of html5 from fingerprinting you. Along with usual platform/http useragent/javascript OSCPU/accept headers change to something else. If you are going to enabled javascript don't do it faggot then install ublock origin and change your javascript OSCPU you faggot.

>>959313

That's because you are using firefox 52 ESR with a theme after palemoon you faggot.

>>959330

>you are correct about telemetry being in palemoon 28

>but I still want to call you a liar

Nice job agent FUD, keep up the good work.


 No.959347

>>959344

I forgot to mention you need to disable external fonts with ublock origin because you could feasable get hacked through those if you don't keep your freetype2 library up to date. You are using openbsd/gentoo/linux, right?


 No.959361

>>959344

>using words without knowing what they mean

Brainlet.

>>you are correct about telemetry being in palemoon 28

Bullshit, sending telemetry is literally not compiled in, stop adjusting what I'm saying. It just collects the data (and I agree it shouldn't in the first place), but saying that means telemetry sending is enabled is horseapples. Keep spreading FUD, Pozshill.


 No.959391

>2018

>don't have a pi-hole

>don't have a openwrt router

>don't use swirtzland VPN with uncluded ad-block


 No.959645

>>958662

That unintended behaviour appeared because the user was attempting to use a deprecated spec that the browser no longer supports.


 No.959689>>959795

>>957193

anybody?


 No.959795>>960344

>>959689

Install gentoo. Build it yourself that is.


 No.960344>>960502

>>959795

Hard to do if you have only 512MB of RAM on your ARM box. And cross-compiling a big, slimy hairball like this one is easier said than done. Maybe I'm just too much of a brainlet, I dunno.


 No.960502

>>960344

Just don't build the program with

>-pipe

And it will compile fine. No different then how they used to compile software for the pentum 4, use lots of disk space instead of ram and go slightly slower.


 No.960717

>>959344

>Security wise, as long as you disable javascript and update/recompile palemoon with the latest ffmpeg/libjpeg/libpng for security updates on occasion, then yes you are fine. If you don't recompile with latest library security updates then disable images and videos. There's no (((CSS2))) bullshit in palemoon 27 so you do not have to worry about being hacked while having javascript off atleast unless it is through images/videos, hence the library updates or turn it off. Don't forget to disable webRTC if it is in your build.

I didn't understand good chunk of that, I'm in way over my head. I guess I'll just use 28. The second paragraph I can follow, I did block canvas, but the rest I don't know about.


 No.960725>>960784

I immediately noticed how much slower 28 is compared to 27. If 28 is just a fork of firefoxs bullshit what do I use then? 27 won't be secure forever.


 No.960784>>960788

>>960725

You stay on 27 until someone forks 27. Atleast with palemoon 27 there are no intentional backdoors. But with firefox 52 ESR/palemoon 28 there are intentional backdoors.


 No.960788

>>960784

Y-You really think someone will fork it? God bless the souls that do. I've become completely discouraged using the internet, especially after this update. There's just too much bullshit to worry about, systemd, modern cpus, routers, active ISP spying, even with a hardened Gentoo system I wonder if there's any escape. I just want to unplug the internet at times and fucking do something else, but it's too ingrained in my life.




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