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 No.933955>>933957 >>934176 >>934596 >>934631 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/22/supreme_court_carpenter_location/

>In a decision that will define privacy in the digital age, the US Supreme Court decided 5-4 on Friday that the government needs a warrant to access its citizens' mobile phone location data.

<Written by Chief Justice John Roberts and joined by the four liberal justices, the majority opinion extended the Fourth Amendment on unreasonable search to include location records that mobile phone operators hold on their customers -- a critical distinction that extends privacy protections beyond a physical device.

>Building on another landmark case in 2014 when the court decided [PDF] that a warrant was required to search a mobile phone, the court decided that the "reasonable expectation of privacy" that people have in their "physical movements" should extend to records stored by third parties.

<The case itself concerns Timothy Carpenter who was arrested in 2011 as part of an investigation into armed robberies at Radio Shack and T‑Mobile USA stores in and around Detroit. The police went to mobile phone operators and retrieved four months' worth of location data (known as CSLI or cell site location information) that showed Carpenter was near each of the locations when they were robbed.

The evidence proved crucial to his conviction and 116-year sentence but Carpenter's lawyers argued that the gathering of his location data violated the Fourth Amendment. They lost on appeal with the Sixth Circuit.

>That Sixth Circuit decision has however been both supported and opposed by a number of other appeals courts (the Fifth, Ninth and Eleventh Courts have all decided on similar cases), making it not only a prime candidate for Supreme Court review but also a closely watched case.

<Thanks to its potentially huge implications, the court was careful to stress that its decision was narrow and only covers the specific issue of location data held on an individual by a mobile operator.

 No.933957

>>933955 (OP)

>the court was careful to stress that its decision was narrow and only covers the specific issue of location data held on an individual by a mobile operator

lol


 No.933959>>933965 >>934403

I don't like the generalized use of the word "folk" like this that spawned from reddit and leftist sites.


 No.933960>>933965

You forgot to point out a prominent bit.

>It also says that there will be "case-specific exceptions" that "may support a warrantless search" and gives the examples of "bomb threats, active shootings, and child abductions."

Means they can make up stories about bomb threats or muh child kidnappers to search without a warrant.


 No.933965>>933967 >>933979 >>933995

>>933959

The Register uses informal language all the time. I am not sure if I would call it left wing but it definitely participates in a sort of muckraking in the tech industry. I don't like that word thrown around too much either.

>>933960

There are watchdog organizations that will complain if that happens.


 No.933967

>>933965

>watchdog organizations

lol


 No.933971>>933972

It's something, but I wouldn't count on it.


 No.933972

>>933971

Police states will continue to be police states.


 No.933973

The more I think about it, how often does this apply to your average person? Usually a mobile app is going to ask you for permission to use location data, and I imagine that's still legal. People are still going to be using GPS, and 'augmented reality' crap.


 No.933979

>>933965

How many "bomb threats" have been a simple joke that was taken too far by extreme faggotry?

It's very likely this exception will be abused and the complaints aren't going to be deterrent enough.


 No.933984

didnt we just have this thread last year? i cant keep track of all these internet law news nor care


 No.933995

>>933965

And how are they going to know if people are being tracked without consent?

Are they going to be on the control room checking everything that goes on?


 No.934003>>934011

>government not allowed to collect location data

>but Google is still allowed to collect and sell location data to any party they want

I would be surprised if the government doesn't have some shadow advertising agency that exists solely to buy their surveillance data from Google on the open market.


 No.934011>>934197

>>934003

How about, and this is a crazy idea, if you don't want Google to have your personal information you... and this is the crazy part, don't give it to them.


 No.934013

>USA

>Privacy

Choose one and only one.


 No.934176>>934182

>>933955 (OP)

The US Supreme Court is completely unable to make authoritative judgments on what is and is not constitutional, and is relegated to making case-specific decisions: exactly what they were not designed to do. The entire judicial branch should be replaced by A.I., tasked with a purely interpretative job of discerning what is and is not lawful by ontological, rule-based pattern matching each case to its relevant laws, and making a factual decision about its legality. Because so many corrupt legal precedents introduce contradicting rules, we'll have to do a full baseline reset to the Constitution and add laws to the ruleset if and only if they do not contradict immutable Constitutional axioms.

There are actually blockchain-based projects being developed right now that could be used as the backbone for such an application but I can't be bothered to look them up right now.


 No.934182>>934205 >>934323 >>934326

>>934176

You are fucking retarded. The constitution's resistance to change is precisely why it's such a beautiful and timeless document.


 No.934195

>need a warrant

Companies can still just give it regardless of a warrant being involved or not.


 No.934197>>934201

>>934011

You're implying that you somehow have a choice in the matter. Google isn't kindly ASKING to take your data. They are taking it. They are taking it whether you like it or not, whether you know it or not, whether they asked for it or not. The simple fact that you are on the internet in ANY capacity at all means Google owns you.


 No.934201>>934204

>>934197

> The simple fact that you are on the internet in ANY capacity at all means Google owns you.

Lol total bullshit. The only information Google has on you is whatever your browser gives them. They put this little link in a page for analytics and other things and your browser just up and sends them what it asks. If you dont want that to happen then black list the Google domains. There is no magical force here. I run an AdBlock and none of that shit gets called.


 No.934204>>934206

>>934201

>he thinks running adblock protects him from the botnet

Oh sweet summer child.


 No.934205

>>934182

Guess you can't read. I'm suggesting a return to the constitution and removal of case law which contradicts it. Even the founding fathers knew that the judicial branch was faulty, Jefferson even predicted that a biased judiciary would erode the constitutionally-protected liberties over time. It needs to be fixed, and we are on the brink of technology to enable that.

>It's resistance to change is precisely why it's beautiful

How's that resistance to change working out so far? As Jefferson said, "it's just a piece of paper" and even suggested that it be rewritten every 20 years. They also failed to add a clause outlawing intergenerational debt. You should read about all the imperfect compromises that were made to unite the nation, it would shake you from your lore worship.


 No.934206>>934229

>>934204

Okay faggot where are they getting the data then?


 No.934229>>934246 >>934261

>>934206

They watch you through the windows with binoculars while you sleep.

Also cable companies log every connection that your computer makes and gives it to the government and third parties wholesale.


 No.934246>>934256

>>934229

>what is a VPN


 No.934256>>934263

>>934246

>implying a VPN protects you at all


 No.934261

>>934229

>what is a encrypted VPN that you anonymously pay for

>what is TOR

>what is not using normalfag shit like goybook and jewtube

<Also cable companies log every connection

>what is encrypting your DNS

Short of owning or MITM'd your SSL provider all the ISP can see is how many electrons pass through the line and what they look like, but not what is in them, if you encrypt everything. Most ISP's actually block non TLA owned DNS servers. Along with blocking most non TLA owned VPN's.

>but anon, how do they block it if you encrypt everything?

They kill the SSL connection without seeing its contents for any website that goes through the USA's nationwide firewall and that is blocked. Try using several different USA proxies and then visiting certain filesharing websites such as mega, you can't as they are blocked at a national level.


 No.934263>>934291

>>934256

The internet at the level of a standard ISP is totally different than how peering works with the back bone providers. When you go to a datacenter you don't send your internet traffic over at&t you do it over 3 separate very high bandwidth backbone providers. The things that ISPs do are NOT the same things that happen at data center peering points.


 No.934291>>934294

>>934263

i think u is replyin to da wrong post


 No.934294>>934298

>>934291

nope, the implication is that a VPN comes out at just another standard ISP so all the recording is happening just from another location, but its not actually the case.


 No.934298>>934300

>>934294

Do you think all VPN's are equal?


 No.934300

>>934298

VPNs are Tor for dumb niggers.


 No.934301>>934303

It only applies if you are not their suspect.

Put xyz on list of suspects

collect data on xyz

no warrant needed


 No.934303

>>934301

thats not how it works


 No.934323

>>934182

>The constitution's resistance to change is precisely why it's such a beautiful and timeless document.

It's still weak to being completely ignored.


 No.934326>>934331

>>934182

Like how it says that christian bakers have to make cakes for gay weddings.


 No.934331>>934396

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>>934326

Not anymore.


 No.934396


 No.934403>>934556

>>933959

>Hating on your own Volk

>>>/oven/


 No.934556>>934599

>>934403

I think he's referring to white liberals who use the word folk to sounds black. They think it makes them sound black and therefore cool.


 No.934596

>>933955 (OP)

Why is the highlighter green but the ink yellow.


 No.934599>>934619

>>934556

Is "folk" slang now? That is more a rural/southern thing than a black thing unless the urban youth (tiny niggers) have started using it recently. I've noticed more pretend country people in the last few years. At some point it became cool to get a lifted truck, buy camo, and pretend to be country even though they live in the city and well off areas. I'd noticed a lot of black teenagers mixed in with these groups and I just assumed they were copying the latest trend the white kids came up with.

Forgive me, I'm old. I don't understand why it suddenly became popular to pretend you are poor.


 No.934619>>934680

>>934599

The use of the word "folk" is part of faggy white liberals trying to sound black (poor by proxy) I guess. I don't know or care, it's all pretty stupid to me. The effort to be "poor" while standards of living are higher than ever is laughable. Fucking stupid.

Also there is a movement towards white working class culture growing in popularity. I think it's a good thing, but it definitely creates some posers. If only these kids knew what it's like to actually have to scrape by for a living. They'll figure out soon enough.


 No.934631

>>933955 (OP)

Knock off a couple radio shacks, get 116 years.

Murder someone, get 10 years.

Steal billions from Enron investors get 5 years.

Steal trillions orchestrating housing collapse, pay a small fine.

God I love this country.


 No.934680

>>934619

Yea I agree it's better than the nigger/thug culture for sure. I'd rather see black kids pretending to be farm boys than white kids pretending to be from the hood. I was just surprised that they've latched on to the word "folk". I stopped using social media years ago and I no longer keep up with the retarded shit normalfags do anymore. "Folk" just seemed like the last word that would ever become slang considering how common it's used where I'm from. I don't know how they are using it but here people say things like

>Those people are good folks

All of the time. I assume the niggers butchered it and the posers even more so.


 No.935610

>/tech/ - law




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