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 No.925996>>925999 >>926005 >>926006 >>926014 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

All the shit datamining websites in the world are running on Linux. Free software might be killing off proprietary software, but unless it's AGPL, it's a free subsidy to closed-off webservices and dataminers. The commercial web would not have happened in anywhere near the current scale without the efforts of the FOSS community. Why do we continue to allow them to benefit?

 No.925999

>>925996 (OP)

>All the shit datamining websites in the world are running on Linux

Yeah, they wouldn't if Linux was AGPL.


 No.926005

>>925996 (OP)

How will you enforce AGPL?

You physically can't know what's running on that server. Maybe they even wrote their own OS. It just happens to work similarly.


 No.926006

>>925996 (OP)

>How would the world be different if GNU/Linux were AGPL3?

Everything exposed to end users would run freebsd (proprietary).

>Free software might be killing off proprietary software,

Only for software that companies use, they want everything they use to be cuck licensed and everything they put out to be proprietary. Also Android is mostly free software but it doesnt really matter because proprietary software is in control (DRM) and the free software is just being used to save costs.

>but unless it's AGPL, it's a free subsidy to closed-off webservices and dataminers. The commercial web would not have happened in anywhere near the current scale without the efforts of the FOSS community. Why do we continue to allow them to benefit?

I think it would just have taken longer and be more expensive for them (a good thing) but spying on everyone and using that data for analysis and manipulation is too profitable for it to not be done anyway, even if they had to make their own software instead of just leeching from FLOSS.


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For someone who complains so much about these web"services", Stallman seems to be the one person who facilitated them the most. Ironic.


 No.926014

>>925996 (OP)

Even if free or open source software would not exist facebook and others would have made a proprietary equivalent.

Actually AGPL doesn't stop the said people from legally sniffing data, they already state it in their conditions if they were to disclose the technical side we would just have more proof of what they do.

For example a few days ago I audited a free software for the fdroid depot, it was GPlv3 but the code did have snooping capabilities, I asked the dev to remove them he tried to bribe me I said no and he went away.

>>926010

Ironic that the most used and oppressive software in the world is a MIT licensed one called Minix3.


 No.926098

They would have to provide the kernel sources if they modified them. They wouldn't have to provide sources for anything they run on top.


 No.926108

I think you are wrong OP. "FOSS" didn't get a mainstream push into public awareness until the late 90's and early 00's. Before that, most hosted websites were running proprietary operating systems that contained proprietary servers. If there was no "FOSS", the system would still be at the level it is today. Businesses would have bought the software instead. In fact, it might have proved more favorable had people only invested in proprietary solutions instead of open source ones.




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