==Electronics-recycling innovator is going to prison for trying to extend computers' lives==>A Southern California man who built a sizable business out of recycling electronic waste is headed to federal prison for 15 months after a federal appeals cour

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▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 10:38:04 No.911623>>911645 >>911651 >>911693 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Electronics-recycling innovator is going to prison for trying to extend computers' lives

>A Southern California man who built a sizable business out of recycling electronic waste is headed to federal prison for 15 months after a federal appeals court in Miami rejected his claim that the "restore discs" he made to extend computers' lives had no financial value, instead ruling that he had infringed on Microsoft Corp. to the tune of $700,000.

>The appeals court upheld a federal district judge's ruling that the discs Eric Lundgren made to restore Microsoft operating systems had a value of $25 apiece, even though the software they contained could be downloaded free and the discs could only be used on computers that already had a valid Microsoft license

>Initially, federal prosecutors valued the discs at $299 each, or the cost of a brand new Windows operating system, and Lundgren's indictment alleged he had cost Microsoft $8.3 million in lost sales. By the time of sentencing, a Microsoft letter to Hurley and a Microsoft expert witness had reduced the value of the discs to $25, stating that was what Microsoft charged refurbishers for the discs.

>Lundgren pleaded guilty but argued that the value of his discs was zero, so there was no harm to anyone. Neither Microsoft nor any computer manufacturers sell restore discs. They supply them free with new computers, and make the software available for free downloading, for those who have paid for the software and received a license --- typically a sticker with a "certificate of authenticity" number on it. Lundgren said that he was trying to make the discs available again for those who needed them, and that they could only be used on licensed computers.

TLDR: Califaggot made a bunch of discs that give you a fresh install of Windows, and only work with a valid copy of Windows, because tech illiterate normalfags can fix their PCs at no cost, gets sued and sent to jail

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-microsoft-copyright-20180426-story.html

http://archive.is/oqfhb

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 11:57:52 No.911645>>911830

>>911623 (OP)

You own nothing, goy.

> That pic

He looks like a massive faggot

> That WebM

What's with that video, what does it have to do with anything?

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:10:11 No.911651>>911824

>>911623 (OP)

Well going to jail for this is absolute madness but Microsoft is in it's right to prosecute him, the EULA clearly states it.

It's illegal to sell a already used/old computer with a Windows license because a windows license is only legally valid to it's first user.

Even tho the guy is a total fag he doesn't deserve to go to jail for this, maybe a small fine or a mandatory uninstalling windows on the PCs customers but not jail.

Install Gentoo.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:17:05 No.911661

>What are you in for?

>I didn't install Gentoo.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:26:49 No.911678

Using Windows is a crime.

▶>Not using only Free Software Richard Stallmanu 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:32:38 No.911693

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>>911623 (OP)

I could have saved you. I told you about the dangers of Proprietary Software but you looked away. Why didn't you listen. Now you pay the price. But don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 12:33:00 No.911694

protip: making a business out of unauthorized distribution of software will take you to court

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 13:49:53 No.911755

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<not uploading a picture of the discs he was selling

These discs weren't simply just burned. He went through the effort of making these counterfeit discs look like the real thing.

He also confuses freeware for free software and thinks he has the freedom to redistribute the software.

When you mess with proprietary software you have to accept the fact that the law is against you.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 15:45:33 No.911789

He could've avoided this by installing GNU/Linux. Now we wait for the same mistake to crop up again, but this time it's somebody trying to extend an old Apple or restore an Amiga, NEXT, BEOS, Solaris, UNIX etc. for nostalgia.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 17:20:10 No.911824>>911838 >>911839

>>911651

>the EULA clearly states it.

The last time I read a Windows EULA, it said that the software was licensed for the computer, not user. Also, just because software is licensed for that computer doesn't mean a user is required to have it installed.

How are these CD-ROM's not legal backup copies? It would be interesting to see what his lawyer(s) and the prosecution said in argument. Also, how was this a criminal proceeding? Microsoft can't sue for criminal punishment.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 17:31:08 No.911830

>>911645

>What's with that video, what does it have to do with anything?

Yakuza watching death.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 17:58:00 No.911838>>911839 >>911845

>>911824

>How are these CD-ROM's not legal backup copies?

Because they aren't backup copies. This is proprietary software being shared without an agreement from Microsoft. Now go back to where you came from >>>/reddit/

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 18:01:51 No.911839>>911845

>>911824

>How are these CD-ROM's not legal backup copies

Like >>911838 said it's because to make a copy you need MS to give you permission to do so.

It's in the EULA.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 18:07:09 No.911845>>911857

>>911838

How are they not backup copies?

>>911839

You already have permission to make copies for backup purposes.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 18:13:22 No.911852>>911873

do you just keep reposting this shitty thread forever until people start a fundraiser for him or something?

HE ISN'T "ELECTRONICS RECYCLING INNOVATOR, HE DIDN'T INNOVATE ANYTHING

HE IS JUST RESELLING SOFTWARE FOR PURPOSE OF HIS OWN PROFIT, HE ISN'T PHILANTROPIST

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 18:22:15 No.911857>>911869

>>911845

>How are they not backup copies?

To be backup copies the END USER WOULD HAVE NEED TO HAVE COPIED THEM.

IT ONLY APPLIES TO END USERS

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 19:16:26 No.911869>>911872

>>911857

A lot of Microsoft shills here.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 19:26:40 No.911872

>>911869

It only applies to individuals. You can't make mass copies of Windows binaries, distribute them and say: "Those thousands of copies were all necessary for my PC in case it breaks and I totally haven't sold them"

tl;dr you can't distribute your fucking thousands of backup copies of copyrighted content.

a backup copy isn't something you make just to give it to all your friends instead

>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 19:27:10 No.911873>>911874

>>911852

the restore discs are free to download

and can only be used if you already have a license

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 19:30:42 No.911874>>911877

>>911873

It's still copyrighted content of which they don't have the copyright. The download version is still distribution and thus disallowed.

freeware != free as beer software

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 19:38:03 No.911877

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>>911874

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 20:19:30 No.911895

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>he put windows on the disks

>gets put in prison

So, he's an idiot.

I don't see the problem with this.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 20:33:17 No.911897>>911923

God damn these ki--

>charging for copies of windows disks

Oh wait, HE is the kike. Good riddance, then.

All he had to do is to install linux.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 21:19:12 No.911916

I get the intention so that's pretty cool of him 'reviving computers' but why did he have to redistribute IP protected content? Is he 38-year old or something?

It's a "restore disk" but you gotta have OEM rights for that and official refurbishing rights too if you plan on reselling refurbished items with microshit.

▶Anonymous 05/09/18 (Wed) 21:27:04 No.911923

>>911897

<install linux

>not install gentoo

▶Anonymous 05/10/18 (Thu) 08:28:41 No.912113

>make money by selling unlawful copies of proprietary product

>why did they sue me?

harsh punishment, but it also seems like a really stupid thing to do in the first place. what's the innovative thing he did?

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