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>Toward the end of April, Raymond Nicholson posted a patch to the glibc manual removing a joke that he didn't think was useful to readers. The joke played on the documentation for abort() to make a statement about US government policy on providing information about abortions. As Nicholson noted: "The joke does not provide any useful information about the abort() function so removing it will not hinder use of glibc". On April 30, Zack Weinberg applied the patch to the glibc repository.
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/753646/c869537af7d612a6/
Fortunately for us RMS is still sane.
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>>910997 (OP)
>still sane
>saying that abortion is less traumatic than childbirth
Fuck off leftist kike
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>>910999
>Fuck off
>be 7/8 billions
>sane water and food resources are beginning to dry
>still breed like rabbits
>still import refugees from other countries
Stop being triggered it's a joke not a political message.
▶ No.911004>>911026 >>911048 >>911054 >>911291 >>925998
Here is the supposed joke:
> Future Change Warning: Proposed Federal censorship regulations may prohibit us from giving you information about the possibility of calling this function. We would be required to say that this is not an acceptable way of terminating a program.
If I were reading this I would be scratching my head what on earth this was supposed to mean. Jokes don't belong in a reference manual, this is one case where I would approve of the removal.
>>910999
Abortion literally scars the insides of the uterus making each following pregnancy more risky. That's because the fetus is a living being and not some machine component you can just unplug.
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>Is anyone surprised? RMS is cool with the FSF firing female employees when they report being harassed. This just continues that.
RMS joking about child murder is sexist as fuck. Check your baby killer privilege shitlord.
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>>911003
Are you 12 or a woman? This level of fact checking belongs in a kindergarten
▶ No.911011>>926001
Sorry lads, The abortion joke has been ABORTED. This procedure is not reversible. You can spend the rest of your life wishing you hadn't but you can never put that joke back.
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technically, RMS is an incel?
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>>911012
https://stallman.org/articles/childhood-sweetheart.html
>A few months later, a beautiful and clever but rather too forceful woman asked me to be her lover. I had some doubts but wouldn't reject the idea out of hand. So she spent the night with me.
He's also had several girlfriends. At the very least, there's the one he was going to name his kernel after and the one he had while his biography was being written.
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While some free software projects have a benevolent dictator, the GNU project has something else. Once in a blue moon St. Ignucius descends from heaven to speak his mind about an aspect of the GNU project.
His word is right. His word is concrete. His word is final.
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>>911017
Put me in the screencap XD!!
Hello reddit.
▶ No.911022
>Zack (((Weinberg)))
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
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>>911004
>this is one case where I would approve of the removal.
ABORT YOURSELF
do not ever pander to sjw's. do not give them a millimeter
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>>911026
How is this pandering to SJW's?
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>>911027
>censoring the GNU glibc manual because a (((Weinberg))) is offended isn't pandering to sjw's.
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>>911029
Did you read the joke? Or is this some leftypol crap tactic.
▶ No.911032>>911170
Are you trying to figure out whether you should be upset about a jew inserting a pro-abortion message into a technical manual or about another jew taking it out because it might offend someone?
This is peak /pol/.
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>>911004
>Abortion literally scars the insides of the uterus making each following pregnancy more risky
Proof please.
Also births aren't free of charge from danger too.
>>911027
>How is this pandering to SJW's?
It's pandering to people who think the joke can be offensive (even if I don't know how) thus not inclusive if you agree with such people just because a ==MANUAL MADE BY A MIT HIPPIE == then your project is doomed it will start a fire who will begin to purge everything that can be considered bad to the eyes of the people judging it, it will render everything around it ==STERILE== .
>>911036
>mastodon
How surprising.
Also how do you make these research so fast ?
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>>911048
>Also how do you make these research so fast ?
One does not build a liberal kill list in one day.
>Proof please.
>he still thinks abortions are a-okay
http://uscfertility.org/causes-infertility/uterine-scarring/
https://archive.fo/0qULO
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>>911004
>scars the inside of the uterus
And how the fuck do you think periods work? There's an entire literal wall between any permanent tissue and the fetus. You're just parroting Christian propaganda without knowing what the fuck you're talking about. I swear to god you fucking baptists and SJWs are the same fucking people.
▶ No.911060>>911065 >>911170 >>911993
joke should have been removed since it's an aspergers tier joke, not easy to understand
abortion is good, anti-breeders should be allowed to sterilize themselves like the robots they wish to be
>>911054
technically, that disposable wall could still scar even if the scars are disposed of and leave within a month
>>910999
>raising a child is not traumatic
>responsibility is not traumatic
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>>911051
>One does not build a liberal kill list in one day.
God speed, Anon.
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>>911060
>supporting the jew
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>>911051
>he still thinks abortions are a-okay
To avoid abortion avoid making babies.
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> Let's make libc development a safe space
woah... stallman is so based
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>>910997 (OP)
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/753646/c869537af7d612a6/
>Toward the end of April, Raymond Nicholson posted a patch to the glibc manual removing a joke that he didn't think was useful to readers. The joke played on the documentation for abort() to make a statement about US government policy on providing information about abortions. As Nicholson noted: "The joke does not provide any useful information about the abort() function so removing it will not hinder use of glibc". On April 30, Zack Weinberg applied the patch to the glibc repository.
>Richard Stallman, who added the joke sometime in the 1990s, asked that it not be removed. The resulting discussion touched on a number of issues. Carlos O'Donell, who has been trying hard to resolve the issue with some degree of consensus, suggested that the joke could hurt people who have had bad experiences associated with abortion. He proposed a couple of possible alternatives, including avoiding jokes entirely or discussing such issues in a different forum. Stallman, however, replied that "a GNU manual, like a course in history, is not meant to be a 'safe space'". He suggested the possibility of adding a trigger warning about functions that create child processes, since childbirth is "far more traumatic than having an abortion".
Never knew about this before
FUCKING GOLD
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"a GNU manual, like a course in history, is not meant to be a 'safe space'".
GNU-sama!! I love you!
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>>911085
>childbirth is "far more traumatic than having an abortion".
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>>911072
>muh sources
Spotted the kike.
Have a link from a business in your "model city".
https://www.advancedfertility.com/uterineadhesions.htm
>Dilation and curettage
Abortion.
You can't scurry your way out of facts.
>>911069
Abortion, along with alimony, welfare, birth control, and "equal rights", destroys women and countless numbers of children.
It's true that widespread abortion cut down on criminals, but the declining birthrates were used as the pretext to import pajeets.
The loss of criminals also softened the police, women, and men, who are now allergic to criminal activity.
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>>911112
>being sedated while a doctor kills your baby is somehow worse than pushing a football out of your cooter while you're awake
they're right, you know
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>>911112
>gif
>1.93MB
Go back to reddit.
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>>911085
>a GNU manual, like a course in history, is not meant to be a 'safe space'.
yeah this is one of the reasons we still love RMS.
stand up with me and say:
long live RMS!
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>>911132
lel if you check the comments on OP's source, just like the recent article of the pajeet programming manual (http://archive.is/BjGwv) are sjw as fuck
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so that's what RMS cares about
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>>911150
How do I remove the bump-lock from a bump-limited thread?
▶ No.911156
>caring about whether post-abortion braindead partywhore stacies still retain fertility
A mother failed once should never be a mother, every abortion should be followed by full sterilization.
And for god's sake, dear alt-tabs, get into UN or whatever high-flight org and bring that shit to Africa, niggers can't seem to deem the concept of condoms yet those are dumped on them in tonnes.
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>>911026
This has nothing to do with SJWs, jokes of any kind do not belong into a reference manual. This joke is particularly bad, because unless you are from the US and are aware of the legislation that is being mocked, it will fly completely over your head and you won't even know that it's supposed to be a joke. When I read it the first time I was left scratching my head, like "WTF is any of this even supposed to mean?". It only adds confusion and the sole reason why this "joke" is even in the manual is because Stallman abused his position as technical writer to add a quip about a political topic.
>>911048
> Also births aren't free of charge from danger too.
Nothing is free of danger, every time you have a meal there is a real chance on you choking on it. And yet women have been able to give birth for millennia quite successfully.
>>911054
The uterus consists of more than one kind of tissue. A period is a natural process, just like skin shedding is, but if you cut your skin you still get a scar on it. And I'm neither a baptist, nor an SJW.
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>Who controls glibc?
Who really cares? You should be using other libc's, or (gasp) Linux directly.
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>>911161
Wait...
I think that's literally true, due to the word "mostly", but people
could get the wrong idea from it. GNU Libc is not an independent
project.
The GNU C Library is a GNU package -- part of the GNU Project. That
means I appoint official maintainers who are in charge of the work.
They are responsible to the GNU Project and specifically to me as
Chief GNUisance. I appointed the GNU Libc maintainers in that way.
Occasionally I give specific instructions to package maintainers about
some specific point. But that's the rare exception. All the other
points, I leave to the package maintainers to decide -- following the
overall policies and goals of the GNU Project.
For many GNU packages, the sole maintainer does the work. However,
maintainers can recruit other contributors. The maintainers of GNU
Libc recruit lots of contributors, and delegate many decisions to
them; but the maintainers are responsible to the GNU Project for all
the work on the package, including what they delegate.
As long as the maintainers carry out their responsibity, on the issues
which that touches, how they decide everything else is up to them. If
they wish to do it through consensus among the community of project
contributors, that's fine, as long as they get good results that way.
Thus, it may be well be the case that the GNU C Library is _mostly_ a
consensus-based community-driven project -- if the maintainers have
decided to delegate most decisions that way. However, on _some_
questions they have specific responsibility to the GNU Project,
so they can't delegate the authority to you.
I exercise my authority over Glibc very rarely -- and when I have done
so, I have talked with the official maintainers. So rarely that some
of you thought that you are entirely autonomous. But that is not the
case. On this particular question, I made a decision long ago and
stated it where all of you could see it.
If you would like me to change it, it is up to you to convince me
to change my decision.
This is gold. GOLD.
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>>911003
>>911060
This is the fault of Nogs, not Whites. Abortions and Castrations are targeted at whites.
>>911032
The right answer is that Nicholson is in the bigger wrong here. We need more gas chamber jokes to combat the abortion jokes. All is fair in the meme war.
>>911051
>One does not build a liberal kill list in one day.
Salutations to mein kamaraden.
>>911085
>Childbirth is worse
Meme him to death. We need it, does not matter if SystemD takes over.
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>>911120
>dilation and cuttage
Oh, so like birth itself?
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>>910999
aw the nazi is triggered... ironic
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>>911178
Yeah, you christcuck. One is aware of its surroundings and the other was never a concious entity.
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>>911183
Neither are you trannyfag.
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>>inserting politics in 0s and 1s
its not necessary but it is hilarious
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>>911003
>ignore Africa having a birth rate of 10 per woman and literally expected to grow to a pop of 5 billion by 2100
>support abortion for the west because "we're running out of resources"
You've got kike in the brain.
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>>910999
>shitting a watermelon is less traumatic than shitting a seed
>caring for the watermelon by forge for 30 years is less traumatic than just caring for it when you're ready or never
Fuck off, (((Catholic)))
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>>910997 (OP)
>>911004
>Here is the supposed joke:
>>911085
>>911159
>jokes of any kind do not belong into a reference manual
>>911164
Honestly this is history and that's why I think it should not be removed, besides of course for censorship reasons.
Let's go back in context why was added, when this added the feminist movement was struggling for woman to have the freedom to choose to keep the baby or not. Nowadays it's fortunately the standard.
Let's also remember that computer MIT people in the 80s were hippies to the contrary of the sterile environment that we have today.
Free software projects can add whatever they want in their lines of comments I don't think that it's particularly negative to have jokes or not, if think it gives them some sort of uniqueness from the time it was done.
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>>911159
> because Stallman abused his position as technical writer to add a quip about a political topic.
>abused his position as technical writer
>abused his position
>abused
This quote is as old as the GNU project if not older, RMS was nothing besides a hacker at that time.
>This has nothing to do with SJWs
It totally is, for 20+ years this wasn't a problem and now it is.
>And yet women have been able to give birth for millennia quite successfully.
>for millennia quite successfully.
>quite successfully.
>successfully
I don't consider the death of the mother to be a successful thing. Same when both mother and child dies.
The ratio of death from birth as almost disappeared with modern medicine (and I say almost it hasn't and cannot be stopped because shit happens).
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>>911297
Why do you have to greentext so much? You aren't proving any point except that you are annoying.
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>>911184
>can't even respond to the point
>y-you're n-not concious
Great point. I'll consider it.
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>>911183
You don't seem to be aware of your surroundings either
▶ No.911317
>>911221
Try to put your thoughts into a coherent argument if you want serious replies, otherwise you'll just look like somebody who has no idea what he's talking about
▶ No.911319
>>911305
You're not a real person, you're not conscious, you aren't even an animal. You're just some kind of object. Don't cry about about me ignoring your points, this isn't personal because you're not a person. It's mechanical flush.
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>>911297
>This quote is as old as the GNU project if not older, RMS was nothing besides a hacker at that time.
So he was a retard from day one. How does this make anything better?
>It totally is, for 20+ years this wasn't a problem and now it is.
It always was a problem, it's just that no one bothered with it now.
>I don't consider the death of the mother to be a successful thing. Same when both mother and child dies.
>The ratio of death from birth as almost disappeared with modern medicine (and I say almost it hasn't and cannot be stopped because shit happens).
What the fuck are you talking about? Women have been popping out babies in the past like crazy since there was no contraception. Due to higher child mortality this was not much of an issue. Death during childbirth was an exception, not the norm.
>>911291
>Let's go back in context why was added, when this added the feminist movement was struggling for woman to have the freedom to choose to keep the baby or not.
I bet you passed Newspeak class with a double-plus good. Women always had the choice of whether they wanted to have a baby or not, it was called "not being a whore". What feminists were advocating for was for a mother to kill her child simply for her own convenience.
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>>911123
Based RMS is based indeed.
▶ No.911368
>>911362
Yeah, women today don't get to have nerve blockers injected straight into their spine. That doesn't happen at all. And the vagina hasn't evolved over millenia to allow for childbirth. That never happened.
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>>911183
you will burn in a lake of fire for all of eternity heretic
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>>911357
>So he was a retard from day one
Correction he was autistic since the beginning.
>It always was a problem,
Time proves you wrong.
>Death during childbirth was an exception, not the norm.
You need to go back to school.
> it was called "not being a whore"
Please just stop with that bullshit by "being a whore" you mean having more than one sex partner.
>What feminists were advocating for was for a mother to kill her child simply for her own convenience.
No these are your own views and you are completely putting aside other facts, what about woman's who were raped ? what about accidents ? what about down syndrome or other plagues the baby could have after birth ?
You are justifying the decadence of people because modern/western society let woman have choice over having a children or not which is preposterous decadence comes from multiple factors and from my experience seeing what happens to unwanted children raised by unwilling parents it's one of these factors.
The decadence that you seek to eradicate has from my point of view three known roots:
-Too much distraction.
-Lack of education.
-Violence over discussion.
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>>911385
Take this shit to /pol/ or /leftypol/ or wherever you come from.
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>>911385
Add a fourth:
-Misinformation, beveling in fallacies and bias.
>>911388
mfw anon can't even know on what side other anons are when the anon in question isn't in the black or white zone.
>>911401
Stop with the nazi bullshit he isn't a nazi.
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>>911408
oh the little nazi doesn't like being called out :^(
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>>911414
Dude you breath air just like him which makes you and myself a nazi too.
This thread is going down because of christfags and polfags
▶ No.911445
>>911423
and you're defending nazis which makes you a nazi
▶ No.911447
>>911014
>>A few months later, a beautiful and clever but rather too forceful woman asked me to be her lover.
Stallman x nagatoro doujin when?
▶ No.911448
>>911054
>I swear to god you fucking baptists and SJWs are the same fucking people.
That's because the first self-described social justice warrior was none other than Father Coughlin.
▶ No.911544
>>911085
>AVOID JOKES ENTIRELY
▶ No.911548
>>911005
As you indicated, he is kinda cool tbh desu.
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>>911085
>childbirth is "far more traumatic than having an abortion".
Stallman is a kike after all
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>>911565
>Farting a gorilla log out of your queef hole is less physically traumatic than getting a coat hanger twisted inside for a better signal.
▶ No.911592
>>911581
>getting a coat hanger twisted inside for a better signal.
Can you hear me now?
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>>911182
>against murdering innocent children
>nazi
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>>911738
>isn't even conscious
>murder
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▶ No.911991
>deemed offensive
clearly not the reason it was removed as you continued to quote the article.
are we really doing clickbait now? this might be what finally makes me leave /tech/
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>>911291
Nobody cares about the joke. We care about who's in charge of projects. Nobody who works on free software appreciates being suddenly bossed around by people who aren't paying them.
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>>912029
>still projecting
▶ No.912050>>912091 >>912103 >>914660
>>910997 (OP)
Why? The joke doesn't even make sense.
Why would you put weird, autistic, non-sequitur jokes like this in documentation anyway?
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>>912050
It shows a lot about how Stallman thinks about his work and what really matters: politics. It's not about the software; that's why he stole the ABI from UNIX and paraded his GNU around as GNU NOT UNIX but still passed it as UNIX substitute. Really gets the nogging joggin.
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>>912091
Very true; he also completely failed to understand what made UNIX good (picture related).
What GNU should have done was write separate tools to implement features they wanted - not aggregate them into simple programs like ls/echo.
These programs are also supposed to keep quiet unless the user asks them to say something or unless there is an error. GNU programs in contrast print their warranty information/license each time you run them, and if you make a typo they spew the manpage at you.
Perfect example: https://gist.github.com/pete/665971
The GNU code is less readable than assembly. GNU cat(1)? 12 options. Plan 9 cat(1)? 0 options - yet you can still achieve all the same features through piping and using programs to do what they were designed for.
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>>912050
>The joke doesn't even make sense.
It does, though it's obscure for non-Americans and those who don't follow abortion politics. It's also not that amusing. But Stallman is quite taken with his own sense of humor. He thinks he's very funny.
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>>912091
Why doesn't he find a better name than "Free Software"?
Skype is "free software".
▶ No.912294>>912325 >>912387 >>912497
>>912286
Because English is a shit language that doesn't have a word for what Stallman actually believes in.
▶ No.912297
>>910997 (OP)
API documentation shouldn't have non-specification information. Not even examples. Man pages aren't really even good when you take out all the useful info. For example POSIX has a lot more info about any libc stuff. But lol fuck formalism when you're using the most unsafe ghetto PL in existence.
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>>912286
heh. He should call it "Stallman's Own Brand of Modifiable and Redistributable Software".
>>912294
you mad bro?
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>>912091
>It shows a lot about how Stallman thinks about his work and what really matters: politics
It shows that he's autistic af and that he has humor.
>. It's not about the software; that's why he stole the ABI
>stole
I guess that software patent isn't a problem to your eyes.
Why would RMS renamed everything in coreutil ? it would only have made devs and sysadmins mad
>why is CP named cheese pizza I just can to make a copy
>why is MAN name manual it ask for 3 more letters
>why is RM is named remove kebab I just want to delete files and folders.
>why does RM have two different commands ? RMF for files and RMD for directories.
Why did RMS use a similar working system in GNU ?
Maybe because it was the most viable way of doing it without too much problems at that time.
>>912099
>he also completely failed to understand what made UNIX good
Implying the unix way is the only good way and everyone not respecting it to the core is satan himself.
Reminder that RMS was the only ones who had the balls to try to make a microkernel OS (strangely micro kernels respect more the UNIX way than a monolithic one) and nobody followed him because of shitty reasons.
>GNU programs in contrast print their warranty information/license each time you run them
It is at the end of the manpage and maybe because it would cause legal dysfunctions if they weren't showing it. Blame the laws not the software.
>and if you make a typo they spew the manpage at you.
Dam it's really a problem when you get help.
>Perfect example:
>busybox
>>912103
>though it's obscure for non-Americans
Even for Americans this jokes is 20 years old at time when the normal feminist movement tried to have legal rights to choose to have a children or not.
This fortunately is now the standard and shows a time when people were not master of their life.
> It's also not that amusing
Not in 2018, people change.
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>>912398
>>It shows a lot about how Stallman thinks about his work and what really matters: politics
>It shows that he's autistic af and that he has humor.
It's honestly even simpler than that. RMS's joke is really just an excuse to shit on the government, which in turn embodies hacker culture's "rebel spirit".
Critics are conflating the validity of Stallman's political views with the fundamental purpose of Stallman's joke: to be a fucking joke. Something that humanizes us and keeps us from objectifying each other and being cruel under the pretense of any well-intentioned but ultimately abusive power structure in this case, social justice, but it could have easily been political correctness or rudeness or anything. Jokes are like coal mine canaries for when a paradigm founded on good intentions becomes the very thing it was seeking to destroy.
▶ No.912429>>912434 >>912438 >>927516
Someone shadowbanned my post here? All ya'll /pol/cks are going to the gulag for that.
▶ No.912434
>>912429
>shadowbanned
Post it back and lets see if it get removed.
▶ No.912438
>>912429
There are no shadow bans on this website.
It goes against the principles it stands for, but more importantly, it would be absolute hell to implement with the way the software is structured.
▶ No.912469>>912470 >>912489 >>912494 >>912511
Apparently, they've just updated RMS' Geek Feminism page:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Stallman
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>>911777
So killing leftists isn't murder? Good to know, anon.
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>>912469
Alpine dev is probably making the geek feminism wiki
https://pleroma.site/notice/424255
>Stallman's refusal to listen to and consider feedback from women, going all the way back in the 1990s, is one of the main reasons why the gender gap is several orders of magnitude wider in FOSS than it is mainstream CS.
>This is also what is meant by "keeping people out of FSF." They (women as a collective whole, I am aware there are exceptions) do not feel welcome there, because historically feedback from women (as a collective whole, again I am aware of exceptions) has been ignored by Stallman.
>The people in question being kept out are those who feel discouraged about participating there, because if you have a complaint about something it will likely be ignored because Stallman's ego is more important.
>It is bad leadership when one's own ego comes before the collective.
>One of the reasons why ESR was so successful in dividing the FOSS movement was because of Stallman's tendency to put his own ego before the good of the collective movement. This of course, does not mean ESR is better, he too is a piece of shit in his own right, and I say that having regretfully worked with him before.
▶ No.912490>>912495
>>912489
wait is alpine poz?
▶ No.912494>>912498
>>912469
Is that website satire? It's pretty funny if so.
▶ No.912495>>912498 >>912500
>>912490
It seems so.
https://pleroma.site/notice/424847
>I started a business with @TheWilfox@mst3k.interlinked.me and some others to build a modern free software business that intends to tackle the desktop problem directly.
>By using Alpine as a starting point, we have a clean slate and can start building what we need without any legacy GNUisms that no longer make sense today.
▶ No.912497>>912509 >>912516
>>912294
He could call it Libre and never use Free again.
He could call it Free Source so that people actually know FOSS involves source.
He doesn't realize that the most important thing in a political movement is making sure people know what the fuck you're talking about.
Instead he tries to redefine the entire English language on top of his already monumental task.
Low IQ Jew.
▶ No.912498
>>912494
>Is that website satire?
Unfortunately no.
>>912489
>>912495
Topkek
>we have a clean slate and can start building what we need without any legacy GNUisms
>we are going to be building a Qt-based desktop
▶ No.912500>>912503
>>912495
Targeting that <1% user base with a distro made for routers. hmm
▶ No.912503
>>912500
>made for routers.
And adding binary blobs and only using GPLv2 licensed software and only using software that's made by people who have the same ideas has there etc...
I love the bullshit about how MS is going to pull a EEE that's not new but alpine is helping the EEE in it's own way they only see the problems that they want just like a business.
▶ No.912509
>>912497
>Free Source
No, that misses the point of free software. The software itself needs to be free not just its source code.
▶ No.912511>>912512
>>912469
> Geek Feminism
Is this ran by the same people who run the Rational Wiki?
▶ No.912512
>>912511
Seeing how it's the same bullshit probably.
▶ No.912516>>912517
>>912497
>Libre and Open Source Software
>LOSS
lol
▶ No.912517
>>912516
That would be the greatest thing of all.
It's a fucking coincidence with RMS's abort joke.
▶ No.912560
>>912398
>Even for Americans this jokes is 20 years old at time when the normal feminist movement tried to have legal rights to choose to have a children or not.
>This fortunately is now the standard and shows a time when people were not master of their life.
You have a bizarre conception of recent history. Roe v. Wade was 45 years ago (1973). Stallman's much later joke was about a specific type of law that tried to prevent healthcare providers and others from sharing information about certain aspects of abortion or their availability, but placed no restrictions on the procedure itself (which would have been unconstitutional). The
>normal feminist movement
As opposed to the abnormal feminist movement? What a strange turn of phrase.
>tried to have legal rights to choose to have a children or not
decades before Stallman made his little joke.
Please go to your local library and check out some history books.
>Not in 2018, people change.
As someone who was alive and politically aware when the joke was written, I don't think it was more than mildly amusing back then, either. It's a bit of a groaner.
▶ No.912572>>912597
>>910997 (OP)
RMS is great to poke fun at and all but both his software and licenses have caused so much damage.
>>911003
>it's a joke not a political message.
It was just a gas chamber joke guys its a joke! LOL CANT YOU SEE!?! There is no political message there.
▶ No.912597>>912601
>>912572
RMS is great to poke fun at and all but both his software and licenses have caused so much benefit.
▶ No.912601>>912786 >>926023
>>912597
>benefit
you mean bloat, bugs, and infections?
▶ No.912632>>912635
>>910997 (OP)
I must be fucking retarded, where's the joke?
▶ No.912635>>912636
>>912632
Why don't you follow the links and find out.
▶ No.912636>>912640
>>912635
>The abort function causes abnormal program termination. This does not execute cleanup functions registered with atexit or on_exit.
Is is the abnormal termination part?
▶ No.912640>>912641
>>912636
>Future Change Warning: Proposed Federal censorship regulations may prohibit us from giving you information about the possibility of calling this function. We would be required to say that this is not an acceptable way of terminating a program.
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▶ No.912645
>>912641
program = baby, termination = abortion
▶ No.912786
>>912601
How does a license cause bloat, Roka?
▶ No.912789
what granpappy RMS says
should stay
solely for luls
fuck these h8rs
▶ No.912795
>>910997 (OP)
The last man standing.
▶ No.912800>>912840
>>911003
It was both a joke and a political message, they aren't mutually exclusive.
▶ No.912831>>912840
Remember when people in tech had a sense of humour and enjoyed finding hidden jokes in code? We used to put them in everything and had a jolly chuckle at them. Now it's all SUPER SERIOUS BUSINESS and any sense of personality or humanity must be removed.
▶ No.912840>>912927
>>912800
> they aren't mutually exclusive.
True but if RMS would have wanted to make a political sentence you would have a interjection moment not a cheap sentence.
>>912831
>Now it's all SUPER SERIOUS BUSINESS and any sense of personality or humanity must be removed.
This.
Lets see what based community manager Linus Torvalds has to say about professionalism.
https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137392506516022&w=2
>The thing is, the "victim card" is exactly about trying to enforce your particular expectations on others, and trying to do so in a very particular way. It's the old "think of the children" argument. And it's bogus. Calling things "professional" is just more of the same - trying to enforce some kind of convention on others by trying to claim that it's the only acceptable way.
>if you want me to "act professional", I can tell you that I'm not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearing a bathrobe. The same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm *also* not going to buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because THAT is what "acting professionally" results in: people resort to all kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their normal urges in unnatural ways.
Linus
Stallman is based because he does not go against his freedom principals.
Torvalds is based because he has a no bullshit policies.
▶ No.912927>>913017
>>912840
Torvalds is a huge faggot sucking microsoft's cock.
▶ No.913017
>>912927
>cuck license that does not respect my freedom
▶ No.914660
>>912050
Because you are yourself a weird, autistic joke of a human bean.
▶ No.921298
>>911085
why just now.. that shit has been there over 20 years and no one has cared..
▶ No.925528
>>912489
>historically feedback from women (as a collective whole, again I am aware of exceptions) has been ignored by Stallman
White people of /tech/ let us unite against the GNU movement, Stallman has rejected feedback and patches of white men in the past, therefore he hates whites! That slimy jew!
▶ No.925538>>925551 >>925565
Abortion is good (it's about freedom of choice).
GLibc is bad (add strlcat/strlcpy fuckers).
▶ No.925551>>925565 >>926009
>>925538
>it's about freedom of choice
You could say that about anything though.
<People should be allowed to murder because it increases their freedom of choice
<People should be allowed to rape children because it increases their freedom of choice
<People should be allowed to steal because it increases their freedom of choice
<The government should be allowed to spy on its citizens because it increases their freedom of choice.
▶ No.925565>>925575
>>925538
>>925551
That's why freedom of choice is only fine until you're affecting someone else.
So abortion and murder (same thing), rape, theft and government spying are definitely out of the picture.
▶ No.925575>>925578 >>925726
>>925565
So... The freedom of denying service to someone based on thier sexual preference?
▶ No.925578>>925599
>>925575
businesses have always enjoyed the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
▶ No.925599>>925600 >>925602
>>925578
So what's the civil rights act of 1964 again? Does it not apply?
Then again what do you mean by "right"?
I've seen people use that word willy nilly when talking about these subjects and it just seems meaningless.
▶ No.925600
>>925599
It seemed like another case of Robinson c. Flordia but whatever.
▶ No.925602>>926026
>>925599
>the term given to a right or privilege that if challenged is supported in court.
Businesses enjoy the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
▶ No.925726
>>925575
This falls a bit into technicalities but the service provider didn't initiate the action. They can choose to comply with the other's request.
▶ No.925779
>>911177
BASED
A
S
E
D
>>912006
When was anyone under the impression they owned the project? They're a maintainer, they can't just do whatever the fuck they want. If they wanted to replace the whole glibc manual with pictures of their period, because ART and FEMALE EMPOWERMENT, we would know to put our collective foot down. Why, then, when they want to break things in more subtle ways is it alright?
▶ No.925788
Stallman's political opioions are just parroting Chomsky, like all self proclaimed liberals before social justice became the norm. Theres no reason to take him seriously on anything not related to software.
▶ No.925795>>925994 >>926027
>who is Raymond Nicholson?
>check commit
>there's an airmail.cc address
Uh guys? That's a https://cock.li email address. I think everyone's missed an important part of this whole debacle:
This fucker is an anon.
He might be here, lurking this thread, right now. I don't think this was ever actually about abortion. The salt, the bickering, the project's internal fighting, /tech/ losing its mind, Stallman having to defend himself and a censorship joke, SJWs virtue signalling, the reaction was the entire intent of this commit.
You've all been played like a fiddle. This commit was a troll.
▶ No.925994
>>925795
>the fucker is an anon
He's more likely a reddit user who found himself on 4chan and learned about cock.li at some point.
▶ No.925998
>>911004
>Abortion literally scars the insides of the uterus making each following pregnancy more risky.
Good.
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▶ No.926001>>934977
>>911011
>we owe the infinite amount of potential children the right to come into existence at our expense
▶ No.926009
>>925551
anon:dindu raped my girlfriend and she's pregnant what should we do.
christfag:be a cuck and raise him as your own abortion is a sin you know.
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▶ No.926023
>>912601
What's the weather like in Redmond?
▶ No.926026>>926076
>>925602
legal =/= ethical
▶ No.926027
>>925795
no shit he's an anon. probably a /pol/tard as well. why the fuck else would he be triggered by an abortion joke?
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▶ No.927174>>927180 >>927181 >>927183 >>927206 >>927326
Sorry for hijacking a RMS thread, but it's tangentially relevant and the thread was drowning anyway.
This answer https://workplace.stackexchange.com/a/113661 is a threat for software freedom. Edits to remove offensive language targeted at FS supporters are rejected for no valid reason, comments (even upvoted ones) are deleted.
If you have a stackexchange account, I encourage you to downvote it (if you can), and flag it as offensive.
in addition it's also full of bullshit, but that's not our problem
▶ No.927180
>>927174
…and if you can't downvote, but can upvote, it's maybe a good idea to upvote most of the other answers.
▶ No.927181>>927184
>>927174
>shitexchange
Who fucking cares let it burn down
Rules don't apply to anyone we don't like
▶ No.927183>>927185
>>927174
that thread is fucking retarded
if you're that desperate to convert your faggot latex resume into .docx just use google docs ffs.
▶ No.927184>>927190
>>927181
some people read it anyway.
free software must be defended everywhere where it's seen by large amounts of people. (unless it's completely hopeless, like fecebook which censors stuff completely arbitrary, etc.)
▶ No.927185
>>927183
I'm not disagreeing with the lack of value of the whole thread.
▶ No.927190>>927192 >>927206
>>927184
Shitexchange is hopeless. You'd be better off trying to fix /tech/ but that is almost hopeless because the admin is a retard who won't remove any shitty moderation, and even if he does he replaces it with equally shitty moderation (see /pol/).
▶ No.927192
>>927190
Well the [linux] tag wiki edit (with appropriate usage of GNU where it should be) was approved, so perhaps it's not completely hopeless yet.
▶ No.927206
>>927190
>>927174
I don't know if that's you or not, but that horrid answer was finally yanked, congratulations
▶ No.927222
>>911181
Giving birth is not a cancer risk factor.
Giving birth does not statistically reduce fertility.
You're just a lying sack of shit.
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▶ No.927326>>927525 >>927527 >>927552
>>927174
<no archive
What did it say?
▶ No.927516
>>912429
Well are you new here?
>>>/leftypol/
▶ No.927525>>927527
>>927326
It was saying that only free software zealots try to keep using LaTeX when someone asks them to give a resume in Word™. In contrast to "normal people".
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▶ No.927552>>927553
>>927326
>>927527
What the fuck, someone undeleted it
▶ No.927553
▶ No.934624
I interpreted stallman saying "Childbirth is far more traumatic than abortion" as him saying that abortion is a pain-free escape route for women and that childbirth (and by extension, parenting) is far more traumatic. It doesn't seem like he's defending abortion in that statement, but the joke itself does seem to defend abortion and criticize the US government for considering the restriction of information relating to abortion. RMS also stated that is more relevant now than before, likely as a reference to the Trump Administration.
▶ No.934977
>>926001
That's just the spearhead to avoid the discussion about what the fuck to do with the "think only of the current time" africoons.