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>please shit all over my privacy and do whatever you want with my personal data

I bet you use BSD too, faggot.

>>910103

>let's give the same states that raid people's homes for hurting muslim feelings the ability to fine AT LEAST €20millions any website that logs ip the wrong way (ie websites that compete against google and facebook or any website that criticizes EU policies, especially migration)

I bet you're naive and a cretin

What is this and how is it relevant to programmers?

>>910105

>any website that criticizes EU policies, especially migration

that has absolutely nothing to do with breaking the GDPR, dumbass.

What's GDPR?

>inb4 google it

No. I'll google it after you tell me what it is so I can shove any mistakes you make back into your face. Go.

>>910188

Global Democratic Peoples Republic, its one of those conspiracy theories.

>>910188

GDPR is General Data Protection Regulation too, not to be confused with the German Democratic Republic.

>>910207

> conspiracy theories

So it is a tangible threat to our freedom/livelihood/well-being that is being widely ignored because it is just too scary to think about? Got it.

>>910215

Aren't the "General Data Protection Regulations" a good thing to happen in Europe, as opposed to what happens in USA? "Right to access" and "Right to erasure" look pretty good as stated on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

Is this a thread made by nsaburgers and cianiggers shilling against freedom and privacy of EU citizens?

>>910188

A new pro-consumer law. Websites are required to be more specific about what data they collect, give their users the option to not agree and give them the option to delete it.

>no explanation

>just FUD

shit thread

>>910188

It's a new pro-consumer yet anti-business law that's supposed to be all about for privacy but as a down side many services just stopped serving EU citizens because of how expensive and/or complex it is to comply with.

Here's a list of some example companies that either withdrawn from EU market or shut down their services completely:

> Verve (online marketing)

> Ragnarok Online (online game)

> Super Monday Night Combat (online game)

> Unroll (email subscription service)

> Brent Ozar Unlimited (software supplier)

> Tungle (gaming software provider)

> Drawbridge (cross-device identity service)

So yeah, the whole hate for GDPR comes from the fact that it will hurt the small business, from what I understand.

Data protection officer of a small european non-profit organisation here, ask me anything.

The only really bad part is there was a paragraph about requiring automatic scanning of user uploaded stuff for copyright infinging and illegal material and it's not at all clear whether that means checking md5 or expensive advanced shit like youtube does.

>>910233

Frequent complait is nobody knows what the rules mean in practice, because much of it is a bit vague. My guess is, many companies that pulled out will wait for judicatures an d for the rules to clear up and then return to the market.

>>910238

>it's not at all clear

IIRC, they want all services to build a database of copyrighted works and check the user-generated content against it. There's also a "link tax", which is completely fucking retarded and makes Creative Commons illegal. Wasn't this from another document though?

>>910233

>because of how expensive and/or complex it is to comply with.

It actually isn't. Tell your customers what data you're storing, for what reasons and for how long, who you're giving this data to, and what their rights are, and you're good.

>>910238

>there was a paragraph about requiring automatic scanning of user uploaded stuff for copyright infinging and illegal material

Sauce or BS.

>>910241

same

>>910240

>Frequent complait is nobody knows what the rules mean in practice, because much of it is a bit vague.

Compared to other laws, it's pretty straight forward.

>>910245

I haven't actually read the whole document, just judging from the news.

>It actually isn't. Tell your customers what data you're storing, for what reasons and for how long, who you're giving this data to, and what their rights are, and you're good.

Wasn't there more though? Like, the fact that clicking "I Accept" doesn't imply user's consent.

>same

> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/european-copyright-law-isnt-great-it-could-soon-get-lot-worse

> https://creativecommons.org/2018/03/29/head-copyright-committee-wants-deny-eu-creators-right-share/

> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180406/17265539586/latest-eu-copyright-plan-would-ban-copyright-holders-using-creative-commons.shtml

>>910248

>Like, the fact that clicking "I Accept" doesn't imply user's consent.

There's no more legalese fine print for users. Information on what happens to their data has to be provided "in a concise, transparent, intelligible and easily accessible form, using clear and plain language". Also users always have a right to revoke their consent no matter what the terms of service say.

>links

I'll read them, thanks.

>>910233

> Here's a list of some example companies that either withdrawn from EU market or shut down their services completely:

> Ragnarok Online (online game)

A quick Googling tells me that you're talking out your ass.

>>910252

I guess you just suck at using Google® Search. Literally the first link in the News section: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/317050/Ragnarok_Online_shutting_down_European_servers_after_14_years.php

>>910126

It does, if they enforce it selectively against people they don't like.

>>910245

Telling your customers isn't enough. You need to delete all data that is no longer needed, including in backups, or you can get a 20 million fine.

And you need to be able to tell exactly where all data went at every single point to be able to do that. And you need to be autistically specific in describing the purposes for which you're going to use data.

Not impossible for a big business focused on tech, but good luck being a local mom&pop store storing emails and addresses of your customers and then sending them off to a printers to do some advertising. Sure, there's no more legalese to go through for users, but it makes it punishingly hard to deal with data for anything that isn't a massively funded startup or giant company.

>>910279

>You need to delete all data that is no longer needed, including in backups,

>And you need to be able to tell exactly where all data went at every single point to be able to do that.

>And you need to be autistically specific in describing the purposes for which you're going to use data.

Sounds reasonable, pretty much what I would expect of a new privacy law desu.

>good luck being a local mom&pop store storing emails and addresses of your customers and then sending them off to a printers to do some advertising

Either tell your customers beforehand or don't give their data to random people. What's difficult about that?

>>910245

http://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2016/EN/1-2016-593-EN-F1-1.PDF

Though it seems that it's not part of GDPR.

>>910295

Forgot to specify, it's article 13.

>>910105

>WAHHHH I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION ON HOW I TREAT MY USEERS!

when americucks will stop sucking corporate cock?

>>910286

>tell your customers beforehand

Again, that is not enough. You need to be able to tell them exactly where their data is and who has it. As in, point to a computer and go "it's in this exact machine". And you need to do that for the guy you're handing it too.

>don't give their data to random people

So sit in your basement writing addresses on envelopes for a week straight instead of hiring someone that owns a machine to do it? Does that sound remotely reasonable to you?

I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was only addressing companies with a worldwide revenue in excess of 50 or 100 millions.

>>910093 (OP)

Who cares about European internet if there's not European people remaining?

>>910326

>You need to be able to tell them exactly where their data is and who has it. As in, point to a computer and go "it's in this exact machine".

That's bullshit. Read the law.

>And you need to do that for the guy you're handing it too.

Also bullshit. Read it.

>So sit in your basement writing addresses on envelopes for a week straight instead of hiring someone that owns a machine to do it? Does that sound remotely reasonable to you?

Yes, it does. Don't send out unsolicited spam to people. Don't give people's data to others without their consent. Both are asshole things to do. If you'll want to send advertising to your customers and you don't have a printing machine, you'll know that when you collect your customers' data.

>>910105

Web sites shouldn't log anything at all.

>>910103

>i send my data all over the place to 50 different social media and advertising websites. they should promise that they don't do anything bad with it!

kys

GDPR may be going to far but it is solving the privacy issues even if heavy handed

>>910224

The right to report the jew > "The right to be forgotten"

>>910248

>Destroying Creative Commons

>Law can be used to target the right

>>910384

>The right to enslave the jew with debt > "limiting interest rates"

good goy

>>910233

That's excellent: comply or get the fuck out. The void will be filled again, no worry about that.

That should be the same with tax evasion. Let all of these companies get the fuck out of here. New companies made by fellow citizen will take the place.

>>910237

Yeah, it's the fault of the honest peoples who don't have the time to do a lawyer's job and that are sometimes imposed by social norm to use these medias. Friendly reminder that the federal reserve and nearly every central bank are private.

Fucking liberal.

>>910328

56%

>>910432

taxation is theft, darkie

>>910340

>no logging ip

How the fuck do you want to stop spamming attacks and attackers?

>>910449

>taxation is theft

Yeah, you're the one kind that wants to change the rule that have worked for milleniums.

>darkie

Wait, is a communist calling me black?

>>910509

at_least_I_still_have_the_constitution.264

>>910449

>>910509

Dont_know_how_capitalsm_work.jpg

>>910093 (OP)

So can I just lie on my Google and say I'm an EU citizen and they have to stop spying on me? How can I, as a US citizen, use these new rules to help myself?

>>910540

Mask your IP.

>>910552

255.255.255.255

amidoinitrite?

>>910561

ba dum tss

>>910340

>>910475

GDPR doesn't forbid logging of IP addresses. You just have to tell users that you're logging them, for how long, for what reason, on what legal basis and who they can complain to. You also have to delete them after a reasonable amount of time (for IP adresses 1 or 2 weeks are recommended).

However in some countries there's no law allowing you to log IP addresses, so that's kind of a grey area. But as this is a common thing to do, no one will go after you if you delete your logs after a few days.

>>910552

Don't these protections extend to people who travel outside the EU as well?

>>910227

this

>>910233

>So yeah, the whole hate for GDPR comes from the fact that it will hurt the small business, from what I understand.

Small business don’t have the right to fuck people over just because there small. People should know what there getting into.

>>910237

>The organization who forced Greece to privatize most of there economy is Communist.

>>>/reddit/

>>910613

You don't understand, how can small businesses compete fairly, if large ones write the law!

>>910689

>GDPR written by large businesses

Did you even read the law?

>>910720

I wasn't talking about GDPR or even europe for that matter, dummy

why would anyone defend this atrocity?

>>910093 (OP)

>it will destroy internet

And nothing of value was lost.

>>910772

Sadly.

>>910224

>>910233

Fuck off yuropoor

>>910093 (OP)

Can't they take up to 4% of total revenue from any company that breaches the regulation? This shit is hilarious dude. Apparently the majority of companies will have to spend millions to comply with these standards. Good luck to whoever tries to operate a business that handles user data in Yurope when you have to comply with every request for what data you have on them and where it went. I think the most dangerous regulation is specifying how companies have to present T&Cs in layman's terms. This is idiotic. The reason way "legalese" exists is because common spoken language isn't specific while many laws require specificity. If some middle-aged black woman can't figure out what a "cookie" is and how it "tracks" her then your company may be at fault.

The "privacy scandals" and recent facebook "scandal" have shown one thing, it's that regulators don't care if companies provide people the knowledge and option to take care of their privacy. What matters to these regulators is what happens to the average person. The average person is a fucking retard who can receive a pop-up every day reminding them precisely how to change their privacy settings, they can be told that if they play that gay little facebook game then their information will be harvested but they don't know what it means.

>>910332

>284x160

>3:24

>5.69 MB

What retard rendered this?

>>911646

>[semitic screeching]

>>911707

It's probably the audio track

sounds like a bunch of redditors made a regulation. its going to turn into a tool to censor like a lot goverment regulation

>all this yuros defending a fucking reddit law

If I get plastered and make an ass of myself online, do I not have a right to force everyone to forget what I said? Sounds to me like I do and everyone must comply or else.

>>911689

>muh BIG corporations

>"But these laws affect anybody trying to start a business"

>who cares!? muh BIG corporations don't deserve rights! I'm a brainwashed puppet!

>Start a business? What's a business? I want to work for a big corporation. I want to regulate BIG CORPORATIONS. Who could disagree with me?

>>911928

WAIT

How does this law differentiate between the personal data collected by one platform and the posting of this data on another platform without that named user's consent?

>EU user posts name on twitter

>Some random posts that EU user's name and picture on 8ch

>EU user can now force 8ch to take down all this info and give him a summary of all info about him?

>this is all irrelevant because there was no initial lawful basis for processing on 8chan's part

>>910233

You will be able to delete your private data and its bad?. Fucking shill.

>>912069

Take this shit to /leftypol/ and /pol/

>>911944

8chan is not hosted in the EU and the company that runs it is not incorporated in the EU, and none of the people who run it live in the EU or (to my knowledge) are citizens of EU member nations. Why would 8chan give a fuck about this law?

>>912077

Whatever this is tries to subjugate all companies outside of the EU who gather the information of EU members including email under it. Good luck getting through the Supreme Court. They have better things to do faggots.

But its probably because there is a cheeky clause in their saying:"BTW we own you"

>>912085

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>911937

>telling users where, what, why and how long the information they're storing is hard

>being able to write and read data in your servers about a specific user is possible, but deleting that data is impossible and can't be located at that point

Wew.

>>911944

If you've been doxxed or someone posts information or content without your permission, you can force websites to remove them. Be it 8chan or xvideos.

It's always been like this sonny, most people don't know they can do this, don't have the money to hire a lawyer or they don't know they've been doxxed. Welcome to the real world.

>>912115

>If you've been doxxed or someone posts information or content without your permission, you can force websites to remove them. Be it 8chan or xvideos.

Only if you own the copyright to the content. That's why 8chan takes down nude selfies of girls when they make a DMCA request. They own the copyright to their own selfies.

You don't own the copyright to your address. 8chan is under no obligation to take it down if it is posted.

>>912116

Spotted the anclap

>>911908

>>912077

You have to follow this law if you want to be open to EU citizens (it counts as your offering being aimed at a group that includes EU citizens unless you specifically prevent them from accessing your service), or you get a 20 million fine that can be enforced through various legal treaties. I wouldn't feel so safe unless you're very familiar with all the international treaties your country has signed.

>>912117

>wants dox to be taken down

fuck off of every imageboard ever made

>>912117

I stated facts. And just like other facts, like water being wet and your mother being a whore, my knowledge of them says nothing about my political orientation.

Do you understand the difference between a descriptive statement and a prescriptive statement?

>>912131

>or you get a 20 million fine that can be enforced through various legal treaties.

Name them.

You should also read this: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/30509/how-are-gdpr-fines-actually-enforced-for-us-companies-with-no-physical-presence

Enforcing the GDPR outside of the EU is going to be very difficult. As it should be, frankly.

>>912131

>not a citizen of the EU

>operate website with forum for 3 decades

>suddenly at risk of fines from country I'm not a citizen of

I'm not worried anon because they aren't going to extradite me or anyone else to face charges.

>>912547

Furthermore I own multiple raifus and I'm an upstanding member of my community so even if they requested it my local Government would just tell them to fuck off. But assuming they didn't I'm happy to shoot at them and turn it into a Bundy Ranch situation.

All I'm seeing are cucks rolling over like the cowards they are. The EU is a joke and everyone knows it.

>>912131

We're talking about the same faggots that are still trying to relugate muh piracy.

I tell them good luck. Only really big companies that have something to lose are going to comply to their scheme.

>>912550

Can't stretch this enough. The EU are a bunch of spineless cowards. Instead of dealing with the problem in a rational way they do what they do best..

Create a overly complicated law that will be ineffective and counterproductive.

Meanwhile zuck, the goolag and datamining inc., are laughing all the way to the bank as they find loopholes in the law to keep their ways intact.

At the end of the day as usual only the EU citizens are going to get fucked over by this.

>>912553

>At the end of the day as usual only the EU citizens are going to get fucked over by this.

Exactly, but they'll cuck the rest of the world to go along with it. What will end up happening is every site will have some type of retarded pop-up to warn you that they're harvesting data. It'll just be an annoying "feature" that you'll be forced to implement in any type of website that allows for user interaction. It's COPPA on steroids.

They are not going to be able to enforce fines for this outside of major players but they won't dare fine any major player because they are all tied up with the Five Eyes anyway. This is just for show. I am amazed by how everyone is just willing to go along with it though. People are so spooked about losing their adsense money that they're willing to sell their souls to keep it. I've slowly watched people that advocated for speech in the 90s turn from opposing the Great Firewall of China and hating on Microsoft for begin "the borg" to bending over backwards to appease Google. These same people were some of the first ones to use SEO tactics but not they're butt hurt because their websites are going further and further down the search results.

Forum administrators are some of the biggest lolcows on the entire internet. If you don't believe me just go to the forums they hang out on. You'll see plenty of folks that don't know the first thing about how a computer works smugly giving advice on everything /tech/. They've all been namefagging for almost 3 decades now too yet they wonder why disgruntled users can so easily dox them.

>>912599

>type of retarded pop-up to warn you that they're harvesting data.

Thats not how GDPR works. You cant force people to opt into everything for the service, you cant put any terms in an agreement, and if they later want to opt out you have to let them. The alternative is not being allowed to operate in Europe.

>>912553

>Create a overly complicated law that will be ineffective and counterproductive.

Nigga you didn't read it. There's nothing complicated about the GDPR.

Come back when you've read it.

>>912602

>The alternative is not being allowed to operate in Europe.

If they want to build a firewall to keep their slaves from being able to access my server then that's fine by me. Yes, I know the law has something stupid about VPS access in it too. Not my problem. I'm happy that the EU continues to make-up stupid non-laws to piss off their populations. I'm sure they'll be dealt with sooner rather than later.

>>912604

>Come back when you've read it.

For any anons interested the law itself is comprised of 11 chapters, 99 articles, and tons of BS. You can find the full text here: https://gdpr-info.eu/

The TL:DR version: Cuck EU makes cuck law for show that is unenforceable but everyone is losing their minds and reddit thinks it's a great idea.

>>912547

You aren't going to be extradited, there's systems to collect fines directly in place in many countries, to cover cases like a tourist getting a parking ticket and fucking off back home without paying.

>>912612

>unenforceable

Yeah Europe cant do anything at all for all those physical offices and employees that major American tech companies have all over the continent. American tech executives never go to Europe, nothing could possibly be done to them.

>>912609

>If they want to build a firewall to keep their slaves from being able to access my server

What are you talking about?

>>912612

It's nicely structured so you know what parts apply and which do not. Most small companies can skip the second half.

>>912613

Still not convinced I'll be fined. If you're not a cuck and don't pay the fine the next step is going to court which means they're going to have to extradite me or hold it in my local court where the law does not apply. Either way being I'm not a citizen I've not violated their laws. A parking ticket is not comparable because in that case a law was broken on EU soil.

>>912614

I'm not those people. I'm a free citizen of a nation outside of the EU, that's never stepped foot within the EU and doesn't operate a business within the EU. I do not automatically fall under EU law just because some EU citizen accessed one of my web servers.

>>912619

>What are you talking about?

The law is said to apply when an IP from the EU accesses a server anywhere in the world assuming I'm collecting personal data (which is defined as something as simple as an IP address). It is not my responsibility to block traffic from them, if they don't want citizens accessing my server then they'll be forced to build a firewall like China and block the traffic on their end.

>It's nicely structured so you know what parts apply and which do not. Most small companies can skip the second half.

Or they can just ignore it entirely because it's a dumb law that is unenforceable.

>>912623

>I'm not those people

Then you don't matter. No one gives a fuck about your tiny company or meme website. This IS ENFORCEABLE for almost every site that any normie would use daily.

>>912624

>No one gives a fuck about your tiny company or meme website.

Then how come everyone else in the same boat as me with 20+ years of user data stored in multiple databases losing their minds over this? It does affect everyone including meme websites. Don't pretend it's just big business. I'll repeat my point again; EU LAW DOES NOT APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE EU. If you can't see why this is both retarded and an effort by a corrupt Government that's attempting to fine people that are not their citizens then I don't know what to tell you. This is NWO-tier fuckery and if people would simply not be cucks and laugh at them for attempting it we'd all be better off for it. Instead we're going to end up with so many restrictions in place that no one but the big players will be allowed to operate anything beyond a static website. What I'm saying is you don't let them set the precedent.

>>912539

The fact that you started those supposed facts but made no mention of any other laws whatsoever makes me believe you're an ancrap whose idol is property rights and who thus believes you only have a right to your data if it's copyrighted. You're pretty transparent.

>>912627

>It does affect everyone including meme websites

Why? Do you have a euro office? Lol.

>Don't pretend it's just big business

It only matters for big international firms

> I'll repeat my point again; EU LAW DOES NOT APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE EU.

Google and Facebook have a bunch of offices in the EU. Your shitty meme site does not.

>that no one but the big players will be allowed to operate anything beyond a static website

No we wont. You just said so yourself. EU law only applies to the EU. Unless you don't actually believe what you just said.

>>912623

>It is not my responsibility to block traffic from them,

Yes it is. Or comply with GDPR (it's as easy as not collecting data).

>if they don't want citizens accessing my server then they'll be forced to build a firewall like China and block the traffic on their end.

They won't because their citizens are free to access legal content as they like.

>>912628

> believes you only have a right to your data if it's copyrighted

Sure you have a right to your data. And if you want to keep your data secret don't post it to Facebook. That was hard!

>>912630

>Yes it is. Or comply with GDPR

Why? What the fuck are they going to do? I don't have a euro office. They think they rule the whole world when they don't.

>They won't because their citizens are free to access legal content as they like.

Then they will freely access my site where I will freely track them without telling them.

>>912633

>Why? What the fuck are they going to do? I don't have a euro office. They think they rule the whole world when they don't.

Article 3 "Territorial scope", 2.:

This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to:

(a) the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union; or

(b) the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union.

>>912629

>>912628

>>912630

It's almost like the EU is doing damage control any time someone mentions how retarded the GDPR is.

>Why? Do you have a euro office? Lol.

>Lol

Thanks for letting me know you aren't from here.

>It only matters for big international firms

Horseshit

>Google and Facebook have a bunch of offices in the EU. Your shitty meme site does not.

Yet I have multiple users from the EU so as written the law is supposed to apply to me.

>No we wont. You just said so yourself. EU law only applies to the EU. Unless you don't actually believe what you just said.

Twisting my words doesn't take away from my point. They start with the GDPR to see what they can get away with then they move on to implementing more things. Everyone with a brain knows the EU is intended to expand until it's the world wide Government. They openly operate with that mindset and it shows considering how they oppress their own citizens.

>Yes it is. Or comply with GDPR (it's as easy as not collecting data).

No, it isn't my responsibility to block access to my web server because some retarded law written half a world away by people I didn't elect says I should. Also, "not collecting data" is near impossible with the way they've set-up this law because just logging an IP is considering harvesting personal data. Again, if they're that worried they're free to set-up a firewall and block my server. Until such time it'll be open to anyone that feels like accessing it.

>They won't because their citizens are free to access legal content as they like.

Define legal content and don't use cheese pizza as an example. People living in the EU do not live in a free nation. Openly share holocaust memes over there and see how long it takes before they throw you in jail.

>>912638

You totally missed what I said read it again. If China globally bans telling Chinese about the tiananmen square incident that has nothing to do with me chatting online to chinese when I both don't live and will never go to china.

>Thanks for letting me know you aren't from here.

I'm not a euro.

>Horseshit

You said yourself it cant be enforced internationally.

>as written the law is supposed to apply to me.

And? You are not in Europe You think Chinese law applies to you when you never plan to go to China?

>Everyone with a brain knows the EU is intended to expand until it's the world wide Government

LOL. The EU has no chance vs USA or the Chinks. IDK what you are smoking.

>No, it isn't my responsibility to block access to my web server

Then don't.

>because just logging an IP is considering harvesting

Oh no changing my log format is so hard

>>912643

After the first line is intended for >>912639

>>912623

>hold it in my local court where the law does not apply

It can. Your local court will judge you based on the EU law. That's actually a thing for the exact same tourist reasons.

>>912639

>No, it isn't my responsibility to block access to my web server because some retarded law written half a world away by people I didn't elect says I should.

Yes it is. Alternatively, you can stay the fuck out of the EU and any country that has an extradition treaty with them. You're free to choose.

>Also, "not collecting data" is near impossible with the way they've set-up this law because just logging an IP is considering harvesting personal data.

Want me to look up the nginx configuration for you?

>Again, if they're that worried they're free to set-up a firewall and block my server. Until such time it'll be open to anyone that feels like accessing it.

They're not worried because why would they be?

>>They won't because their citizens are free to access legal content as they like.

>Define legal content and don't use cheese pizza as an example. People living in the EU do not live in a free nation. Openly share holocaust memes over there and see how long it takes before they throw you in jail.

Legal according to the law. There's no other definition of 'legal'.

>>912646

>tourist reasons.

I'm not a tourist in Europe. Thats not how it works unless there is an international treaty for something.

>>912647

>extradition treaty with them

Bullshit. Most nations refuse to extradite individuals for acts which would not be considered a crime locally.

>you can stay the fuck out of the EU

No reason to go there anyways. The place is a poor shit hole.

>Want me to look up the nginx configuration for you?

How about you stop using sites that don't respect your freedom. I guess EU citizens have no agency and are sheep.

>Legal according to the law

Some other law in some other country

Some definitions from Article 4:

(1) '‘personal data’

means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that natural person

(2) ‘processing’

means any operation or set of operations which is performed on personal data or on sets of personal data, whether or not by automated means, such as collection, recording, organisation, structuring, storage, adaptation or alteration, retrieval, consultation, use, disclosure by transmission, dissemination or otherwise making available, alignment or combination, restriction, erasure or destruction;

(7) ‘controller’

means the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal data; where the purposes and means of such processing are determined by Union or Member State law, the controller or the specific criteria for its nomination may be provided for by Union or Member State law;

(8) ‘processor’

means a natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which processes personal data on behalf of the controller;

>>912648

And I'm saying there are very likely international treaties with your country(assuming you don't live in the third world). They got established because of tourists. They don't just apply to tourists though, they also apply to you.

>>912650

Should I quote Chinese law here? Let me spam laws of all these other legal jurisdictions that don't apply to me. Let me get my copy past action going for more irrelevant law.

>>912651

>there are very likely international treaties

Not for anything. Its for murder not fines.

>>912651

Extradition treaties don't apply to literally every law.

>>912654

I'm talking enforcement treaties for fines (like parking tickets), not extradition. And they usually exist if there's a significant number of tourists of one of those countries visiting the other.

>>912655

>that it can be

For companies in Europe. Like Google and Apple and Facebook. Not your shitty meme site.

>I think the EU and China

You totally missed the point of that one.

>I know an attempt at a world wide Government

You can see the attempt but you are real bad at judging odds of the victor.

> I care about your opinion on the matter.

If you didnt care you wouldnt be wasting your time arguing with me about it. And yet here you are.

>It isn't hard

I'm glad we agree.

>I'm just not doing it for retarded reasons

Same reason i'm not doing it

>you've just lost the argument

That the GDPR is enforceable for major tech companies and irrelevant for everyone else? Where exactly do you think that happened?

>>912649

>>extradition treaty with them

>Bullshit.

Good for you. Then do whatever you like in wherever you are.

>>you can stay the fuck out of the EU

>No reason to go there anyways. The place is a poor shit hole.

Keep telling that to yourself.

>>Want me to look up the nginx configuration for you?

>How about you stop using sites that don't respect your freedom. I guess EU citizens have no agency and are sheep.

The issue is that there's no obvious way to tell which sites are respecting our freedom and which are not.

>>Legal according to the law

>Some other law in some other country

What's not to understand about "They won't because their citizens are free to access legal content as they like."?

>>912652

I'm certain there are EU posters in this thread who'd like to discuss the matter.

>>912655

I'm not >>912643 but holy shit that's a ton of bullshit. A blind man can see the butthurt in your post. Keep telling to yourself that your country isn't completely kiked.

>>912659

>I'm talking enforcement treaties for fines

If you are a USA citizen and get a speeding ticket in Europe you don't have to pay it.

>I'm certain there are EU posters in this thread

EU posters don't have a choice because they are in the legal domain.

>Then do whatever you like in wherever you are.

Thats the plan.

>Keep telling that to yourself.

LOL

>there's no obvious way to tell which sites are respecting our freedom and which are not.

Almost every site you use has a terms of service that tells you what they do. Its not hard.

>>912666

>Keep reddit spacing those replies

I have never have a reddit account in my life. Its a habit from different text formating and programming languages. Maybe you would know that if you actually knew shit about tech instead of larping.

> You've missed every point I've attempted to make

Such as?

>I'm not going to waste any more of my time arguing with an obvious shill.

OHHHHH BTFOOOO OBVIOUS SHILLL HE SAYS

>BTW my shitty meme websites make your yearly income in 2 months.

My dad works at Nintendo to man.

>This law is designed to steal money from people like me

How are they going to steal from you if its not enforceable. You still don't get the contradiction in all this? LOL

>anime posters being retarded

>>912666

Delete IP logs after a week and that's it. If a user request you to delete the data you've got about him, delete it. Don't sell user data unless they give you permission to (which is by clicking "I Accept.")

Wow, so fucking hard. You gonna need trillions of dollars to do this shit; big bad EU is gonna take your money and your guns.

>>912672

>Wow, so fucking hard

I'm not going to do shit just because eurocucks tell me to. I want all that data for myself.

>>912673

Don't come here. Don't go anywhere where you can be extradited to EU for this.

>>912631

There's manufactured data like photographs and text and in that case you're right, selective sharing is the way to go. But there's also intrinsic data like biometric and inferred data, over which you have no control and which should be at your sole and complete mercy because it's part of the things you can't change about yourself. This is what this whole hubbub is about, in the end.

>>912676

>Don't go anywhere where you can be extradited to EU for this.

There is nowhere you can be extradited for things like this.

>>912677

>because it's part of the things you can't change about yourself.

And this changes things how?

>>912677

Oh no I cant change my DNA so 23AndMe should be banned from storing it!

>>912678

>And this changes things how?

Because once that kind of data gets shared without your consent you're probably going to receive physical or moral damage for the rest of your life, because it will always be true.

>>912681

>Because once that kind of data gets shared without your consent

How can facebook share it without my consent when I don't post it on facebook?

>>912679

Up until now storing==selling, which is why this attempt has been made.

>>912683

>Up until now storing==selling,

Then don't give it to them?

>>912682

You're the master hacker who knows to block cross site requests from the page you're visiting to facebook et similia but the overwhelming majority of people have a perceived expectation of privacy which leads them to not even begin to consider the fact that they may be watched by somebody else than the people in the URL bar, let alone want to combat that. This is to protect those people.

>>912672

I'm not deleting shit because someone told me to do it. I log IPs for various reasons and I'm not rewriting code just because the EU told me too. Like I said, if they don't like their citizens coming to my websites then they are free to block them just like I'm free to give my users various ways to defeat the block. Just like I've done multiple times in the past, mainly for Chinese users that have to work around the Great Firewall. IP addresses are just the tip of the iceberg anyway, some of my websites collect lots of data including credit cards, shipping address, names, and other things of this nature. We have secured all of this to the best of our ability and things have worked fine over many decades. We're not throwing a monkey wrench into working code just because some idiots in the EU passed a law. Stop pretending people like me are lazy because we don't want to comply. It has nothing to do with work ethic and everything to do with the fact that this is a useless law that doesn't even apply to me.

>>912687

>but the overwhelming majority of people have a perceived expectation of privacy

How about you spend 30 seconds and tell grandma that anything she posts online can be recorded.

Basic computer literacy is a requirement for the modern age. You think people should go drive cars when they cant spend half a day to learn the basics?

>>912687

> which leads them to not even begin to consider the fact

They must live under a rock and never watch the news then.

>>912687

>THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!

>>912685

You're not giving them just your genome, you're also giving them all the information they can get from analyzing it, that of others, and building data points from computing their similarities and differences. That's how they confirmed the khazar hypothesis.

>>912693

>all the information they can get from analyzing it

Then don't give it to them. Or if you actually care go to a service with a ToS saying they don't store it. You don't actually care enough though.

>>912690

Yes, we can tell our grandma and all our families, but how many of us are around? And of our relatives, how many even have the capacity to understand what we're talking about? Yet those people also have a right to not be damaged by the sharing of their intrinsic data.

>>912691

Facebook's scandal was only this year

>>912696

You're right. Its impossible to teach the population that what they email is recorded.

>>912697

Totally wrong. A SCANDAL was this year. Facebook has had several big ones. And there are dozens of other tech companies with the same thing.

>>912694

You keep telling me to read the TOS but how many sites have those? 23andme was just an analogy, we're talking about the web here.

>>912700

> but how many sites have those

Every site that you type your personal info into and make an account with.

>we're talking about the web here.

GDPR is not something that just applies to the web.

>>912697

There have been multiple scandals that have proven it was a bad idea to share things on social media. The Fapping happened years ago and people still post nudes on FB all of the time. Normalfags do not care no matter how often you drill it into their heads that sharing personal data is a bad idea. This law isn't going to stop their stupidity. The same Grandmas that told children not to share their real names online in the 90s all signed up for facebook with their real names a decade later. The law will not solve this problem.

>>912699

No, not just emails, and if you're the master hacker you claim to be you know this, and have just tried to minimize the amount of data one website can collect, and this leads me to believe you're a paid shill by the usual suspects.

>>912702

I have explained it to them before. They say "oh yeah thats scary" and 5 minutes later post a selfie.

>>912703

>No, not just emails

Obviously

>and this leads me to believe you're a paid shill by the usual suspects.

Anyone that wants more laws shoved down everyones throats must be a shill

>>912702

The fappening was about cracked icloud accounts so that has nothing to do with this

>>912704

I know anon they do me the same way or they say you're paranoid. You have to understand that normalfags are like Goldfish, they only remember something for about 3 seconds before falling back into their usual patterns of behavior. Normalfags do not care about who or what has their data.

>>912705

>panic

As expected. Run along now.

>>912706

>the fappening had nothing to do with personal data leaking for everyone to see

Whatever you say...you can't really be this stupid. If you are I hope you never breed.

>>912710

This is to limit the sale of intrinsic data, which is a whole different issue from cyber security.

>>912701

>Every site that you type your personal info into and make an account with.

And none of the sites which monitor cursor position, page advancement, link hover, text selection, link navigation and more, all linked to the social media accounts you're logged in but whose owners show no affiliation to the website you're currently navigating.

>>912715

It's easy to claim yourself the victor if you proclaim the opponent's arguments to be intrinsically wrong

I'm European and the faster EU crashes and dies the better. Besides I'm making a bank with fullstack+sql skills right now. A lot of small companies here will have to cease operating and do something else, which accelerates this dystopian bullshit regime's downfall greatly. Can't wait for riots to start. I'll be funding Sweetie Squads with monies earned from working on making companies GDPR ready.

>>912716

You have no argument yet you've replied to this thread over and over again to shill for the GDPR/EU. Don't let me stop you, please continue reddit spacing, saying lol, and telling people you aren't from the EU when I mention these things and say you aren't "from here". You've done a great job of looking retarded thus far.

EU LAW DOES NOT APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE EU.

>>912741

Of course you can keep repeating your mantra ad nauseam, but don't think it makes you credible

>>912643

>>912655

>>912659

>>912639

>>912643

>>912660

>>912663

>>912668

>>912701

Our burgerfriends don't understand the difference between applicability and enforceability.

So much heat, so little light ITT. What the EU is attempting to do, in its own cumbersome and clumsy way, is assign private property rights to an individual citizens data, formalizing and codifying those rights with a means of enforcement/penalties if/when those rights are seen to be infringed or breached. This probably won't work as envisaged (what does these days?) with all sorts of unforeseen consequences emerging but at least it is an attempt at defining the 'data as property' rights of individuals.

Now, who here objects in principle to individual citizens exercising their private property rights over their data??

#DataSlurpIsPropertyTheft

>>912803

You type like you need to lurk moar

#AnonSucksCocksForBreakfastLunchAndDinner

>>912811

>You type like you need to lurk moar

#NotAnArgument

>>912714

Cursor position and page advancement and most of those other things are not personal information under gdpr or usa law.

>>912775

Stay mad eurocuck. Your data is mine.

>>912867

For now

>>912867

>"personal data" means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that natural person

So if you link cursor position or page advancement to an IP address or a unique cookie, it becomes personal information.

>>912760

>>912760

>Of course you can keep repeating your mantra ad nauseam, but don't think it makes you credible

When I started replying to this thread last night the board was dead and the thread only had 90 posts. As soon as I hit that button multiple posters showed up that obviously weren't from here and didn't even understand what I meant when I said that (they assumed I thought they were from the EU). I'd say an immediate influx of shills showing up any time someone mentions that this law can't be enforced leads plenty of credibility to what I'm arguing.

Don't pretend like I haven't attempted to have an honest discussion here. No one would reply with counter points that disagreed. They copy/pasted the law and came with reddit-tier tactics like you're doing to avoid having an honest discussion.

Since you're so enlightened please explain how EU law can be enforced outside of the EU. I'll even make it easy for you: Show me how EU law applies to a US citizen. If you bring up "trade agreements" cite them and then cite precedent of them being enforced against a small business (not google/faceberg). I've been waiting for any of you to post this information since last night.

You won't post it because you can't cite anything because it doesn't exist.

>>912741

I know it sounds preposterous, but I should let you know that even on boards without IDs there can be multiple different people participating in a debate on the same side; I know you're always alone in your arguments, for good reason, and it's alien to you, but it's the truth.

>>912069

>If you hate laws that give giant globocorps an advantage because only they have the overhead to afford to comply with them, you're a corporate shill

>Also I trust my government not to leverage another batch of byzantine regulations against it's citizens (even though corporations are my eternal boogeyman, they wouldn't ever exercise their huge wealth to influence government)

also lol at

>We need this law so that businesses won't be unethical!

>Also the unethical small business you want to start wouldn't succeed anyway, business ethics is essential

This has all the hallmarks of a corporatist leftyfag/cuckservative law; so vague and far reaching that everyone will be in violation of some part of it all the time, but the only ones who need fear prosecution are the ones that run afoul of the political establishment and their paymasters.

tldr; kill yourself faggot

>>912888

>a unique cookie

Wrong, unique data is not personal information even under GDPR. Only when tied to an email address or a name or something like that does it matter. Tracking cookies are fine.

>>912910

I am not OP and you euro fags can fuck off.

>>912910

>Still doesn't have an argument

>Still thinks acting smug convincing anyone

I'm aware multiple shills are in the thread faggot. The only organic posts I've seen since last night were from people asking you guys to post anything of substance. There were at least two other anons requesting the same information I was. So far all you've managed to do is

>copy/paste sections of the law that we've already read

>call anyone that didn't agree with you an idiot

>call us lazy/LARPers for not wanting to make the proposed changes

>twisted posts to suit your opinion while avoiding any information brought up in them

>anything and everything but pointing out one fact that supports your side of the argument

This isn't reddit, either post something of substance or GTFO. You aren't going to win any support for the GDPR here.

Once again I'll ask; show me one example of the EU being able to enforce any law they've passed outside of EU jurisdiction. Keep in mind that multiple anons have already debunked your retarded traffic law examples.

Again; You can't because it's unenforceable and there is NO PRECEDENT.

>>912989

The fact that you're still going after the wrong person even after being told you're talking to different people speaks volumes about your dialectics and intelligence. I repeat: you're going after the wrong man.

>>912992

Still no argument? From any of you? Still waiting to hear how the EU, a Government without an Army, can enforce anything. I'm not "going after" anyone I'm still asking the same question I've been asking that no one can seem to answer.

Again; Tell me how EU law applies to non-citizens of the EU and cite an example of them punishing someone outside of their jurisdiction. I'll be here all week.

>>912994

That's not my argument, I have nothing to do with it, why should I?

>>912994

>>912994

Anon some of us are on your side and you still don't realize who you are talking with >>912992 after multiple posts telling you.

>>912994

> anyone I'm still asking the same question I've been asking that no one can seem to answer.

You are literally asking it to the wrong people. We have said this 3 times now.

>>912994

This guy is just a total retard. The people (ON HIS OWN SIDE) have told him 3 times now he is referencing the wrong people.

>>912965

There have been court rulings saying IP addresses are personal information.

>>912902

>>912989

>>912994

Applicability vs enforceability.

>>913076

>There have been court rulings saying IP addresses are personal information.

I am aware. Now which part of that fact contradicts what I said.

>Applicability vs enforceability.

Replace every occurrence of A with B and read theme again.

>>913078

fuck *them

>>913078

>Now which part of that fact contradicts what I said.

If IP addresses are personal information then why aren't tracking cookies?

>Replace every occurrence of A with B and read theme again.

I'm not the one who is confusing these words. I'd like to discuss the gdpr without the "hurr what are they going to do about my 'murican webserver logs!"

>>913015

>>913046

>>913047

>sides

>in an anonymous online discussion

>>913080

>If IP addresses are personal information then why aren't tracking cookies?

I have read the ruling in order to deal with compliance at work. The IP is in CERTAIN CASES personal information because an ISP has a log of IP address and who it was allocated to at a given time that may be legally accessible by the recording party. If I recall the case was actually against a part of the government.

A piece of random data that is not stored in reference to other personal information is not a violation.

>I'd like to discuss the gdpr without the ...

Then say something about a feature you find interesting.

>in an anonymous online discussion

Oh yeah there cant possibly be factions without usernames!

>>910093 (OP)

/tech/ should be for this because it will mean the beginning of the end to the endless stream of blockchain shit being proposed by every man and his dog.

Having an immutable ledger is the antithesis of having the right to be forgotten.

>>913082

>I have read the ruling in order to deal with compliance at work. The IP is in CERTAIN CASES personal information

So did I, for the same reason.

>A piece of random data that is not stored in reference to other personal information is

wishful thinking. I'm assuming there's more associated with a tracking cookie than just a set of URLs and timestamps. I should have said that.

>Oh yeah there cant possibly be factions without usernames!

Of course there can be factions, but taking these discussions too seriously, of which is assuming the existence of factions is the basis, is ridiculous. People call this a mongolian basket weaving forum for a reason.

>Then say something about a feature you find interesting.

I think it's probably the best law of this decade. Well written and useful. But there's one thing missing: imho Those who process data ('processors' and 'controllers') should be obligated to inform those of which they process data about it once a year, provided they can be contacted at all.

Do I not have a right to use electroshock therapy on other people until brain damage makes them forget? Is this not my right?

>>913088

> I'm assuming there's more associated with a tracking cookie than just a set of URLs and timestamps

Most analytics code is just going to have urls, time stamps, cookies, mouse movement, etc. Most sites you browse without accounts wont be affected.

>>913093

>Is this not my right?

If they consent to it

>>913093

This will become really interesting after they declare AIs to be 'electronic persons' (look that term up)

>>910105

>ability to fine AT LEAST €20millions

You are full of shit, but feel free to back up your memes. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32016R0679

>Yahoo is now part of the Oath family. Due to EU data protection laws, we (Oath), our vendors and our partners need your consent to set cookies on your device to use your search, location and browsing data to understand your interests and personalise and measure ads on our products. Oath will also provide personalised ads to you on our partners' products.

>click OK

<It looks as though your cookies are disabled. Please enable and try again.

>click Try Again

<If you are not redirected, click here

>click "here"

<is link to https://guce.yahoo.com/%7B%7BdoneUrl%7D%7D

you stupid niggers. yahoo worked fine with no cookies and JS before, now it has this bullshit. change is bad. always. fuck you retards all over the internet that want sites to have Privacy (TM). privacy was never a real problem. i can handle all my internet privacy problems myself. i was not born in 2010. cookies are bad design and it's much better to browse without them. now i have to write some scripts to get around this gay shit. fuck you

>>910093 (OP)

2 years to implement the changes and, what, almost a decade of trying to fix the original problem (every god damn country in the EU having different data handling law, leading to situations where foreign business were literally forbidden from being used for legal applications because it was impossible to assure they were actually legal), and at the last day, everyone panics. GDPR is a bit more zealous in some aspects, and quite less in others. This will be ultimately good for enterprises, obviously, but as always business shamans are just mad that the supranational gubmint did something.

>>912696

The EU government apparently understands enough to make laws about it. How about they educate the European grandmas.

>>912649

>The place is a poor shit hole

What do you propose then?

USA?

>it doesn't hurt small business

small business is just going to ip range ban the entire EU than deal with this type of bullshit.

kike lawyers will start sueing sites just like they do small businesses in commiefornia who have chipped handicapped signs.

>>910248

Copyright fuckery has nothing to do with GDPR.

>>920337

>they dont have any tech companies

We have a lot of tech companies, just not the ones making consumer level shit. We don't fuck around with smartphones and web apps here. We build things like CERN and ITER instead.

>>920355

The only practical result of the GDPR I've been seeing since yesterday is websites having a huge banner block my path and demanding I explicitly accept them to botnet and datamine me in any way technically possible (at least via web browser) and share any data they get on me with any of their "partners", and if I don't agree then I should fuck off and never visit their website anymore nor ever again talk to them or their family or even their wives' sons.

>muh small business

If you are running a company that runs on the exploitation of user data then your company is employing an outdated business model as of yesterday. You are the modern equivalent of a waste water company that used to dump all the sewage into the nearest lake before the advent of comprehensive environmental protection legislation.

Good riddance.

>>920424

>Collect name and address for payment.

>THAT IS DATA COLLECTION GOY!

>>920427

I'm pretty most people will consent to giving this data. What's your problem?

>>912994

Member states enforce laws on the EU's behalf and states that signed international treaties with the EU (like Canada) will do so as well.

>>920427

As long as your business needs this data to function and you provide a way for the user to request its deletion there is absolutely no problem.

If you however datamine the shit out of your users with google analytics and the likes you are going to have a bad time.

Sounds pretty good to me. Hopefully the (((EU))) will actually enforce it though.

>>920431

They will fine some larger players in order to whip everyone else in line.

>>920424

that's not going to happen at all. all the mega corps will just force

>>920407

they will still exploit your data and goyim will click agree to access their facejew and twitter and jewgle and youtube all day long.

the megacorps can afford to defend against the lawsuits. in the meantime kike lawyers will swarm small website operators, blogs whatever, especially those that have wrong think, and sue them into oblivion for doing such horrendous things as logging the ip address in apache which it does by default. these small businesses will not be able to defend the constant stream of lawsuits in court or afford to pay money to kike lawyers to make it go away, so they will just be forced off the internet.

>>920431

this will only be enforced against people that aren't kosher. i somehow doubt the times of isreal will be getting any lawsuits from datamining.

>>920442

>>920443

Lmao, take your Risperidone, schizo.

>>920446

I's kinda funny how the guy going around calling everybody schizophrenics knows how to treat such a rare condition. Guess he has a lot of experience with it. Maybe he would not see himself surrounded by schizophrenics, if he just took his pills.

>>920448

Watch out! There might be a jew hiding under your bed!

>>920450

That really does not work on imageboards. It just makes you look like a sperg. The smart thing would have been to just ignore a weak insult like that. Now you just gave me another opportunity to call you out for not fitting in.

>>910765

>I wasn't talking about GDPR or even europe for that matter, dummy

Then why the fuck are you talking in this thread?

>>920442

>they will still exploit your data

Of course they will. Didn't you understand what I wrote? They basically openly declare now that they will legally datamine everyone who comes by as much as it gets and sell it to or otherwise share it with whomever they like ("our trusted partners" is a fucking weasel phrase which can practically mean literally any third party), and whoever doesn't "willfully" (that's where they cheat too, the fine print often says that if you close the message by clicking the X in the corner then you have agreed to the terms) accept it should just fuck off as he won't be able to use their website/service/whatever until he has agreed to whatever terms they came up with.

tl;dr the new regulation is essentially something like "from now one theft and cheat and deceit is now legal for as long as you declare your intentions to any victim in advance and the victim does whatever you deem as meaning that they accepted it".

>>920451

The smart thing would have been to shut the fuck up and suck my dick.

>>920144

> change is bad. always.

Kek.

>>910093 (OP)

GDPR is the best thing to happen to internet in the last decade.

>americans don't get the socialized uMatrix

>>912689

>this is a useless law that doesn't even apply to me

Until the EU sues you for 4% of your gross fucking revenue because you accidentally stored Muhammad Abupooinloo's personally identifiable information.

I wonder what stallman has to say about the GDPR, i assume it'll be mostly positive.

>>920494

I'm sure he loves it. It's all kinds of Semitic legalism, which is right up the GPL alley.

Face it. GPDR will prevent being able to dox people, hence you won't be able to release the identities of the people who work in the EU who are doing lots of shady (((stuff)))

this is just the next step of their plan.

>>920549

Does Alex use TAILS?

Also, the governments use Facebook and Google to track people. lrn2prism, lrn2_14eyes

>>920549

>3:00

that was from terminator, dipshit. this guy is fucking hilarious. the camera bit is true though, just he makes it seem fake. he's just diverting attention from amazon.

this guy looks just like a corporate false flag, like the fake nazi radio statons made by uk in ww2

>>920555

alex is balls deep into the botnet. he thinks you have to be a part of it to fight it. this is why he maintains youtube, facebook and twitter accounts and kvetches hard when youjew and jewface inevitably remove his content.

>>920407

This. This is all the privacy circlejerk will ever result in. It's absolutely useless and just makes it more annoying to use any website.

>>920572

>>920512

>>920508

Lolz, now that this ends the debate I wonder how the cuckchan schills will say? I think they just gone now cus butthurt of losing debate.

>>920572

It's created an entire new industry overnight. Now you have meta-tracking. Startups and software services built around tracking each user's opt-in status across all of the tracking services. Additional bundled javascript that wraps around all of the regular tracking javascript to sanitize data and aggregate opt-in options.

>>920589

what a great idea, someone could start a company and release browser plug-in's and app's that will conveniently allow you to opt-in to everything in existence to avoid the opt-in banner ads that every single site on the internet will require you to click.

Internet privacy in 2018

>upload every detail of your life to Facebook

>post personal information all over Twitter

>give Google access to everything you do online, everything you search for, to read your emails, track your location

<Facebook, Twitter, and Google are abusing my privacy!

<How could this happen!?!?!

<it's all their fault!!!!

The best part is, you blame this on the retards that don't stay (at least) semi-anonymous on the internet, liberals start crying you're victim blaming and it's not their fault.

The real answer to GDPR is to forbid your real life name from being used online, unless you fully understand and accept the consequences. But GDPR is not meant to protect people, it's meant to kill start ups and smaller businesses. Mainly because the internet is much easier to control if 95% of the internet consists of Google and Facebook.

>>920619

>>920591

>>920572

>>920589

Now that theres nobody debating this? GDPRshills BTFO

If I'm in the US, or any other non-EU country, and I sell stuff on the internet, but have zero physical presence in the EU, why the fuck should I care if some eurofag buys my shit and I don't abide by GDPR? How is the EU is going to fine me exactly? This is shady as fuck IMO, and it doesn't sound like they have the interests of protecting consumers at heart at all judging by the fines.

20million eurobux? Give me a fucking break. All it is is a cash grab because they know companies are going to fuck up and not properly delete or maintain logs, and woopwoop, free millions of euros for the EU!

Give me a break.

>>920630

your best off ip range blocking the entire EU if you have no presence there anyway. it's not difficult.

>>920619

>(((botnet))) is ok as long as it's small

wew

>>920630

If you don't sell to people living in the EU you have nothing to worry about. If you however sell to people in the EU you have to abide by EU laws.

What is so hard to understand about this?

>>920633

you don't have to sell anything, you can be sued if your site is simple accessible to the EU and you do not comply with the GDPR, which is why the EU must be ip range blocked.

>>910233

>It's a new pro-consumer yet anti-business law

I am just tired of needing to alter my business practices for eruroflake laws. Just edited all of my policies and removed all eurozone shipping options. It is easier than dealing with their ever changing nonsense and threats.

>>920634

If you don't sell anything and none of your servers are located in the EU they can't do anything.

What is so hard to understand about this?

I'm loving all this salt that butthurt Amerimutts are generating. Keep it up lads :^)

>>920641

Art. 3 GDPR Territorial scope

(2)This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to:

a)the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union; or

b)the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union.

irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required

what is so hard to understand about this?

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/

>>920644

i really hope this generates so much butthurt that in 20 years we saturate the entire EU with nuclear radiation

>>920646

Are you retarded? If you are not in the EU, not selling to EU residents and don't have your servers in the EU it doesn't matter if you are breaking EU law because the EU can't enforce it.

>>920647

Why are you muricans always so keen on starting shit with other countries?

>>920641

>If you don't sell anything and none of your servers are located in the EU

it doesn't matter, if your website is accessible to people in the EU and they use it, you are providing a service to a person located in the EU, and payment is irrelevant, you can be sued by these kikes in the United States.

China is exempt and russia will probably tell them to go fuck themselves, but U.S. companies are on the hook.

>>920651

It's EU law not US law. So no, you can't be sued for it in the US.

>>920650

The EU can sue you in the United States via treaty you fucking idiot. Until the U.S. does something about this they can sue a U.S. company from the EU.

>>920654

That sounds pretty retarded to me. Maybe you should change that?

>>920656

you'd think trump would but our cozy relationship with the EU goes hand in hand with our cozy relationship with Isreal. Trump has an easier time shittalking china because their leaders aren't jews.

Who receives the money when a company is successfully sued?

>>920847

It's a "fine" which means it goes straight to Brussels' coffers.

>>920654

They can certainly try. Unfortunately they have no jurisdiction in the US. The worst they can do is go after US companies that do business in Europe.

>>920633

>make website that uses cookies

>doesn't even do anything with the cookies except autofill some field

>gets shut down because doesn't have annoying cookie popup

much botnet. wow. i am really glad internet regulations are saving me from this

>920924

Just add a "store this information in a cookie [what's this?]" checkbox to the forms.

>>920924

The cookie popup is only needed if you use cookies for tracking purposes.

Stop spreading FUD.

>>910571

What the fuck will Wikipedia do?

>>921082

????????????

>>921085

Their system is outdated and shit and IPs are treated as users. If you remove all data about an IP address, you have to remove all bans on it and that IP's edit/ban log. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, this means that people will be able to fuck everything up and then come back some time later. Should they just require accounts to edit?

>>921087

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_IP_addresses

>However, IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked. Many IP addresses are dynamically assigned and change frequently from one person to the next, and even static IP addresses are periodically reassigned or have different users.

Also, Wikipedia has accounts.

>you have to remove all bans on it and that IP's edit/ban log.

You don't. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/

>The data subject shall have the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of personal data concerning him or her without undue delay and the controller shall have the obligation to erase personal data without undue delay where one of the following grounds applies:

>the personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed;

>>920650

>Why are you jews always so keen on starting shit with other countries?

fixed

>>921015

how about you stop spreading "FUD" kike.

show me where in the GDPR where it says

"is only needed if you use cookies for tracking purposes."

it doesn't fucking matter

>>921091

wrong

The data subject shall have the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of personal data concerning him or her without undue delay and the controller shall have the obligation to erase personal data without undue delay where one of the following grounds applies:

the personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed;

the data subject withdraws consent on which the processing is based according to point (a) of Article 6(1), or point (a) of Article 9(2), and where there is no other legal ground for the processing;

the data subject objects to the processing pursuant to Article 21(1) and there are no overriding legitimate grounds for

the processing, or the data subject objects to the processing pursuant to Article 21(2);

the personal data have been unlawfully processed;

the personal data have to be erased for compliance with a legal obligation in Union or Member State law to which the controller is subject;

the personal data have been collected in relation to the offer of information society services referred to in Article 8(1).

>>920876

they do have jurisdiction in the US. via treaty. a kike lawyer in the EU can sue a united states business and via treaty the united states upholds it.

we really need to get rid of nato and declare war on the EU and reclaim our homelands.

>>921145

The GDPR has nothing to do with cookies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie

>An HTTP cookie (also called web cookie, Internet cookie, browser cookie, or simply cookie) is a small piece of data sent from a website and stored on the user's computer by the user's web browser while the user is browsing.

>sent from a website and stored on the user's computer

>stored on the user's computer

>>921146

>the personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed;

The IP address is obviously necessary.

>the data subject withdraws consent on which the processing is based according to point (a) of Article 6(1), or point (a) of Article 9(2), and where there is no other legal ground for the processing;

There is legal ground for the processing.

>the data subject objects to the processing pursuant to Article 21(1) and there are no overriding legitimate grounds for the processing, or the data subject objects to the processing pursuant to Article 21(2);

There are overriding legitimate grounds for the processing.

>the personal data have been unlawfully processed

Wikipedia just has to make sure that they do.

>the personal data have been collected in relation to the offer of information society services referred to in Article 8(1).

It hasn't.

TL;DR: You don't have to delete IP addresses as long as you have told the user that you collect them, what for you collect them and you still need them

Friendly reminder to lards taking a full negative stance on this; this does not only apply to websites collecting user info but to any kind of attempt of storing personal information. Just think of the Equifax shitfest that happened not long ago.

>>921150

are you autistic or something? your first reply is retarded. cookies are used for assigning a session ID to people (which is the basis of most tracking). of course none of this is relevant since tracking can easily be done even without cookies

>>921002

fuck you, you cocksucking faggot. the internet is an anonymous/pseudononymous medium. it's your own fault if your dumbass practices make you lose your privacy. i'm not going to cater to your special snowflake laws. that checkbox serves absolutely no purpose aside for compliance. like i said above, cookies do not imply tracking, and lack of cookies do not imply lack of tracking. they do not even correlate. your dumbass "cookie warning" literally does not increase the user's privacy in any way. it's a muricunt concept created as a result of the privacy circlejerk

>>921015

shut the fuck up, the entire concept of a "cookie popup" is literally FUD

okay, now what happens when i use your resolution, clock skew, user agent, etc (there are actually thousands of examples of such PII on a modern browser) to track you without needing cookies?

>>921728

You are retarded. The cookie law doesn't require a popup for cookies that autofill some shit.

Kill yourself, faggot. Learn to read, retarded nigglet.

>>921729

Are you retarded too. The retarded nigglet was talking about autofilling. The cookie law doesn't require a popup for that.

Of course you can do trackibg without cookies but that isn't what the retarded nigglet was talking about.

>>910188

>being such a loser from the beginning.

>>910340

they can do whatever the fuck they want. of course they shouldn't log IPs, since that serves no purpose, but it shouldn't be illegal. the solution of course is to use a real network like I2P or Freenet, and use Tor for the clearnet meanwhile (i've been doing this for 10 years now, waiting for the clearnet to die)

>>910571

That will never happen you dumbass mongloid. All of the web relies on IP tracking. For example Wikipedia like some other guy here said. For example cuckflare which now covers the entire internet has long term (years? permanent?) ban lists. For example game servers ban IP addresses. Yes these are stupid practices, but the dumbasses who run most of the internet aren't going to stop them any time soon. Most likely the GDPR and every other law just doesn't apply to any of the practices I just listed.

>>921717

Full reminder to turbostatist faggots who actually unironically think law should apply to the internet. The internet is basically the equivalent of a tree fort with a whiteboard that people can write to (but can't interact with each other physically). There's no point in applying laws to it. If you somehow get affected by what someone writes on a whiteboard in a 12 year old's treefort, you're retarded and it's your fucking fault. Internet law is for millenial snowflakes. None of these dumbass regulations affect me in any way aside from restricting what I can do on the internet. I don't use your stupid fucking facebook and google, and don't pretend to care that they log what I do.

This isn't even a statism concept. No state in the last 3000 years would make such a specific protection against such non-problems. No state would sue 12 year olds for calling each other faggots (aside from religious reasons, such as Sharia law, but that is not a "protection", that's ideology). A "protection" has to be something like putting police on the streets to stop robbery. All protections are there because they make the citizens more likely to not overthrow the government. Stopping a website from logging you cannot be classified as a protection. So even if you agree with statism, this is one step further. So you're a turbostatist special snowflake millenial faggot.

>>921732

>reading law

>that applies to internet

>implying internet needs laws

fuck off millenial

>>921736

You probably are the most retarded of all LARPers on /tech/.

>>921741

>being a neet

I hope your parents sue you.

>>920457

Change IS always bad. There are a few changes every hundred years that are home runs. Everything else is bad and thankfully ends eventually. If GDPR lasts more than a decade we'll have been extremely unlucky.

>>910105

yes, retard, because websites that criticize the EU not only are targeted by the law, but they're also not protected at all by the European laws on free speech, which are more extensive than any of the member countries' laws.

>>922120

More laws only means more room for kikery.

>it completely fucks over little companies, only large ones will be able to comply

>this was designed to fuck over large corporations

Which one is it, shills?

>>922170

>Which one is it, shills?

Read it again, literally both.

>this was designed to fuck over large corporations

As all this regulation is

>it completely fucks over little companies, only large ones will be able to comply

But it always does this

>>921736

You can't think in between two extreme ends, now do you, you spastic retard. I did not imply internet should be regulated.

>>910233

>Anything strictly necessary for a service does not need consent boxes anymore. For everything else users must have a real choice to say ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

This sentence describes the purpose of the law. No, it won't hurt any legit small business. It will only hurt the pajeet site operators.

>>921150

it's not the fact that you have to tell the user your collecting the ip addresses, it's the ambiguity that allows for kike lawsuits.

apache logs ip addresses and user agents by default. what if i wipe those logs after 12 hours? what if a user requests those logs? if they are wiped after 12 hours, this means that i can't wipe them after 12 hours, i have to log the fact that i logged those logs and then provide them back to the user, which equates to forced logging.

>>922345

not only that, if I disable apache logging entirely, the server WILL have a record of that ip address at one level of another in ram, which means it's logging the ip address, even if it's for 100ms. what happens if a user requests this data and I can't provide it?

>>922346

If you've deleted data you don't need to provide it on request, nigger.

>>922345

>>922346

Have you even tried reading the law? Because it sounds like you have no fucking clue about the GDPR.

Kill yourself, retard.

To answer your question: https://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/r47.htm

Just delete the logs regularly and you're fine.

>>910103

>regulations that only megacorps can pretend to abide by

GDPR is the best thing that has ever happened to big net companies

>>910103

>I give all my data to corporations and then feel bad when they don't delete it

waahhh wahhh wahhh

>>922394

>GDPR is the best thing that has ever happened to big net companies

Why? Explain.

>>922400

>implying corporations don't get my data from third parties

>>922394

>>922407

Also, before you answer: No, GDPR isn't hard to implement for small companies. Anyone who claims this either has no idea what he's talking about or has a fundamentally broken business model.

>>922409

>Really the small businesses that can't comply should be destroyed while the big businesses keep on going

>>922407

>implying corporations don't get my data from third parties

You mean you gave some other corporation your data

>>922410

Sad that more channers dont see that this is where we going with GDPR...

>>922410

Just sue them 10 times and they lose up to 1/3 of their global turnover.

>>922410

You still didn't tell me how it's hard to implement. Because unlike me, you didn't read it.

>>922411

>You mean you gave some other corporation your data

No, I gave some friends my data who upload their address books and photos to facebook, who have siri and cortana botnets in their pockets and who order birthday presents for me via amazon and have it delivered directly to me.

>>910093 (OP)

>letting the government regulate the internet again

>letting them control the internet

>>912069

>ancapism was quite perfect that the only way mind-controlled authcucks can rebut is through means of humorous depiction

>not liking Smug;The Anarchy

ancap puts the trust of controlling humanity through humanity itself not some secret jewish group of royal families with millenias of authority backed by some edgy templar-knight-assassination-brotherhood

>>910524

>needs_cuck_tax_to_run_economy_but_is_just_slush_for_the_edgies'_ritual_orgies_and_parties.jpg

>gets_cucked_by_marxism_and_jewing_and_it's_not_even_the_final_boss.pdf

>>912715

>EU LAW DOES NOT APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE EU

followers and leaders - follow the leader, my Lainfriend.

>tfw cucked by net neutrality in asia while the entire asianicsphere internet is close or is at LiFi speeds.

>>912715

EU laws affects international law.

>>912803

The right of trading property including data shall not be infringed then. Caveat Emptor.

>>912811

Says the mod in >>>/leftypol/

>>912902

WILLING SUBMISSION BY CORPERATIONS

>>912963

THIS, either make well defined laws that goes under property trade or NONE AT ALL.

>>912989

Never the enforcement, only SUBMISSION.

>>912994

European Army is in the works.

>>913082

No wonder they want to shut down WHOIS

>>913084

We have the right to remember, the end of western civilisation in order to avenge it, you cuck.

>>920144

Off case of government enforced cookies... (((Why would that be?)))

>>920383

Which means it does not matter to the "Goyim". US tech matters

>>920431

>>920442

Megacorps knows the game, and use it as an opportunity to force cookies down you.

>>920453

Barring and tracking.

>>920549

Now you see, it is made to hit the undesirables

>>920589

>>920591

Call /pol/, let them know we found their weak spots (and FUCK THE ROACH)

>>920633

>>(((botnet))) is ok as long as it's small

A fist fight is easier than an army of fags.

>>920650

Moral precedence for APEC, OAS and other pan-national organisations to fuck shit up. TPP.

>>920651

>>920652

Precedence, people, just watch.

>>920654

TREATIES, AND TPP IF THEY REALLY TRIED

>>921736

Finally some sense

>>922419

Lawyer's. Game.

>>922654

Suck it.

t. Taiwanese resident

>>910093 (OP)

Are you shitting me?

>Business processes that handle personal data must be built with data protection by design and by default, meaning that personal data must be stored using pseudonymisation or full anonymisation, and use the highest-possible privacy settings by default, so that the data is not available publicly without explicit consent, and cannot be used to identify a subject without additional information stored separately. No personal data may be processed unless it is done under a lawful basis specified by the regulation, or if the data controller or processor has received explicit, opt-in consent from the data's owner. The data owner has the right to revoke this permission at any time.

Only the data mining Jews disagree with that.

>>922689

>We have the right to remember

>We

>We

>no goy, you don't have the right to make us delete your data, we OWN you goy

Fuck off Google shill

>>922704

We have the right to store data of Google's Kikey shit, and we would like them to stop.. but the "right to be forgotten" law will wipe any kike off the map while CIANiggers have OUR data

>>922610

>I don't think you understand how legal proceedings work.

what's not to get?

>company provably violates regulation

>company gets fined up to 4% of global annual turnover

>then company provably violates regulation again

>company gets fined up to 4% of global annual turnover

>while(company is provably violating regulation)

> ­ ­ ­ company gets fined up to 4% of global annual turnover

>>922369

have you read that what you linked you kike fucking jew shill?

it says nothing about "regularly deleting logs means you don't have to provide them back to the user"

>>922837

You don't have to provide any data to users that you don't have.

>>922610

>Sounds like you need to sue your friends then, not make laws against facebook.

Because who needs friends, anyway? Or relatives, or co-workers...

>I literally did faggot, and then sat down and read interpretations for hours.

You still didn't say anything to support that claim.

>Its not hard to implement, if you don't do anything it talks about. Kind of like every law actually. If you don't do anything listed in it, there is no compliance cost! Amazing!

...are you talking about small datamining businesses? Still no hint of anything hard to implement.

>>922837

You have to give the user the data you have on him at the time of the request. This really isn't that hard to understand.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/right-of-access/

Might I suggest to you to actually look at the GDPR instead of asking retarded questions on /tech/?

>>922893

It's not always that simple. Small businesses sometimes don't HAVE a dedicated full-time webdev team to add features to their site. Adding dialogs and inputs and meta-tracking and request aliases and shit to deal with all of the requirements to become GDPR compliant is a fairly big "feature" addition to a site that didn't already have it. At least a solid week or two of dev work, plus a good amount of QA work tacked on after that.

If all you had to do was write up a disclaimer paragraph saying how you use data, it would be fine, but it's more complex than that.

>>922949

>waaaaaah i want to continue handling PII the way faggots handle HIV

ok. please make sure to block all EU IP addresses.

I have rejoiced, all my shitty cooking blogs that would take 3 hours to load take seconds, and then try to give me a sob story about why I should let them fuck me in the ass by collecting all my info.

>>922949

Why not just not collect info then?

>be browsing tomshardware ironically as part of work on writing paper on how all monitor technology is shit including industry, reviewers, and consumers

>go on tomshardware.com

>oooh, not blocking tor today!

>turn on JS to see an image

>see this:

>We use technology (including cookies) to collect, use and transfer information to support this Site, including for data analytics purposes, as described in this Site's updated Privacy Policy . Your continued use of the Site signifies your acceptance of such cookies. We will seek your consent prior to using cookies for the purpose of targeting advertising. To learn more about how to manage your cookie settings and how to exercise your rights under GDPR please see our Privacy Policy.

2cancer4me

>>922893

no, refer to >>922988

>>922988

oops forgot this part:

>have to go to page 4 to see the image because one page is too long for goy and bad for ads or something

>still can't see image is loaded by JS and it crashed

I work in a business directly effected by GDPR. Do you know what sinister things await our end users? We now just have to document when we get rid of your data and we have to be anally-retentive not to leave someone's email address where someone might possibly find it. Please explain to me the dastardly plot I'm taking part in.

>>910093 (OP)

>pirvacy is a bad thing

I knew /tech/ was infiltrated by NSA niggers, but god damn.

>>922999

Privacy is your responsibility, no one else's.

>>923000

<just don't go on the Internet if you don't want to be spied on, goy!

>>923007

I didn't say. I said it's your responsibility to protect your privacy. No one else has the responsibility or should have that responsibility. If you are incapable as an individual to act within your own agency and keep your private information private, then you failed yourself. If it becomes mandatory that millions of people are required to entrust one entity to protect their privacy, and that one entity fails, then those millions of people have lost.

>>910105

Theres is always plan Z. Full darknet encapsulation. I2P is ready.

>>922893

Because Big Business has lawyers so they know all the loopholes. Also this law excludes government spying done with Google/Facebook.

>>922984

Possibly because small businesses relies on Google/Facebook's services, and they refuse to provide legal help?

>>922999

No dumbass CIANiggers and Google/Facebook already have loopholes in the law, BUT we are the ones how has to stop "remembering the jew"

The EU isn't even a valid political entity, so how can its regulations apply anywhere?

>>923072

They also only have "power" over the countries in the EU itself.

If you aren't in the EU they don't apply to you.

>>923072

>>923102

EU has enough power to push it to TPP-levels, be aware of that.

>>923136

We'll see how much power the EU has in the next italian elections, sometime this fall.

Actual no LARP fullstack webdev programmer from Yurop here. I work for a really small business, like really small, since we are just 4 guys at the office. We make custom administration software for big and small businesses alike. The clienta of our clients were going insane about it for some reason, even though all they use our software for is to order stuff from our clients and all the personal data they have inputted is their email, and their full name if they voluntarily, on their own, decided to use that instead of the name of their company. We log IP in a single website if we happen to receive illegal operations that shouldn't happen normally.

We could give less of a fuck about GDPR because we do not make money from datamining. If one of our few clients decides to request whatever info we have on them, or delete it, we can do it manually on email. Even then, if we do not comply, all we will get is a warning the first time. No need to build some of these hypercomplex privacy control panel interfaces big businesses based around datamining have built. As long as your small business is not based around datamining this is unlikely to be a problem, and if you are a small business based around user datamining you deserve to go bankrupt anyway.

>>923153

What about small business alternatives for Amazon/eBay? Or Gab/Voat/Bitchute? Those types of jobs NEED "datamining" in some sense.

>>923155

Should be real easy to delete from production data (delete all posts, delete user info... all stuff you should already have tools for in case you get hit by a spammer, btw). The only issue would be backups, but apparently they can be stored for a "reasonably long" period, so as long as you keep notes on all deletion requests performed to be executed again in case you have to load a backup amd keep an archive of about a year of backups and prune the older ones you should be fine.

The only people I could think that will have a real hard time with this are MongoDB users, and they deserve it anyway.

>>923013

post URL

>>922949

>Adding dialogs and inputs and meta-tracking and request aliases and shit to deal with all of the requirements to become GDPR compliant

>dialogs and inputs

Not really required by GDPR. Put a 'privacy' link on the bottom of every site and a 'by submitting this form you agree to our privacy policy' under every form and you'll be fine.

>meta-tracking and request aliases

If you put tracking on your web site, you deserve to suffer. You are the botnet or botnet collaborators that people complain about on this board.

>Small businesses

>At least a solid week or two of dev work, plus a good amount of QA work

lol no

>>922995

>We now just have to document when we get rid of your data and we have to be anally-retentive not to leave someone's email address where someone might possibly find it.

good

>>923017

See >>922840

>Because who needs friends, anyway? Or relatives, or co-workers...

>>923170

>Not really required by GDPR. Put a 'privacy' link on the bottom of every site and a 'by submitting this form you agree to our privacy policy' under every form and you'll be fine.

Did you even read the requirements? You explicitly cannot give consent through site use alone.

>>923200

If you only store normal webserver logs for a few days, you don't need consent because you have a) a legit interest in collecting that data (ensuring security of your site) and b) legal permission to do so (in most jurisdictions I believe). If you're an asshole that includes third party trackers or ads, things are different, yes.

>>922753

>but the "right to be forgotten" law will wipe any kike off the map while CIANiggers have OUR data

As opposed to both of them having our data?

Seems like a good start

How does this crap prevent third party pixel tracking and such?

>>923270

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law

>>923276

Do you understand the question? Site X has third party (say, google) pixel tracking. Do they have to make someone agree to it? Even though it's GOOGLE, not Site X, that's really collecting the data.

>>923280

>Even though it's GOOGLE, not Site X, that's really collecting the data.

Did GOOGLE hack Site X or did Site X voluntarily incorporate botnet?

>>923012

It is impossible advice to follow. You must go on the Internet, it's not optional. That's where government weather and disaster updates are, government forms and requirements for anything and everything from getting a driver's license to doing your taxes. It's where college classes information is, good luck knowing where and when your classes and getting the required garbage Google Drive prerequisites for showing up to class.

Fuck your useless bullshit "advice".

>>923281

So do you want to answer the question or just troll?