/tech/ - Technology★

It's a cianigger project, so the proper spelling is all caps.

Why did you have to kill a good tech thread to start this shit one?

>>908380

Every thread that channels more hatred towards systemd is a good thread.

Anybody still using System D is a numbskull, this goes double for any company.

>>908987

>"0day" is not a valid username

pw user add 0day

useradd 0day

>not a valid username

<t. boittering

>validating hostnames is a science of it's own

Have hosts file? -> check hosts file

no? -> have dns server configured? -> do dns lookup

From there you leave the dns validation to the dns client+server.

The whole thing falls apart when you write a dns client into your "service manager", then sell it as a "fast service manager".

>>908302 (OP)

> not just calling it systemdicks

>>909076

shitstormdicks

>>909076

I had a nightmare a few nights ago that systemdicks was killing my family after I left my laptop on over night.

I'm uninstalling Arch later today.

>>909076

>not calling it systemDisease

capital D on purpose

>>908389

To be honest I won't install anything that is not Debian outside of a virtual machine for at least another 2 years. Autistic neets are right about systemd but the alternative solutions doesn't seem to be ready yet, at least for now.

>>908987

ohh xinetd is that one thing i hate from old linux distros. i was trying to remember the name

>CVEs are useless

they're more useful than any of the shit software you niggers have created in your life. without CVE we'd have a bunch of retard niggers jumping around happy because they think their software is perfect

>DNS

DNS or any other webshit shouldn't have anything remotely to do with my OS. keep that shit 500 miles away from me

>moreover the hostname the kernel maintains for the system is used for a variety of things: bluetooth for example and a ton of other things

naming everything that's wrong with MEME/*NIX

>other nuanced details of some shit tier naming system

REEEE

>>908361

SYSTEM//D

>>908987

based Lennart

>>909231

What can Debian do that Gentoo can't?

>>909239

this

Lennart did nothing wrong

>>909246

Reproducible builds

>>909252

OpenBSD is doing random builds tho.

>>909255

>cuck license

>>909257

that's like saying you can uncuck windows by disabling all the telemetry

>An eternal five seconds later, I stood wholly naked before Systemd. I should have been cold. The air handler seemed to be working extra hard tonight, but I felt nothing but heat radiating from my skin. Even the tile's chill on the soles of my feet felt far away.

>>909256

>actual freedom is cuckoldry

>communist GPL is true freedom

This is a classic example of libtards redefining the language to suit their agenda. The GPL is provably less free than the BSD license.

>>909393

Indeed. The GPL relies on rms's arbitrary, idiosyncratic definition of "freedom."

>>909397

Once again demonstrating that one requires massive doses of Marxist Kool Ade to think that an objectively less free license is more free than an objectively freer license.

Thanks for proving my point.

>>909395

Good old newspeak, where freedom is slavery.

>>909398

The GPL sucks.

>>909435

It's really not a problem, let them license their code any way they wish. It's the fact that it's become a Marxist religious cause as well as a software license that's the problem.

>>908380

>good thread

>on /tech/

No such thing

>>909398

>please use my work in your proprietary program!

cucklicense defenders are mentally ill

>>909538

True freedom means your work can be used in proprietary software.

>>909546

Do not collaborate with proprietary botnet meanies! >_<

>>909546

>let me take your free software so i can sell it back to you goy

>>909547

I'd tell people not to collaborate with gay retards larping as agendered anime faggots in addition.

>>909549

Man anon, your greentext changed my mind. I am going to release all my shitty software as GPL so people can enjoy my shit as much as I enjoy it.

>>909562

>boys

Not even 3d soyboys look like that. Face it, you're posting agendered triggerkins while sucking 6,000,000 cocks every day.

Reminder:

The GPL is considered harmful:

http://gng.z505.com/cult.htm

http://gng.z505.com/stallmanism.htm

http://z505.com/GNU-Violation-Press-Release1.htm

http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=Please-Stop-Using-GNU-Licenses

http://gng.z505.com/fsf-gnu-site-bug.htm

I'm glad other people have been posting this website lately. Stallman claimed OpenBSD "has non-free software" because he failed to understand the ports system - he also was completely ignorant of how Theo has railed against blobs for drivers (they still are fighting against them now, even though Linux has given up - Theo even got an award from the FSF).

http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2006/04/27/openbsd-3_9.html

>Can't steal what's given away for free.

>The fact that people can use BSD software in proprietary projects is an unavoidable side effect of the fact that you can use BSD software in *any* software project, including any free license.

>GPL is incompatible with so many free licenses it's not even funny. It's even incompatible with itself. If you've ever had to deal with software, one GPLv2 and the other GPLv3+ (copyright owned by the FSF who refused to relicense), you would hate the GPL too.

>Fuck the FSF for promoting incredibly long lawyerese-packed licenses. Fuck the FSF for promoting AND USING nonfree licenses like the GFDL and CC-BY-ND. Fuck the FSF (indirectly through the SFLC) for pushing monetary settlements for Busybox lawsuits instead of actually getting useful code contributions.

>How many Linuxfags know about OpenBSD's work reverse engineering wireless drivers and pushing vendors to open up documentation? How many know about OpenBSD standing up to the IETF for pushing patented protocols and OpenBSD's patent-free alternatives like CARP? Heck, their beloved FSF even recognized Theo for it back in the early 2000s - but ever since has worked to sabotage BSD's reputation in the free software community for "promoting nonfree software." What bullshit.

Programmers write code, not licenses. If you're still using the P.O.S (Poettering Operating System) that is Linux today, you're beyond saving.

>>909567

this is a pasta go fuck yourself

i've read it at least 5 pentillion times already

>>909572

>charge charge charge charge charge

Free software is not about price

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

also your post is mostly gibberish nonsense

>>909565

no i didnt mean soyboys I mean boys! -_-

>>909575

you < soyboys < girls < boys < real men(tm)

>>909575

Typical GNUtard.

http://gng.z505.com/common-criticisms.htm

"GNG recovered my 10 dollars that I paid to the cult member for a FREE cd. They claimed the FREE cd was not FREE, but that it was FREE. Freedom was to cost 10 dollars. At one point I bursted out in laughter and hit my arm on my face a few times in error. But then they got me. It was like they somehow took me over at that point with their brainwashing and the FREE 10 dollar linux cd. They threatened to not offer any "free" support ($1200 extra). I said how can you restrict me from free support? That is not freedom! But I just started lying to myself, believed whatever the GNU cult stated, word for word, eye for nipple. The guy in the red hat took my credit card numbers. I blindly followed GNU, and got my friends in too, and big corporations. But "GNG is not GNU" got my money back and recovered me via their debrainwashing meeting! We are working on my friends still.. most of them are fu-bar."

>>909579

nothing in that meanie rant disproves the point. It sounds like the writer was a brainlet who didnt know what he was talking about or doing for that matter.

>>909577

no im above soyboys cause i dont drink/eat soy

>>909582

It doesn't matter whether you drink or eat soy. You still manage to have a frightfully low testosterone level. And you're gay as well.

SYstemD is cool kids. Use it on all your computers. It makes them run faster. It makes them run faster than painting them red.

>>909582

What is this "point" you absolute fool?

>Are people morons? Either way, this won't hold up in the court system, and your lawyer would have to be retarded to interpret the license in such a way that FREE OF CHARGE doesn't apply to the software, but the process of licensing itself. Stallman, in his personal interviews, documented as quotes all over this site, has admitted several times he wants a FREEWARE society, without money, and he put it right in his license. People have the nerve to criticize GNG as misinterpreting the "license" when in fact it is the GNUtard cult members that have misinterpreted the license to mean whatever they want, depending on the time of day and how drunk they are.

This is also required reading:

https://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org/msg04542.html

>>909590

>he wants a FREEWARE society, without money, and he put it right in his license

umm

>be me

>uwu

>go to https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

>CTRL+F

>type freeware

>"phrase not found"

ok then

>>909593

>durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

You do realize that just because Stallman the autistic communist who eats shit off his foot doesn't use the exact word "freeware" it doesn't mean he does not want everyone to give out software for free. The search term "free of charge" would be much better. But I guess the faggot larping as an agendered blob wouldn't understand.

SystemDumb

>>909393

some fag is butthurt because he couldn't use GPL code in his dating App for dogs

>>909586

remember kids:

>a conversation goes to shit precisely when the word "dopamine" is mentioned

this applies to testosterone as well

>>909590

>he wants a FREEWARE society, without money, and he put it right in his license

<he wants a consumerist cuck society so he can make a living being a "software engineer"

>It obviously rips off as many Unix ideas as it possibly can without breaking the law, and it is highly compatible with Unix.

this is cringe because UNIX is shit and any idiot making his own OS is bound to independently invent a few concepts from UNIX

>>909627

im pretty sure RMS is okay with selling code as long as the source is made available. either way, selling code in compiled form because you unironically believe it offers some sort of security, is retarded. also licenses are retarded in general (inc GPL but its useful pragmatically)

>>909747

>okay with selling code as long as the source is made available

So basically you can charge people to compile your program for them. Someone is inevitably going to compile their own version and release it for free, or for less cost.

>selling code in compiled form because you unironically believe it offers some sort of security

Selling code in compiled form can potentially offer security from people who want to distribute your program for free, because in compiled form the program can enforce restrictions such as requiring a license key etc.

Personally though, I'd rather not charge for any money and depend on altruism because white people are generous enough for that system to work.

>licenses are retarded in general

>it's retarded because I don't understand it!

>>909742

>t. Mr Low-Test

>>909751

I don't disagree with you that releasing programs for free is good. I do however disagree with Stallman when he says "you can sell free software". This statement is bullshit for obvious reasons. Yes, you can theoretically sell free software, but you would get almost zero money.

>>909759

What you do is sell free software for a profit. If it costs $20000 of your time to develop, then don't sell the software for anything less than $20000. That is how you profit selling free software.

>>909768

>what is CentOS

These companies do not get any money selling software. They only get money for offering support. It is a viable business model for them, but not for small companies or individuals.

>but not for small companies or individuals.

This is viable for all small companies and individuals.

>>909771

How? I cannot offer support for any distro by myself. Even if I did, I'd get only $20 per day because without huge funds for advertising, my distro would be rarely used and even rarely would someone need support.

>>909774

So don't offer support for a distro that you can't support. Offer support for a distro that you can.

>>909756

>So basically you can charge people to compile your program for them. Someone is inevitably going to compile their own version and release it for free, or for less cost.

are you trying to say something here?

>Selling code in compiled form can potentially offer security from people who want to distribute your program for free, because in compiled form the program can enforce restrictions such as requiring a license key etc.

t. senior business analyst lead architect

>>licenses are retarded in general

>>it's retarded because I don't understand it!

no, licenses for programs is moronic concept except maybe in some special business to business cases with contracts. normal people just ignore the license and do whatever they want with software. even when publishing code on the internet, unless you're part of the pedantic autist cult of the free software movement, most people just use whatever code they want however they want in their projects without knowing or caring what a license is

>>t. Mr Low-Test

nevermind, you're retarded as fuck, should have just ignored your entire reply

>>909768

The best example you could come up with are two companies that don't make money selling software. Stop being an idiot about this issue, you're making yourself a lot less likable.

>>909866

>implying agendered gay animebloblarperfag was ever likeable to begin with

>>908987

This is worse than a pajeet web developer. Even pajeet web dev knows he must sanitize input and never trust anything a user does. I can just see it now

>yes "INSERT INTO system_d.users (username, password) VALUES('$_REQUEST[username]', '$_REQUEST[password]')" can lead to SQL injections, but the web form only accepts certain characters that prevent SQL from being entered

>nothing to fix!

Poettering is worse than a pajeet web developer. The fact that he's actively making a decision that it's quicker to skip validating user input and not worth slowing it down terrifies me, specially with all the bragging they did about systemd boosting so fast when it first came out.

>>909888

Basically it's fast because it cuts corners.

>>909538

>YOU CAN'T HANDLE REAL FREEDOM YOU FILTHY GOYIM

Corporations selling GPL software is the exact reason why we have SystemD, Canonical, GNOME and RedHat with their neverending release cycles, new "features", millions lines of code, useless certificates to train pajeets monkeywrenching their shovelware for wage. A truly free software should be distributed free of charge for all, if you want to earn money stop selling air like a jew you are and make some hardware to back it up. Want some proofs? Best free software is made by enthusiasts, has no "business" paid options and is extremely lightweight while being elegantly designed.

t. not communist

>>910164

You are a commie tho.