/tech/ - Technology★

>>906901 (OP)

You have 2 options:

>Delete everything but the essentials, e.g. a single e-mail account.

>Dehumanize yourself and face to botnet.

>>906901 (OP)

Where's she going?

>>906906

What about the accounts that can't be deleted.

I pray that /ourguys/ end up controlling the botnet.

>>906915

Use Tor Browser for everything that you don't need your personal info for. That way facebook and the like won't be able to map you to your shadow profile via IP and tracking bugs. (make sure you disable JS / set security slider to highest)

>>906915

Not just that. What about accounts you've forgotten about?

>>906921

>Use Tor Browser for everything that you don't need your personal info for.

this advice will get you fucked, and remember it hurts to get fucked

You don't have to stop doing everything all at once-. If you can make small privacy-conscious changes to your internet behavior and the software you use, you will slowly improve and eventually you won't have as much spyware in your life.

Just delete all of the accounts you don't use, switch your web browser to one that isn't botnet if you haven't already, and install noscript. Then later you can start figuring out how to replace things that are a lot harder for you to give up using.

>>906915

1. Try to edit out as much as you can.

2. Write to the website to delete your account and delete all your data.

>>906915

>Implying when you "delete" your google account they don't just simply hide it from you and flag you as naughty boy

It's easy faggot. "Delete" yourself and start using Tor Browser/tor+links for everything. I don't even have an email nor the phone and can function properly.

>>906927

Why? You all are on the list anyway, because you are here. Now fuck off to /g/, goyim.

>>906927

Why is that please elaborate. It is not nice to make such a claim and but then not explaining the reasons behind your reasoning.

Step zero: don't immediately seek most severe measures.

Don't search for Tails from Chrome on Windows 10 on a modern laptop.

1. Download Firefox.

2. Download a GNU/Linux distro.

3. From the GNU distro, download Tor.

4. Via Tor, order safe hardware.

5. From Tor on GNU from safe hardware, you are now free to educate yourself more fully.

>>906922

That's the worst

I remember a website that you could input your email or a username and it would show all the websites with accounts created with them, but I forgot the name

>>906960

In fact, do steps 1-3 from an internet cafe, if such institutions even still exist in the land of the free.

>>906922

By definition, nothing.

>>906927

The only way that piece of advice was harmful was the suggestion that using Tor for deanonymized purposes is somehow dangerous. As long as you remember to erase the circuits before site reuse, it's fine. Using Tor will be linked to your real identity anyway; in fact, you become marginally safer by using the proverbial facebookcorewwwi and thus implying that you only use it for social bullshit.

>>906944

>tor+links

This is a horrible decision. While it may be possible to spoof the Tor Browser footprint perfectly in console, using Tor with Links basically serves yourself on a platter.

>>906901 (OP)

> but i cant delete some accounts and i dont know where to start??

-be sure that you don't have the same pseudonym for your accounts same thing for you email addresses.

-be sure the generate a random password with dices and a truth alphabet (with special characters that can permute on the first throw).

-never use a computer to generate passwords, always use pen papers and burn the notes if you have any.

-Always use a different password for each account.

-To get away from the botnet you need to use a endorsed FSF distro, its not as good as gentoo like distributions but you get a whole new aspect of how the computer world is fucked up, you can see Trisquel or parabola if you want.

-For internet navigation there's only the Tor browser available today to be anonymous

-For email hosting it's VERY complicated (thank to very simple protocols that were made in a time were you didn't need to hide from spooks) either you can setup your own server on the Tor network or you need to find a webmail that doesn't block Tor and doesn't ask mandatory JS. You also need to use GPG for email encryption but be aware that even tho you benefit from that encryption you also become more likely to be traceable (except in the gnunet network that it's still now working right now).

-If you don't use tor and use a normal browser, you can use Icecat if you use a gnu/linux configuration, if you still use MS and god I hope you don't it's Firefox and you'll need to edit lots of thing in the about:config. You'll also need to learn how to use the browser firewall "umatrix" and configure it in whitelist mode (block everything enable what you need).

Delete all posts from platforms which allow you to do that, even if they don't get deleted on the backend it will protect you from scraping and casual web searching. Stop using cutesy aliases and handles which you have cultivated. Get a new email address from a provider like sdf.org rather than a botnet ad company. Stop using Twitter and Facebook and Google and Youtube entirely (block them on your router). Start doing all your browsing over Tor except banking and such (MITM over Tor is possible).

Nobody is forcing you to do any of this botnet shit, you're doing it to yourself.

>>907005

>-be sure the generate a random password with dices and a truth alphabet (with special characters that can permute on the first throw).

>-never use a computer to generate passwords, always use pen papers and burn the notes if you have any.

While this is perfectly sound advice (I own a d10 dice for this very purpose), does it really make sense with regard to typical websites? Every single website should always be assumed to keep your password in plaintext anyway. Choosing a strong password is only really necessary with respect to personal device encryption; casual remote bruteforcing will be blocked by the site in question on the network level, and the government will simply ask for your data directly.

>>906907

She's just kicking her legs.

>>907042

Fingerprinting from how you do things like typing and what not is possible.

If you don't do random made password it's a possible configuration of more easily being detected.

>>907052

Yes, I get that passwords should not reflect the identity of their user by means of choice of special characters or order of alterations or such. This is true. What I was saying is that investing effort into super randomness or untraceability of generqtion is, in terms of most passwords, something of a waste of time. As I said, sites, and by extension, the government, already know every single password of yours. It doesn't help that much, so perhaps it's best if such requirements as you describe are dropped from suggestions to most people, in most cases. They will hurt more, through added complexity and discouragement, than they will help.

>>907052

>>907061

To clarify: password security, when it is not used for own encryption but for insecure external services, should only fulfill two requirements:

1. not reveal identity of its author (as you say) and

2. prevent most remote brute forcing. (If an attacker has acquired the hash to attack it locally and not over the network, then probably they have your data in the first place.)

>>906901 (OP)

>How do you cope with your internet footprint?

I dehumanize myself and face to bloodshed.

Why don't websites hash the password on the user's side when registering a new account?

Because you schizophrenics don't want to run javascript on your machines.

>How do you cope with your internet footprint?

i don't cus i don't got one

Every account has a different handle and they are mentally categorized to use different emails for registration. Hacking or getting forcibly exposed in any does minimal damage.

I dump my nudes

Categories:

1. Site with no data/info

Only connected to you by IP?

2. Site with any data/info

Connected to you by name, DOB, etc?

3. Site required to live in your government/society

Connected to you by name, location, numbers, everything?

4. "by proxy information"

Depends.

What do:

1. Delete if possible, then stop using.

2. Replace info and delete if possible, then stop using.

3. Gather on 1 secure mail that will become your official footprint (delete if possible if you want to become off grid caveman)

4. For deletion you'd have to contact whoever put up data/info that happens to include you. This might make you stand out but it depends.

When you use the internet without protection (encryption, VPN, tails, public wifi, etc.) you will be using the internet as your official footprint.

Don't use your official footprint for anything but official business (banking, work, school, etc.)

Don't visit anymore sites than neccessary as your official footprint; various addons (umatrix, ublock, etc) will show that you are never connecting to just one website. All these different connections and websites contribute to your "shadow profile"

Once the official footprint has been isolated, you can try and strive for anonymity and not being footprintable. Nothing should connect your visits.

But I don't know anything so do whatever you want.

>>917154

kys

>>917171

No U. Use tripcode to get rid of cuteposter please

>>917174

I'm doing what I can

>>917174

Excuse for sucking cock approved. Commencing assault.

>>917171

Right behind you, senpai!

>>917195

>>917174

responded to wrong post, sry

>>917174

I'll suck it like my life depends on it. *CHOMP* *SLURP* *CHOMP*

>>917174

We are legion. We do not forgive. UwU

>>917174

Here's your (You), faggot

>>917174

Let's get the oven started.

>>917174

>>917187

>>917188

>>917195

>>917199

>>917217

>>917221

>>917222

DO IT FAGGOTS

>>917222

No, gulag

>>917284

Either will do for a tripfag, I guess.

>>906901 (OP)

Just hope you never become famous enough for someone to research your internet footprint, then become a hermit to help ensure that you remain not famous.

VPN so the server doesn't know if this post is mine or of that fucktard trying to get banned (although given the info browsers intentionally leak if the server cares it can know), block jewgle with umatrix, cookies deleted once I close the browser.

I'm so glad I was a loser obsessed with mathematics when I was younger. Even back then, the people who cared about pure mathematics were autists, so I never needed friends... wait... why do I have tears in my eyes ;_;. (Yes, this is a blogpost - go ahead and excoriate me.)

>>906960

>Via Tor, order safe hardware

Is it a good idea to use the credit card botnet through Tor? I was under the impression that that is not something you should do.

>>918099

You can buy hardware with anonymized cryptocurrencies.

>>918105

Delivered to your location though?

Before complaining about your digital footprint what about your real life footprint?

You are six degrees apart from other people (it means someone knows someone knows... who knows anyone - that anyone can be pointed back to you).

It's called Six Degrees of Separation. What about information you give away to the public or the government? That doesn't matter anymore though so let's change the question:

Who else hides footprint? Jack the Ripper?

If you truly want to hide yourself among the rest then join the hax&&l33t side of the digital world.

You can't delete data from their servers or data centers which had already likely been hacked by intelligence agencies and/or other hackers. So the only choice you n00bx are left with is to finally join the 3lit3 h4ckz3r 4nd d35tr0y th3 w34k n00vz

>>906901 (OP)

i was a stupid kid who used to comment on anything using my full name.

I managed to clean most of the "visible" stuff off the face of Google by emailing the webpage owners and asking them to delete the comments.

After that i filled a form provided by Google to delete the pages that already took the comments down.

It's going slow but steady

>>906915

Wouldn't have happened with GDPR.

>>906915

If you're an EU citizen, you can legally request all companies that hold personal data of yours to delete it permanently, and sue them if they do not comply. If you're not an EU, you're fucked.

>>906901 (OP)

>How do you cope with your internet footprint?

By not being a retard.

>>924578

Look at Mr. Perfect who does everything right!

>>924583

All I needed to do was listen to Stallman regarding freedom and privacy. It's not like his views are a secret, and it's not my fault that people aren't willing to listen to him.

>>924590

And instead of just telling me what his views are, you're expecting me to expose myself to the botnet to find them.

>>924583

>Look at Mr. Perfect who does everything right!

Translation: I was a retard who left a trail of breadcrumbs on my social media accounts leading to the degenerate porno I like and my bank account two factor authentication questions

It's a rough translation but I believe this is the message being conveyed.

>>924592

Stallman has been spouting the same rants again and again for over 30 years. Where have you been?

http://archive.is/1RBxk

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/keep-control-of-your-computing.en.html

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html

>>924639

>It's a rough translation but I believe this is the message being conveyed.

This is roughly correct.

>someone made a f*cebook account for me when I was 10

>post childish stuff

>random email for it is long gone, they don't know the password

>contacting """support""" is basically impossible

>have to make an account to even try to

I shouldn't worry as much when all of my embarrassing searches and moments on the internet are all stored in immortal record on numerous servers. I hate this feeling so much.

1) is google captcha able to deanonymise a tor browser user? no unique fingerprint and no consistent ip

2) is cuckflare a threat to anonymity apart from being a dick to tor users sometimes?

>>928505

literally this but myspace

Isn't it safer to just forget about them?

If I try to actively delete them won't it draw attention to me?

>>906916

This

>>918116

>Delivered to your location though?

I have wondered the same thing. How can we deal with this??

>>928510

>1) is google captcha able to deanonymise a tor browser user?

not unless they use some sort of exploit we don't know about, Tor browser is supposed to be prepared for these things, that's why it comes with js enabled by default.

>>906955

>>906944

>>906971

sorry I forgot this thread was a thing

watch the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XaYdCdwiWU

one guy did everything including youtube through tor and as that was the only traffic from his house, TOR, it was jsut one more thing that made him identifiable

>>943296

I'm going to get a VPS in Europe just so I can request deletion of every post I've ever made on public forums.

>>906901 (OP)

>How do you cope with your internet footprint

I have a text file containing all my accounts behind 3 layers of encryption.

<key encryption

<the key's password

<the file's password

And I know passwords are just a key a human can memorize, but the difference is important. Shit's just a text file so I made a ridiculously fuckhuge key, it will read and write fast enough. The actual key is important because maybe my passwords are easy to brute force, so needing the huge key will slow the attacker down.

I expect to at the very least memorize these 2 passwords and I never wrote them down anywhere. I have everything backed up in multiple storage devices and the

The software I used for this is entirely free so I know it's not all dumped in the post box of a 3 letter agency.

>remember account

>delete it and all posts if possible

Bare minimum is best.

>>906901 (OP)

You can always put fake information and leave the accounts to rot if you can't delete them. If it's a shady site that you shouldn't trust such as (((Facebook))) the damage has already been done, but at least you can ensure no one else can profile the account.

>>906901 (OP)

I am likely the only person in america with my specific name 2 first names and a hyphenated last name and the only hits I get on google are the few time's I made the dean's list and the alumni list for the same school, feels good. Tons of hits for other people with parts of my name too.

Even if you delete everything there will still be archives of it out there. The wayback machine will have 100 copies of all your shit.

You can't delete anything on the internet if people want to find it bad enough. It's just a matter of not being a target.

For the people saying use tor etc. it won't matter. your IP is not the only way they build these profiles. Having a changing ip helps but they still build a profile by browsing habits. If you wake up every morning and check chickenfuckers, goatplowers and your news website of choice then they can put it together that any random IP that opened all 3 within the same 5 minute span is you. This shit is much much deeper than what people think it is. I'm not saying don't value your security but understand you're dealing with shit way way out of your league to prevent. You need to add more noise to your signal because your signal is so obvious if you have any sort of pattern. And we all have patterns in the way we type, the websites we visit and the times of day we visit things.

>>906901 (OP)

As much as I dislike PHP, Nextcloud (almost entirely PHP) has been useful for breaking my dependence on a lot of Google services. I was able to completely stop using Google services about 5 years ago thanks to Nextcloud (previously OwnCloud).

If you run your Nextcloud on a low-power-consumption computer, you can host it for yourself at home with negligible electricity cost as a Tor hidden service.

If you can afford an extra $15 per year, you can get a domain name, and then generate an HTTPS key for yourself and get a gratis cert for your key from Let's Encrypt.

>>945684

Worst part about WBM is they won't let you delete your fucking site once you no longer own the domain.

The domain name of my site (which was gobbled up by some faggot looking for anything animation related with page rank) is in my goddamn email, which is all over the registrar info when the pages belonged to me.

They won't fucking delete that range, it has to be all or nothing and is up to the current "owner".

Is there a way to lie about being an EU citizen and make them delete shit?

>>945706

Say you're an EU citizen. But if the servers are hosted else where they can just tell you to fuck off.

>>943283

Not if you use a vpn (install your own openvpn server on a vps), and you only use Tor through it to hide from your ISP, and so from the government.

>>945684

Do you have solutions to mitigate this, to at least make it harder for them?

Firstly, use a password manager like KeePassX. Secondly, don't register on sites using your credentials from another site, e.g. your Google account, Faceberg account, etc. Thirdly, delete all your accounts anyways because its all botnet. It's all botnet. IT'S ALL BOTNET.

>>945820

>Using a bloated, superfluous service to store your passwords

Just generate a 14-char string by piping out /dev/urandom and keep it in a private journal, that way the only people who could get them are those who already have physical access to all your electronics. If you must go the password manager route, just use fucking pass, the simple Unix equivalent. Anything less is simply you pretending to be concerned so that you can live with yourself.

Why does that gif turn me on

>>945872

it was made by minus8

>>945922

of course i never use my real name in anywhere. Except for one bank account related email, old paypal account, and few shopping sites.

>>946254

You're on camera buying those cards then picking it up.

It can be tracked.

>>946255

so have someone else buy those cards man, god damn

>>946255

>He did not read http://wiki.installgentoo.com

>>946255

There is shit you can apply to your face to make detection hard.

>>945819

You can't really fix the way you type so that's out the window. You could add more noise to the signal but you would need something to do it randomly so you don't create a pattern there. Is there a way to visit random websites? But maybe visiting 12 different random websites at set time intervals would also be a way to track you.

I don't honestly know tbh. We don't know exactly what they track. If we did we could find solutions, but it would take a mass to make it happen not just 1 guy doing it. Do we have those numbers?

>>946260

then you look like the weirdo wearing face paint they can track just as easy because you're the only guy doing it and you stood out to the staff for doing it.

The systems aren't designed by complete idiots. They have safety nets built into them so you can't just do the minimal effort and avoid them.

>>946264

I'm actually going to work on a project like this next month, it will simulate normal user behavior on random sites to add noise to the first.

>>946265

>You can also move to Seattle

Is it possible negros get away with a lot of the shit they do because the cameras can't track them? I imagine the systems are designed by whitey who live in closed communities away from the negros. We know races struggle to pick out individual members of other races and often can't tell the beautiful from the hideous when they first move to a foreign country. Is it possible the camera auto detect shit can't recognize the monkey people since they all have the same flat noses (one of the best identifiers)?

>>906901 (OP)

>>906901 (OP)

I deleted all social media which is connected to my real identity. So where people I knew IRL can find me. This was more for removing everyone from my life tho.

>>946264

I remember that in France, they used to filter certain words; so people would build random list of these words and post it everywhere.

The responsible said that it was a nightmare for them, but at the end, they resolved the problem.

I seriously wonder how they go through.

Now that there is AI and neural networks, the problem is on another scale.

>>946255

That's not only that; some people made the hypothesis that the code used in these cards could give out where it has been bought (tied the code to the exact store selling them etc.., maybe some date range).

>>946270

Cameras are mostly useless, at least for preventing crime. Most of the time, they're useless to condemn people.

telegraph .co. uk/news/uknews/crime/11306606/Police-force-plans-to-drop-CCTV-for-bobbies-on-the-beat.html

>>946314

Big difference in tracking people you know who they are and tracking random faggots. if they're paying attention to you they don't need to id you on every camera as a single source. They just id your coat as you leave on a good quality camera and then use that cross referencing your phones gps.

It's not a single system you're trying to fuck wit. It's ten different systems.

i get rid off most of them by writing mail to site administration.

>>946310

They probably check if there's several of those words right next to another.

I think that if you peppered the words from the list in a totally unrelated paragraph, you would go back to fucking with that system.

>>946333

they have good cameras now? usually cctvs have so bad image quality that you can barely see that theres a human on the picture. its like they were 30 years old and stored the video on worn vhs tapes

A noose will hang me before my history does.

>>906901 (OP)

You can never get rid of yourself and can only create new identities.

>>928511

>>928505

I hate this

There is literally NOTHING you can find about me when you search for my name on the top 10 most used search engines, but search my fucking name on motherfucking YouTube and you will find videos of little me playing soccer + my face.

And I can’t remove them because of the same reasons.

There are no pictures of me on search engines. The only one that used to exist was disappeared some years ago because of the other people in the shot. I am invisible. What do?

>>906927

Hahaha corporate spy / marketing droid is worried!

How do you cope with university shit. If you look up my name a bunch of school shit comes up. Random University news stuff. When I joined the university I kind of gave them the right to post shit about me so no way to hide that

>>946265

Just put a baseball cap on so it covers most of your face and eyes from cameras that are usally high up. Anyways a lot convience stores defiantly shitty ones are old enough to just it record to vhs tapes or somewhere thats not connected to the internet.

>>924592

post on /tech/ and not knowing stallman

>>928505

You think that's bad?

>Move to a new city + school when 13

>Become Friends with some autist

>Girl he likes talks to me for less than a minute

>REEEEEEEEEEEs out, goes up and spams how much he hates me, signs me up to all sorts of bullshit, and impersonates me. Spazs out for the rest of the school year doing shit like this

>One page is still up 15 years later

>Ask them to remove it, explain to them what happened

>Page gets expanded with a section about me asking them to remove it

>>924491

What happens when non-EU companies don't comply?

>>906915

The best you can do is to mold your digital footprint into whatever you want. Bury whatever you're hiding with bullshit and loads of it. Presidential candidates and many others use this method

After reading this /v/ thread, I'm suddenly more interested in this thread and have a lot of deleting to do.

>>>/v/15406516

>>907050

Why is the chair moving, then?

>>906901 (OP)

Your best bet is to leave everything as is and just change your life enough so that all the information online of you becomes obsolete. I had a Facebook account like 6 years ago in highshool but it's all worthless now since I'm essentially a different person entirely now.

>>916685

that's an interesting argument for js

i have all my accounts in a password manager, every once in a while i go through and delete the ones i no longer use

>>922219

i don't even understand what you're trying to say, something something you give your irl info away irl so might as well do the same online

>>924483

the US needs a GDPR, it was the best recent thing to happen to the internet

>>924491

>if you're not in the EU, you're fucked

many companies including Telegram rolled out their EU compliance for all users

>>943296

just not the uk, because, you know, encryption

>>945693

if self hosting is too hard for you there's always mega.nz to escape google drive

if nextcloud is still to botnet for you there's always sftp servers

>>945839

>keepassx is bloat

how on earth is keepassx bloated? what do you use, a text file encrypted with gpg -c?

>use /dev/urandom as passwords

or use xkcd's strategy

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_strength.png

>>946264

>you can't change the way you type

run everything you type through an (offline) translator, translate it to another language or two then back to english, then it will sound generic

>>946266

This was the concept of "paranoid linux" in Cory Doctorow's book Little Brother https://craphound.com/littlebrother/2008/06/05/paranoidlinux-now-under-development/

" It even throws up a bunch of “chaff” communications that are supposed to disguise the fact that you’re doing anything covert. So while you’re receiving a political message one character at a time, ParanoidLinux is pretending to surf the Web and fill in questionnaires and flirt in chat-rooms. Meanwhile, one in every five hundred characters you receive is your real message, a needle buried in a huge haystack."

>>946258

>Police need to track you

>they find guy who you got to buy you the card

>the guy rats you out

Or

>Police need to track you

>they find guy who you got to buy you the card

>says you somehow met him anonymously or in your car at x location

>police look up footage from x location at the right time and find your car

>follow your car

You can't win.

>>957943

This, also I need to have a resume and portfolio for tech jobs

>>966709

this is why we need threat models and should not attempt to just be "more secure" or "100% secure", i assume i'm not on a government watchlist, therefore my threat model only includes dragnet surveillance

>>966711

>i assume i'm not on a government watchlist

Anon. I regret to inform you, but that assumption is wrong.

I absolutely abhor the meme/(((chan culture)))/thing of calling spyware/compromised information channels "botnet" and having to call actual botnets "actual botnets" or "literal botnets". I hate it as much as the misuse of the word " literally". It's basically a "literally" for cuckcham autists

>>966711

>>966733

yes anon, no one is watching you. Just pay your taxes, keep your head down and don't go trying anything funny you understand me?

We're not watching you.

>>966751

like I said, I assume I *am* being watched via dragnet surveillance and potentially law enforcement but not on a watchlist

>>907009

>Start doing all your browsing over Tor except banking

*start doing all your browsing over Tor especially banking.

>>966791

Don't be retarded. Your bank already knows who you are. Doing online banking with them through an anonymity network is pointless.

>>966833

Tor is magic anon, I use it for my public facebook account and the fbi can't even trace it back to my home network, lmao!!!!

>>966839

That's true if you're accessing it from some other location. Additionally, there is the benefit of it being more resistant to MITM injection ala quantum insert.

>>966850

what the fuck is "quantum insert"?

>looks it up

>blah blah attack on web browser

ohh another attack we already knew about for a decade or 3 but you only figured out after the NSA memes

>>966691

what's one good thing that it did? (inb4: a bunch of botnet companies made promises! xddd)