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>>904700 (OP)

>ubuntu touch

I thought Marky mark discontinued it?

it cool but will it really cost 600$ when released?

>smarthphone

>genereal

POO IN LOO

>cell modem is not detachable in form of SDIO card

FUCK OFF CIA

Why does uNav have the ICQ flower?

Are they also Mossad?

>>904921

That's actually an ICQ logo, the GUI shows a highlight screen for an application with (((suggested))) ones in the bottom. it says:

>New and Updated applications something-something...

postmarketOS had some big news lately, they're packaging GNOME, and starting to port osmocomBB to some modern mediatek devkits.

also inb4 unemployed kissless virgins spam this thread to oblivion with "why would you have a phone anyway?" shitposts.

>hurr durr I'm a cuckchan faggot hurr durr

>>905029

Meanie!

>>905019

>"why would you have a phone anyway?" shitposts.

By the way, The Librem has its CPU separate from the baseband, making it much better than other phones in this regard

That's nice.

You know it's gonna fail like Windows Phone though, the market is already saturated, people won't buy phones with a new OS because it doesn't have any apps and devs won't make apps for it because it doesn't have any marketshare. Too little, too late, as they say. Way too late in this case, even MS have tried and failed in the smartphone market before, and they are usually the last to notice new developments.

>>905034

>market is saturated

Really? Please point me to where I can find the competitors of privacy respecting phones mr. Google employee. Because there are none.

It's a new market, and strangely we had to wait 10+ years for it to finally come.

>>905054

>there are none

There are some. Remember that thread about a CEO being thrown in jail or something for selling his privacy phones because he was complicit selling them to drug dealers.

>>905037

>This can run literally any GNU/Linux application, because it's GNU/Linux.

>You can even wipe the PureOS distro it comes with, and Install Gentoo on it!

Have fun using desktop applications which aren't optimized for touch screens. Libre office, vim, emacs, Thunderbird, Gimp, every single cli application was build with keyboard and mouse in mind. Use a Windows tablet without the keyboard attachment and try using any regular desktop application. It can be done, but it's a pain.

>>905054

>Really? Please point me to where I can find the competitors of privacy respecting phones mr. Google employee. Because there are none.

Web OS, Firefox OS, older Ubuntu phones.

Granted, those aren't real competitors anymore since they already failed.

>It's a new market, and strangely we had to wait 10+ years for it to finally come.

What market? Almost half of the people alive nowadays own a smartphone. Those who don't

a) live in shit hole countries without electricity

b) are so old they don't give a shit about those toys

c) are so poor they cannot afford a $30 android poo in loo phone

d) are Terry Davis tier paranoid and wouldn't want any device which can connect to mobile networks

People who would want a smartphone only if it respected their freedoms are few and far between. They either settled with Android (maybe degoogled) or reject phones in general. Once you connect to the network, you can and will be tracked, regardless of the OS.

>but what if

>>905087

>but what if it doesn't have a 2/3/4/5G modem?

Then it's not a phone

>>905087

Everything this guy said, basically. I would be interested in a degoogled Android custom ROM tablet without any sort of connectivity or maybe WiFi-only with a hardware switch. I would gladly use it as a PDA/e-reader. I'd be interested in a free software flip phone too, but I'm sure nobody would buy that but me. Smartphone running Linux with no apps, the same shitty smartphones with low volume and terrible dialer/contacts, no thanks.

>>905061

Something like this happened in the Netherlands as well. It was a company selling preconfigured BlackBerries for encrypted messaging. Justice demanded the keys and the cucks gave it to them. But I wouldn't consider those privacy respecting phones, since they don't run GNU/Linux etc.

>>905087

I never owned a smartphone and the Librem 5 is making me consider to buy one. I never had a Facebook account either, so I guess according to you I am "Terry Davis tier paranoid". I prefer to call myself a rational human being.

Also 10 years a go wireless internet was shit and expensive. Nowadays with free wifi hotspots everywhere it is actually good enough for me to consider using it with a phone that respects my freedom.

>>905099

>Smartphone running Linux with no apps

It runs GNU/Linux. You can install everything you want.

>the same shitty smartphones with low volume and terrible dialer/contacts

You already tested the Librem 5? No? Then stfu.

>>905105

>(((Free))) Wi-Fi Hotspots

You might as well send the CIA, Google and Chinese hackers your data immediately and cut out the middle man

>>905111

>what is vpn

>>905111

Any "hotspot" must be considered a honeyspot at this point.

Plasma Mobile when? Also when asequible Librem 5? Would love to buy one, but downgrading for almost the price of my two gens old phone just feels wrong.

I would really like to see NixOS Mobile or something like that. Would solve the shit out of upgrades and probably cloud synch

>>905341

>I would really like to see NixOS Mobile

Remember that Librem 5 is not a locked-down system like an Android phone or an Apple phone. If you want to install NixOS on the Librem, you should just be able to do it, provided that NixOS supports ARM (I'm not sure if it does)

>>905087

but what if you connect a keyboard to your phone.

>>905341

It already supports Plasma Mobile (at least as much as they can on their dev boards).

>>904700 (OP)

>trusting librem

>>905371

?

>>904700 (OP)

>Ubuntu Touch

Why the fuck would I want a mobile phone which runs a monolithic kernel?

>>905034

>implying I'm not gonna play Freeciv on my phone

Are GNU/Linux phones something that's already practical for end users, or still just a tinkerer's domain? I'm looking for a tablet, but both the iPad and Android devices are reeking of botnet. There is one tablet listed as supported on the Ubuntu Touch website, but even that one is already two years old.

>>905396

Ubuntu Touch has been cancelled by Canonical.

>>905396

Buy a Nintendo Switch and install your favorite distro on it with bentpinhax. It has some nice specs.

>>905402

Ubuntu Touch is still being developed by a third party, and I'm pretty sure that Canonical recently announced that it's giving some support to it again.

>>905034

Apppps. If I can make calls and run terminal sessions in tmux on it I'm good.

>>905407

And why, pray tell, would you want to use a smartphone over a laptop for that?

Get a used ThinkPad or some Chinese MIPS based shit and a dumb phone. There, I just saved you $300 and the pain of having to use cli tools with a touchscreen. No need to thank me, you're welcome,.

>>905367

I know the Librem 5 supports Plasma Mobile, but I have no idea how production-ready is it. Is it any usable?

>>905034

Nothing stopping you from running one of those 'desktop' Android Runtimes on it.

>>904757

Carried on by the community via the UBPorts project.

It has a lot of activity and sponsors.

https://ubports.com/

Ubuntu getting away from it got more people interested, I hope the Ubuntu touch of death will destroy gnome next.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=M7HJH0IH3dc

>>905407

>>905408

tbh a GNU/Linux smartphone should have a fold-out QWERTY keypad with a little trackpoint-like device. Like the GPD Win but thinner.

>>905408

Yeah I've got a $40 T43. It's great but it doesn't do phone. This I could plug into a monitor and keyboard while at home, replacing the T43, and make calls, replacing my busted ass old flip phone that they're trying to make worse by not maintaining 3G. So, only fuss with the whatever shitty on-screen keyboard it has (they're all shit) when necessary. Sounds comfy enough.

>>905414

I think they said on their blog that it was pretty much ready except for functionality that depended on a SIM card. They don't currently have the hardware to be able to test out those features.

>>905443

Not him, but I would figure they would need to drop the ubuntu trademarks since it is technically separate from Canonical.

>>904700 (OP)

>baseband is soldered, IMEI can't be changed, use "privacy" switch goyim

yah nah NSA, not his time tbh

could you please go back to reddit, to your le ebic secure flip phone cianigger circlejerk please?

>>905054

Please point me to where I can find enough people willing to give a shit about their privacy to make a market for such a device. Because there aren't enough. This world is full of disgusting normalfags.

>>905567

They raised 2.4 million dollars and people are already ordering them although they will be released in jan 2019.

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

>>904757

loonix failed to capture phone marketshare just like it failed to capture desktop marketshare.

>inb4 android is linux

No.

>>906328

>implying Android isn't in fact Android/Linux

>>906328

Android is Linux. Android is not, however, GNU/Linux.

Use Stallman's naming to avoid giving it undue credit.

KDE mobile is where it's at.

>>906330

>>906331

These. I'm sure that on rooted phones, the Linux foundation is immediately perceptible; not merely a matter of naming, but something relevant to everyday work.

>>905373

It's the same people that did the so called 100% free laptop, they lied a lot and relied on hype they don't deserve attention.

>>904797

what about fairphone2/3?

I've been trying to find a Xiomi or something I can run Kali or ubuntu on, that wasn't Nexus. But I gave up when there's nothing on the net anymore

>>906424

Wow thats old news.

They now have Coreboot+ME_Clean on all devices, plus all of them being skylake.

It's not exactly 100%, but if they were going to be 100%, they'd just end up being yet another decade-old, Core2Duo, 1280x800 res, used thinkpad salesman like libiquity, minifree, vikings, and tehnoetic

>>906532

TALOS laptop when?

>>906620

Roll your own. Who cares if it's lumpy and unsightly. At least you will know what you've got.

>>906620

>>906630

RISC-V laptop would probably be way more feasible

>>905468

Sure, when it's price drops by 200$ again it might be a good buy. But right now it's shit.

>>906661

We already had monster laptops using 130W Intel LGA2011 CPUs on the market. It's definitely feasible.

>>905468

Can I delete Android off it and use the entire SSD for my GNU/Linux distro of choice?

>>906822

Yes

http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Linux_Support

>>905403

GNU/Linux on Switch still barely works at this stage. It's only for tinkerers until things improve. If there isn't any real solution I'll have to settle for the cheapest tablet I can find and never use if for any personal data.

>>906662

If you want niche hardware, you've got to pay more for it.

>>915306

I think it even uses coreboot.

>>915309

The point is it was 299USD in January, which was the fair price.