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https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/880z4b/what_happened_to_waterfoxs_devotion_to_user/

>Sorry, this shouldn't be there as it's actually not true (you can check in about:config), it hasn't been true for a very very long time in Waterfox.

wow it's fucking nothing

It never did. It's the biggest browser scam because it is literally Firefox with a different name.

>Of course, if you'd like the Crème de la Crème of privacy focused browser, as the expense of an unusable web, I'd suggest the Tor Browser. I heard it's rather good 😉

That faggot is right with this one. Fuck him.

>>903981

I use Tor Browser with the security settings turned to high. The web is hardly unusable.

Lunduke was right. Use w3m or lynx.

>>903981

>😉

gas

>>903981

Everybody should use Tor browser for everything.

Well, what now? Furrymoon is shit too, right?

>>904411

I might consider that

>>903941 (OP)

That's what you get for using some meme browser nobody uses. Use Chrome or Firefox. Anything else and you're just asking for it.

>>904416

>tripfag

>use Chrome

You're a strong argument for legalizing euthanasia.

>>903985

>The web is hardly unusable.

Exactly. The only sites inaccessible using Tor under strictest settings require JavaScript or use Cloudflare, both of which is a solid indicator that nothing of value is being lost.

>>904431

The only time you shouldn't use TOR is if you're doing online banking or stock trading and shit like that, because of the potential for MITM attacks.

Otherwise TOR everywhere.

>>904432

You do realize everyone who uses Tor even once gets on a list?

>>904437

What kind of list?

904432

>The only time you shouldn't use TOR is if you're doing online banking or stock trading and shit like that,

It's Tor, not TOR, and you are correct, but not:

>because of the potential for MITM attacks.

But, rather, because there's no point in using an anonymity network when accessing services that are tied to your real identity anyway, like your bank account.

Unless a Tor user is dumb enough to accept a self-signed cert created by a malicious exit node owner, there's really no need to worry about MITM unless said node owner has compromised a certificate authority or has an 0day for your browser that will make it ignore the invalid cert. If either of those are true, you (and every other web user) has much bigger problems than some exit node admin seeing how much lunch money you have in your checking account.

But, yes, for all stuff not tied to one's real identity, one should be using Tor.

>>904437

>You do realize everyone who uses Tor even once gets on a list?

You do realize that when enough people get on a list, the list becomes useless? You do realize that everyone should be trying to get on a list as an act of civil disobedience? You do realize that the very existence of lists that people like you are afraid of is an affront to freedom-loving, right-thinking people?

t.guy on several lists Teller-Ulam weapon design aluminum tube highly enriched PRISM antibiotic-resistant anthrax crop duster ECHELON

>>903941 (OP)

It was always placebo from the beginning.

>>903981

>as the expense of an unusable web

False.

The only websites who gets unusable are those with canvas and mandatory JS, if these websites cannot work without them then they aren't worthy of your time.

>That faggot is right with this one.

No he isn't.

Tor is "quote"Crème de la Crème"unquote" not only because of it's configuration but because of the mesh network the Tor browser works with 99% of websites with standard security, at maximum it's 90% these 10% are websites made by people with bad motives they aren't worth it.

>>904403

My man (I would preffer to move to Gnunet tho).

But lets remember some good oldies for newcomers.

>2014 The Love Zone (TLZ) bust: Australian's Task Force Argos was able to track down TLZ hidden service admin Shannon McCoole (skee) on google through his odd word misspellings and unusual greeting 'hiyas'. They arrested McCoole and ran the site for 6 months. Caught many users by embedded exploits in video files, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Huckle

>2015 Playpen bust: Steven Chase misconfigured his hidden server and anyone was able to connect via direct IP (192.198.81.106) for 2 weeks. A foregin law enforcement agency found the IP while doing full IPv4 scans and notified the FBI. Steven Chase uses his personal paypal account to pay for the server and SSHed from his home IP over 10 times.

There was one case which I can't find anymore but it was basically that the guy ONLY used Tor to connect to his server and not a lot of people in the area he was was doing it so it was easy (but long) for the FBI to find time correlation between time of posting and connection and after elimination of suspect they bugged his house and router and it proved to be him, if the guy would have used Tor 7/7 24/24 the FBI couldn't have made any good correlation.

The moral of the story is: It's hard to properly anonymise & secure a web server. Police rarely attack the anonymity networks themselves, but look for hosting mistakes and OPSEC failures. It doesn't matter what anonymity tool you use, the server will eventually be found.

And people who run illegal sites are dumb.

>>904447

>>You do realize everyone who uses Tor even once gets on a list?

>You do realize that when enough people get on a list, the list becomes useless? You do realize that everyone should be trying to get on a list as an act of civil disobedience?

This. Tor developers explicitly encourage as many people as possible to use it for this very reason.

>>904491

>trying to get on a list as an act of civil disobedience

Only one?

t. Tor, gun, and cash using free man

>>904484

>There was one case which I can't find anymore but it was basically that the guy ONLY used Tor to connect to his server and not a lot of people in the area he was was doing it so it was easy (but long) for the FBI to find time correlation between time of posting and connection and after elimination of suspect they bugged his house and router and it proved to be him, if the guy would have used Tor 7/7 24/24 the FBI couldn't have made any good correlation.

Wasn't that the Silk Road case?

I decided to start writing an article about it on my web site, here:

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/waterfox.html

This is a kind of brief article, so anyone who knows more about it could probably submit some corrections and changes since I personally don't use Waterfox.

So once again, Pale Moon and Basilisk are the only Firefox-based options left.

>>904441

An american list.

>>904609

You forgot >>904411

You're welcome! ^_^

>>904411

>Wangblows port is outdated

Just compile the latest version yourself.

>>904585

your website design SUCKS

improve it, and I might help

>>905024

How's this?:

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/example.html

I think that it looks more readable to just leave everything plain. I can move all the articles to this style, i'll do that sometime later today probably.

>>904585

>open page in Palemoon

>waterfox that was playing an unrelated video crashes

HMMMM

>>905031

>>904585

Why does it take up only half the page? Web browsers can wrap text.

>>905042

Some people wanted it to take up half the page, and others didn't when I first made a thread about this site a few months ago. I decided to make it take up half the page because that seemed to be the best option, it makes the text more compact. It uses the "max-width: 800px" attribute of "p" in a style section, so I think you can override the CSS to disable that?

>>905031

Center the damn headers and images at least. Use some fucking CSS. What will you do when you want to change one thing in the design? Edit all the articles by hand?

Also, the article list is fucking ugly. Small font and NOT CENTERED. There should be a small icon besides the software name. What will you do when the site has 100 articles?

>>905055

And the example article is, of course, terrible and doesn't explain shit. And isn't even consistent with the actual articles. Just delete it until you have something better.

>>905059

>>905055

I get it, I am thinking of doing something like having a few lists for different categories of software, and have them side by side. I've been slowly improving the site lately, by doing stuff like deleting the shitty "criteria guide", unifying the "spyware rating" (It used to use a few different types of rating systems, because everyone who wrote an article used their own scoring system for their articles) to one rating, and writing a few new articles, but as you can tell its still very messy and needs a lot of work.

>>905082

That's better, but you still need a global CSS file. The ability to change the design in one swoop is INVALUABLE. If you don't have that, any design change means EDITING EVERY INDIVIDUAL ARTICLE BY HAND. Imagine that with 100 of them.

>>905085

I understand, I'll look up how this stuff works.

You can tell that i'm no web-developer cause of how bad I am at this... I started fixing the site lately because Stallman's website links to the discord article, and now it gets a lot more traffic, so I don't want it to be so disappointing.

>>905094

Well I apologize for jumping on you then. I thought you were making a design like that on purpose (for some minimalistic bullshit reason).

Put <link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css"> in the <head> section of every article, and then put all the CSS in that file. For example, if you want to have all the titles centered, do:

h1 {text-align:center}

Even better is to use classes, because then you can use regular h1 for something else than titles. For example:

.title {text-align:center; font-size:20px; color: skyblue; font-family:Tahoma}

And then <h1 class=title>. If you change one parameter in the .title class, all the article titles will be affected! Isn't that convenient?

>>903941 (OP)

Why not just build a version without google?

>>903941 (OP)

>Time to switch?

Call me back when Firefox works with ALSA.

>>904536

No, the silk road retard got caught cuz he posted on the clearnet asking for help setting up a TOR service or something like that. They then used 2 undercover agents disguised as a couple to arrest him before he could turn off his machine while he was accessing TOR in a coffee shop.

Just watch this (one of the best defcon talks ever):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G1LjQSYM5Q

Thx for warning me I used that as secondary browser.

>>904416

Why are tripfags so retarded?

>>904432

>The only time you shouldn't use TOR is if you're doing online banking or stock trading and shit like that, because of the potential for MITM attacks.

online banking and stocks use SSL

not saying SSL is unbreakable, but it's pretty solid.

>>904437

>You do realize everyone who uses Tor even once gets on a list?

it's better to get on that list but have privacy

also people who visit 8ch go to similar list anyway.

>>904447

>But, rather, because there's no point in using an anonymity network when accessing services that are tied to your real identity anyway, like your bank account.

>But, yes, for all stuff not tied to one's real identity, one should be using Tor.

Strongly disagreed

using Tor with services with your real identity has a lot of sense:

-you hide your location. they cannot check in what country/city/ISP are you located in

-you hide your real IP, so they don't know what ISP you use, and what other activities are performed from your IP

-they don't know if it's really you using the service, or some other person that knows your credentials. you could claim someone else used your account to do some action

I use Tor only for Child Pornography

>>904729

google > "icecat-win64"

second link