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 No.899837>>899843 >>899846 >>899859 >>899862 >>900351 >>900357 >>900520 >>901664 >>908958 >>909605 >>909851 >>909941 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

In the last few years I have been feeling the ravages of a view affected by the light emitted from a computer screen

How you take care of your eyes?

Do you have some kind of treatment?

 No.899843>>899857

>>899837 (OP)

>How you take care of your eyes?

Go see your doctor who will recommend a specialist.

Specialist will propose you special glasses or monitor and a better everyday hygiene training.

>Do you have some kind of treatment?

Laser eye surgery.


 No.899846>>899856 >>899861

>>899837 (OP)

I heard running red-tinting software (flux, redshift, etc) full time can help


 No.899856

>>899846

In addtion to feeling drowsy/sleepy, it will make you feel your screen is worn and dying.


 No.899857>>899996 >>900357

>>899843

>Laser eye surgery.

Too risky. If it goes wrong, it will leave you semi-blind or blind. Even 1% risk is too much risk given how significant eyesight is.


 No.899859>>899860 >>901783

>>899837 (OP)

It's just eye fatigue. Its comparable to muscle fatigue and its not permanent damage

Just take your fucking eyes off the screen every once in awhile you fat lazy neckbeard


 No.899860>>900085

>>899859

>>Just take your fucking eyes off the screen every once in awhile you fat lazy neckbeard

Ohh man, I am informatic engineer I always do things on my computer. Normally I spent about 5 or 7 hours making homework


 No.899861

>>899846

Maybe is just my imagination but I feel that flux hurts my sight more. But in general I have a theme in all sites like google or 8ch


 No.899862>>899863

>>899837 (OP)

>ravages of a view

Please describe the symptoms you experienced in more detail. Was it affecting both eyes in the same way? Was it accompanied by headaches/dizzyness/nausea?


 No.899863

>>899862

>Please describe the symptoms you experienced in more detail. Was it affecting both eyes in the same way? Was it accompanied by headaches/dizzyness/nausea?

The worst symptom is that after using my computer I can not see from afar, I think that I have myopia.


 No.899877

Squirt a little lens cleaner in them and they're as good as new.


 No.899910

Turn on a light.


 No.899914>>899915 >>899973 >>900265 >>900357

Turn your monitor's brightness and color temperature down, use dark themes, turn on a light, wear uv blocking glasses. Get the "dark reader" addon for your browser.


 No.899915>>899974 >>900013

>>899914

>color temperature down

so make it less warm? Less "red-tinted"?


 No.899973>>899974 >>900049

>>899914

That's the meme. Redshift works well for me. Windows and newer versions of Ubuntu have it as a built in feature now.


 No.899974

>>899915

>>899973

I misread your post; redshift makes the temperature warmer, so more red tinted.


 No.899996>>900005 >>901983 >>902077

>>899857

>it will leave you semi-blind or blind

>implying it's a bad thing


 No.900005>>900010

>>899996

< 20 years salary for lifetime of blindness doesn't sound like a good deal.


 No.900010>>900017 >>900039

>>900005

No, it doesn't. What are you going to do, listen to audiobooks and music all day, assuming you can even somehow use a computer on your own to play audio stuff? Also enjoy learning Braille alphabet (the older you are the less chance of ever becoming proficient at it).


 No.900013>>900063

>>899915

No. It may sound counterintuitive, but lower color temperature is reddish (about 1500-4500 K), white is 6500 K, while higher (8000 and up) is blueish.

Anyway, why don't laptop screens have hardware controls like monitors do? All you can do about picture is in software on video driver level (which is usually much more limited than what a typical monitor's OSD menu provides).


 No.900017>>900039 >>902479

>>900010

Read the first sentence. She only went blind in one eye, the other one was left unharmed. No need for audiobooks or braile, you only lose your binocular depth perception, which doesn't matter if you are sitting in the front of your computer all day.


 No.900024

My eye is so long I have trouble staring up and down.


 No.900039

>>900010

He's using a weird backwards quote for some reason.

>>900017

Would you seriously give up one of your eyes for that kind of money?


 No.900049

>>899973

Even Windows has it now?

Its funny how after MacOS added built-in GNOME and Android followed quickly


 No.900063

>>900013

It's a common fashion to minimize the number of extra buttons and controls on a laptop.


 No.900085>>901956 >>901984

>>899860

>informatic engineer

>using computers at all

print those .pdfs anon


 No.900107

Look up eye yoga .. can't hurt. Basic eye movements to help keep the eyes healthy and de-fatigued, particularly useful for computer users. Look left .. look right .. etc.


 No.900108>>900200

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Lowest brightness possible and Redshift and a pair of Gunnar.


 No.900171>>900238

You gotta remove that blue tint to not fuck up your melatonin. You'll end up with what looks like a simulated degraded monitor but that's better than thyroid disorders.

If you're used to it, try turning off redshift and see immediately how it fucks with your eyes.

There's a nice native redshift feature in android nougat so better try that out too (there's red moon app that does the same and is stabler than flux or redshift app).

The point is don't expose yourself to too much blue so you won't end up with thyroid disease.

If you can, try using the original 2chan yotsuba theme (the red orange one)


 No.900200>>900203

>>900108

My newest prescription glasses have UV protective "blue blocker" lenses that are marketed towards computer use, same concept as the gunnar meme but they're hardly even tinted enough to be noticeable. Who knows if it makes any real difference but it's worth the extra $5 in case it does.


 No.900203>>900272

>>900200

eye glasses are uv protective most of the time, but if they don't affect the visible part of the em spectrum, they're not blue blockers


 No.900238>>900265

>>900171

>try turning off redshift and see immediately how it fucks with your eyes.

Yeah, that's crazy. I'm like totaly blinded by the blue light when I kill redshift.

And seriously, you don't see the "orangeness" at the end. I have a very agressive config (temp-day=3500 temp-night=2000 brightness-night=0.8), and I don't see the "orange" now at day.


 No.900265

>>900238

>>try turning off redshift and see immediately how it fucks with your eyes.

>Yeah, that's crazy. I'm like totaly blinded by the blue light when I kill redshift.

Same here. It's really crazy, like when I'm on a comfy dark interface and open up a browser that's all white. Thank god for that dark reader addon >>899914

And I agree. The orangeness stops being an issue after a while. My eyes adjust. Now I just need to adjust to lower brightness settings


 No.900272

>>900203

I think they're supposed to filter some of the blue from blue-white monitor light, and nothing else.


 No.900305>>900312

Does light behind the monitor help?


 No.900312>>900333

>>900305

>Does light behind the monitor help?

No, but general light from any lamp around you is better than being in the dark.


 No.900333>>900353

>>900312

b-but I like the dark


 No.900351

>>899837 (OP)

Make an appointment with an actual doctor with a medical degree in eyeballs - and MD, not a technician (an OD).

Go outside regularly. Get regular sunlight. Utilize your distance vision and spend substantial amounts of time focusing on objects at a variety of distances, not just a computer monitor 3 feet from your face.


 No.900353

>>900333

Enjoy your low light induced eye strain that will start bothering you in 10 years.


 No.900357>>900359 >>909942

>>899837 (OP)

>How you take care of your eyes?

<eyedrops

<regular breaks (5 minutes every 1-2 hours)

<manually blinking

<dark backgrounds

<using add-on to invert colors on websites with cancerous bright backgrounds.

fuck white backgrounds and the retard designers mimicking print on a screen.

>>899914

>dark reader

I prefer inverting colors outright ("invert colors") because blue links on plain websites have shit contrast on dark backgrounds.

>>899857

I've been told LASIK is relatively safe. You may need touch ups tho. Doctor said don't try it if you have dry eye.


 No.900359>>900362 >>900366

>>900357

<eyedrops

they're really bad unless you absolutely need it


 No.900362>>900369

>>900359

What is the reason for eyedrops being bad for your eyes?


 No.900366

>>900359

Doctor prescribed them to me.

I'll also wash my face throughout the day in summer because sweat and skin oil buildup make my eyes burn, especially if I apply my drops.


 No.900369

>>900362

Most on the counter eyedrops restrict the blood flow to your eyeballs, which is pretty bad.


 No.900520>>900522

>>899837 (OP)

Putting a cold wet towel on your eyes while you sleep helps them to relax over night so less/no strain carries over.


 No.900522

>>900520

or two slices of potato/cucumber


 No.901664

>>899837 (OP)

I have Gunnars, Uvex Blue Blockers (model S1933X), and Maui Jims. I've concluded computer displays act as a glare source no matter what osd settings you set, just due to the fact that you're basically staring into a light bulb. Overall The Maui Jims 9 layer space magic lens reduces eye strain the most out of those 3 glasses. None of the glasses eliminate eye strain, and I find at times I prefer wearing one of them over the others.

The best I've been able to do to minimize eye strain is to use a projector. The image reflected off a projector screen has caused the least amount of eye strain out of all display techs I've tried. And I've tried a lot. I've personally destroyed three lcd screens trying to figure out what was causing my eye strain. Taking them apart, changing backlights, changing light diffuses, peeling off polarization layers, using camera lens polarizers, various eyewear combos.

My current best eye strain minimization setup: Good quality projector, matte 1.0 gain projector screen, make the image as big as you can, sit as far away as you can.

For convenience: Portrait orient my IPS monitor and wear my Maui Jims,


 No.901683

flux, reduce brightness of screen, and potentially even wear special sunglasses / wavelength glasses if you can get a pair at a good price


 No.901699>>901978

stick to the terminal and use a printer as only output

e-ink laptop when?


 No.901783

>>899859

b-b-b-but then it will take me half an hour to get back into what i was working on!11


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>>900085

>print

Am I supposed to know what that is?


 No.901977>>901986

8ch hurts my eyes more than anything i've ever experienced before, (in a bloatware browser like palemoon where you can see CSS formatted content). I go to catalog mode and shitpost for half an hour and my eyes hurt after.


 No.901978>>901985 >>902311 >>902480

>>901699

I've been wanting an e-ink screen for ages. Even with a super high "pixel response time", it would still be worth it for reading I think. I think you can rip them out of the Kindle and output to them through USB or some shit, I forget. If I wasn't procrastinating on 5 projects already I'd be doing this


 No.901983

>>899996

1.7 million is literally nothing


 No.901984

>>900085

>print

no eInk reader nigger spotted


 No.901985>>902311

>>901978

Chinks make these, have a look on fleaBay if somebody sells them to Western countries.


 No.901986

>>901977

I've never come this far, my brain starts to hurt much sooner.


 No.902077

>>899996

not worth it. my eyes have some slight problems such as soreness (i'd reckon still almost 20/20 vision, but floaters throw off my focus), and I'd _still_ not take any amount of money to make them this bad


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 No.902311

>>901985

>>901978

Yeah people hotrodded the tiny Kindle screens and then there's shit like the Boox android tablets that can be rigged for 2nd screen usage, but i'm pretty sure you still get ghosting and the refresh was never quite there and still you're using a 6" screen or some shit. There is a 13" e-ink screen that's been out for awhile that goes into the high end Boox and other e-readers. It must have a usable refresh rate because there is at least one outfit selling a desktop monitor that uses the same screen... and they're charging $1,000+ for it.

There's also the reMarkable tablet that comes with a stylus and does Wacom-tier drawfaggotry... $500, but it must have good refresh, I would assume. Not sure what e-ink screen it uses, but again they all use the same screens last I checked. Other technologies like Pixel Qi are pretty much defunct i think, although people were dropping those screens in netbooks for awhile and it allowed daylight readability and no backlighting from their LCD.

We need to figure out what the most viable Thinkpad model(s) is... and the specific 10"-13" screen that could be dropped in with a custom adapter. I think what's holding the scene back, though, is the fact that the 10"+ e-ink screens are still pretty pricey and amazon hasn't been giving them away practically for free en masse like they did the earlier 6" e-ink kindles.


 No.902479>>908968

>>900017

Not everyone lives in Murrika where sueing for millions over all sorts of stuff and winning is commonplace. In eastern Yurop it would be "well, you agreed to the operation and the involved risk so tough luck I guess". A lawyer capable of winning damages in court would likely eat up most of it as their fee, and in addition you would end up having a record of a defiant patient who dared to fuck with surgeons (who pretty much enjoy demi-god status) in your healthcare file.


 No.902480

>>901978

So what ebook reader (preferably e-ink capable) is recommended around here? Anything Sansa Clip+/Thinkpad 420 comparable?


 No.902488>>902490

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Somewhat related - how do you get rid of color bleeding on an LCD TV? Reds, greens and blues are blotchy as fuck over HDMI and the fonts horrid. I've disabled (un)sharpness & noise filters to get rid of the halo effect but this is a major bummer compared to any older VGA monitor


 No.902490

>>902488

0xBADCAB1E


 No.908958

>>899837 (OP)

See an ophthalmologist. Your issues may actually be something that you need to have treated.


 No.908968>>909834

>>902479

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.


 No.909605

>>899837 (OP)

>How you take care of your eyes?

I don't. I once wore a pair of contacts for 1.5 years without removing them because I was too lazy to renew my prescription.


 No.909834

>>908968

found the african


 No.909851>>909923 >>909928

>>899837 (OP)

>How do you take care of your eyes?

I vacuum the place and wash the windows once every few years.

Does wonders for the air, especially after a lot of mould formed on the windows over the course of winter.


 No.909923>>909944

>>909851

Please elaborate.


 No.909928>>909944

>>909851

>I vacuum the place and wash the windows once every few years

anon, what is this vacuum and wash of which you speak?


 No.909941>>909942

>>899837 (OP)

>How you take care of your eyes?

>Do you have some kind of treatment?

I learned a trick from an old Shaolin monk, they train their eyes with two techniques. The first they count distant leaves in trees, bricks in buildings and tiles on roofs at the limit of their sight until it improves their long vision. The second they light a candle the other side of the room when they go to bed and stare at the flame for a few minutes. I do both although the second can be strenuous.

I read constantly but have never needed glasses.


 No.909942

>>900357

>>909941

>manually blinking

Also this, you may not realise but you blink a lot less staring at the screen which drys your eyes and makes you squint a lot more when your eyes feel dry and iritated outdoors.


 No.909944>>909945

>>909923

>Please elaborate.

I was being false facetious.

The mold is real, though. Of all the various chores one could (and should) do around the house, window washing is among my least favorite.

I have blinds though, especially in my computer room.

Thing is, this building is kinda old and during winter condensed water likes to accumulate on the window, which gives rise to a black spotty kind of mold.

It's not that big of a deal, until it grows a bit too much and starts releasing too many spores.

Then spring comes along and the sun shines on the window with the blind after it, trapping the warmth or something.

Wiping the shit off does seem to improve air quality, for I now have less troubles with dry, itching eyes and whatnot.

>>909928

>anon, what is this vacuum and wash of which you speak?

one thing is a loud tube like device that scares animals.

the other is the process of activating grime and microbes by giving them water and a damp environment which they can use to now latch onto you easier.


 No.909945

>>909944

>I was being false facetious.

>false

that's supposed to be half.

like, I am half asleep right now.




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