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 No.862976>>862988 >>863359 >>863370 >>863383 >>863716 >>864933 >>867567 >>868683 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Wayland hype thread!

KDE! ^_^

>Plasma is KDE's flagship product, offering the most customizable desktop environment available. The KDE community has the driving goal of making it simple by default, and powerful when needed.

>Important change of policy: 5.12 is the last release which sees feature development in KWin on X11. With 5.13 onwards only new features relevant to Wayland are going to be added.

https://www.kde.org/products/

https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.11.95.php

Sway! OwO

>Sway is tiling Wayland compositor and a drop-in replacement for the i3 window manager for X11.

>We also maintain the wlroots project to provide a modular basis for Sway and other Wayland compositors to build upon, and we publish standards for interopable Wayland desktops.

http://swaywm.org/

GNOME! :(

>An easy and elegant way to use your computer, GNOME 3 is designed to put you in control and get things done.

>Many core X contributors are eager to see us move to the next generation display system - after all Wayland was born and raised in the X community, and has strong support there.

https://www.gnome.org/

Liri! UwU

>An OS and apps built with modern design and features

>We're leveraging the latest and greatest Linux technologies, including OSTree, Wayland, Qt 5, and much more.

https://liri.io/

Enlightenment! ^.^

>Enlightenment started out way back in 1996 as a project to build a Window Manager for X11. It has grown much more since then. Enlightenment still produces this Window Manager, but it has evolved to also cover Mobile, Wearable and TV UI requirements for projects such as Tizen as well as the traditional “desktop” UI.

>Work is currently underway to land a complete Wayland compositor (stand-alone, no X11 needed) into the master branch of Enlightenment. At this stage, we are undergoing heavy testing and resolving any issues.

https://www.enlightenment.org/

https://www.enlightenment.org/about-wayland

 No.862986>>863654 >>868683

>Wayland enables features that are hard or impossible to support under X:

>input transformation

>transparent hardware overlays

>direct rendering

>isolating clients (sandboxing)

>makes it possible to reuse android drivers (https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris)

>per-crtc EGLSurfaces means repainting and swapping only the monitor where content changes

>smooth transition between composited desktop and fullscreen clients (no X unredirect flicker)

>eliminates lag between cursor and dragged windows (eg moving toplevels or dnd icons)

>better remote display

>...

https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland


 No.862987

From wikipedia:

"Wayland isolates the input and output of every window, achieving confidentiality, integrity and availability in both cases; the original X design lacks these important security features,[32][33][34] although some extensions have been developed trying to mitigate it.[35][36][37] Also, with the vast majority of the code running in the client, less code needs to run with root privileges, improving security.[32]"


 No.862988>>862991 >>863002 >>863012

>>862976 (OP)

>RH shills in the thread

get out and take Wayland with you.


 No.862991>>865844

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>>862988

meanie!


 No.863000>>863064

Is there moonrunes IME for Wayland yet? I can't live without my 萌え。 It's one of the few things holding me back.


 No.863002>>863003 >>863284

what the fuck is this shit

>>862988

Enjoy your bloated barely working display server that is held together by bubblegum and the blood and tears of basement dwellers.


 No.863003

>>863002

>what the fuck is this shit

true beauty


 No.863005>>863012

Is Wayland finally happening? I haven't even heard anything about it in years.


 No.863012>>863021 >>863748

>>862988

Red Hat is cancer but X11 is also cancer. Wayland is slightly less cancerous but still not perfect, we just haven't come up with anything better yet.

>>863005

Nvidia's autistic screeching and terrible drivers are holding back adoption.


 No.863021>>863022 >>863748

>>863012

Shieeet, no surprise. The only reason I'm using Windows right now is because I'm too lazy to jump through the hoops required to get Arch running with a modern Nvidia GPU. Never buying Nvidia again.


 No.863022>>863032 >>863748

>>863021

>Never buying Nvidia again

Good. Buy AMD until Nvidia stops being kikes and releases their driver as Free Software


 No.863028>>863030

I will stick with the devil I know (xorg) until there is a real impetus to switch. New features aren't an impetus, xorg becoming a legacy product that nobody supports anymore is.


 No.863030

>>863028

>New features aren't an impetus, xorg becoming a legacy product that nobody supports anymore is.

Say it ain't so.


 No.863032

>>863022

>wait until kikes stop being kikes

Should have just written "Buy AMD from now on".


 No.863046>>863050 >>863057 >>863076 >>863129 >>863150

Here's a better idea: just work to improve X11 instead. Problem solved. Wayland (and Mir, and any other X "replacements") is a waste of time and resources.


 No.863050>>864319

>>863046

>just work to improve X11 instead

If I remember correctly the X people were saying that creating and developing Wayland would be much easier than unfucking X11 at this point.

Also, Mir has been discontinued.


 No.863057

>>863046

>just work to improve X11 instead

You have no idea what kind of lovecraftian clusterfuck X11 is at this point. It's as far from suckless as you can possibly imagine and fixing it would take either a complete overhaul (you might as well dump it all and make something new from the ground up) or adding more extensions and therefore more bloat.


 No.863064

>>863000

I'm sure ibus supports Wayland , feel free to use it along with the rest of your redhat slash nsa kikery.


 No.863072>>863120

>doesn't support redshift

>every DE now has it's own night mode obviously inferior to redshift

But at least it doesn't expose remote desktop server by default, an upgrade over X server to be honest.


 No.863076>>863120

>>863046

X11 makes a lot of assumptions about graphics that is deprecate in today's environment. Wayland fixes this by discarding all these assumptions that were needed in the past and keeping only the functionality that is used in practice today.


 No.863106>>863120

File (hide): 8aad25610c5070b⋯.gif (348.71 KB, 500x282, 250:141, 1417037155900.gif) (h) (u)

Gayest OP I've ever seen.


 No.863120>>863148

>>863106

*giggles* yes I am quite faggy!

>>863072

I wonder if redshift-type functionality could be a component or extension of some sort to that wlroots thing?

>>863076

>X11 makes a lot of assumptions about graphics that is deprecate in today's environment.

I know this is true, as I hear it everywhere from random anons to the original X devs, but could you provide some examples of these assumptions? I'm curious.


 No.863129

>>863046

They did that for 5 years, you don't understand, they actually tried.


 No.863148>>863760

>>863120

Disclaimer: I haven't touched X11 programming because I've never needed to touch it.

The X11 protocol specifies functions for drawing text. Modern desktop environments don't use X11 functions for drawing text. The X11 protocol specifies functions for drawing shapes. Modern desktop environments don't use any of those functions.


 No.863150

>>863046

There is no dichotomy between Wayland and X11. It is technically possible to run an X11 server on top of Wayland thus you would have full X11 functionality with Wayland.


 No.863178

Does XFCE support it yet?


 No.863211

Will it be possible to develop apps with GNUSTEP to support Wayland? I would love to see a WM like Windowmaker have Wayland support.


 No.863257>>864202

plasma sucks fuck you.


 No.863272>>863367

What exactly are the compatibility limits of Wayland? Does it have any effect on applications? Can I drop it into any distro? Are there any lightweight Wayland DEs aside from meme-tier tiling WMs?


 No.863284>>863347 >>863351 >>863367

>>863002

X has worked for decades (whether original X11, XFree86, or Xorg). You were saying the same about sysvinit, and now most everyone is stuck with the mostrosity that is systemd. What's the guarantee it won't turn out the same with Wayland? Where's the guarantee that once it has replaced Xorg everywhere it won't become hard-dependent on systemd?


 No.863347

>>863284

Except it's the reverse situation from sysv vs systemd. Wayland is MUCH closer to the Unix way than Xorg. Much easier to maintain too.


 No.863350

The only worth feature for desktops window manager system in this thread is Swaywm. The rest are fucking garbage.


 No.863351>>863655

>>863284

X11 and Wayland are not a dichotomy. When it's completed, you are allowed to run an X server that runs under Wayland.

Did you know that Wayland is developed by the core X.org developers? They started the Wayland project because they have an intimate understand of what x.org does, how the desktop environments use it in practice today and why x.org has superfluous functionality that isn't used in practise today. Wayland is designed to do what x.org does in practise without the backwards compatible baggage that doesn't get used.


 No.863359>>863368

>>862976 (OP)

>^_^

>OwO

>:(

>UwU

>^.^


 No.863367>>863645

>>863272

I hear LXQT may be moving over after they make the switch from Openbox and Kwin

>>863284

I don't get this argument. So Wayland is something that's being shoved down everyone's throats? I don't see an issue with that, considering that X has been shoved down our throats since the 80s.


 No.863368>>863949 >>865844

File (hide): 737a3d858b8c96b⋯.jpg (25.47 KB, 274x259, 274:259, hugs.jpg) (h) (u)

>>863359

But I love you!


 No.863370>>863371

>>862976 (OP)

>Wayland

Cool shit and no systemd, no dbus, no.. oh wait..

>freedesktop

Well, that's it. It's going to get worse and worse and worse...


 No.863371

>>863370

OMG that's so true!

Wayland actually does not depend on systemd!


 No.863383>>863384

>>862976 (OP)

I wish they would have called it X12. Just for the continuity.


 No.863384>>863403 >>863414

>>863383

The X windowing system is designed for network transparency. Wayland is not designed for network transparency. There's no reason why we can't write an X12 server to target Wayland when the X12 protocol is finalized.


 No.863403>>863488

>>863384

>There's no reason why we can't write an X12 server

so you mean adding more duct tape to the ball of duct tape?


 No.863414>>863420

>>863384

why isn't network transparency in Wayland? I know one of the developers brushed it off by saying X11 doesn't have it because of some of the extensions not supporting it, but that isn't an explanation why Wayland shouldn't be network transparent.


 No.863420

>>863414

this is quite a good explanation:

https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/08/thoughts-about-network-trancparency/

>tl;dr: network transparency in a window system is only important if the window system does the rendering, which nowaday mostly isn't the case with X11, it just receives the pixels to display. Network transparency needs to be supported in the toolkit, instead.


 No.863435

Man I’ll give a shit when Sway 1.0 hits and I can set the refresh rate of my monitor

Unless I can do that now? All I saw with output was positioning and resolution


 No.863488>>863579

>>863403

There are people who complain about Wayland because it has no network capabilities. This is a false dichotomy. It will be possible to add in X11 protocol support for the people who demand it and leave it out for everyone else. In fact, you can add support all kinds of protocols like VNC or NX. These will not be mandatory and can be left out when it's not needed.


 No.863579>>863637

>>863488

Ah but you fail to realize that Wayland is a redhat free desktop project. All of those protocols will be added in due time. Along with a load of other shit it doesn't need. Meanwhile the rest of us will stay comfy on xenocara.


 No.863637>>863644

>>863579

>All of those protocols will be added in due time. Along with a load of other shit it doesn't need.

but anon that's the exact opposite of what Wayland is designed to be.


 No.863644>>863760

>>863637

>but anon that's the exact opposite of what Init is designed to be.


 No.863645>>863763

>>863367

>LXQT

>kwin

What?


 No.863654>>863656 >>863715

>>862986

you know what it doesn't support? doing X over the network.


 No.863655>>863726

>>863351

Did you know that all freedesktop.org projects, including wayland and X.org, now operate under the Contributor's Covenant?


 No.863656>>863786

>>863654

Why the bloody hell would you even want to do that? It's insecure, and not supported by modern X extensions.


 No.863715

>>863654

That doesn't matter. Use your X server if that's what you want.


 No.863716>>863764

>>862976 (OP)

Cute!


 No.863726>>863786

>>863655

I don't care. That has nothing to do with Wayland. I care about code, not bullying.


 No.863748

>>863022

>>863021

>>863012

Can confirm, Nvidia's autistic screeching is making it incredibly difficult to run linux with their shitty drivers. There is a bug with either X or xrandr where if you have two monitors each plugged into a different graphics card, the most you'll be able to do is get the second monitor to turn on (but it will still be black with the X cursor). The only ways to fix this are to enable xinerama (which is honestly a pile of hot garbage) or just plug both of your monitors into the same GPU.


 No.863757

>no deepin


 No.863760

>>863644

bad comparison. systemd afaik was cancer from the very beginning, and it was meant to be as big as it is. Wayland is designed to be smaller than Xorg, transferring part of the workload to the implementations rather than having a highly bloated standard.

See: >>863148

The legacy X11 stuff for this may have been useful at one point, but is currently just bloat. By transferring a lot of this stuff to the implementations, they can add whatever features are needed at the time, and when they become ancient and unneeded, they will die with that particular DE project rather than being stuck in the protocol forever.


 No.863763>>863770

>>863645

kwin from my understanding is the underlying window manager for KDE.

LXDE was a very lightweight GTK+ based DE. It is being replaced by LXQT.

LXQT is a rewrite of LXDE using Qt.

Both of them, at this point, use Openbox as the WM.

However, I heard that the LXQT project wants to switch to using Kwin as their WM. That way, they will have an avenue to be able to jump to Wayland.

This is because Openbox does not support wayland (and I don't think it's been updated in a few years).


 No.863764>>863771 >>865844

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>>863716

d-do you really think im a cute?


 No.863770

>>863763

I know what kwin is but isn't it a bit bloated for lxde/qt? If they continue to add more kde stuff in, wouldn't it defeat the purpose of lxde as a whole? Since the only reason they could compete is because they're more lightweight than xfce right?

If their memory usage exceeded a certain amount, I might as well use kde and manually uninstall the bloat.


 No.863771>>863775

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 No.863775>>863776 >>865844

File (hide): 2b19da9c71a4735⋯.jpg (37.24 KB, 500x462, 250:231, kiss.jpg) (h) (u)

>>863771

kissy-kissy~


 No.863776


 No.863786>>863964 >>864161

>>863656

have you never done that? it's secure on the network atleast with ssh. it's damn convenient if you need to run some gui shit on a remote server for some reason and you don't want to go through all the bullshit of setting up VNC or similar.

>not supported by modern X extensions.

I've never had any problems running whatever I wanted to run, browsers, chat clients, gparted, etc, "modern X extensions" are apparently overrated. I wouldn't expect any 3d accelerated shit to work though.

>>863726

that's nice, because anyone who adopt's the contributor's covenant cares more about bullying than code.


 No.863949>>864130 >>864365

File (hide): 8bb0b0de92cc807⋯.jpg (47.48 KB, 564x693, 188:231, love-you-too.jpg) (h) (u)

>>863368

I love your cheerful spirit.


 No.863964

>>863786

No. You are a liar.


 No.864031>>864064

Am I autistic for spelling OwO as /o:wo:/ or UwU as /u:wu:/?

Because I think these smileys also represent a "cute" questioning sound sound.


 No.864064

>>864031

Don't worry, I do that to. I think it would be more autistic to think that you shouldn't subvocalize the emoticons as something for some arbitrary reason.


 No.864065>>864131


 No.864130>>865844

File (hide): 8deab2f364aa620⋯.jpg (77.78 KB, 700x538, 350:269, pika.jpg) (h) (u)

>>863949

I'm glad you do!

Heres a pika!


 No.864131

>>864065

Sway confirmed for best project ever.

I will definitely use it when I get the chance.


 No.864161

>>863786

It is still not secure. Also I have done it but I've never had to use it with my SBC. All the tools work through SSH or serial console (rtorrent, toxic, libreboot flashing stuff).


 No.864178>>864179 >>864255

File (hide): 63282236a1cab3a⋯.jpg (45.38 KB, 466x423, 466:423, i'm too gay for this shit.jpg) (h) (u)

Are you one of those /g/ kids that fell for the trap meme?


 No.864179>>864194 >>864311 >>864365 >>865844

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File (hide): f4410df59b9777f⋯.jpg (188.59 KB, 850x1126, 425:563, boy.jpg) (h) (u)

>>864178

shota meme is the best meme!


 No.864194>>864311 >>864397

File (hide): 698b889c8f52bc6⋯.jpg (29.05 KB, 257x231, 257:231, pretty gay.jpg) (h) (u)

>>864179

I like boys too but OwOposting and roleplaying as one is another level.


 No.864202

>>863257

Little green dude a cute tho


 No.864255

>>864178

It doesn’t matter if you’re a boy or a girl as long as you’re cute.


 No.864311>>864314 >>864315

>>864179

>>864194

Anime is for niggers.


 No.864314


 No.864315

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 No.864319>>864320 >>864401

>>863050

But aren't those the same people who royally fucked up X11 to begin with? It used to be a simpler and safer system, before they added all that DRM and related shit. This talk is informative:

https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5499_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312291830_-_x_security_-_ilja_van_sprundel

At the very end, one of the quesions is if it's safer to run X like in the old days, such as via plain Vesa driver. And the researcher agrees that this would significantly avoid most of the deep security problems.

But they don't want to fix X11 and the problems they made. They just want to start over and make a brand new mess. I'll be using framebuffer console instead.


 No.864320

>>864319

That's fine as long as you don't mind CPU rendering everything


 No.864365

>>864179

>>863949

These posts make me happy.


 No.864397>>865566 >>865844 >>866896 >>866899 >>866904 >>866905

File (hide): 38592ff5f6ff6ba⋯.jpg (35.84 KB, 480x480, 1:1, aww.jpg) (h) (u)

>>864194

>I like boys too

d-do you like me?


 No.864401>>864457 >>864518 >>864628

>>864319

>one of the quesions is if it's safer to run X like in the old days

>And the researcher agrees that this would significantly avoid most of the deep security problems

Really? hmm let's see what that entails...

>such as via plain Vesa driver

yeah no.

From https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc3Nw

>Approximately 1.5% of the survey respondents were using the xf86-video-vesa driver.

>This seems like a rather high percentage considering the xf86-video-vesa driver just implements the basic standard VESA core to provide very basic user mode-setting on most graphics cards and monitors, but half the time it won't even mode-set to the monitor's native resolution. The VESA driver does not implement any hardware acceleration besides support for a shadow frame-buffer (ShadowFB) on the CPU, does not support X-Video, there is no power management, and is basically only good for starting the X Server in effectively a fail-safe mode if you happened to break your proper X.Org driver or xorg.conf configuration and are need to get back into an X Server as you restore your system's graphics stack.


 No.864403>>864408 >>864518

>expected wayland thread

>got the gay community


 No.864408

>>864403

*giggles*


 No.864419>>864454 >>864878

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GO THE FUCK AWAY YOU GODDAMN HOMO HERETICAL CUCKCHAN GAY PEDOPHILE TRAP AIDS ANAL CANCER FAGGOTS


 No.864454>>864461

>>864419

>bumps the thread while telling people to fuck off

:^)


 No.864457

>>864401

so they just measured a proxy for arch users


 No.864461

>>864454

If I saged, it would be letting you derail a perfectly fine wayland thread, you fagaloon.


 No.864518>>864529

>>864401

> >one of the quesions is if it's safer to run X like in the old days

> >And the researcher agrees that this would significantly avoid most of the deep security problems

> Really? hmm let's see what that entails...

> >such as via plain Vesa driver

> yeah no.

Normie's like yourself need not apply . It's no surprise that the (((extensions))) are where all the bugs are. Many of them are absolute cancer that had no business being submitted to upstream X. Luckily openbsd has made most of these bucks ineffective since x is running with less privileges then your standard user.

>>864403

It wasn't unexpected.


 No.864529>>864638

>>864518

So we shouldn't be able to have hardware acceleration? We shouldn't be able to use our monitors at their native res?


 No.864574>>864912 >>865007

>wayland

isn't thigs what gnome gtk runs on faggots this has been out 20 years fuck you op. i;m from /pol/ and even i know this.

>20 years late

CUCK


 No.864628

File (hide): ca3e19ad79b75e0⋯.png (7.36 KB, 964x580, 241:145, xenocara.png) (h) (u)

>>864401

I used the Vesa X server just fine for years on a Thinkpad with Pentium-M. More recently I tried it with a new-ish amd64 craptop, and couldn't drop out of X without having a fucked console. Switching to the wsfb driver fixed all that, and also allowed closing the aperture entirely.

https://man.openbsd.org/xf86

https://man.openbsd.org/wsfb

I'd still much rather use a framebuffer console, but mine only supports text for whatever reason. It's recognized as "efifb" at boot.

> wsdisplay0 at efifb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0

https://man.openbsd.org/efifb

Kind of confusing really. I guess some more work is needed.


 No.864638>>864652

File (hide): d50df93ee9db9f9⋯.png (51.68 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 2011-02-21.png) (h) (u)

>>864529

Well my Thinkpad ran ok at 1024x768, which was its native resolution. But I really like pixels, so I always ran it at 800x600. Pic-ralated is an old screenshot from that machine.

As for OpenGL, I never needed or cared for it because I don't play modern games ever. I could play stuff like Duke Nukem 3D and Quake in dosbox just fine though.

Even Firefox ran mostly ok under those conditions. Actually it ran much smoother than recent Firefox does on my amd64 with 8x as much memory. I'm still using a dumb framebuffer (wsfb instead of vesa) but Firefox seems to have gotten much worse. But it's not something I like to run anyway. Links -g ftw!


 No.864652>>864674

>>864638

>Well my Thinkpad ran ok at 1024x768, which was its native resolution. But I really like pixels, so I always ran it at 800x600.

yeah I don't think most people are going to be all that enthusiastic about going back to those kinds of resolutions. 1080p and 1440p are pretty standard right now, with 4k also becoming popular.

>As for OpenGL, I never needed or cared for it because I don't play modern games ever. I could play stuff like Duke Nukem 3D and Quake in dosbox just fine though.

Random question, if ya don't mind. Would that system have been capable of running Valve's goldsrc games? (CS 1.6, HL1)

>Even Firefox ran mostly ok under those conditions. Actually it ran much smoother than recent Firefox does on my amd64 with 8x as much memory. I'm still using a dumb framebuffer (wsfb instead of vesa) but Firefox seems to have gotten much worse.

Maybe you should give Pale Moon a shot. It's forked from older firefox.

>Links -g ftw!

can you shitpost from it?


 No.864674>>865024

>>864652

I pretty much only ever post here with Links, so yeah it works. Just won't work on 4chan or places that need javascript.

No idea about those games you mentioned. Quake was the last game I got into. After that they started wanting 3D cards and/or Windows, so I never bothered. But basically any old DOS game that only needed a regular SVGA card would have also worked fine on my old laptop setup.

CSBWin worked great on there too. Sadly it no longer does on amd64. And it probably never will, given that it's a line-by-line conversion of 68000 assembly to 32-bit C++ equivalents, line by line...

http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/851


 No.864878>>865024

>>864419

>meh gay commie meme

>WWE wrestlers are gay

Are you mad that OP isn't posting "bara" uwu?

>>>/bara/


 No.864912>>865006 >>865007

>>864574

>i;m from /pol/

You didn't need to say that. It's obvious from the incomprehensible grammar, low level of knowledge on the subject, and the need to yell cuck in every post.


 No.864933>>865005 >>865024

>>862976 (OP)

what wayland capable DE uses least RAM?


 No.865005>>865024 >>865324

>>864933

Xorg and FVWM is still lighter, but, probably the GNOME-RedHat-Fedora one


 No.865006>>865007

>>864912

hey /leftypol/


 No.865007>>865047

>>864574

>>864912

>>865006

>trying this hard to start a /pol/ vs /leftypol/ shit fight

Please leave, you are not welcomed here.


 No.865024>>865324 >>865844

File (hide): d72afc5de1a949b⋯.png (586.86 KB, 800x600, 4:3, CS.png) (h) (u)

File (hide): 186370266590cc8⋯.png (206.58 KB, 1123x547, 1123:547, KDE.png) (h) (u)

File (hide): 442f73358d0ea7f⋯.png (511.39 KB, 900x1252, 225:313, boy.png) (h) (u)

>>864674

Yeah, CS 1.6 came out around 1999-2000, and had graphics like first pic related.

>>864933

>>865005

Actually i'd say Sway would have the least RAM usage

you may or may not consider that a DE though. If you're looking for something bigger, I think KDE at this point uses less RAM than GNOME, so maybe check that out.

GNOME is probably the most complete implementation of Wayland, but due to KDE now focusing all of their development efforts on Wayland and ending their X developments, I can see them catching up fast. Second pic related is some info from KDE project

>>864878

OMG u say uwu are u a cute person? u get third pic related!


 No.865047>>865519

>>865007

Neither are you, /g/


 No.865267>>865465 >>865516 >>866069

File (hide): cd74638b2fc38bd⋯.jpg (121.43 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, OPSECed_screenfetch.jpg) (h) (u)

>This kills the Waylandnite


 No.865290>>865291

File (hide): 88efbeda0a4a24c⋯.jpeg (87.03 KB, 850x692, 425:346, sugoi.jpeg) (h) (u)

Go away norgay.


 No.865291

File (hide): 4a2ab589928509d⋯.png (368.53 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, OPSEC.png) (h) (u)


 No.865324>>865511

>>865005

>>865024

yeah im not hardcore enough for sway or fvwm...

isnt there something like mate level?

just enough to make it usable?


 No.865465

>>865267

>That theme

On one hand I like it, but on the other it looks too much like windows it triggers my autism


 No.865511

>>865324

Nothing yet. KDE and GNOME are your choices for DE-style on Wayland. I heard somewhere LXQT would be moving to wayland after they make the switch from Openbox to Kwin though, so look out for that.


 No.865516

>>865267

>that shitty theme

this is why we need wayland


 No.865519

>>865047

>everyone i don't like is /g/

You're fitting in


 No.865566>>865684 >>865702

File (hide): 22176cc9d6db001⋯.png (190.79 KB, 394x588, 197:294, concerned_anime_boy.png) (h) (u)

>>864397

Do you look like a cute anime boy or a greasy fag in rainbow stockings who thinks his bangs cover his acne scars?


 No.865684>>865844

File (hide): 01dc35061eb79a5⋯.gif (729.72 KB, 500x671, 500:671, sE1VxNK.gif) (h) (u)

>>865566

umm... neither?


 No.865702

>>865566

>bangs covering acne scars

Let me tell you how I know you're in middle school.


 No.865844>>865944

File (hide): b4e36da19053cc7⋯.jpg (93.68 KB, 800x533, 800:533, where-you-belong.jpg) (h) (u)


 No.865944>>865990

File (hide): c49ec73e9bbd403⋯.jpg (54.12 KB, 564x758, 282:379, cyuutie.jpg) (h) (u)

>>865844

are u baking cookies, mister?


 No.865990>>866023 >>866044

>>865944

GOD YOU'RE SO FUCKING ANNOYING I JUST WANNA HATE-FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR TIGHT ASS YOU GODDAMN FAGGOT!


 No.866023>>866042 >>866528

File (hide): b22d51a568fca60⋯.jpg (49.47 KB, 475x451, 475:451, boy.jpg) (h) (u)

>>865990

in my butt? OwO!!

Also, back on topic, what's the most minimal terminal emulator that's native on Wayland?


 No.866037>>866047 >>866050

File (hide): b1c16fa6172e4d7⋯.webm (983.64 KB, 978x550, 489:275, b1c16fa6172e4d7345829c0a8….webm) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

Jesus just fuck off already.


 No.866042>>866124

>>866023

Windows Powershell


 No.866044

File (hide): df651d47cb79299⋯.jpg (59.35 KB, 806x640, 403:320, bah.jpg) (h) (u)

>>865990

Just fuck a boy, already. Pay for it if you have to. That'll either cure or convince you of your faggotry.


 No.866046>>866128

This is probably the gayest, most cancerous thread on all of 8chan right now

Please keep going though seriously. This is the thread this shit board deserves tbh


 No.866047>>866052

>>866037

Do you expect me to understand that moon gibberish?


 No.866050

>>866037

Don't you at least understand the gavel noises? It also writes guilty in big letters.


 No.866052

File (hide): 36649b49f460b8b⋯.mp4 (900.17 KB, 306x320, 153:160, 36649b49f460b8bfd9db23d8fa….mp4) (h) (u) [play once] [loop]

>>866047

Don't play dumb you know what she said.


 No.866069>>866124

>>865267

Yea its great having xorg where any program can screen record your whole destkop no security issues there nope not at all


 No.866124>>866528

>>866069

wew

>>866042

that's not a Wayland-native terminal emulator.


 No.866128

File (hide): 951255169b07056⋯.jpg (33.63 KB, 500x645, 100:129, kitten.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): 24f17fadb9f7001⋯.jpg (188.3 KB, 506x726, 23:33, Kagamine.Len.full.1245073.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): bf2c10cc46c9572⋯.jpg (44.63 KB, 480x672, 5:7, fishy.jpg) (h) (u)

>>866046

This should really be the first thread anyone reads on their first visit to 8ch.

>"Hi! Welcome to 8chan! Do you want to pet the kittens? ^.^"


 No.866528

>>866023

>>866124

bumping for a terminal emulator


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 No.866906>>866938

oops didnt mean to quintuple post above, the onion link didnt work properly for a minute. codemonkey needs to fix it


 No.866938

File (hide): 4ca8d0c01aa16b7⋯.jpg (35.27 KB, 480x587, 480:587, hugs.jpg) (h) (u)


 No.867567>>867578 >>875088

>>862976 (OP)

This OP gave me AIDS


 No.867575

So, /tech/ is going from furry to gay shota catboys.


 No.867578>>867668

>>867567

Don't bump the thread you idiot! Now the gay pedo will come back!


 No.867668

File (hide): f0b1524b94d84bc⋯.jpg (29.19 KB, 600x315, 40:21, owo.jpg) (h) (u)

>>867578

Hi!!!

one of these i think is a loli though but its ok because OwO


 No.867689>>868054

please let this cancerous thread die already


 No.868054

File (hide): 82ceb3d7fc93c73⋯.png (466.47 KB, 761x823, 761:823, mad.png) (h) (u)


 No.868063>>868074 >>868294

Don't give up, waylandfren! Teach these teenbros that boys can be cute, too!


 No.868074

File (hide): 97757c85463d018⋯.jpg (27.94 KB, 510x546, 85:91, uwu.jpg) (h) (u)

>>868063

>boys can be cute too

omg yes its true heres another kitten hes getting his cheek tickled with a plant so silly! ^_^


 No.868294

File (hide): 359fece0c10aadd⋯.png (144.49 KB, 500x595, 100:119, woof.png) (h) (u)

>>868063

And heres another he sez woof but hes got kitty wiskers


 No.868353>>868379

That's the gayest OP, i feel bad for Wayland to attract the kind of faggatory.

>^_^ OwO :( UwU ^.^

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHhh


 No.868379

File (hide): ac265b856554aff⋯.jpg (431.81 KB, 1000x863, 1000:863, lazor.jpg) (h) (u)

>>868353

*giggles* are you mad, mister?

This boy is shooting lazors!


 No.868672>>869367

File (hide): 34397975d8594b3⋯.png (241.26 KB, 500x518, 250:259, kissyboys.png) (h) (u)

OMG this is my favorite

.

.

.

K I S S Y B O Y S ! ! !


 No.868683>>869462

>>862976 (OP)

>Wayland

literally who?

>Gnome

cancer

>Liri! UwU

>>An OS and apps built with modern design and features

confirmed meme

>>We're leveraging the latest and greatest Linux technologies

double confirmed

>>862986

isolation is a meme. nixtards don't have a clue about security. it took them 500 years to even figure out X has problems


 No.869362>>869462

I honestly haven't had this much fun in a thread since the libbie happenings. Thanks OP ^w^


 No.869367>>869462 >>870045

File (hide): 5686cb48d024bb4⋯.jpg (53.08 KB, 450x510, 15:17, Gays 3.jpg) (h) (u)


 No.869462

File (hide): 39fda63ed4105e2⋯.jpg (117.38 KB, 953x1024, 953:1024, hiiiiii.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): 985c6d9470390c8⋯.jpeg (35.59 KB, 616x611, 616:611, OwOboy.jpeg) (h) (u)

>>869362

You're welcome! I'm glad you like it.

>>869367

umm... mister, are you the guy who wanted hate-fuck me and bake cookies?

>>868683

>literally who?

Its the future of GNU/Linux windowing systems!

>cancer

that true. thats why I put a frowny face on that one.

>confirmed meme

At least it uses Qt instead of GTK.

>it took them 500 years to even figure out X has problems

yes it does and now we're fixing them. With Wayland!!


 No.870045>>875088

File (hide): 780aa839198513d⋯.jpg (25.18 KB, 640x637, 640:637, aww.jpg) (h) (u)

>>869367

m-mister? Do you still want to bake cookies and fuck?


 No.875088

>>867567

#bugged

>>870045

are you still around?

post screenfetch or neofetch




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