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install gentoo

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86

Just fucking install Gentoo.

I set my CHOST to i486-pc-linux-gnu, -march=i486, and -mtune=i486 set in CFLAGS. This way I have a set of highly compatible Gentoo stage and packages ready to go for old systems. I'm even building ZFS into it (... and everybody says ZFS doesn't work in 32bit. That's bullshit it worked fine on a P4 HT I ran it on in the past!)

>>834451 (OP)

They wiped all the pure x86 repos? There's something (((suspicious))) about that. In either case install gentoo. I think puppy linux still has pure x86 builds if you don't want the meme distro.

http://crunchbang.linuxfreedom.com/download.html

I had an old Kali distro lying around, but I think it's gone now.

32 bit Devuan and Debian are still doing fine anon.

>>834458

>removing ancient shit that has no purpose because everything made in the past 10 years is 64 bit compatible and eternally supporting obsolete shit is retarded is "suspicious"

>>834458

Disk space, compiler time. What percentage of home computers with Linux installed use 32 bit computers? I'd say less than 2%. It's a waste of time and energy to cater for this absolutely minuscule group. Pre-compiled software is a matter of convenience, it is not a necessary part of computing.

>>834573

>. What percentage of home computers with Linux installed use 32 bit computers? I'd say less than 2%

You must be kidding.

Most packages are compiled for 32bit architectures, that's why on Arch you'll have probably multilib enabled and the i386 architecture added on Debian.

Just install Slackware anon. "Bob" will never let you down.

>>834582

You did not answer the question.

>>834573

So I guess developing Linux itself is a waste of time, since less than 1% of people use it.

As well as any web browser that isn't Chrome or Firefox.

>>834598

Linux is probably the kernel that's the most widely used in the world. The 1% Lignux figure is only for desktop machines. The total Linux install base is far larger than that.

Meme distros tend to only support one architecture. I'd recommend Debian instead.

https://archlinux32.org/

Parabola GNU/Linux supports 32bit iirc.

>>834614

>Linux is probably the kernel that's the most widely used in the world.

Actually Minix' kernel is the most widely used. Thanks, Intel.

>>834582

>that's why on Arch you'll have probably multilib enabled

rg -NA 1 "\[multilib\]" /etc/pacman.conf
#[multilib]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

>>834641

>rg

:^)

>>834637

My guess is that the number of Intel IME chips worldwide is still smaller than the number of Linux installs worldwide.

>>834451 (OP)

manjaro still has 32bit isos, so i assume it supports 32bit still. you can try looking into switching from arch to manjaro repos to see if its possible. otherwise perhaps a fresh install may be needed

https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/release/17.0.6/

LInux Mint still has 32bit

>>834451 (OP)

>awesome X60

>not having a top end X60 with the T7200 CPU

>>834646

Android doesn't count, you street shitter.

Use Artix

>>834458

>puppy linux

Basically amateur-hour os.

>>834451 (OP)

>Does anyone know where anon can find 32 bit packages or repos after this yuge wipe?

http://microsoft.com/windows

Fuck off back to where you were a month ago, you lazy ignorant shitbag.

>>834701

Why would you sage this thread you jealous nobody?

Why not install a 64 bit distro? From what I just saw, that laptop seems to have a 64 bit CPU.

>>834731

http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-thinkpad-x60-review-pics-specs/

Down to the same model?

>>834451 (OP)

Try BSD

>>834758

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X60

Yes.

>>834451 (OP)

gentoo, slackware, free/net/openBSD. debian if you are ok with systemd botnet.

>>834866

>debian if you are ok with systemd botnet

no need, just go with devuan

If everyone didn't already know arch is a giant cia nigger/red hat shill system u should get it now. switching to systemd and breaking everyone's shit?

removing all support for older hardware ?

whats the next step in "progress" ??

The people with money do NOT like linux

>>836318

Microsoft <3 Linux

>>834860

Ok, and any of those 3 cpus are not 64 bits? I thought intel made only 64 bit cpus since p4.

>>836318

>why cant i install elite hacker arch lunix on my 20 year old shittop

>why arch use systemd im too retarded learning something new

>i am translator sorry english

>>836332

The original Yonah Core Solos and Core Duos are 32-bit. X60s equipped with 64-bit Core 2 Duos are very rare.

In addition to Yonah, some 2008-2009 Atom CPUs are also 32-bit.

>>834457

> and everybody says ZFS doesn't work in 32bit.

There was a time where the developers dropped support for ZFS on 32bit systems.

OpenZFS brought back compatibility.

You can also run ZFS on low memory machines, although I wouldn't suggest it.

why the fuck is anyone using 32-bit

>>834731

Can I put a RISC-V based SOC or BGA chip on the mainboard then if the power and voltage going to that section where the old proccessor socket is at, exceeds what it needs?

>>836586

Backwards compatibility. Much old windows software was compiled for x86 in 16bit and 32bit modes. Most consumer x86_64 linux distro's include 32bit and 64bit libraries for backwards compatibility. If you aren't doing gaming and you are going for battery life while using a web browser then go for a pure 64 bit distro. If you want legacy software/vidya then go x86_64 with 32 and 64 bit libs. I am not sure if there is a distro with pure 64 bit builds other then gentoo.

>>836586

muh memory

>>836589

no, that's not how it works, at least with current off the shelf parts

>>836512

It's fine as long as you don't turn deduplication on.

>>836586

In embedded, many platforms aren't 64 bit yet.

836586

im using an ia32 sub notebook because its very portable and i have no real reason to go 64 when im only using 1 gig of ram.

>>836857

https://youtu.be/Qt9MP70ODNw

This is why I use Debian. I really wish they still had official PPC32/64 and SPARC support, but they had it for the longest time when everyone else ditched a decade ago. I am 100% sure they will have i386/i686 support into 2020's. Their goal isn't to be bleeding edge. Arch will always be bleeding edge. There's nothing wrong with that, but you can't expect to use old hardware/software on that distro. That's not who its for.

>>836586

muh poorly ported videogames

>>836586

As far as I can tell, its pretty much industry standard for anything older than 5 years

>thats not true

Its also false that tons of businesses run xp right?

Right?

>>836591

>>836586

>>836592

My 64-bit Atom netbook has 1 GB of memory. What should I do? (inb4 replace it) Can you justify installing a 64-bit OS on it over the 32-bit version?

>>834675

Only if by Linux you mean GNU/Linux, otherwise yes Android literally is Linux you retard. This shit annoys me more than people who insist ChromeOS somehow isn't Linux despite literally just being custom gentoo.

install gentto

>>846105

Install GNU GuixSD with HURD, or as an alt Debian GNU/HURD

>>846103

Let me interject for a moment to blather about obscure naming conventions backed by freeturd logic and sperg terminology.

>>846103

When people say "Linux" they're referring to the hackable desktop OS that typically comes with GNU. Besides, the Android kernel is heavily modified Linux; it doesn't even support ext, which is literally the Linux filesystem. You could just as easily call it a different kernel.

>>846404

My Android system lists multiple ext4 partitions.

>>834451 (OP)

linux lite. I know people dont like using open source stuff when it says lite on the packaging but the truth is that it works really well with a lot of libraries preinstalled so you just start pecking out programs that you like. it runs with any gui on 2gb ram

>>844496

I know places that are running shit a hell of a lot older than XP...

>>836586

Because they have a 32 bit machine.

>>846404

Android Linux being modified from the mainline doesn't stop it from being Linux. People who call Linux an operating system and also a kernel program at the same time are making a mistake.

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>>834729

What carpentry can x86 do that x64 can't? Less heat? Cheap processing power?

Holy shit you fags are still posting in this thread? I've gone through like 4 distros by now.

>>834675

Do you know how many single CPUs are hosting dozens and dozens of linux installs in VMs and containers? That's practically all that AWS even is.

>>836586

Why not? 64-bit CPUs offer very little for most users.

>850974

How about being able to use more than two GB of RAM in a single process?

>>844555

Point proven. There is no advantage.

>>850979

What process are you doing in a laptop that requires more than 2GB RAM? Use the right tools for the right purpose. Laptops are for low powered portable computing. If you need high powered computing, don't do it on a laptop!

>>851870

>64-bit CPUs offer very little for most users.

>most users

Wasn't talking about myself.

>>851870

> Laptops are for low powered portable computing.

And of course they are not for gaming!!! Right?

>>834451 (OP)

>you can download download Windows 98 and software for it no problem even though it's been oficially "dead" for 12 years

>devs delete a Loonix distro's repo and as a result said distro is actually and effectively dead and unusable anymore

>""""free as in freedums""""

>>857972

"any colour's fine for as long as it is <xyz>" aka "you're free as in freedumbs to use our distro for as long as we are merciful enough on you to keep the repo online"

>>850039

x86 is lean and is true legacy of the 80386, the first actually good PC CPU, while x64 is generally associated with all-encompassing botnet, """modern""" bloat and unnecessary complexity.

>>846404

1. ext* is not a required feature of the kernel. It's entirely optional and can be disabled in the configuration just like any other filesystem.

2. Most if not all Android devices do use ext4. There are some exotic runaways that use f2fs for some partitions, but at least /system will probably be ext4.

>>846404

You don't really understand how the kernel works if you think there is such a thing as "the Linux filesystem". I'm comfortable saying that the most important area where Linux differs from the rest of the Unix family is that instead of "everything is a file" its more like "everything is a file-like object". All these file like objects need to be kept somewhere, and organized somehow right?

Do X60s not have x86-64 CPUs? I was really considering getting one but I might have to hold back if that's the case.

>>861194

ext4 is *THE* Linux filesystem.

I propose the term "memeware" to encompass all "meme software" dismissals, including "meme distro", "meme language", "meme software", etc.

>>857976

>x86 is lean

Oh boy if you only knew how wrong you are. Look up what a keyboard controller is and down the rabbit hole you go. Look up A20. Look up SMM. x86 is so full of layers and layers of legacy shit is isn't funny any more.

>>861205

The ones with core2duos support 64bit architectures.

>>850944

>being a horsefucker

http://archive.is/wYH7a

>>861235

How does x86-64 remedy this? By putting even more and more layers on top of it? How is that an improvement?

>>861955

It's hopeless goy, utterly utterly hopeless. Haven't you seen how, any time there is a discussion of security issues, somebody shows up to prove it's hopeless and that the 386 is just as bad as full CIA nigger ME backdoored recent machines?

Here on this board we've seen blackpill artists assert that system management mode is exactly the same as Intel's AMT/ME because they all have the word "management" in them. When you see a post like that it's just confirmation that the glowing niggers are in the thread and watching.

>>861955

Their new shit is even more complicated and badly designed. Didn't you hear about the Meltdown and Spectre bugs?

If you want an old chip, get an m68k or PowerPC. If you want a new chip and you're a poorfag, get an ARM Cortex-A7 on a board that that doesn't require non-free boot code. Some are listed here: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers

>>834451 (OP)

debian sid bro

theres a torrent out there. iirc some anons are trying to save old linuxes. idk if its in 4chan.org/t or our /t/.

goodluck

>>834451 (OP)

You knew this was coming. I stopped using Arch early 2017 and switched to Gentoo and GuixSD because of that blatant BS from Arch.

And besides, it turns out the memers were right; Gentoo is way more /comfy/

>>863573

>gentoo

>literally using a google OS

lol

>>863584

It's true that ChromiumOS is built using the Gentoo package manager, but it doesn't use the actually Portage tree and doesn't ship with any Gentoo utilities, either. ChromiumOS uses Upstart as its init.