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 No.830508>>830577 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So today we have graphics cards using GDDR5 RAM, which of course is based off DDR3 SDRAM. Would it be possible for someone to create a graphics card with user replacable RAM similar to replacing RAM on a laptop? Like an RX580 but instead of having two versions at 4GB and 8GB you could buy vRAM for it and have any RAM combination you want. What is preventing this from being a thing?

 No.830577>>833268

>>830508 (OP)

>What is preventing this from being a thing?

we don't have AGP's 6MB/s main memory bottleneck any more so there's no point


 No.830580>>830713

Graphics memory is a lot more timing-sensitive than main memory


 No.830586>>830895

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Absolutely, until the mid-90s nearly all GPUs had slots for upgradable memory. Just like how CPUs used to allow upgradable off-die L2/L3 cache.


 No.830616>>830626

The Vega graphic cards allows to use the computer's RAM in the case the 8GB are insufficient. That's not perfect, but it's a good idea if you have a lot.


 No.830626>>830633

>>830616

Literally the same case with Intel iGPUs and AMD APUs released for the past 5 years at least

Part of the reason integrated graphics are so shit is because generic SDRAM is slower for graphical workloads than GDDR memory


 No.830633>>830646

>>830626

Also, we're stuck using PCIe, which has to squeeze through the on-die RAM controllers in each CPU. We should just have one single bus (HyperTransport, RapidIO, Infiniband, etc.) used for everything (CPUs, RAM, storage, expansion cards, external I/O) with a unified fabric topology.


 No.830646>>830653

>>830633

That's what AMD is trying to do with HSA I think


 No.830653

>>830646

Yeah, it just pisses me off this didn't happen yonks ago. All of the buses I mentioned were ready back in the early 2000s (before inferior garbage like AGP 8X, PCI-X, PCIe, SATA, GBe, USB 2, etc., which you'll notice were mostly Intel's doing), and were already implemented in CPUs & mobos (particularly AMD's use of HyperTransport), so they could've just neatly phased it in as the replacement for legacy standards. SGI had even perfectly demonstrated exactly how such an architecture should be used, with NUMAflex on their awesome modular Origin/Onyx systems.


 No.830658>>830677

Replaceable memory only makes sense when manufacturing process of said memory has certain fault probability. Back in 90's and early 2000's memory was too expensive to produce, therefore they gave users an option to buy modules separately, today 8GiB of ram cost $20 for board manufacturer and is stable aff, be it graphics card or fagpple notebook, they solder it down and it works perfectly till next planned obsolescence model rotation.


 No.830677>>830713

>>830658

The difference between the 3GB & 6GB GTX 1060 is still about $50


 No.830713

>>830580

I think this anon is probably right, latency is yucky and user control harms latency.

>>830677

Extra dosh probably pays for VHDL monkeys, kernel contributors and Shareblue-tier "underdog" marketing on forums.


 No.830895>>831030

>>830586

The physical space wasted on those slots and trace routing for them could be used to add another 8GB nowadays. If you have to ask idiotic questions like the OP is doing you're not doing anything that needs that much anyway.


 No.831030>>831048

>>830895

>implying PCB footprint is a factor in the amount of VRAM on GPUs


 No.831048>>831064

>>831030

Only a few years ago one geforce card came out that tried to use the max allowed ATX card size (~1ft) and people found out the hard way their standard ATX cases actually weren't


 No.831064>>833195

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>>831048

With how heavy multi-slot coolers are on modern cards, I'm kind of amazed they don't include a bracket to use the front rail for stabilization anymore.

At least they aren't like some kekworthy cards I've owned, 2nd pic related.


 No.833170

bump


 No.833195

>>831064

Pfffffffffffft


 No.833268

>>830577

>AGP's 6MB/s

You're showing your age anon... or you're just completely retarded.

AGP 1.0 266MB/s

AGP 3.0 2133MB/s


 No.833276

There's no point to it.




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