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 No.811236[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Are the iproute tools worthy successors to ifconfig, et al?

 No.811248

Yeah, since like 20 years ago. Except for iproute2's bridge stuff which is garbage. You'll still need brctl if you do anything non-trivial.


 No.811269>>811315 >>811321

ip is a good replacement for ifconfig but the other 95% of what it does should be in other fucking binaries

ss is a piece of shit for requiring its retarded multiline tty-autodetecting -p output to be piped through cat to be made readable, and doing so fucks up the column alignment

tc is a fucking abomination.


 No.811315

>>811269

>95% of what it does

That's the way linux software has been going for awhile, now. All because Linus wanted a fucking monolithic Kernel. At the same time, minixcon was canceled due to a stark lack of participation.


 No.811321>>811520

>>811269

>but the other 95% of what it does should be in other fucking binaries

It wouldn't make sense since it's a thin wrapper around netlink messages that have a lot of crossover. And no one wants to deal with the extreme bloat of having an executable per message type.


 No.811520>>811524

>>811321

If only there were a way to call the same code via multiple names


 No.811524>>811665

>>811520

>If only there were a way to call the same code via multiple names

If you knew the issues involved you'd not be suggesting something as ridiculous as an executable per message type talking to a library.


 No.811665>>811682 >>811690

>>811524

busybox sure is ridiculous


 No.811682

>>811665

So ridiculous that everyone making Linux-based devices uses it, huh?


 No.811690>>811704

>>811665

bb is kind of a special case for embedded use, not something you'd follow on a "normal" system

And it doesn't even have all the POSIX functionality, much less the GNU extensions linuxbois seen to require.


 No.811704

>>811690

It's also nicer than klibc-based tools for in an initramfs. Mostly. The problem is GNU, busybox, and klibc can't get their shit together and decide what the goddamn arguments for 'mount' should look like so every one of them is wildly incompatible with the other. I eventually gave up and just went with klibc since it's the default.




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