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Seems to be a pretty solid release. But it looks like the OSX version is starting to suffer because of Apples hostility to open standards.
https://krita.org/en/item/krita-3-3-0/
▶ No.799288>>799381 >>799421
>Appimage
God these things are convenient.
▶ No.799289>>799290 >>799313 >>799563
>>799284 (OP)
>Krita
is it still slow as molasses to use? Paint Tool Sai has always been consistently a smoother experience to use.
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>>799289
As long as you have a GPU with decent OpenGL support, Krita should work fine. Doesn't give me any performance issues with Mesa at any rate.
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>>799290
On all of my computers Krita is noticeably slower than Sai. Especially when using the stabilizer.
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>>799292
Sai is pretty old at this point. So it's no wonder that it's more lightweight; it's not exactly getting many new features anymore either.
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>>799292
Not to mention the fact that you should never rely on Wine for tools like a digital art program, so if you're not in Windows-land, Sai isn't really an option.
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>>799284 (OP)
>a bunch of fixes and tweaks
it's nothing
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>>799299
Scroll down to the part about OSX. Shit has to be gimped (heh) because of Apple's stupid decisions. That's the interesting bit.
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>>799300
I mean, I guess the Krita project COULD divert some funds to support Metal.
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>>799311
Furfriend here. Take it to >>>/fur/
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>>799289
>>799284 (OP)
I've used krita 2.9 with a gt730 gpu, and an i5, 4 gig ram with integrated graphics laptop. All loonix machines. The speed is ok for me, will move to 3.0 plus soon. The problem when I used 2.9 wasn't the speed but the stability. It does occasionally crash. If 3.0 + is more stable, and the text tools are getting better then that's good news.
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>>799311
Will you accept LibreOffice lewds instead?
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>>799313
The text tool is getting rewritten. Til that's done, I've just been using the one in Inkscape.
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>>799317
Looks identical to Kiki and really reminiscent of the boy and girl KDE-tans. Tan strikes me as a one-trick pony, and I get the feeling that he's only attracting any attention because of free software-related autism and muh precious CC-BY-NC license, rather than any talent or skill. Dude got lightning to strike once with Kiki and now his work is cropping up everywhere like weeds. Also, I can't think of a single reason that LibreOffice needs a mascot when it's got no free competition, unlike Krita (GIMP) and KDE (literally every other DE and WM), it's not struggling for an identity or marketing.
▶ No.799329>>799333 >>799334 >>799339 >>799341
>>799326
The guy is actually pretty good, but his LibreOffice mascot seems too derivative and uninspired.
LibreOffice has a lot of competition in the form of MSOffice, OpenOffice, Google Drive and WPSOffice. Not to mention the 500 office clients in Android.
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>>799329
Beats the dozen or so generic hummingbirds and Owls that are also in the running. Though that one Beaver is also good.
▶ No.799334>>799336
>>799329
Personally, I like the design, but the question is how marketable it is. That's the whole point of a mascot, after all.
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>>799334
After all, the one thing that sells better than sex is cute.
▶ No.799337>>799343
> Dude got lightning to strike once with Kiki
Kiki wasn't his first success at making FOSS mascots though:
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>>799329
>OpenOffice
That's basically dead, isn't it?
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>>799317
It's a pretty shit mascot. Why would you design a character that you can't even make any sense of? It's way too cluttered and has too many ideas going on at once.
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>>799329
Poked around briefly in his deviantart page -- at least as far as I could without enabling javashit, because I'm lazy -- and all I found were anthropomorphic animals in the same vein as the work I'd already seen. The only thing that maybe is different is the mascot for Kate, but all I see as evidence of that is a thumbnail on the project's page, not a full image, so the jury's still out, but I'm still standing by what I said. He's good at what he does, but what he does is so narrow and same-y that I don't feel bad labeling the dude as a one trick pony until I see something proving otherwise.
Also, the free in "free competition" was there on purpose. It'd take Microsoft exploded violently for Libreoffice to have a chance at beating MS Office, OpenOffice hasn't been relevant since the original fork, Google Office serves Jewgle cocksuckers (and being online, serves a different niche, at least until the online LO project actually gets some traction), and WPS Office is proprietary. It's not like KDE, which competes with GNOME and XFCE and LXDE and the rest; or Kate, which competes with Gedit and vim and emacs; or Krita, which competes with the GIMP and some other small drawing utilities. Save for KDE, all of these projects are not only competing for brain space with the proprietary giants, but also with other (very prominent) free projects, whereas Libreoffice is the go-to free office software. A cute furfag mascot won't save you against twenty+ years of Microsoft cornering the market, but might get, say, someone using the GIMP to reconsider their choice of image editing software.
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>>799340
It's a paper-craft theme. Kinda makes sense for an office suite.
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>>799337
I didn't meant lightning striking in the sense that the mascot stuck, I mean lightning striking in the sense that it's popular. The KDE mascots have a bunch of "official" art but not a lot of fan works. By comparison, there's a ton of people drawing Kiki, probably because they know she exists because they've been exposed to Krita, and Krita is a thing on all of Windows, OSX and GNU/Linux, whereas KDE is limited to being relevant only on GNU/Linux and other free OSes.
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>>799317
>furfaggotry in my office suite software.
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>>799341
He has done humans in the past, but says he finds them less interesting to draw.
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>>799344
Exactly what other kind of mascot is there? You're either getting this, a hummingbird or a beaver eating a pencil.
▶ No.799351>>799362
>>799340
>It's way too cluttered and has too many ideas going on at once.
To be fair, you could say the same thing about Kiki.
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>>799351
Honestly, i think it's more or less the blocky artstyle that makes it look unapealing.
▶ No.799367>>799370 >>799411
>>799284 (OP)
my main problem was it never worked on any display resolutions I have. my current is 1360x768 and I have a 1280x720 laptop. all the menu popups and shit i couldn't click because the windows don't resize/provide scrollbars intelligently
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>>799367
>my main problem was it never worked on any display resolutions I have. my current is 1360x768 and I have a 1280x720 laptop. all the menu popups and shit i couldn't click because the windows don't resize/provide scrollbars intelligently
It seems ok at 1920x1080. At 768 and 720 it gets wonky. I have not tried this latest version but yeah, it really seems to require 1080p for it not to get fucky.
▶ No.799381>>799410
>>799288
literally no one on /tech/ gushes over shit like this
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>>799381
You mean Kiki or Appimages? Every fucking time there's a Krita thread there are at least half a dozen anons asking for lewds (and the ones who bitch are the ones who REALLY want to fuck her).
As for AppImages, these things are life-savers for people who like to stick to LTS distros. I can't imagine what it would be like to have to be stuck with the ancient version of Krita from the repo anymore. Sure, you can sperg our about 'muh Unix way', but you cannot deny the convenience.
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>>799367
Now might be the time to invest in a 1080p monitor. They're pretty affordable these days.
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>>799312
He won't find any there.
▶ No.799421>>799422 >>799423
>>799288
They're shit, but they're good for cases like th is where you want to install something dependent upon an entire desktop without making a huge mess.
▶ No.799422
>>799421
I mean, Flatpak is better for distribution, but AppImage will always be more convenient for testing out alpha and beta software.
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>>799421
More recent versions of Krita aren't nearly as bad when it comes to deps.
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>>799424
Comparing Inkscape to Krita is like comparing Krita to Gimp. Totally different use case.
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>>799411
don't feel like it. the one i have works great i love it. till i get a new one i have to use Green Is My Pepper which works on all resolutions
▶ No.799463>>799473
>>799437
Have you tried MyPaint?
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>>799341
> Krita, which competes with the GIMP
Krita is a digital painting program and the GIMP is an image Manipulator. There is some overlap, but they don't directly compete.
Technically, MyPaint competes more directly with Krita than the GIMP.
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>>799317
Apparently, this is the chibi version.
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>>799466
Where does fiji/imagej fall in all of this? And don't say in the street or in the loop.
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>>799284 (OP)
Using it with a ThinkPad/Wacom tablet running Parabola GNU/Linux-libre. Fucking brilliant!
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>>799463
>MyPaint
no I haven't. most of the graphical stuff I have to do I use inkscape for. which isn't ideal either. hopefully a good vector art program comes along on Linux soon
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>>799473
You mean GNU/Linux.
Linux is a kernel, which is a component of an operating system. A kernel is not an operating system in and of itself.
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>>799474
what are you retarded or something? operating systems running on the linux kernel are generally referred to as 'linux' for short.
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>>799477
>linux kernel
Now you're just being redunant.
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>>799481
I'd just like to interject for a moment
What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>799484
>google 'linux kernel'
>cover pic for wikipedia article is linux penguin with a retarded grin
alright guys whos behind this epic prank
▶ No.799521>>799558 >>799560
>>799317
Too blocky and "edgy" for me and I don't like the half-eye-always-closed style.
>by tyson tan
>the same faggot who made krita
Interesting. Has he ever drawn any lewds? Would he do commissions?
▶ No.799558>>799944
>>799521
>has he ever drawn lewds
Simi-lewd is where he's comfortable at the moment.
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>>799521
It's supposed to look like paper-craft. Kinda makes sense for an office suite.
▶ No.799563
>>799289
I use Krita 3.1.4 on my ThinkPad T420 and I have no issues working on such canvases as 4096 × 4096. Try disabling "Instant Preview Mode" (Shift + L).
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>>799410
>Every fucking time there's a Krita thread there are at least half a dozen anons asking for lewds
Me. Whenever I see Kiki I smile and go daaaaaaw how cute.
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>>799775
>Whenever I see Kiki I smile and go daaaaaaw how cute
Are you sure that's all?
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>>799818
Maybe I imagine her wearing slightly less clothing
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>>799470
Are the wacom tablets good? Should I get one if I want to start?
▶ No.799885>>801045
Different anon but I use them with Krita on Lunix.
>>799876
>Are the wacom tablets good?
They're good. There are clones that have similar or even better build quality, the problem is the driver support can be spotty with some of the clones depending on the software and OS.
>Should I get one if I want to start?
Get the medium sized one if you can, no need to spring for a cintiq or a pro grade model lines right off the bat. The medium sized tablet can serve a beginner up to advanced tbh.
You can get a cheaper monoprice clone tablet, but wacom is almost a guarantee to be a plug and play work out of the box. Whether that is worth paying the extra coin that's up to you.
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>>799876
Most of the people start either Bamboo (some model similar to CTH-470K) or with one of the small Intus models like CTH-490AK. I'd recommend the first one.
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>>800020
Personally I use one of the more recent Inutos models. Shame out of all the desktops, Gnome Shell has the best support for drawing tablets.
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>>799818
We need to meme this rivalry into reality.
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>>799944
So are you into traps or furshit?
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>>799341
>Poked around briefly in his deviantart page -- at least as far as I could without enabling javashit, because I'm lazy -- and all I found were anthropomorphic animals in the same vein as the work I'd already seen.
Well, that's his art style. He can do other stuff, though, as evidenced by his 3 or 4 works with other artstyle.
>Also, the free in "free competition" was there on purpose. It'd take Microsoft... Tl;dr.
Like it or not, LobreOffice competes against Microsoft Office. One of their goals is to get companies and governments to migrate from MSO to LO.
Is it an impossible task? Maybe. But it's not about how 'easy' the task is (otherwise they wouldn't have started the project in the first place), it's about doing it. The hard work and a polished free as in freedom product.
▶ No.800097>>800112 >>800115 >>800134
>>799775
But she's super cute! I don't understand all these folks wanting lewds of such a cute and pure squirrel.
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>>800097
To be fair, Tyson is drawing her sexier these days.
▶ No.800115
>>800097
There's just something about cute and lewd. It's a potent mix.
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>>800097
Degenerates want everything to be sexualized, be they faggots or furries.
>>799317
Now that's some "edgy" stuff right there. I'm really not a fan of the one eye closed, it looks like she's chronically smug. To be honest, I don't even know if having a mascot for an office suite is a good idea; a drawing application is something creative, so a playful mascot fits, but an office suite is something rigid and serious.
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>>800134
>Degenerates want everything to be sexualized, be they faggots or furries.
Maybe, but as an author you should always use this for marketing.
▶ No.800322>>800428
>>800134
>office suite is something rigid and serious
The point of a mascot is getting people's attention. Having some boring hummingbird or owl doesn't really achieve that.
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>>800322
There's no mascot in ms office, yet it is still popular. Having childish like mascot is useless in office work software. It could bring up a false impression that it was designed for man children nerds and such.
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>>800428
>comparing enterprise programs bought en mass solely because they're an 'industry standard' to creative ones
You're one dumb nigger.
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>>800470
>comparing enterprise programs bought en mass solely because they're an 'industry standard' to creative ones
Except he wasn't, you low functioning autist. >>800428 was comparing MS office to Libre Office, not MS Office vs Krita.
>Having childish like mascot is useless in office work software.
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>>800487
Pull the stick out of your ass, anon. Having a cute mascot never hurts. Just look at Nipland.
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>>800428
MS Office is popular today for historical reasons. I seriously doubt having a Kiki-like mascot would change it's popularity one way or the other at this point.
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>>800552
>Pull the stick out of your ass, anon. Having a cute mascot never hurts. Just look at Nipland.
You really do have the reading comprehension of a nigger don't you. >>800487
was talking and quoting the part about MS office and Libre office comparison.
This nignog >>800470 somehow thought >>800428 was comparing an office program to a digital painting program. When it wasn't.
Then you came along and somehow out-retard that nigger with "durrrrr having a cute mascot never hurt heerrpppp". Stick to your Fagioli containment threads you latent abortion.
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>>800428
>There's no mascot in ms office
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>>800610
>>800637
>paper clip was a jew
it all makes sense now
▶ No.800754>>800769
>>800577
But anon, it really never does hurt to have a cute mascot. It's science.
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>>800754
Pumpkin, no mascot can match your cuteness. Don't let anyone tell you differently.
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>>800577
MS might not have a mascot for office, but their OS and browser do. You really have to stop equating 'professional' with 'boring'.
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>>800799
This >>800487 is my post, quoting >>800428, which isn't mine. The part that you seem to be focused on for some bizarre reason and now blathering about
>but their OS and browser do
as if you are some Newtonian scientist who just discovered the moe law of gravity because you post a pic of the Yuu&Ai twins and the browser slut instead of Nanami or even Claudia, you disgusting no taste having weeaboo wannabe. I thought furfaggotry is the lowest, but good job on proving that wrong.
>You really have to stop equating 'professional' with 'boring'.
And you really need to stop opening your yap like a nigger who is functionally illiterate. Do you know why
>comparing enterprise programs bought en mass solely because they're an 'industry standard' to creative ones
is a stupid misinterpretation by a nigger in this thread. Yet you still continue to somehow read pointing out that mistake as
>lel why u so against cute mascot tho lolololol they have mascot for os and browser you should stop doing what my headcanon says you are doing
Do you even use Krita, or are you just here to dazzle people with how cute your prom dress is.
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>>800802
Libbie is currently way ahead in the votes. Thought you'd like to know that.
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>>800802
Alright enough of your autism. Try to keep the topic on Krita. LO and any potential mascots can have their own thread.
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>>800802
>>800577
>>800487
>getting this upset
>thinking mascots have anything to do with marketshare
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>>800808
>Multiple mascot threads
I guess it's better than the fagioli cancer that keeps getting posted.
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>>800836
I don't even think the anon is really upset so much as they're trying too hard to fit in.
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>>800876
I take it back, this anon is just a faggot.
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>>800876
Two out of five, nignog.
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>>800929
>out of five
>>800876 lists 4
Wew.
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>>800939
You counted yourself again in the post moron.
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>>800940
You can do whatever counting method that helps you sleep at night, you cutie patootie. You're #1 in the cute poll and that's all that matters.
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>>800943
I'm just going to stop replying to you and bury your comments in Kiki posts.
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>>799317
Pretty cool and goes well with the welcome screen of LO, but it's a bit too Kiki-like.
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>>799885
Checked out my local Best Buy (yeah yeah, I know) and the only ones they had were some INTUOS tabs and large wacom ones. Like only 4 to pick from.
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>Krita thread
>75% of the thread is furfaggotry
>/fur/ krita thread
This thread is getting gassed.
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>>801049
Just embrace Kiki and her cute fluffy body, anon.
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>>801045
>Checked out my local Best Buy (yeah yeah, I know) and the only ones they had were some INTUOS tabs and large wacom ones. Like only 4 to pick from.
Wacom changed the naming scheme some years back, into something needlessly confusing. It used to be:
>Intuos is the pro line (the largest model is only available on the intuos line, but the medium size usually is the sweetspot from beginners to pros)
>Bamboo is the beginner to intermediate to advanced, (size is small to medium)
If you go further back there was other name lines but it's usually consistent that Intuos was their pro line name. That's changed to:
>Intuos Pro is the pro line
>Intuos (without the pro) is the sometimes beginner or intermediate line
>Bamboo is shifted around to be their touch only pad, or special pens, or sometimes tablets the way the previous bamboo line was because WE'RE WACOM FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY
Just look for either Intuos (without the Pro designation) medium sized, or Bamboo medium size. Sometimes they will have the added Pen & Touch designation, it doesn't matter as long as the size is medium and the price is somewhere between 170-200$ depending on where you are.
Example
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-digital-graphics-drawing-painting/dp/B010LHRVOY/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The important specs:
Item Dimensions L x W x H 10.75 x 0.25 x 8.5 inches
Unless you absolutely need the wireless version, just go with wired and save some money.
Alternative nibs material if you run out of the official wacom pen nibs and holds up equal or better to the official nibs at a cheaper price. Lawn trimmer line, check the diameter for your specific model. I bought a .065" ROUND trimmer line that works perfectly as a pen nib for a Bamboo Small tablet. Thanks to /loomis/ for the tablet tricks and hints. Pic related.
https://8ch.net/loomis/res/565.html
TL;DR
The tablet's Active Area size is more important than very high level of pressure sensitivity, 512 to 1024 is honestly good enough even for a lot of pros.
If you are on loonix, it's usually safer bet in terms of plug and play to get the wacom but it's more expensive.
If you are on wangblows, you might be able to work with cheaper alternate brands like HUION or Monoprice.
Another option is used wacoms if you are on a very tight budget.
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>>801054
Trisquel GNU/Linux user, and will check out best buy in the morning. I think one of the models was $69.99 and the large wacom tablets were $350. Thanks a bunch!
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>>801003
Tyson Tan has a rather distinct style. Quite a bit like his predecessor Gashi-Gashi. So to some extent, all his stuff looks similar.
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>>801063
Not him, but I like Tysons art. It's pretty, detailed and very cute.
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>>801056
You're welcome and good luck dude.
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