/tech/ - Technology★

>>781913 (OP)

if you want a slightly more normie friendly domain than finalsolutions, i have the perfect domain.

i ran ghettohost.net for a few years but i'd rather spend my time finding clients and marketing and doing customer support than actually operating servers, i loved nerd shit when i was 14-20, now i mostly like to practice welding and wrenching.

ghettohost.net and gangsta.host

the idea is to sell people absolute shit tier shit on ghettohost for shit tier prices and next to zero customer support other than some knowledgebases and tutorials, datapimp style. and if you don't remember datapimp, you're too young. ghettohost is a brand held together with baling wire and malt liquor.

gangsta.host just doesn't give a fuck, it hosts whatever. for a price.

>>781917

I'll probably open up a dual-front with a "Made in America Hosting" or something for normie dollars. Your pitch is really solid though, I laughed.

My idea for the name was playing off how there's all these dickheads in the IT world calling their shit solutions. Oh we don't sell products, we don't offer services, we do SOLUTIONS. fucking fairies.

"Many companies promise solutions, but only one offers FINAL Solutions."

>>781920

the America Made hosting is a good branding strategy.

i'm not trying to remora onto you, i'm just looking at what i've got going on and accepting that i'd rather spend my time doing things other than the nitty gritty technical work.

FINAL solutions is going to go viral pretty hard, you'd have to be a fearless motherfucker-

>(yes that josh)

i just now saw that. yes, you can get away with this. i'm going to email you some stuff now related to your territories on the internet.

>I'm starting up my own VPS company in the US

No sane person would use your service and expect security or privacy. Considering you can be gag ordered, and if you refuse (((suicided))). Make it anywhere else besides north america and the EU.

Go back to your botnet already faggot.

>>781929

>suicided

oh gosh if only i were so lucky

If things go tits up i'll put in my visa to Seychelles but until I am muzzled by my own nation I will not give up on it.

>Josh is back

How did you escape the pig pit?

come back to #nextchan irc cabal

we miss you

>>781913 (OP)

SSN is legal under first amendment.

>>781947

I was looking for evidence to disprove you but it appears you're right. Most interestingly:

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/07/fourth-circuit-decides-first-amendment-trumps-social-security-number-privacy/

I don't really care what's being hosted, so in a practical sense if there were SSNs being hosted it would not be my concern until I got a court order about it. If no court order ever came, I would keep my nose out of it.

>>781949

Why though? There are already hosters that respect your privacy, run a commercial reverse proxy service instead, then you can act like CloudFlare about everything, you can even let CP sites stay on it (you're just a service provider who can't be forced to censor etc)

>>781954

None in America. I'll consider auxillary services feature very soon after I get set up. It would be great to run a Cloudflare-esque service but I need to focus on hosting atm because it's what I personally need.

>>781913 (OP)

>using Cloudflare

>hosting anything in the (((US)))

Get your shit together and go full Vincent Canfield mode.

>>781959

But if you have a cloudflare-esque service you can have the actual host anywhere, you can even use a .onion.

OVH, Hetzner, Leaseweb are bulletproof enough if they're behind reverse proxy.

>>781963

It would be easy to flee the country and set up some shitshop VPS service in Viet Nam with a large latency to the US, but like I said, I would very much prefer to have my country.

>>781964

Cloudflare forwards complaints to hosts, announces your host to the reporter, and no longer tells the client about every report received. It used to until a few months ago. I believe this is particularly because of my site and a massive number of high profile complainees who've abused Cloudflare CSRs over it.

https://kiwifarms.net/forums/take-that-off-the-god-damn-internet.66/

I could host anywhere, yes, but not efficiently. I couldn't use Cockbox because the connection speed was just abysmal. You're talking 8+ seconds per page. I don't know what the issue was but I had similar lack of success with other VPS providers in Europe. Page loads instantly when directly connected, about half a second with US proxy, and then 2+ seconds with EU proxy.

And I just don't feel like I should have to do this. This is my fucking country and I have the goddamn right to call a bunch of trannies gross weirdos with a fetish. I shouldn't have to operate like a fucking child pornographer to do so.

I'll make my own company, use good hardware, be open with clients and if the feds take issue with it and tell me to close shop or take my shit THEN I'll leave, and I'll spend the rest of my life making sure tech companies invest in countries that aren't run by a bunch of mentally handicapped authoritarians who arbitrarily protect crossdressing mentally ill people from mean words.

>>781966

You'll fail anyway. Like with >NEVER

>>781966

Run a company that works like cloudflare but end-to-end SSL and doesn't take down sites ever, just forwards the complaints to them and makes it "their responsibility" to contact the host. Rent a dedicated server in Sweden, service providers there are literally never responsible unless they "tamper" with the servers. We already have a VPN provider like that where you get a static IP and can forward whatever ports you want, they don't log you or anything so it's like hosting at home but abuse complaints go in the trash.

https://lagen.nu/2002:562

Law (2002:562) on electronic commerce and other the information society's [sic] services

[...]

Definitions

2 § In the law is meant by

the services of the information society: services which are usually performed against a fee and provided over a distance, electronically and on the individual request of a service receiver,

service provider: legal or physical person which provides any of the services of the information society

[irrelevant marketing and contract related stuff omitted]

Freedom of responsibility for service providers in certain cases

16 § A service provider that transfers information which has been given by a service receiver in a communication network, or who provides access to such a network, shall not due to the information's content be compelled to replace damages or pay sanction fees, under the condition that the provider doesn't

1. initiate the transfer,

2. choose the receiver of the information, or

3. choose or change the information

The transfer and making available according to the first paragraph also regards such automatic, intermediate and temporary storage of information which only happens to provide the transfer, unter the condition that the information is not stored longer than what can reasonably be required for the transfer.

TN: This is about reverse proxies/ISPs who only transmit data from point A to point B. They are not responsible whatsoever for the content as long as someone else requested it. They have no responsibility to censor the content, the police provides an optional CP DNS blacklist for ISPs but that's it, TPB isn't blocked here

17 § A service provider that transfers information which has been given by a service receiver in a communication network shall, for such automatic, intermediate and temporary storage which occurs only to effectivize further transmission to other service receivers, not due to the information's content be compelled to replace damages or pay sanction fees, under the condition that the provider doesn't

17 § En tjänsteleverantör som överför information som har lämnats av en tjänstemottagare i ett kommunikationsnät skall, för sådan automatisk, mellanliggande och tillfällig lagring som sker endast för att effektivisera vidare överföring till andra tjänstemottagare, inte på grund av innehållet i informationen vara skyldig att ersätta skada eller betala sanktionsavgift, under förutsättning att leverantören

1. doesn't change the information

2. fullfills applicable conditions for access to the information

3. follows the within the sector commonly accepted rules for updating of the information

4. does not intervene in such within the sector commonly accepted technology which is used to receive information regarding the usage of the information, and

5. without duration prohibits further spread of the information, as soon as it comes to the provider's attention that the information which has originally been transmitted has been removed or made unavailable, or if a court or a [governmental] agency has decided that such is to occur.

TN: This is about cache used to speed up loading of pages but isn't essential. Cloudflare's "Always Online" would not be legal if it's used for illegal content. A court order can compel them to remove it from the cache but not to censor it if they're only proxying. Note that (5) only applies to cache, reverse proxying child porn is 100% legal even if you're completely aware of it. You're treated the same way as an ISP, you can even act as a VPN service with the option of blocking certain IPs on request and not as a regular reverse proxy

[irrelevant section about cloud storage omitted]

19 § A service provider that transmits or stores information for another [party] may be charged with responsibility for crime which regards the information's content only if the crime has been commited with intent.

>>782030

>Run a company that works like cloudflare but end-to-end SSL and doesn't take down sites ever, just forwards the complaints to them and makes it "their responsibility" to contact the host. Rent a dedicated server in Sweden, service providers there are literally never responsible unless they "tamper" with the servers. We already have a VPN provider like that where you get a static IP and can forward whatever ports you want, they don't log you or anything so it's like hosting at home but abuse complaints go in the trash.

Any idea how a Cloudflare clone could make money?

>>782050

People pay money for it?

>>782055

You think they would just for the privilege of forwarding complaints and not caring? How much do you think?

>>782056

People pay for DDoS protection services, this is just another DDoS protection service. But yes, if nothing else you could earn huge sums of money from criminals.

>>782056

People would pay for edge-proxies, DDOS protection, IP anonymization, and not having a MitM.

It (should) be less expensive than someone rolling these kinds of servers themselves, since economies of scale, etc and botnets are also limited in their capacity.

>>782059

>>782084

If it's not content at all I would be even less concerned with what it is being used for and would be fine taking Bitcoin. Cloudflare doesn't take BTC but it also doesn't ask for government id.

Interesting discussion.

>in the US

stopped reading right there; proceed directly to pig pen

>>782097

>stopped reading right there

>reference last sentence

stopped reading right there

also

>giving up on your country

>being this much of a cuck

lol

>>782098

>US

>my country

LMAO burgerlards and their projections

>>782099

>not understanding what a writer's first person perspective is

>being this autistic

>josh starts a hosting company

>takes a bunch of preorders

>fills half a rack up with old dells and starts installing ubuntu on them

>gets triggered by some shitpost on twitter and decides he's suddenly bored with the project

>leaves and pockets the money

every time

>>782169

Optimistic. I've got to run the Kiwi Farms on this shit too so I can't shut it down.

>Final solutions

Maybe if you dulled that edge for just a little wile you might find a colo company willing to work with you.

I would come up with a normie friendly name for the overall project.

>>782299

I'm not having any trouble finding colo but I'll keep it in mind.

>>781913 (OP)

Fuck off, Josh. Get fucked by a pig.

>>782331

based josh did nothing wrong

>>782333

>gets shitcanned by /tech/

>come crawling back when he's 7k in debt

wow josh.

>that josh

6 gorrilion died for that imageboard software and most of all stannis.

>couldn't fix a slow server

>will defend high risk websites from organized attacks

You're the best LARPer, PHP Pro.

>>781913 (OP)

Your life is a mess and you're thousands of dollars in debt. Your solution is to begin a project that will cost money to start and puts you at even larger risk once it's launched and you have customers.

Have you considered getting a part-time job, Josh?

sounds like your final soultion would be to suicide lol

>>782030

I don't think the cloudflare model really works with end-to-end SSL. We're basically where we have to chose between having some third party MITM communications or be driven off the internet.

what's the obsession you and Ron have with cloudflare?

dailystormer didn't get rekt by the host it got rekt by the dns provider.

provide your own dns service

There are already a lot of 'semi-bulletproof' hosts out there.

>>782445

They still own the domain, it will be in limbo for 60 days because of ICAAN rules, the .com will be back in 2 months if they use an actually good DNS host.

>>781913 (OP)

>Lolicon / bestiality is permissible where I reside, where the servers will be hosted, and where the LLC is incorporated.

What about neko shota?

>>782490

Its funny because kiwifarms (rightfully) laughs at dogfuckers, but now I gotta ask: How the hell do we know that he wont sell our information? He's untrustworthy as hell and when he was a global for all of ten seconds on 8chan he used to look up peoples IPs and compare them to the farms to see who was talking shit about him

>>782530

Believing bullshit espoused by /cow/ doesn't make it the truth. Joshy was let go as a global because he shit on Swami.

Which is ironic because Hotdud removed /fem/ from the board list months after that because spergs were shitting their pants.

>>782578

Nah, he used to brag about looking up peoples IPs in kiwis chat, now didn't you, Josh?

>>781913 (OP)

lol 64-bit key fingerprint

>>781954

cuckflare gives out your information in a heartbeat to something as small as a DMCA claim

>>782445

That's not true. Cloudflare shitcanned them at the same time GoDaddy did.

>>782530

>but now I gotta ask: How the hell do we know that he wont sell our information?

It's called a contract. If you're signing contracts with VPS providers who do not promise to safeguard your information as is reasonable, you're an idiot.

>>782602

Not your info, it goes to your host.

>>782603

I really doubt that Josh will value mine or anyone else's privacy.

>>782618

Then why bother talking to me?

>>782620

Pig farms

>>782603

>Not your info, it goes to your host.

this is exactly what I meant. 99% of the charlatans hosting warez who use cuckflare are depending on it to hide their real host, but they really don't.

>>782629

No. I've made threads about this to the CF board. They don't even forward them to you anymore.

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/on-cloudflares-decision-to-not-forward-abuse-reports/3567

>>782620

Would you host a site dedicated to making fun of you, and also promise not to spy on or sell out their information?

>>781913 (OP)

>High-Risk US Hosting

Yeah... for the fools who use it.

>>781929

and what's wrong with EU?

>>782635

I don't care what you do and I don't want to know anything about you. Just please do not host child pornography.

>>782654

How do you plan to process payments? How do you plan to get payments without getting info on the buyer?

based thread is based

>>782664

It depends on how 'problematic' payment processors become. I am getting in touch with high-risk checkout systems but even if bitcoin processors like BitPay refuse us there is literally nothing stopping me from handling that stuff manually. It'd be slower and a bit of a PITA, but should push come to shove it is definitely possible to make your own Bitpay style system with minimal problems.

Offshore payment processors excise but the IRS likes to bully them. I keep my eyes open for development. Right now, there is a Chinese banking giant called Ant Financial, and boy oh boy am I ready for a "who gives a shit" Chinaman to fondle my wallet.

>>782630

What are we talking about? I'm just saying that cuckflare will hand out your IP address for mere petty Intellectual Property claims:

https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-reveals-pirate-site-locations-in-an-instant-150629/

Not to mention it's easy to get the IP address other ways for most of their clients anyway.

>>782671

>excise

exist*

>>782672

That I've not heard. Cloudflare is definitely on its way out.

>>782578

Hi Josh, how's your mother doing?

>>782687

>2017

>Hi Josh!

jesus christ

>>782687

Better off without him, I would imagine.

>tfw anonymous hosting already exists, making this whole endeavor futile

>>782694

You're either talking about non-American companies or Tor.

>>782697

Correct. Because there's no reason to use US hosting over non-American.

>>782698

There should be. If the US continues down this path, it will collapse. Our IT cannot be this cucked forever.

>>782689

Josh, your most recent actions on the farms are the saltiest I have ever seen you.

Keep it up man, you're funny liek this

>>782689

Josh, your most recent actions on the farms are the saltiest I have ever seen you.

Keep it up man, you're funny like this>>782689

>>782700

fucking lol

Websites enforce or change their terms of use--which they're allowed to do, btw--and you think the US will collapse.

Holy shit, dude. Are you even for real?

Is there anything wrong with AMD for servers?

>>782764

While stormfront going down rings alarm bells for orwellians, its also fucking stormfront. It means nothing for Joe NOrmal who spends his day posting memage on facebook

>>782770

It just means they have to find a different host.

That's all there is to it.

Stormer has tried, what five or six hosts? Out of how fucking many that exist?

>>782717

Josh, your most recent actions on the farms are the saltiest I have ever seen you.

Keep it up man, you're funny like this>>782689

>>782772

You'd be surprised how fast they drop when you've got people chomping at the bit. Kiwi Farms has gone through over 30 in the last 2 years.

>>782716

>>782717

>>782774

>PLEASE NOTICE ME SEMPAI I AM TROLLING YOU

>>782776

I'm making fun of the blatant phonefagget obviously

>>782776

its working

Yeah, I guess Western Civilization will completely collapse without retarded bigots. lol

>>782782

yea, countries prosper all the time with added censorship

>>782783

its working

>>782775

Maybe if Kiwi Farms didn't go out of its way to directly provoke specific people they wouldn't have pissed off people with the free time needed to bitch them off the servers?

>>782784

They aren't being censored, dipshit. They're free to go to other hosts. Wake me up when someone Seal Team 6s Daily Stormer and then we can talk about censorship, yeah?

>>782786

someone once highlighted one of the big problems that makes hosts go hrgghh

when someone drops dox, they often do so with a snide comment of "call up his dad and call him a faggot lol"

sure, people in the know are well aware that this is a joke and barely anyone actually does it, but the hosts sure as hell dont and neither do the people getting dox'd

>>782787

>They're not being censored

>They're just being forced off for speaking

But they're important because they make faggots really upset when people talk about them. Faggots that contribute nothing to society but rage shit posting when their views are challenged on mediocre levels.

>>782789

>They're just being forced off for speaking

They are being forced off a host, of which there are many, and a host is under no obligation to give anyone who asks a platform. They're free to find another host that wants to give them a platform.

This is no more censorship then when Milo's book deal was cancelled.

>>782786

Would you say the same to ED? Or 8chan?

The only difference between 8chan's /cow/ and KF is that, besides KF being generally better in every way, is that 8chan is owned by a guy with a lot of money and his own computers.

>>782793

Correct me if I'm wrong, but both ED and 8chan are hosted outside of the US, right?

>>782792

I love how this classic Internet-argument hop-scotches between "it's not censorship" to "they're free to censor on their platform". It's like checkers with a retard.

>>782793

>besides KF being generally better in every way,

Hi josh

> is that 8chan is owned by a guy with a lot of money and his own computers.

Still salty about this? Man. Let it go, Moons.

>>782795

Please explain to me how this has stopped Daily Stormer from speaking, then. What entity has effectively ended them?

Have none of you ever read a hosts ToS? Because you're all acting like this is somehow a new tyranny that's never existed on the internet before.

>>781913 (OP)

Just get a real job instead

>>782797

>Have none of you ever read a hosts ToS?

Josh hasn't.

>>782800

This has been suggested many times.

>>781913 (OP)

Kill

You

Are

Self

>>782793

In fact, when 8chan was young, it went through these same growing pains. Fredrick was removed from many hosts over SJW complaints from the LW?s and he was to a point where he was about to give up. It was especially stressful for him because he can't precisely get up and start assembling his own servers or take a flight any time he wants.

>>782794

Both are in the US but ED does some tricky dicky stuff. 8chan just has Jim's IT guy bin the non-valid complaints.

>>782796

zzz read above

>>782800

Owning a bidness is a real job ;)

>>782801

I have literally never hosted the KF on a site that didn't allow pornography or hatespeech.

>>782806

>ED does some tricky dicky stuff

Also, ED's complaint volume is much smaller than ours. Trust me, I compare dicks with those guys all the time and mine is massive.

>>782806

>Owning a bidness is a real job ;)

Yet you're 7k in the hole and want to add onto that.

You're asking for user donations so you don't have to go outside.

>>782806

Not wanting to do business with a client =/= censorship.

>>782806

what host do you currently use? what tricky stuff does ED do?

>>782809

>You're asking for user donations so you don't have to go outside.

i'm going to be 100% real for a second.. if there was a legitimate way to hire Josh and his herd of madmen to take people i hate down, i would put all of my money into it. he could use that money to go outside, or not go outside, or spend it on thai prostitutes. i literally would not give a fuck even if it were split in half and thrown across the Potomac river

>>782808

>Trust me

lol that ship sailed with next, m8

>>782809

It's debt that I can pay off instantly because of my savings. I'd just prefer not to touch that savings.

If things go tits up I can pay it off and vanish. I choose not to because I enjoy extremely challenging work.

I've explained this elsewhere but I get death threats fucking constantly. Most states let you change your name with a sealed record if you have a fear of bodily harm. It only costs like $100 to do so.

It would be very, very easy for me to walk away, I've thought about it. I just don't want to.

I've also mentioned elsewhere that I don't particularly enjoy the "free speech" argument, because yes, you can simply counter by saying 'hosting a website making fun of retards on the Internet isn't particularly what the founding fathers had in mind with the first amendment', and I'm almost inclined to agree. What bothers me is that, while it is perhaps mean spirited, it's not illegal. I make sure of that. I have people legally evaluate the content of the site to make sure I stay in the green and that what we host is protected by the Safe Harbor clause of the CDA.

No VPS should make content decisions, but they all do. That's what I want to change. If there is a problem, illegal content, we have avenues for dealing with that already and I will work with the law insomuch as I am required. I will do nothing else and I have no reputation to stake for it.

Should the T1 networks drop my company, I will give up and I will leave the country. There's just no way I can peer a T1, no matter how much I'd want to.

>>782812

We do the same thing. I just burn through hosts faster.

>>782817

>I've also mentioned elsewhere that I don't particularly enjoy the "free speech" argument

yet you use it constantly lol

>>782816

is that the ship where jim blew $12k in user contributions because he doesn't know how the agpl or free software works. you realize that you're trusting some retarded baby boomer who avoids open source/free software because his filipino outsourcing firm fucked up and stored credit card numbers/information unencrypted, right?

the owner of this site is a retard that thinks proprietary software makes something secure, despite the fact that his company used proprietary credit card processing software and still fucked up.

>>782595

where's the proof?

>>782687

nice meme, but try again.

>>782818

Where did I use it in this thread? On my form?

I use "high-risk", not "free speech". You're putting words in my mouth.

>>782822

You've never used free speech in the past to describe what you're doing? Not once?

Question: if you aren't planning on dipping into your savings to pay off your current debt, how do you plan on running the site, this VPS project, and covering your actual living expenses without adding to the debt? How are you going to make a profit? Like, what do you plan to charge for the VPS and how many sign-ups would you need to turn a profit and start climbing out?

>>782836

Certainly I have, I just don't like doing it, especially not anymore. If not because I don't think the KF is the most righteous task ever undertaken by a human being, then because stupid shit like gab.ai and faux-1A companies pop up all the time waving around freeze peach like a fucking marketing gimmick. It's to the point where it's utterly meaningless. It's eye rolling. By nature, everyone and their dog is pro-freeze peach until there's heat and shit starts to thaw. People are pro-freeze peach until they have to inconvenience themselves to defend it.

Like I said, high-risk.

>>782820

>Still complaining about Jim

Let it go, Josh.

>>782840

That post isn't even reddit spaced, man. Get your "Hi Josh!" game on or don't even try.

>>782842

Like I know you're still salty about being fucked over by Jim but you really gotta let it go

>>782844

yeah you don't get to bring that up, out of context, without being told what a moron you are. don't complain.

>>782840

lmao

>>782844

>Implying Jim even runs RQI anymore.

Pretty sure Ron had some very nice bacon recently.

>>782845

Most of us know the full story and how your ineptitude coupled alongside your unpleasantness got your ass kicked from working on I-Next. I know you deluded yourself to think that Jim was conspiring against you the whole time but as hotwheels pointed out in his postmortem stream you have a tendency to antagonize people over small slights.

>>782848

You're fucking embarrassing yourself dude. Do I need to tripcode to make this easier for you?

>>782849

oh yeah, tell us mister moon how the evil jim was stealing your worthless code or whatever.

>>782848

the full story is that there was one guy working on a project, not enough time, and when the clock ran out tensions ran high and dud decided to damage control when Josh insulted his favorite Filipino functional programming master.

not even getting into the fact that dud's captcha was dogshit that did pixel manipulation in the PHP interpreter. sure, maybe it shouldn't have been tied directly into page rendering and instead been behind validation with an HTTP POST or AJAX api calls, whichever one is available, but it doesn't change the fact that dud's captcha.

it also doesn't change the fact that jim was a cocksucker who yelled at the dud and intimidated both of them because they wouldn't play ball, not understanding that he didn't own a single solitary thing in the whole affair, and didn't want any of his prestigious filipino outsourcing team contributing to an AGPL project.

I could go on but I'm just going to call you a moron. take it back to whatever shithole board you came from, you're not going to change the facts on /tech/. most here are autistic about this sort of thing.

>>782817

>It's debt that I can pay off instantly because of my savings.

^This idiot doesn't understand that credit card interest rates are about 15 times higher than whatever he has his savings in.

And he wants your money for a new risky business venture.

>>782853

why do you hate filipinos you seem to have some anger issues

>>782856

This idiot doesn't understand that I have a +800 credit score and cards with a 0% APR for 2 years while my high-yield savings account makes 5% APR.

>>782858

Who is your account with? Sounds pretty great.

>>782853

Josh had plenty of time

>>782837

Step one: ????

Step two: meme

>>782862

Ignore that guy. He goes around 8ch with a hateboner for Jim because he leaked his credit card number on a 2ch board with loli or something.

>>782858

>7k in debt on credit cards

>800 credit score

>No employment for the past three years

>0% APR

This guy wants you to "trust him."

>>782866

>Has no concept of how a credit score work.

This guy wants you to "trust him."

>>782867

Yet he still hasn't explained how this is going to get him out of debt and cover all his expenses

hmmmm

>>782869

It's a fucking interest gauge form you fucking idiot. You put in what your needs are so I can consider them when buying hardware and an email address I can contact you with once the service is up. You only pay a couple bucks a month. That's the total sum of your trust invested in me.

>>782862

not even a year for a complete from the ground rewrite, with perfect (as can be) caching to replace a highly traffic'd website from a single developer where people are yelling at him to focus on their autistic wants and needs?

get real, faggot. let's see your work.

If you are going to do something like this remember that being in the usa means that the tier one providers will backdoor your dns traffic. Assuming you don't become your own certificate authority then that gets backdoored too. Honestly anything privacy related in the usa is a crapshoot at best and suicide at worst. I honestly have no idea how 8ch has stayed up so long. Like the switch to freebsd and using openbsd here and there sure helps you stand out as somewhat more secure. But it still boggles my mind why kikeflare doesn't drop 8ch. The only thing I can think of is that kikeflare secretly backdoors the TLS/https traffic. Because for 8ch it uses a cloudflare certificate that has a generic *.8ch.net which is bad practice usually reserved for domain name hijackers.

I wonder how codekike verifies that the ssl traffic is not backdoored.....

>>782879

>If you are going to do something like this remember that being in the usa means that the tier one providers will backdoor your dns traffic.

I'll probably run my own DNS server but for now I don't want to be too ambitious. I'm definitely going to own my own IPv6 but I have no idea what I'm going to do about IPv4. They're so ridiculously expensive and I don't want to lease from my provider unless they put my PoC on the whois.

Not too concerned about the feds because this is a legitimate service being offered to people who need a backbone in their provider. Please do not use my servers to break the law.

>I wonder how codekike verifies that the ssl traffic is not backdoored.....

lol

>>782872

I know it's an interest gauge. I'm asking how you think this is going to help you out of your situation.

>>782896

no

What a timely opportunity the current situation is. DS gets BTFO by cloudflare and just in time josh comes beckoning with his muh solutions. why not just ask when the panic settles down.

>>782892

view his blockland history and you'll see that most of this is his usual behavior

>>782867

Trust me or not, I'm not the one asking people to go into a controversial experiment with them. I'm just saying do your homework on Joshua Moon, his present and his past. See what the general consensus is regarding his level of honesty, reasonableness, ability to deal with others in a professional manner, technical competence, carefulness with information and security, and attitude and transparency with other people's money.

>>782902

The more things change...

>>782904

Industry standard rate for a single slice VPS is 10 to 15 bucks mate. I'm not asking you to marry me.

>>782907

He's going to need a LOT of clients to get him out of debt...

>>782910

Okay? Why do you care? It's not like I'm going to steal your successful Japanese textboard and its domain name if you fail on a payment to make ends meet.

>>782912

Pretend I am in the market for a VPS. Why shoudl I choose yours instead of another VPS?

Don't use flashy terms like "Free speech" because I'm a normie who doesn't care about that shit and I have no intention on posting things that would make most hosts winge

>>782912

Because as one of maybe three people who don't want to see you get fed to the pigs I'm actually hoping you can turn shit around but don't see how this is going to do that.

>>782914

Also where the fuck you intend to get investors to help buying hardware and giving financial stability so your shit doesn't crash and burn after 2 months? Your name doesn't really have any credibility at all

>>782919

wrong person buddy

>>782914

>>782916

There's already a million VPS providers. If you're some mom and pop flower store on 9th street you're probably just going to want some shitty Wordpress shared hosting with GoDaddy or something. That's not my market.

The KF is going to go in this cabinet, on this service. People will start sending Cloudflare complaints, Cloudflare complaints go to the IP Whois. IP Whois is me. I publish the complaints in full again. People go ape, start advertising the service, say "shut it down shut it down", word gets around there's finally some balls attached to a server host again in the US. People start moving over. I've already got people wanting to move over. The first server is going to fill up in a month or two.

With one full server, I will make at least $200/mo off it, maybe up to $360/mo. That pays half the cabinet. Kiwi Farms is on it, that saves me $90/mo. Suddenly things start paying for themselves.

This is 4U ~ 8U (depending on what networking hardware I need) out of 42U. I still have at least 34U left in that cabinet. If each server is making (for sake of argument, bare minimum $200/mo), I can get $3400/mo just off this cabinet. $400 goes to the cabinet itself, spread a couple hundred dollars over misc expenses, and now I've got enough to live off, comfortably, enough to stash away for a rainy day, enough to put a lawyer on retainer, and enough to start fighting back the debt before I ever have to pay a dollar in finance charges.

But lets say I don't fill my entire cabinet. I only get modest sales. That's not my only work. I do IT shit for people for side money. So my little business stays afloat, the Kiwi Farms is tucked away safe and sound in my own cabinet with my own IP space, and I tread the water by doing legitimate business work legitimate individuals--something I'm already doing and will continue to do until I don't need to.

>>782919

I have savings. Why do I need to keep saying this?

This isn't a charity. I'm not begging you people for money. This is a business, this is what I plan to do, I would like to accommodate your existing high-risk services in the United States, if you want to move to me please fill out my form.

You do not pay me a dollar until the service is up and there is a VPS to give you immediately.

>>782902

he's still in touch with the girl on there, she still talks about him (in public and private), he's still acting exactly the same now as he was then according to her.

>>782920

I meant to complement your question not a direct reply

>>782922

>I stalked someone's internet girlfriend from 10 years ago to get the hard hitting facts about them

lol

>>782924

>implying she was his girlfriend

fucking lol

>>782924

She talked about it extensively on an older version of /cow/. She's pretty open about him being her Chris-Chan. And I didn't think reading a public-facing forum counts as stalking outside of tumblr.

>>782921

>word gets around there's finally some balls attached to a server host again in the US. People start moving over.

This is a really bad thing to hinge your business one.

>>782931

We'll see!

>>782931

There is definitely a huge gaping hole in north america for trustworthy ISP's and security related companies. I mean somewhat ok security not the le use lets encrypt certs cus reeeeeee nor the lets use high assurance codebases on verifiably secure hardware that is self built types either. Codekike could definitely make big bucks from non government and non kiked owned assets in the states.

Problem is advertising and I am certain the second he goes for it (((they))) will cry shut it down at the tier one ISP level. This place probably only exists as a information farm and personal army for several (((governments)))

Also unless there is multiple people doing what you plan then you become a single point of failure in the chain. If (((they))) compromise you physically or on your computer/connection/route to the servers then all are fucked.

TLDR

With jews you lose.

>>782929>>782933

>Problem is advertising and I am certain the second he goes for it (((they))) will cry shut it down at the tier one ISP level. This place probably only exists as a information farm and personal army for several (((governments)))

If that's it it's GG WP.

What countries should Plan Zyklon-B involve?

A problem with small VPS hosts is that police can bully them.

someone else on your VPS makes a threat through email or something, they can seize the entire server and your website goes down.

>>782932

You know what, fuck it. You only live once or some shit.

Good luck, Josh. I sincerely mean it. I hope you find success with this venture.

>>782936

hosts definitely need a procedure for preserving and imaging specific VMs. If you can't timely respond, police will rip the server out. If you're tiny (cock.li) they'll rip it out anyway.

8chan is a shithole trying to profit on hate and spreading paranoia about jews and then this hypocrite, who hosts a site that harasses people and crys when he gets stalked, comes in and trys to sell his fucking VPN. All of you getting brainwashed by Jim and his disciples like a cult. Why do you think this guy is in the phillipines and hiding behind Tor and cloudflare? Really shady if you ask me.

>>782949

Thanks cham

>>781913 (OP)

You've proved you cannot handle a PHP project. Why should I trust you to handle my servers?

>>782969

Hi cianigger. I knew this was too good to be true.

>>782969

BitMitigate is a VPS reseller running on BuyVM servers who have removed the Kiwi Farms as Clients.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2016-12-24-christmas-migration-from-frantech.26975/

As FranTec is a Canadian system, it obeys Canadian laws, and imports litigation from any other commonwealth country.

Sorry friendo.

>>782933

What do you plan to do about Sam "Straight porn god" Smith harassing your clients

>>782984

Are you addressing me (Josh)? Cuz that's not me (((Josh))).

If Sam harasses my clients I will sue him, because that's no longer Internet slapfight shit, that is measurable financial damages.

Otherwise I'm not exactly sure how they'd even find out. Is someone going to scan all my IPs to see which have open Port 80s and hope those websites lead to client dox?

>>782985

boy, you'd have to dig into your savings to hire a lawyer for that.

Unless you plan to represent yourself

>>782986

Sure I would, but guess who owns most of his house in England? Guess who is not protected from losing said house in a defamation lawsuit in any way?

I have a few friends in England who'd love a bedsit to rent.

>>782988

aha very nice.

You said you had serious clients who were already interested or is all of this nothing more then an interest check?

>>782989

I have a few immediate buyers who want this ASAP, but I'd like to get at least ~50 legitimate responses to my form before I start my contracts.

I'm going to buy the hardware now because I can find use for it even without the service going live due to lack of interest. The server is also, ironically, the least expensive thing.

>>782990

>calls himself libertarian but thinks all profitable businesses are bad

>thinks filling out a form steals money from him

smh 8chums

>>782993

Alright, well just make sure you don't do anything to piss off your clients 'cuz you have a tendancy to do that and these are the guys paying your bill.

>>782998

RIP.

>>783000

Short version: I think Josh is going to fuck with the one or two clients he will have and drive them off

That, or this whole venture won't turn out as profitable as it needs to be.

>>783001

No, I meant RIP to Next. I'm a good businessman, I just didn't care about pissing people off on 8chan because at a certain point I just couldn't make people happy and Pale Moon users are niggers who should be gunned down in the streets like the degenerates they are.

>>783002

This ain't like your forum though, being an edgelord like this will prob scare off customers instead of them just having to grin and bare it

>>783004

Vincent Canfield is what I like to call "ironically professional", in that his services are all silly or weird on the front but once you dig into them and VC's mannerisms, they are truly done well. VC is a great guy to try and emulate in that regard, IMO.

>>783008

>some guy people never heard of

Yeah, great man to emulate

>>783008

Thing is, Vincents actually charming. Calling random niggers niggers or tweeting that hitler did nothing wrong isn't charming unless you're a skinhead yourself.

which may be what you are going for I guess so shit, keep at it.

>>783010

>posting on 8chums

>not knowing VC

oh gosh when will summer end???

>>783012

I never said I was as charming as VC!! Golly, is that even possible?

>>783015

No, because unlike VC, you're just unpleasant as shown here.

>>783018

Dunno what to say fella. I take support related stuff very seriously. I'm sorry if me being a shithead on /tech/ gives a different perspective.

>>783022

Glaive started dating a prostitute and started doing blow with her. Then he comes back and starts telling everyone he lied about being a virgin to manipulate Wizardchan into trusting him so he could dox them all, when the truth was that he got molested as a preteen by an older woman and that fucked up his relationship with women and turned him into a timid boy afraid of girls.

I don't care what your life story is and if you got molested that fucking sucks and I'm sorry that happened to you, but don't come to my website, befriend my users and my friends, get promoted into a position of power and then turn yourself into an active threat against all of them because I will fucking eat you alive. I'd probably have done worse than tell people his secret if I didn't consider him a close personal friend. If anything I was fucking devastated that bumbling tool became everything he railed against while an admin on Wizard; some cuck who ruined himself to impress a fucking woman. What's not seen in that screenshot in the discussion beforehand and I don't care.

At this point there is nothing anyone can do to me now to trigger an emotional response out of me. I'm past that. There is no new Glaive and there's nothing you can say about me as a client on my VPS service to get me to care enough to pull it and jeopardize my reputation with our clients.

>>783025

>Implying this is what actually happened

>Implying anyone cares

Really there's a whole laundry list of moments where you act like a total sped in the face of adversity but this was the first one that I dug up and had saved. Somewhere there's a screencap of you telling your forum users that they are little more then numbers on a graph which caused Hellblazer to retire from staff.

Just make sure you don't scare off any of your buyers who "Want this ASAP" with your spitefullness. I woulden't count your chickens before they hatch either because unless they've been in contact with you and have the money in hand to shill out for your 'bulletproof' hosting.

>>783030

Money won't be an issue and I'll handle my clients respectfully. I'd probably even host Sammy's blog just to show my dedication to what I say.

>>783031

Well, I hope not, Josh. You're kinda on your last legs here and if this venture fucks up - which, I'll be honest with you, I think it will - then hopefully you're still able to go back to timesheets as donations on the farms only go so far, and they go a lot less farther if people have to figure out what a bitcoin is.

>>783033

If I can't dedicate myself to having fun on the Internet I'll probably just take a dirtnap fam. I'll never do Timesheets again.

I'm probably one of the few people who say "Josh dindu nuffin" but keep up the good work lad. Who you are does not matter if you can do a good job hosting. Sadly I am a poorfag so I cannot rent space but I'd love to host Nextchan there.

Also palemoon is good mmkay

>>782993

>The server

What are you getting?

Well I guess you don't have to do your homework as a potential customer after all. A sneak preview of the crazy you'll have the pleasure of dealing with is right in this here thread >>783025

I will say this about Josh though: he isn't inhibited by self doubt. Despite failure after spectacular failure, he's still got the heart to put out this idea.

>>783099

None of the stuff he said about glaive is really true. Not mentioned is that a few months prior he aired dirty laundry between Glaive, the ex that cheated on him and a few others in an event he called the bloodletting. Private stuff really that he had no business in. Decided to make the whole thing a spectacle.

So no, Glaive was never trying to take over his community and friends as he states in a paranoid rage, Josh just screwed over his then-friend and coder-administrator.

>>783034

May I ask why you're so adverse to even a part time job? Even if you're looking to live off of a project (which no sane person could hold against you), why not get some 20h a week gig to put a bigger dent in your debt?

>>783101

>None of the stuff he said about glaive is really true

lol

Meth-Addled Thinking ...the thread.

autism

>>783138

>has never been around meth

>has no idea what meth is

>has no idea what affect meth has on the body

>has never had a glance at a true crime television program featuring meth

>posts on internet about meth

>>783109

Real work is too much for the defender of free speech!

>>783111

If Glaive was a one time thing, I'd just cross it off. But he has a history of antagonizing people.

To mind: During I-Next, there was a developer of another chan platform called Lynxchan. Josh constantly went out of his way to berate both him and his more optimized code, even as Lynx went out of his way to help Josh with some tech problems.

Then theres Hotwheels, post I-Next. I'm not bringing up I-Next itself because I'll have the guy who thinks Josh did literally nothing wrong - this is what happened afterwards. Upset and wanting to smear HW, he gathered up some of the logs he had with the intention to smear HW over the course of a few weeks. Of course, Hotwheels has oil slicks, so he dumped the logs first and layed out exactly what happened before Josh could tell people "the truth" in a way spun to make him a tall and mighty hero.

Theres prob a ton of other events like this but these few come to mind. Josh is easy to piss off for the most trivial things and if your site is hosted under him then he will probably fuck with it and justify it under bullshit pretenses.

>>783202

>went out of his way to berate both him and his more optimized code

Lynx's code isn't "optimized" you fucking retard. It's just the nodejs version of vichan. That is, it (re)caches to a document store based on actions. Infinity Next had no caching, but it could have, given time. The plan was to use varnish as it was supposed to be.

You also left out the fact that lynx was in the infinity-dev channel for months antagonizing Josh because he was upset that he wasn't chosen to write software.

You also leave out the fact that Hotwheels was berating him because he wouldn't sign copyright over to Jim. Jim did not own Next. Jim did not pay a cent for Next. Jim wanted to hire Josh in exchange for making Next closed source. Hotwheels was also just being a dick in general and antagonizing him to the userbase to make it seem like Josh was some evil guy who was running off with thousands of dollars. It was Hotwheels and Jim's terms that required Josh come and live in the Philippines and spend people's money to live.

Take the Infinity Next drama and shove it up your ass. Stop sucking administration dick.

Even Ron has realized how bad vichan/Infinity is now that he's had the time to fully dive into and grasp the dumpster fire.

>>783204

Hey arn't you the guy with the weird hateboner for Jim who pops up everywhere he is mentioned?

>You also left out the fact that lynx was in the infinity-dev channel for months antagonizing Josh because he was upset that he wasn't chosen to write software.

We have logs, no he wasn't, other way around.

>Then theres Hotwheels, post I-Next. I'm not bringing up I-Next itself because I'll have the guy who thinks Josh did literally nothing wrong - this is what happened afterwards

>>783205

>the weird hateboner

Who wouldn't go around correcting retards like yourself who spread such lies, only to absolve the administration of this website?

>We have logs, no he wasn't, other way around.

Dude, if you'd have read the logs you'd see that Lynx was shitposting for a year.

>I'll have the guy who thinks Josh did literally nothing wrong - this is what happened afterwards

I don't think Josh did nothing wrong. I think he listened to autists and underestimated his time table. I'm actually envious, it's great to learn a lesson in project management like that. Sure it pissed a bunch of people off but now he and hotwheels will never make dead-set estimations like this. Not that adding a bunch of people to the project (rule 1 in software development, more people does not deliver faster) would've helped, but certainly tailoring someone to work on very important and specific tasks like the upper caching layer interaction with varnish would've helped.

Shove it up your ass, faggot. Go rim the dud. Nothing is ever going to make you correct. You keep implying that my position is "Josh did nothing wrong" but the fact is that's not true. It's only in response to "The administration did nothing wrong, here's a guy who stole money."

Now, go ahead and actually respond to the fact that it was Jim's and Hotwheel's terms that he move and spend people's money to live. Suck a dick.

>>783208

tbh fam jim is a cool guy by me for ripping off josh. what are your thoughts on this?

>>783211

>ripping off Josh

No one was ripped off except for the users. That's why you dhould be fucking pissed. Josh got a vacation living in the third world (veritably boxed in with the clock ticking on other people's money) and refused to give ownership of his software over to someone who had not paid a cent.

>We have logs, no he wasn't, other way around.

I thought that the logs get deleted every 24 hours?

pics or it didn't happen.

>>783214

>I thought that the logs get deleted every 24 hours?

IRC logs? Don't fucking think so m8

There's also an incident I just remember about Josh when he still had root access to 8chan once shut down this board (? could have been another) because they were talking shit about him for like an hour

>>783142

Meth-Addled Thinking ...the post.

>xoxo,

>josh

>(yes that josh)

Into the trash it goes

josh will never achieve anything

>>783242

Jim required Josh to come and work. To do that and work full time on the software he had to spend other people's money. This isn't hard to grasp, you fucking moron.

>>783247

This is why you shouldn't talk about shit you don't understand. You don't "remember" the incident, you heard about it from other morons. Then it turned into a game of telephone.

What happened was that Josh was load balancing boards over to the new software to test it. Because of dud's captcha, it was too much load. To bring load back down to normal, he put a static page up.

As for "shutting things down" for an hour, browsers probably caching the redirect from the load balancer..

You haven't a clue how technology works. Fuck off, moron.

>>783344

This isn't related to load balancing. This is replacing a board with the text "THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE" after they made fun of him. Don't talk about things you don't understand. You haven't a clue how technology works. Fuck off, moron.

>>783368

>This is replacing a board with the text "THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE" after they made fun of him.

No, faggot, he responded to all requests on the test server with that static page so he could get the load down. And it does have to do with load balancing because the 8chan/vichan board was totally unaffected.

Let's give you a diagram of why you're a fucking retard:

                       ____ Infinity Next PHP server
                      /                  |
Load balancer ==== Static file server
(Configured to \                   |
 redirect /v/      \____ vichan PHP server (writes files to static)
 and select
 boards to
 test server)

The load balancer was instructed to redirect /v/ to the test server, and browsers probably cached temporary redirects. The 8chan board was fine, it wasn't replaced with anything.

You're a moron. Please leave /tech/, and never return.

>>783381

Yeah, you obviously don't know what I am talking about and I don't want to go hunting for the screenie of Josh being Josh. I'm pretty sure he did it to /tech/ and not /v/.

This isn't related to load balancing, its related to something else. You're a moron. Please leave /tech/, and never return.

>>783388

He did it to every board that was load balanced. It's a fucking static page that the test server was responding with. Stop listening to games of telephone and stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

You're just a straight up fucking retard. What are you doing on /tech/ anyways?

>>783388

He did it to every board that was load balanced. It's a fucking static page that the test server was responding with. Stop listening to games of telephone and stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

You're just a straight up fucking retard. What are you doing on /tech/ anyways?

>>783381

This diagram makes about as much sense as RQI's infrastructure

>>783400

I was trying to explain to the retard that the board was not "replaced" with a static page, but that the test server was responding with a static page. He seems to be under the impression that Josh replaced /tech/, or /v/, or whatever board was named in the game of telephone he heard it from, with a static page because they were making fun of him.

When, in reality, the test server was responding with a static page and the load balancer was responding to certain URLs with this static page because of the configuration.

can i post

>>783405

Okay fine, he didn't "replace" it with a static page because they made fun of him, he redirected it.

Semantics changes nothing here. You're just a straight up fucking retard. What are you doing on /tech/ anyways?

>>783416

The redirects were configured before the static page was put up.

Any response with the page was just a cached response past 20 minutes or so.

Repeating yourself is a sign of autism. I imagine that you're a drooling autist who came here to give your two cents on Josh, but the fact is that you're just a drooling autist.

>>783416

>What are you doing on /tech/ anyways?

He's a spastic who can't let go of a grudge against Jim. Due to his autism he doesn't understand why no one else gives a shit. That's what it boils down to.

>>783426

>He's a spastic who can't let go of a grudge against Jim.

wew laddy, that's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever did see such a thing.

And actually, I don't care about Jim, personally. I show up when you retarded wastes of life show up bitching about Josh because I enjoy toying with your wormy, fucked head.

How does it feel to be wrong, aspie? Not just wrong, but everything that this userbase despised: a hypocrite. You suck the dick of the administration despite the fact that they're wrong.

>>783344

He moved there because it was cheap and he couldn't stay in Australia any longer, you fucking moron.

>>783388

IIRC he did it to /v/

>>783416

>straight up fucking retard

>What are you doing on /tech/

You answered your own question.

>>783451

>He moved there because it was cheap and he couldn't stay in Australia any longer

No, that's wrong, again.

He was back in the US and whining about how he didn't have a job. Was doing work for the site before that. Conditions were that he would have to move to Philippines if he wanted the "job" which was just crowdfunding money. Jim didn't want to pay anything besides providing cheap desktop servers in his colo racks when it meant that the work was going to be free software.

Keep it up, dipshit. Want me to write an entire fucking treatise on the lore of 8chan, I will. Stop pretending you know shit.

>>783454

Oh, no, wait, there was some talk of Josh working on some dumbass crowdfunding clone that Jim and his gook son wanted to shit out.

Didn't come to fruition, like most of their sorry projects. Riding on the coattails of his porn site network and 2channel (another site where he uprooted the owner after providing hosting), and some shitty outsourcing work undercutting US wages. What a businessman. Oh, there was that radio network idea. Looked like shit, better execution from a faggot in their basement who wrote a single file PHP script (that cirno website for weeaboo radio.)

Slipped my mind, sorry. However could I forget.

/tech/ - Josh Lore & Expanded Universe

If it's Jim's fault, then it would be nice to move on to Josh's infrastructure. At least Josh cared about keeping the software free. Also he could provide some kind of backup for 8chan users when shit goes down here.

>>783565

Jim is too arbitrary to make decisions that'd involve doing business with someone he does not like.

>>783565

You're missing my point entirely. It's not the sole fault of anyone. Jim provides servers, and that's great. But to say that any one person was responsible for a massive clusterfuck is just dumb.

Josh fucked up. Jim fucked up. Hotwheels fucked up. Hotwheels cat fucked up. Ron fucked up. Whatever that faggot javascript developer's name is (not lynx) fucked up. Their database administrator fucked up.

All to varying degrees. It's not Jim or Josh's fault entirely. Jim is an asshole, Josh is an asperger, Hotwheels is a bad project manager.

>>783454

>Want me to write an entire fucking treatise on the lore of 8chan, I will.

Heh, I don't doubt that.

>>783454

>Want me to write an entire fucking treatise on the lore of 8chan

Go for it, autismo

>>783454

>Want me to write an entire fucking treatise on the lore of 8chan, I will.

Do it, faggot.

i want a josh/cripple sex scene

t. josh

I've been calling up ISPs from HE to Level-3 and going over their AUPs and holy fucking good lord this country is done for.

I can't even believe it. I cannot believe that my country can't host a website that is offensive.

A CSR rep even said, on the topic of content, "The fact you can be upfront and call it 'hatespeech' is proof that this content does not send a 'positive message'."

bitch what the fuck does it matter to you? are not trying to sell me something? why do I have to fucking sweet talk you into caring about the daily stormer?

I've been told more than once to 'host outside the US'. it just floors me. why? why do I have to host outside the US content legal in the US?

it really, really

really

r e a l l y

rustles my jimbobs

flusterbuckets me

doodles my noodle

piddles my pantamimes

like what the fuck I just want to make fun of retards on the goddamn internet what's the fuckin problem

>>783099

None of the stuff he said about glaive is really true. Not mentioned is that a few months prior he aired dirty laundry between Glaive, the ex that cheated on him and a few others in an event he called the bloodletting. Private stuff really that he had no business in. Decided to make the whole thing a spectacle.

So no, Glaive was never trying to take over his community and friends as he states in a paranoid rage, Josh just screwed over his then-friend and coder-administrator.

>>783736

Better get your ass moving to Taiwan and hope that Sammy doesn't report your site to the Chinese authorities when someone makes a snide mark at the government!

>>783736

See >>782879 and >>782934

With kikes you lose. Become your own tier one provider(hint you can't) or die in the words of those kikes.

>>783737

>Better get your ass moving to Taiwan and hope that Sammy doesn't report your site to the Chinese authorities when someone makes a snide mark at the government!

我爱北京天安门！

>>783737

>None of the stuff he said about glaive is really true.

lol

>>783744

how much do you plan to charge for your service? If it's like ten bucks/month, then you'd need about a hundred clients to break even on server costs for the farms. You can probobly lessen that number if you're able to take donations, but my point is that your "final solution hosting" will need a ton of people backing it to make money. And remember: You're still in debt. So you need to do a hell of a lot better then "breaking even"

>>783752

Our first server will have room for at least 24 'slices' at (1x2.93GHz + 2GB RAM + >=25GiB SSD) ea. Privately held IPv6 /64 for free, privately held iPv4 available at additional cost.

I'm not planning to meter connections but if you're over-consuming I'll have to contact you so that everyone can get what they're paying for. That's all very standard for the business.

>And remember: You're still in debt. So you need to do a hell of a lot better then "breaking even"

>trying to explain to a Jewsh money

lol. At this point I'm like a cockroach. I'm pretty sure nuclear fallout couldn't wipe me out for too long.

The price / break-even point will be based on what contract I end up entering into with a datacenter. I've received some more information since my last post and I'm confident I can get this working for less than I previously thought.

I aim to be competitive with industry standards while also not making myself a charity case. What I will provide will be relatively unique to this country and it will be worth a premium.

I'll also probably keep the prices low by charging a fee for dealing with abuse reports. Something like a dollar for a standard complaint, a little more for having to mediate a DMCA complaint, and a little more on top of that for having to deal with an urgent child pornography alert. If the DMCA complaint is not valid (signed under perjury, legal address) it'll be priced as a regular complaint. If the CP complaint is about drawn pornography it will be priced as a regular complaint.

That's what I have in mind. I'm sorry if that sounds a little bit ^>() but a nigga gotta eat.

DS and the rest are not having a problem with hosting. Its the DNS. And ya sure you could just direct link to an IP. But good luck doing DDOS mitigation with out DNS.

>>783776

I think you're misinformed.

>>783770

>Charge your clients money for dealing with abuse reports

SAM SMITH INTENSIFIES

> If the CP complaint is about drawn pornography it will be priced as a regular complaint.

Oh god, so there's absolutely no reason to use your host if you just plan to host lolicon.

>>783787

>SAM SMITH INTENSIFIES

I am not a machine. If someone is trying to abuse this system I will exempt you from charge.

>>783787

>Oh god, so there's absolutely no reason to use your host if you just plan to host lolicon.

How many complaints do you receive as a lolicon host, exactly?

I'll rephrase. If it is a junk complaint I do not need to mediate, I will not charge anything. If it is something I actually have to inquire about to get a follow-up on (i.e. a violent threat, child pornography, spam, etc) then it will be subject to charge.

I don't care if a paedophile terrorist from the Islamic Republic of Londonstan sends me a ten threats a day. I'll dumpster them every god damn time. If you're not deleting child pornography off your site faster than it takes for an abuse report to be filed with me, especially routinely, then we will need to talk, because that jeopardizes everyone's service.

>>783790

Sites that cater to pedos in denial (aka loli lovers) tend to host their servers in places where the law doesn't consider lolicon porn as child porn. I imagine its the same with DMCA stuff, but I'm no expert.

Otherwise though, I imagine they'd get tons to the point of not being able to function.

>>783791

The law does not consider lolicon to be child pornography in the United States, with the limited exception of lolicon made in the likeness (or traced over) real children.

>>783793

It's always a very fine line. I think 3d images ( like say, r34 stuff made in source filmmaker) are considered "child porn".

Be advised though that Sam "Straight Porn God" Smith isn't going to just make his bullshit complaints without completely any merit - he's going to try and make them look as real as he can get them. Fortunetly I think you know his handiwork by now.

Charging money per complaint is a dumb idea though.

>>783794

> think 3d images ( like say, r34 stuff made in source filmmaker) are considered "child porn".

The black letter of the law says the article must be "indistinguishable" from real child pornography.

>Charging money per complaint is a dumb idea though.

Well if the service is bulletproof hosting I don't see why. You're basically paying me a premium to put up with the bullshit white noise your risque content brings.

>>783786

DS didn't get shut down because they lost hosting. They got shut down because they lost their domain name (3 or 4 times) and can't get another one now.

They still have hosting (the .onion still works, thats hosted somewhere) and a company thats willing to do the DDOS mitigation. But DDOS mitigation can not work with out DNS and if they give out the direct host IP the whole colo center will get DDOS'ed off the face of the earth.

Look at weev's gab posts. They arn't trying to start a hosting company. They are talking about starting a domain register.

>>783796

>But DDOS mitigation can not work with out DNS

It's just a reverse proxy, you don't need DNS

>>783790

>If someone is trying to abuse this system I will exempt you from charge.

Fair.

If you want to host a service for western users (US+Europe) then you should host in China. If you want to host in the US, then you should be hosting a service for Chinese users.

>>782990

RIP in peace, Rowdy.

>>783832

need

vs

the way it's implemented by kikeflare

>>783927

So why don't you list some that don't NEED dns?

>>783836

>Not being a civic nationalist

You have to go back.

>>784036

Isn't civic nationalist the inclusive type of nationalism that retard /pol/ apes go fucking nuts over

>>784158

It is but Josh is using "muh country" as a selling point not "muh race" despite the edgy name. Typical autism on his part.

>>784232

>Typical autism on his part.

<If only he made his server about white nationalism !!"' That autist !!''

>>784158

Civic Nationalism is the belief multiculturalism can work if you have a flag.

>>784364

He's autistic because he's making the name a Holocaust joke but not realizing people will interpret it as a business aimed primarily at antisemites rather than American patriots.

>>784413

holocaust jokes much edgelord. also he calls pale moon niggers wow much edge

>>784577

pale moon niggers stole based joshua connor moon's name

>>784588

it's php little pale moon niggers

>>784588

Yeah, that seems petty enough for him to hate them

>>784615

that and their browser is utterly shit

>>784687

sure but calling them niggers? wow much edge[

>>785039

>dvd rom drive

lol

>>785063

ye nig in case i want to watch some movies

>>785073

your server looks like a crackerbox

>>785114

weak bants, she's a byoot

>>785118

She's nine years old, Mohammed.

>>785073

You realise that assuming you make the price per month 10 dollers to host that you'd need 100 clients to break even on the farms, right?

Sure, you could take IT work but I really don't think you will and YOU DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO TIMESHEETS

>>785213

lmfao dude are you just going to sit there and try and complain about literally everything you can

The price will be more than industry standard just because it'll be me answering the complaints for people. That might not sound like a huge deal, but I wouldn't even be doing this if it weren't. I only need 24x$20 to break completely even.

>>785290

got me laid, what's your excuse

>>785213

>Sure, you could take IT work but I really don't think you will and YOU DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO TIMESHEETS

(And no, you can't 'go back to timesheets' in my position without a namechange. I have to keep a lot of papers current for the KF that'd eventually leak a namechange, so the two ideas are mutually exclusive. Either host my sites and be who I am, or change my name and drop everything.)

>>785301

(((Pale Moon)))

>>785290

kek I know thats probably a shop but still fucking hilarious

>>785301

Now post Hotdud's opinions on the furfag browser.

Hint: they were much more savage. No one cares about your autism browser, dipshit. No one cares about browsers like this, period, except for autists. That's why we have a dozen browser threads up. Because of drooling autists like you.

>>785310

The only reason why people prefer Palemoon is that it looks straight outta Windows 98 and it satisfies the autist's brain problems.

>>785290

>lmfao dude are you just going to sit there and try and complain about literally everything you can

Hey man, We all know how great you are with money. It's better to figure this shit out now rather then get surprised and angry down the line.

>The price will be more than industry standard just because it'll be me answering the complaints for people.

Oh, great. Yeah, on top of charging people for complaints (which means you'd have to manually decipher which ones are Sammy and which ones are legit, wasting possibly hours of your time) as well as the name of it (scaring away all but neo-nazis and the most desperate of people needing a host) I see your buisness going far

>>785340

Are you speaking as a prospective or as someone who's just taking the piss?

>>785342

Both

>>783202

>Theres prob a ton of other events like this

Go ask /cow/'s moderation what it's like dealing with Josh for years on end. He has a bizarre love hate relationship with them and lolcow.farm.

I'm a huge faggot please rape my face

>>785918

Yeah, cuz he wants to absorb both into his lolcow empire

>>785932

Strange how he's surprisingly quiet on this topic

How is this coming along? I have needs that need to be met.

>>785932

I'm surprised he's not calling this Lolcow Hosting.

>>785932

He wants the skinhead audiance

>>785340

>as well as the name of it (scaring away all but neo-nazis and the most desperate of people needing a host)

kill yourself. literally nobody cares about the name except some white collar faggots with PR on the line, who'd be perfectly well off using amazon or whatever bullshit is trendy these days

>>785932

They will if their host occasionally makes crude anti-semitic comments

>>786844

You're just repeating what he said. Literally nobody will care about this except the weak and vulnerable; the business model is for kids who have to prove they have something to prove by being cringingly edgy to swarm here like flies on shit.

>>781943

He reanimated himself from the pig shit, like vid related but with shit instead of blood and slime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWD23_pyOGU

>>786901

>offensive stuff is edgy

found the closet SJW

I don't think this service will work since it charges you for abuse reports, but I don't _care_ what logo a service has, as long as it has what I need. And no I am not repeating what he said, as there are thousands of viable web hosts to put your shit on. I am saying precisely that the people who do avoid something because "muh PR" are clustered around the likes of Amazon because it's a "safe" choice for them to host their meaningless crap on.

>>786923 (continued)

to put this a different way, I am saying that white collar faggots are already clustered around Amazon and maybe 2 other hosting services. there are thousands of other viable services, and they will not use any of those services, regardless of whether they have a politically correct logo or not

Did Josh announce pricing yet?

>>786940

he's still struggling with putting the ubuntu CD in right side up

>>786923

It's more that it has a nazi edgelord name on top of costing more, charging you for abuse reports and being ran by a man who routinly enjoys fucking over others. And for what? Plenty of other servers offer "Bulletproof hosting" (The kiwi was once on one but had to fuck off because they didn't want to bring it to court) and the only other benefit of Final Solution hosting is that its hosted in america.

I dont think people give two shits about where somethings hosted so long as they can get to it on time.

Probably worth remembering that Josh offered to host other risky sites in the past like ED and they told him to fuck off.

>>787311

>ed wants to be shut down

Josh is our only hope once again

>>782050

>>>782030

>>Run a company that works like cloudflare but end-to-end SSL and doesn't take down sites ever, just forwards the complaints to them and makes it "their responsibility" to contact the host. Rent a dedicated server in Sweden, service providers there are literally never responsible unless they "tamper" with the servers. We already have a VPN provider like that where you get a static IP and can forward whatever ports you want, they don't log you or anything so it's like hosting at home but abuse complaints go in the trash.

>Any idea how a Cloudflare clone could make money?

FUGG, any idea how cludfare makes monkeys?

Hopefully Josh will finally kill himself after this project crashes and burns.

Any updates on this, joshie?

plz save us josh senpai

Josh is dead. I had him assassinated.

>>790130

> Josh is dead. I had him assassinated.

Did you give those pigs a medal?

this dream mustn't die

>>792083

Oh, dumbfuck me I forgot to mention what Zones and LX-branded Zones are. Zones are like FreeBSD Jails (no, not like Docker containers, those suck). LX-branded Zones are Linux kernel binary-compatible Zones which you can drop whole GNU/Linux distros into and have them work. Yes, native GNU/Linux-compiled software running bare-metal on Solaris.

Speaking of Docker, SmartOS can also do Docker-in-Zones so SmartOS is probably the most secure solution for Docker.

Do not virtualize SmartOS. It's fine to, but not smart to performance-wise. Get the bare metal hardware SmartOS can run on (Illumos can be picky) and stock your datacenter with those and run SmartOS on the metal. You want to host as many clients on each box as you can, and you can't if you don't cut as much stupid middle-shit out as possible between customer and metal.

>1 month

>no deliverable

>every single time

>>782169

>>781913 (OP)

there's good fucking reasons this doesn't exist in the US anymore, you aren't smart enough to reinvent the wheel nor (obvs) do you have the capital to fund this or the necessary legal team behind it. shut up and fuck off

>>792118

I think he already did

>>792096

>two months later

>still "pre-registering clients"

rip

>>792090

>>792083

>implying Josh knows what any of that is

>>797280

daily reminder that this guy's main source of income is a site where he accuses others of stealing money exactly like he's doing

Jews

Fuck, wish I'd heard of this before I got fed up and built my own dual Xeon server.

IT'S BEEN

>>805915

its dead, jim

>>806235

TWELVE game overs WEEKS

>>781913 (OP)

>with a policy of not giving a shit about complaints, except where required

The best way to do this would be a blockchain incentivized decentralized network. Individual users could host your VPS software and would be paid with tokens by those wishing to leverage their nodes for personal use. The tokens could be ERC20 based and traded on cryptocurrency exchanges. A decentralized system like this would be the best way to avoid dealing with abuse complaints because you would have zero control over anything on the VPS end of things.

>>815293

>decentralized

>VPS

are you retarded?

>>815298

>are you retarded?

Are you?

>>815303

I asked first though

>Joshua Connor Moon the INFINITY NEVER EVER pedo

>Kiwifarms is falling

>puts a bitcoin miner botnet on his site to use viewers' machines to make money

>will allow cartoon pedoshit and animalfucking

https://archive.is/ToRTQ#selection-1949.1-1949.30

Bumping because the VPS business is just waiting on my IP address allocation to go through the bureaucracies. You'll get a really good deal if you sign up early!

What will you do if this doesn't solve your financial issues? What's the backup plan?

>>825175

more e-begging

>>825175

Oh it will. Success is guaranteed. But if - if perchance this fails and I have to sell the farms then I'm releasing everything via bittorrent, changing my name and moving to China which values free speech unlike the cucked USA

>>815413

>forum for sociopaths turns out to be a bunch of broke losers

Almonds.

I'm thinking about handing out a few free accounts so you guys can give your opinion about my services. You can even keep it after the test-drive but I'll have to cap it to 500Mb/month and you'll have to run my miner if that's alright

>>825347

:^)

>>825393

Don't you meme face me. Once we're live, you'll be kissing my ass for an invite.

>>783454

>Want me to write an entire fucking treatise on the lore of 8chan, I will.

DO IT

>>785294

You seriously think a legal name change will fix your shit reputation? Why the fuck would I trust you to secure the host my vps will be running on?

>>826521

Everyone else: Just wait for a cockbox slot to open up. At least vc has a track record.

>>824890

>has no response to >>815413

>>825347

You should give me your bitcoin address's login credentials for safekeeping. I promise I won't empty the account.

>>825347

>moving to China which values free speech

Nice bait but not even Josh is that dumb.

rip freeze peeks warrior

>>826521

lol retard, they'll totally seal up the documents because Sam Smith keeps attacking my family.

>>825352

ACTIVATED

lol over three months and nothing to fucking show for it

>>828080

joke's on you daily stormer will sign up and make kiwi millions

>>781913 (OP)

Can I upload all my candydoll sets? There's a certain somewhat well known imageboard that has been around for many years that still allows them and that is hosted in the US, so they can't be illegal in all states, right? It's hosted at fdcservers by the way