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 No.1024778>>1024786 >>1024896 >>1025157 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Why do programmers continue to work for FREE after already programming at their job all day?

No other profession exhibits this stupid behavior. Truly the most cucked people on the planet.

 No.1024783

It's a competitive field and just clocking in, doing your job, and leaving at the end of the day is not enough to sufficiently stand out to keep full time employment in many markets. Gotta have that github.


 No.1024786>>1024847


 No.1024787>>1024806

>No other profession exhibits this stupid behavior

Except for you know, for all other creative professions


 No.1024806>>1024811 >>1024856

>>1024787

>programming

>creative

What's next, niggas on the moon?


 No.1024811>>1024815

>>1024806

>programming

>not creative

No wonder why code ends up being unmaintainable and inefficient as hell.


 No.1024815>>1024818 >>1024820

>>1024811

artistic creativness is inefficient by nature


 No.1024818

>>1024815

Minimalism is all about optimization. Just because some artists want to be baroque doesn't mean that's what art is about.


 No.1024820>>1024833

>>1024815

False; creativity is solving a problem by coming up with a new solution, i.e. by creating a solution rather than using an existing one. And I'm not making a semantic argument. What goes into creating new music is also what goes into creating a new software. You can reuse existing patterns as appropriate (e.g. openssl or the Amen break) but if that's all you ever do, you're not going to be breaking any new ground.


 No.1024826

Well some people have hobbies that they can use to make money.

If you are so cucked to do something you hate all day, every day, thats your problem.

Also imagine what would happen, if for example a cook didn't touch food after work.


 No.1024833>>1024964 >>1025334

>>1024820

>you're not going to be breaking any new ground.

Considering you're on /tech/ and not personally making any groundbreaking discoveries in programming, you shouldn't pretend like 'breaking new ground' is of any importance. You can cobble together some shitty 'original' music that sounds 'original' (aka like garbage) or you can use existing sounds/plugins to get something that sounds coherent and professional out of the box.


 No.1024847

>>1024786

/thread


 No.1024856

>>1024806

i love death grips!


 No.1024863>>1024866 >>1024870 >>1024873 >>1025170

OPEN SOURCE = CUCK and SLAVERY

idiots develop open source for free, then jewish corporation like google or redhat steals their shit, makes a botnet from it, earn shekels (without sharing half cent with open source niggers)


 No.1024866>>1024870 >>1024876 >>1024892 >>1024903 >>1025082 >>1025904

>>1024863

Sad but true in a lot of cases. What is your proposed solution? How can developers keep their software open without being forced to do it for free?


 No.1024870

>>1024866

>>1024863

Samefag less obviously next time.


 No.1024873>>1024876

>>1024863

>then jewish corporation like google or redhat steals their shit

That hardly ever happens. It's safer to develop the same software in-house than use some GPL code illegally.


 No.1024876

>>1024866

>Sad but true in a lot of cases. What is your proposed solution? How can developers keep their software open without being forced to do it for free?

why do they want to keep it open?

but if they want, the could use Communist License, that wouldn't allow code to be used by any commercial entity. GPL is cuck license, Stallman is a jew

>>1024873

>then jewish corporation like google or redhat steals their shit

>That hardly ever happens. It's safer to develop the same software in-house than use some GPL code illegally.

it happens every day

Google stole linux kernel and used it for Android. they added a lot of botnet and binary blobs, all android phones are botnet, steal user data, track users, contain binary code. open source code was used by jews to hurt goys. and jews got zero consequences for that. open source shits didn't even bomb google headquarters in israel.


 No.1024892

>>1024866

Don't be open source. Make program, start company, sell that shit. The portion of the community that cares about safety/security will find out if you're being honest or not on their own.


 No.1024896

>>1024778 (OP)

>Why do programmers continue to work for FREE after already programming at their job all day?

I guess you could say that your mom is making your free tendy meals after her works done and that she's retarded because she's not selling it to you ?


 No.1024903>>1024998

>>1024866

PFOSS

Paid "Free" Open Source Software

Access the Source for a one-time or monthly fee


 No.1024950

That's how you learn shit. It's fast moving field with a lot of try-hards.


 No.1024964

>>1024833

If you cobble stuff together then the actual time spent becomes marketting rather than making something new.

This is why modern art sucks so badly. It's also why increasingly programming looks like some fag running import Lib; Lib.run() and then giving a talk at some conference about kernel hacking or monads or something.


 No.1024993

Because of socialistic ideas that open source hippies put in their heads.

Work free, give away your code, and something good will come out.

But all socialist experiments usually end up with shortage of toilet paper.


 No.1024996>>1024998 >>1025020 >>1025170

> Paid "Free" Open Source Software

This is actually exactly how original Unix worked.

You could buy an academic license and study its internals.

It was the time when software was well designed and professional programmers were well-paid rock stars.

But then open source hippies nationalized Unix and turned it into socialistic nightmare.


 No.1024998

>>1024903

>>1024996

Recent example: grsecurity patches


 No.1025019

Training, retard corporate zombies bring in a new system in a new language ever few years which means you have to keep up, but you also need to remember the old languages because the old systems never get shut down. Let the good times roll!


 No.1025020

>>1024996

All the money these days is in hacking the shitty tranny code that runs crypto exchanges.


 No.1025051

Other professions don't have their "code all day and share the software, you'll be free, anon, you'll be freeeee" Stallman travelling the world for decades and preaching to them to work for free.


 No.1025082

>>1024866 (checked)

>step 1: remove the jews

>step 2: ???

>step 3: profit


 No.1025157

>>1024778 (OP) The black guy's raping the white guy's wife when he is posting his selfie!


 No.1025170>>1025216

>>1024863

That's what AT&T did. Academics used to build their own operating systems and machines and didn't care about being "compatible" with someone else's shitty code. You might not know that Berkeley already had an OS, the Berkeley Timesharing System, which AT&T shills replaced with UNIX because they needed more free labor because UNIX is so unproductive. AT&T pioneered the same thing Apple and Google are doing today. All around the world, real research operating systems were being replaced by UNIX bullshit. Later on, this also took over the computer industry. C and POSIX were the Java (and now JavaScript) of the 80s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLS_(computer_system)

>NLS development moved to a Scientific Data Systems SDS 940 computer running the Berkeley Timesharing System in 1968.[1] It had an approximately 96 MB storage disk. It could support up to 16 workstations, which were composed of a raster-scan monitor, a three-button mouse, and a device known as a chord keyset. The input of typed text was sent from the keyboard to a specific subsystem that relayed the information along a bus to one of two display controllers and display generators. The inputted text then was sent to a 5-inch (127 mm) cathode ray tube (CRT), which was enclosed by a special cover, and a superimposed video image was then received by a professional-quality black-and-white TV camera. The TV camera information was then sent to the closed-circuit camera control and patch panel, and, finally, displayed on each workstation's video monitor.

https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~rsc/plan9.html

>This is not Plan 9 hacking per se, but it would be interesting to fix dot-dot in Unix. There might even be enough issues involved to make it a good senior or master's thesis. I don't use Unixes enough to do it myself, but if someone were interested I'd be glad to talk through problems and lend help.

That's the difference between academic computer science then and "academic" computer science now. Now, when someone "fixes dot-dot" that "fix" won't be used anywhere because it wouldn't be compatible, so someone else will get to "fix" it, just like that "safe C" bullshit which tries to give C a few of the error handling features of 60s BASIC. All these theses get wasted on bullshit that has no academic value or purpose besides fixing a corporation's mistakes from the 70s. Any paper involving C or UNIX fits into that category. C and UNIX waste billions of dollars and thousands of papers. It's not surprising people think computer science is worthless and a waste of time.

>>1024996

>This is actually exactly how original Unix worked.

>It was the time when software was well designed and professional programmers were well-paid rock stars.

If you wouldn't have mentioned UNIX, that would have been true, but UNIX was even worse back then than it is now. It took decades and thousands of programmers just to make it worse than a 60s OS and it still found its main use in single-user workstations because it sucked at timesharing and access control and everything else. Threads and memory-mapped files were bolted onto UNIX decades later and they are still worse than the original implementations in the 60s. Panic was only acceptable because PC users were used to DOS where any poorly written program could crash the system. The UNIX kernel was just a poorly written program.

	After describing how much we know about making
computer hardware which is fault-tolerant...

So, what other problems do we have?
<strategic pause>
UNIX.
<mumbles of agreement from the audience>

Unix is a standard brought to us by academia....

<goes on to point out the obvious contradictions
to implementing fault-tolerant systems on top of
Open Systems -- continually equating the concepts
of "Open Systems" with "UNIX" as the propoganda
would have us believe... finishes up with pleas
to academia for Open Standards which are
compatible with Fault Tolerance...>


Why do "we" get all the blame? AT&T spawned this virus.
Perhaps we are at fault for not rising to the occassion and
writting an anti-toxin which vaccinated machines to cure
them of the virus. Hmm, perhaps that was what RTM's worm
was really after (after all, it did only affect UNIX
machines...).


 No.1025216>>1025255 >>1025259

>>1025170

Is it possible at this point to just take computing and start over from the ground up?


 No.1025255>>1025259

>>1025216

templeos


 No.1025259

>>1025216

See >>1025255

>but muh networking

We need to start over with that too. Ditch HTTP/HTTPS, use a completely different protocol for a shadow internet on the same physical network. If anons control the OS and protocol, they can effectively shut out glowers.


 No.1025334

>>1024833

You're a complete retard.


 No.1025904

>>1024866

Make a communism license that openly states the software is for the people only, red hat and microsoft is not people so they banned.


 No.1026933

IT IS CALLED AUTISM.




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