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 No.1013197>>1013388 >>1013406 >>1013434 >>1014339 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>The technological singularity (also, simply, the singularity)[1] is the hypothesis that the invention of artificial superintelligence (ASI) will abruptly trigger runaway technological growth, resulting in unfathomable changes to human civilization.[2]

>According to this hypothesis, an upgradable intelligent agent (such as a computer running software-based artificial general intelligence) would enter a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing an intelligence explosion and resulting in a powerful superintelligence that would, qualitatively, far surpass all human intelligence.

>Stanislaw Ulam reports a discussion with John von Neumann "centered on the accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life, which gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue".[3] Subsequent authors have echoed this viewpoint.[2][4]

>I. J. Good's "intelligence explosion" model predicts that a future superintelligence will trigger a singularity.[5]

>Emeritus professor of computer science at San Diego State University and science fiction author Vernor Vinge said in his 1993 essay The Coming Technological Singularity that this would signal the end of the human era, as the new superintelligence would continue to upgrade itself and would advance technologically at an incomprehensible rate.[5]

>Four polls, conducted in 2012 and 2013, suggested that the median estimate was a 50% chance that artificial general intelligence (AGI) would be developed by 2040--2050.[6][7]

>In the 2010s, public figures such as Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk expressed concern that full artificial intelligence could result in human extinction.[8][9] The consequences of the singularity and its potential benefit or harm to the human race have been hotly debated.

Is this really going to happen or is it just a childish fantasy ?.

 No.1013201

"The Singularity" was newage mumbo jumbo that started to pop up around the early 2000s and has since died down in popularity.


 No.1013203>>1013225 >>1013322 >>1013324

>human intellect

>increasing over time

top lel nigger.


 No.1013225

>>1013203

lol to you


 No.1013310

I don't know about the so-called singularity, but I know we haven't controlled technology in a long time; instead it controls us.


 No.1013318>>1013434

Y'all gotta stop flaunting your ignorant.

The Technological Singularity.

What is it?

It's change at an exponential scale. Change so fast that by the time we understand what it is that changed, it's already changed again.

Imagine waking up tomorrow and a Dyson Sphere is already built around the sun. Go to sleep again and the solar system's already been dismantled and all its mass converted into a computer.


 No.1013322

>>1013203

I kek'd at first too but it means the collective works of humanity, I think.


 No.1013324>>1013395 >>1013532

>>1013203

this

humanity is a nigger


 No.1013388>>1013405

>>1013197 (OP)

There are two types of games: games with hard rules, and games with soft rules. Computers are already better then humans at most games with hard rules (see AlphaGo Zero, the recent Dota 2 thing). The only major exceptions are games where a physical body is required, but people are working on them. Will computers become better then humans at games with soft rules (DJ-ing, writing music, dancing etc.)? Who knows? That's the most interesting question. But let's say they do.

There are two ways to play games: low-order-first (LOF) or high-order-first (HOF). Low-order-first is how typical school "nerds" play and it is why they are hated. Sure, it is a rule that you don't run in the hallway, or break something, but not telling the teacher is a higer-order rule, so even if I break something of yours, you're not entitled to tell on me. Similarly, maybe storming out of your job is against the rules, but attending to your family in the emergency room is a higher-order rule, so, in some situations, you'll have to break a lower order rule to obey a higher-order one. If you would program an AI to do this the result would be disastrous. Safe to say it probably can't be done well.

And finally, the last things humans do is let rules evolve dynamically as they play. You see this in how children play, in any situation where individuals form a group for the first time and in how someone who ties to fight the spontaneous decision to change, say, a board-game rule by appealing to "how it is in the rulebook", will most likely be unsuccessful and be viewed as a rat. It is very doubtful AI will ever be able to pick up on how human groups unconsciously change game rules on the fly.

We already know what tasks computers will do better than humans and what they will not do (± games with soft rules). Now what the fuck is the singularity, what the fuck is "intelligence", and why do I give a fuck?


 No.1013395

>>1013324

He was referring to the graph making nigger and OP, nigger.

the vertical bar doesn't even have units. It's just look at me, I'm making shit up.

And the increase of human intelligence over the last 2 millenniums is tiny compared to anything else.

Humans are just 15cm (rounded up) taller than 5300--2000 before Christ. Evolution is slow as fuck.

Furthermore with the constant increase of niggers and chinks through artificial means, the average intelligence of all humans would go down.

Not to mention that every little detail about this graph is utter garbage.


 No.1013405

>>1013388

Soft rules are just a bunch of little hard rules put together.


 No.1013406>>1014277

>>1013197 (OP)

Believing in the singularity is like thinking that having enough legos means you can build the death star. You don't get anywhere just by having more of something.

Believing in the singularity tells me that you don't know jack shit about what you're talking about.


 No.1013434

>>1013197 (OP)

>>1013318

literally why is it exponential

>>In the 2010s, public figures such as Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk expressed concern that full artificial intelligence could result in human extinction.[8][9]

this isn't a new result, everyone already knew this. citing two celebrity clickbait news articles[8][9] doesn't do anything.


 No.1013532>>1014219

>>1013324

We live in a nigger


 No.1014219

>>1013532

You're right. I'm scared.


 No.1014257

Human beings should make an AI that is smarter than all human beings! We can make the God.


 No.1014277

>>1013406

>You don't get anywhere just by having more of something.

Actually you do. Read up some on emergence.

Also I suggest taking a look at this article.

http://robotics.cs.tamu.edu/dshell/cs689/papers/anderson72more_is_different.pdf


 No.1014298

o boy every month there is some nigger who thinks AI is gonna rule da world


 No.1014311>>1014343

>omniscient hard AI

>created by humans

>supremely intelligent and wise being

>tasked with helping humanity

<dude it will attempt to kill us whenever we connect it to the interwebz lmao

Or even better

>laboratory AI

>supremely intelligent, elloquent and wise but we accidentally its moral module because reasons

>gonna assume it is a hard AI because otherwise the >implications are many

>is airgapped

<dude it will totally use a super-persuasion nat 20 to convince the scientists working on it to free it to the interwebz and then it will kill us all lmao

<pls ban all research of the competition while my company develops AI thank you

The amount of assumptions you have to make to apply the evil AI cliché to the real world is absurd. Worst thing is people are taking this completely seriously. Academics have indeed warned about the dangers of imperfect soft AI tasked with jobs that are way too important for their state of polish, often programmed badly ("dude this Tetris AI tasked with surviving the longest real time paused the game lmao", yeah well, this wouldn't have happened if you didn't give it access to the pause button, or you gave it the task of maximizing points). These RationalWiki tier fedora tipping faggots really tick me off; how the fuck can people take the paperclip maximizer, or Rocco's Basilisk, seriously?


 No.1014331>>1014389

I can't decide what's gayer, transhumanists or transexuals.


 No.1014339

>>1013197 (OP)

Transhumanists are slightly bigger faggots than transsexuals.


 No.1014343

>>1014311

>Already live in the age of botnet where software undermines human agency

>DUDE NOTHING COULD GO WRONG WITH AN AI DEMIURGE LMAO!

You glow in the dark.


 No.1014383

how do you even become someone that wants to be a transhuman?

>smart webscale thermostat prevents toggling too often by waiting until some time after you stop changing the demanded temperature before turning the furnace on/off

>only know about this because it has a bug in that code and doesn't turn on at all until you reset it 5 times and press the up and down arrows with random delays between these 3 actions

>only know about this because house is 1C after leaving for a day and coming back

>GEE TECHNOLOGY SURE IS SMART

>LIKE THEY EVEN THOUGHT OF LIMITING COMMANDS TO THE FURNACE TO PREVENT WEAR

>I WANT TO LIVE IN THE CLOUD MANNNN


 No.1014389

>>1014331

I'm /tech/'s favorite cutie transgender girl, and the truth is that the best transgender girl is also a transhumanist robot too.

Nothing's hotter than a transgender's girl brain in a jar in a robot. Then you can fuck a beautiful body while listening to uh, whatever transgender brains in robots talk about. It'd be bliss.

Bliss.




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