/sw/ - Star Wars★

>>1221

witwer was/is one of us, only more handsome and less autistic in order to get a job there, or he's just able to hide his power level really well. he's a slight sellout since he voices maul in rebels (i guess it was nice for them to bring him back from clone wars) and was a stormtrooper in the two new films, must be under some kind of contract.

also, the force unleashed was g-canon since lucas had direct involvement in it lol.

>>1221

>was

is

I have mixed feelings about Witwier much like I do about Dave Filoni. He's a great voice actor for both Maul and Sheev but he also corroborates the dumb idea that the Sith cannot persist after death, which along with Filoni's perspective on Force ghosts is an obstacle to getting my favorite parts of the pre-movie chronology recognized.

>>1221

I wouldn't say they took it from him. It was an earlier draft surname for the character that would become Luke Skywalker and it seemed vogue in the past 5 or 6 years to use it as some kind of DEEPEST LORE spot bonus.

>>1234

Lucas blithely overwrote the plot points of TFU in his Clone Wars cartoon. He also had direct involvement with Shadows of the Empire but just disregarded it in future projects. George never gave much a fuck about jigsaw puzzle compatibility in the lore and delegated that responsibility to his pet Asian.

>>1235

yes.

>>1237

Lucas always struck me as being a very much in the moment kind of guy. He'd take designs from the EU he liked, but he'd disregard his own plans if he thought in that second something was cool. That's why Grievous suddenly gained a cough and why Anakin went from being a teen to nine years old in Phantom Menace.

He's a weird guy. He gets excited by new designs and ideas but he has an obsession with revisiting a 40 year old film to continually perfect it.

>>1237

>>1239

>they don't realize Star Wars deliberately has no canon

"As is not uncommon in myth, this account cannot be reconciled with the far more common stories"

Star Wars is mythology, it's not meant to fit together.

>>1221

>I always thought of the Force Unleashed as a separate canon from the EU but I'm actually starting to miss it these days. Witwer always seemed like he cared about the franchise.

Pardon me, I'm just going to go on a bit of a personal tangent here, but didn't Michael Kirkbride ( the one true auteur of >>>/tes/ ) have some role in writing The Force Unleashed, too?

>>1251

One more quick thing, completely unrelated - Michael Kirkbride did this: http://c0da.es/rebellion

>>1252

C0DA was shit, tbh

>>1244

You raise a good point, though nothing will stop turbo spergs from insulting the pedigree of any novelist who uses the wrong artillery loadout for a given class of Star Destroyer.

>>1314

>He popped a cranial vein when he saw Clone Wars staff give Prae Visla a cortosis weave vibroblade and pulled the "darksaber" out of his ass as a solution.

are you saying he liked it or not? because he was the reason that shit happened.

>>1324

Then why did he have the magnaguards use staves made of a metal that could block lightsabers?

>>1326

Did they ever show the metal length of the electrostaves blocking a lightsaber with the middle in anything? The tips produced an energy field, so I suppose that was good enough in the same way a darksaber is apparently not a lightsaber but similar enough to be allowed to clash with one's blade.

>>1329

now that i think about it, i'm not sure. luckily, we have jewtube for these kinds of things.

and yes, lightsabers do come into contact with the metal bits as far as i can tell (video isn't great quality). also, the electrified part of the staff is between the middle and the end, it doesn't go from the quarter part all the way to the end.

>>1330

I can't see very well myself and gave up trying to freeze frame it in full view. If it is hitting parts that aren't electrified, though, then I guess it's just hypocrisy or changing his mind like with wookie jedi.

>>1332

That was in an EU video game, though, so I don't think Lucas cared as much. Considering how Clone Wars overwrote Force Unleashed, I wouldn't doubt he was already thinking up retcons when the game was half done.

Non of those stories are part of the canon anymore, though, and Lucas isn't in charge of Star Wars' IP, so I guess the discussion is really moot. The Lucasfilm story group has already decided that people don't have to be attuned to the Force to use lightsabers, so I wouldn't blink at materials like these http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Lightsaber-resistant_materials coming back.

They've already decided that cortosis can conduct and dissipate plasma bolts fired from a blaster, so it wouldn't be a huge stretch of logic to make it repel or short out lightsabers.

>>1333

>The Lucasfilm story group has already decided that people don't have to be attuned to the Force to use lightsabers

They didn't make that up, there's an old comic of boba fett fighting vader with a lightsaber after years of training.

>>1349

>proper training

BS. Lightsabers are just too dangerous to someone without precog and force enhanced reflexes use more than a can/tauntaun opener, even with "training". Boba Fett using a lightsaber was a "Tales" content, not canon even back them. How a bounty hunter would have time to a weapon that jedi themselves expent years to use it properly?

Grievous was the only exception due having a fucking computer brain capable of perfoming the math to not cut his head off.

>>1350

>>1349

grievous was also trained by count dooku.

also, the force is present in everyone and everything, is it not? boba fett may not have been able to lift a x-wing out of the swamp, but it's not a stretch to say that he could spend years learning an easier style.

>>1355

The Force is all around and suffuses all things, but manipulation of it into tangible, empirical forms is only possible with the intercession of midichlorians (until midichlorians are softly retconned to appease meme hatred of all things prequel trilogy).

>>1361

wrong, midichlorians were just a measurement of one's natural connection to the force. in the same way that goku was born with a power level of like 30, while broly was born with a power level of 10,000. yet we all know goku trained hard and had a power level that surpassed broly, who simply had natural talent.

>>1365

Okay, show me a case where a normie just worked super hard and developed any authentic leverage over the Force.

>>1367

not sure if it counts, but the exile.

>>1367

Luke Skywalker

Seemingly normal farmboy who had not yet developed any force sensitive powers or connection gets them awoken by Obi Wan.

>>1370

Well, it's been awhile since I've played KotOR II, but I believe that what was special about her was that she learned to manipulate the Force externally after being severed from it somehow. It's what made Kreia obsess over her because it meant that she could control the Force without being influenced in kind by its will or something like that. I don't think it changed the quantity of her power before Malachor.

>>1371

But he was the child of a person fathered by Force itself, whose midichlorians were off the charts. There's no reason to believe his abilities aren't a direct result of that.

>>1374

Exile still had to rebuild her abilities, same as revan in kotor 1. Yeah they put that in for the sake of gameplay, but it still counts.

Also, the dude who posted luke isn't wrong, he had no idea of the force before obi-wan, and even with training still got his ass handed to him.