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fb4b1c (2)  No.337359>>337365 >>337412 >>337507 >>337527 >>338421 >>365295 >>365643 >>365688 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

What's the difference between good smut and bad smut? What is bad smut? What is good smut? What makes a story good to fap to, and what makes a bad rap story? These are the questions we must answer.

b00b00 (1)  No.337362>>337365 >>337446

Grammar (obvious), consistency (the girl was on top and is now suddenly being taken doggystyle), and while I'm not sure what to label it as, I prefer stories where the girls don't rape first, ask names later. Or at least ones where things don't immediately jump to "and then we were husband and wife." At least let them eat dinner first.


4fd237 (5)  No.337365>>337369

>>337359 (OP)

A good smut is usually a short but sensation driving, usually like heat of the moment, passion between the two or more characters. usually smut is something that should be short and never overly long, and if your gonna write smut you might as well have the build up and the aftermath. and if your gonna describe a man being rape by a tail-pussy

you gotta describe the motions and sensations, same with any other organ.

>>337362

Basics however you should always start with your grammar, consistency/transitions and remember the old saying of show don't tell. also last lesson you should always remember is to know your audience for who you make your story to or for. even if its designed for your self and if you want a long smut story, usually the best idea for it is to break it up into multiple segments.


350a5e (1)  No.337369

>>337365

In my take, having a longer story is alright if the smut's only one part of it. If you have something like Story>Smut>Story sorta deal then you can afford to do longer stories. But then again, at that point it could be seen as less so a smut story than a story with smut in it.


4c9e0c (3)  No.337378>>337379

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Correct proportions, atmosphere/correct lighting if a background/setting is present, good lines, consistent levels of detail and good highlighting/shading are what makes good smut, and art in general


4c9e0c (3)  No.337379>>337434

>>337378

On second thought, weighting certain lines for a shadowed effect or to separate overlapping parts of the subject, as well as leading lines and contrasting colours to draw attention to a certain part of the subject (pic 1 and 2). As for storytelling in art, the piece should be composed in a way that doesn't make the setting only noticeable after more than a few seconds, and is "important" enough to provide a degree of immersion into the scene while still leaving out blanks as to be subjective and open to the viewer's interpretation (pic 1, 2, 3 and 5). Viewers in this day and age will favour a piece more if it is relatable, and they can see themselves as "being" there, this can be done with POV from angles you yourself would view the scene from (A bad example is pic 4). While more of the old can be good, new angles, subjects and settings always excite the audience and make them more likely to stay and appreciate it for a while rather than glancing and saving it to their wankbank.

>t. art student


baf043 (1)  No.337384

Nancy Friday's collections of female sex fantasies (My Secret Garden, Forbidden Flowers, Beyond My Control) are really good smut, with a bit of staring into the abyss on the side.


8e3ff4 (1)  No.337412>>337445

>>337359 (OP)

<good smut

>loving sex

<bad smut

>NTR and cuckshit


077bf1 (1)  No.337414>>337434

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As far as art is concerned I think it mostly depends on the mood of the viewer. Are you looking for something wholesome, or something dirty that you’d want your monster waifu to do to/for you?


4fd237 (5)  No.337434>>337439 >>337446 >>338424

>>337414

>always have to remind my self that gazers are huge fucking cock tease, and there will be no penetration pictures of gazers

>EVER

>>337379

I thought this thread was mainly gonna be a writefag advice thread but it being a artfag critique thread wouldn't be bad either.


d9d7ca (2)  No.337439>>337447 >>338424

>>337434

>think you're bullshitting

>try searching boorus for any gazer penetration

Wow, you might actually be right. I guess that's just gazerfag's tastes.


37062a (2)  No.337445

>>337412

NTR and cuckshit is bad on its own, usually its just one guy thats extremely insecure and cuckshit is always just painful and is either hatred of the character or it just results in LOL FUCK HUMAN, WE SUCK AM I RITE GUYS XD. Overall if you read most ntr shit, its mainly a ton of self loathing and crying.


1d78bc (1)  No.337446>>338424 >>338582

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>>337434

Odd considering the stupid amount of attention they get. Someone might have to solve this… I’ll consider throwing it on the pile.

Writefag smut I feel needs to be more descriptive to be good, like what are the characters feeling both physically and emotionally for each other. What are they thinking or saying or are they just grunting and moaning? The bad kind is usually written poorly, bad dialogue, bad descriptions, sometimes it ends too short like >>337362 pointed out with the cliche “and now we’re married.” I’m guilty of this as well


41578d (1)  No.337447>>338424 >>338582

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>>337439

on a similar note, try and figure out what her ears look like. as far as I know there's only a single piece that actually includes that detail


8f5461 (7)  No.337467>>337487 >>337489 >>338283 >>338301 >>338328 >>338421 >>338505

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Garden variety smut won't do much for me nowadays. That's with monstergirls included or not. I need some kind of fetish sprinkled in for me to have some passing interest. The preferred overarching fetish I like to see would be domination but that's a catch-all for lots of sexual encounters so that would be more of a theme to the encounter rather than a specific fetish. Delving into more specific fetishism I'd probably be into stuff this board would consider too degenerate to post so I'll stick to the ones that should be okay to discuss.

>drain- energy drain, life drain, milking, mind wiping, hypnotization (free will drain)

>forbidden love- incest, age gap, physicality gap, class/social status gap

>BDSM- all manner of pain infliction, orgasm denial, spanking, pegging and much more

>+more stuff that I'm too ashamed to admit to openly even as an anon.

This is approaching things from a purely smut centric angle and not any kind of critical thinking level. As much as I enjoy smut that features my fetishism I know if I were going into other non-smut centric media I could still enjoy the fetishism but I'd be more critical of how it was portrayed. I would view it through the lens of "does the lewd act in this story make sense or is this just the writer felating their own fetishism?" One might argue that there's no purely objective art piece from the creator or the viewer and that the artist will always inject things subconsciously into their work they're not aware of just as much as the person viewing it may project their own thoughts or feelings onto a work.

That's how you get Fat dykess who see a character like Bayonetta and claim.

>"this is sexist and damaging to women."

and then you get other women who will see her as empowering and in some cases a wish-fulfillment i.e. The power fantasy for them (vicariously through the character in the game) beating up all manner of monsters. Typically women won't chase after such a fantasy but this just an example.

>what is good smut?

Like asking "what is the highest quality fast food?" Regardless of how you rank it, you're still eating fast food.

>what is bad smut?

Obviously, something you can't fap to or don't otherwise enjoy.

>What makes a story good to fap to, and what makes a bad rap story?

Assuming we're no longer in the realm of smut you shouldn't be fapping to a story although there's nothing to stop you from doing so. If you're saying it's a story in a smut centric piece I would argue there's little reason to focus hard on the story if you're main objective is to get your rocks off.

If it's a good story you should be involved with it. You'll care about the characters and what happens to them. If it's a smut story you shouldn't really care about the characters so much as getting your aforementioned rocks off.

Then there's the third rail which is a story that focuses on lewd things- think 50 shades of gray. There's lots of /monster/ content that tries to ride this rail and either ends up being a mixed up mess of smut or a mediocre story with lewd bits shoehorned in. I see this in lots of greentext content but greentext is probably a better medium for getting your feet wet anyway. I need to read more stories from the writefag thread. Most of the Anons in the writefag thread are trying to put together compelling narratives and to their credit I think we have some properly creative content with all kinds of settings and characters. Naturally, there will be some lewd content sprinkled in pretty much all of them. Make sure to stop by and read one or two stories a month and try to leave your thoughts for the author. >>317706 Some of them pretty cringe but when you're done you can talk shit about them and tell them what they can do to improve. You might actually enjoy reading a few of the stories (mabye).

An issue arises because a proper story takes time to flesh out and get the reader caring about characters. When I see a story with a sex scene right at the opening few pages it usually feels it was put there to keep me interested by grabbing hold of my dick rather than my getting me involved with whatever story is in the background. Then there's the issue of MGE and Monmuso media being very sexually oriented worlds. This isn't inherently a bad thing but if you're trying to enjoy a good story it's hard to ignore everyone flinging their assorted sexual juices everywhere.


37062a (2)  No.337487>>337501

>>337467

Im pretty sure even people with shit tastes can understand quality, thats kinda like saying writing is subjective and i can tell you that the fags on /chaos/ could show you a quality degenerate smut, and trash degenerate smut. If anything you're either pretenious as hell or talking out of your ass. There is quality writefags (Ace, Bromont, Knightfag) and theres trash writefags (bobanon).


a984a4 (1)  No.337489>>337501

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>>337467

>men getting things shoved up their ass

>>>/chaos/ is that way

Go be gay over there


d65600 (3)  No.337491

No shitty fetishes. No gangbang or MMF. If those are not there and there is effort on the part of the creator, it ought to be good or at least satisfactory.


8f5461 (7)  No.337501>>337512

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>>337487

>i can tell you that the fags on /chaos/ could show you a quality degenerate smut, and trash degenerate smut.

I didn't say smut couldn't have quality. There's definitely a difference between 5guys and burgerking. Regardless of where I'm eating from I know that I'm indulging in sweet and salty junk food that is designed to appeal to my more base desires.

>There is quality writefags (Ace, Bromont, Knightfag) and theres trash writefags (bobanon).

I would have to see the writing in question to give you my respective take. Care to give me some of your selections?

>>337489

Being gay would be easy, I'm some kind of next level degenerate they haven't classified yet.


7b60ca (1)  No.337502

Can't stand anything where the male is not the point of view. A blank anon sort of character makes it more bearable, but really only if it's a barely detailed stick figure and the focus is on the girl.


c2c0b9 (1)  No.337507>>337514

>>337359 (OP)

>smut

>good

Pick one and only one


4fd237 (5)  No.337512>>337520 >>337544

>>337501

https://8ch.net/monster/res/330812.html

https://8ch.net/monster/res/328423.html

http://touchfluffytail.org/?story=laska-and-me-27

It really doesn't help when your reasoning of quality is just going

>its like fast food

>What makes a story good to fap to, and what makes a bad rap story?

>Assuming we're no longer in the realm of smut you shouldn't be fapping to a story although there's nothing to stop you from doing so. If you're saying it's a story in a smut centric piece I would argue there's little reason to focus hard on the story if you're main objective is to get your rocks off.

and also your dialogue of it depending on tastes is really bad cause you're making it sound like you can just appeal to certain fetishes and not create something of absolute shit quality. I will say you're right about one thing, fetish is entirely subjective but the same cannot be said for quality.


1cee03 (1)  No.337514

>>337507

The fuck are you doing here, nigger?


8f5461 (7)  No.337520

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>>337512

I did not argue you could just appeal to certain fetishes and get a good story. That will help a story appeal to people who like that fetish but it won't automatically make shit writing good anymore than it would make good writing shit.

Maybe its because I don't really consider writing alone fap material (I prefer doujins) but I read stories for entertainment or education. Writing is a part of VNs and doujins but there's always a visual aid along with the words. The only deviation from this would be my time playing CoC but the only reason I could get involved as much as I did with that was the agency I had in the story.

I did notice two of the links you posted were CYOA so that may be part of the puzzle I'm missing. The only CYOA I've messed with is the lichquest since I find that more entertaining than fap worthy. It has lots of low brow humor and meme jokes which makes it a more casual affair I think. I'm running a CYOA about a robo-waifu myself and I'm basically playing it in a similar style to lichquest. Where his jokes are more fantasy based mine tend to lampshade cyberpunk tropes and poke fun various robo-waifu memes. Even if I were to get to a part in my story where I'd delve into lewd and conceivable fap tier material I can't imagine anyone fapping to such a story. Anyone can do whatever they want of course so if someone wants to fap to my story or lichquest I'm not going to tell them not to. I just wouldn't get off to it myself.


27fc4e (1)  No.337527>>337529

>>337359 (OP)

honestly OP, one of the best ways to make "good smut" is to understand your target audience and what you're trying to appeal to, structuring the smut around that will get you a lot more success.

Also gazers are complete shit :^)


d8fe10 (1)  No.337529

>>337527

100% true.

Gazers just make me angry to look at these days


4c9e0c (3)  No.337544>>337551 >>337564

>>337512

>laska and me

>trash


c497d2 (1)  No.337551

>>337544

Ah, I see you were never exposed to the original ending. To this day I can't finish that story.


4fd237 (5)  No.337564>>338176 >>338184

>>337544

You do know that the character laska has been made into a huge sperg and is pretty much the diary of a cummiemancer and whore involving daddy issues,incest, child services being dumb as fuck and also whoring out. theres also the case of bobanon switching the characters sexuality to try and lighten the mood of his story while constantly trying to tell the audience that its ok. there was also a case of him freaking his shit when someone actually designed an ending where laska wasn't being diddled by her daddy and wasn't gonna grow up into a whore because child services actually did their job. but hey reality is stranger then fiction


3a60d3 (1)  No.338176>>338184 >>338186 >>338668

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>>337564

Do you have the original ending? Did someone else write a Laska story instead of bobanon, because I do not remember her acting like a sperg until she met the Anubis. At what chapter did this deviate from the original ending? I can only remember one yandere story of Laska and and one story involving an affair with a teacher.


d3f86b (2)  No.338184

>>338176

>>337564

Did bobanon really start doing cuck shit or make his character become a prostitute? That is even worse than the original ending bullshit.


d3f86b (2)  No.338186

>>338176

I don't have the original ending, but what ended up happening is that the dad died and the anubis left laska all alone with some guy she is dating. Before she met the guy, she also freaked out and raped someone or something like that.


d65600 (3)  No.338283>>338400

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>>337467

There's finger up the butt during a blowjob, and then there's this fucking shit. Stop this.


40a31c (1)  No.338301

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1f1a0d (1)  No.338328>>338400

>Good Art and Animation

well shaded, shows proper deforming of the body, proper liquid physics, and emotion in the faces. with animation, movements should look natural at least, and at best dynamic.

>Good Writing

shows emotion in the characters' actions, properly describes the physical sensations, and the mindsets they are going through during the act.

>Shit that just simply pisses me off

Profanity in the narration. It seems to me that one of the biggest aspects of pump & dump smut is profane narration. I personally would rather have the narration be descriptive and clean. The characters on the other hand can be as profane as the author wants them to be.

Fetish cross-contamination. All I want is my specific fetish, no more, no less. no, I don't want this thing you're always shoving in my face, fuck off, I came for -in both definitions of the word- my specific fetish!

Game over sex scenes. Porn is a reward, you should reward success, not failure- the only exception would be a hopeless-boss-fight scenario but that technically is not a game over.

>>337467

anon maybe you should work out more.


8f5461 (7)  No.338400>>338401 >>338406

>>338328

I haven't been able to exercise lately, I need to though.

What I find amusing about these fellows >>338283 >>338301 is they're all hung up on the anal play when that doesn't really do anything for me. I'm more about the drain fetishism but the nuance of such erotica is lost on them I think. I realize it's too late for me not to sound like I'm high on my own farts but I'm willing to bet their tastes are completely pleb tier.

I'm curious what they'd think of these works

https://exhentai.org/g/1114071/c25ae2cbdd/

https://exhentai.org/g/1181791/5af39d1610/


d65600 (3)  No.338401>>338406

>>338400

If I'm gonna get soul drained, or killed, I'd rather it be done in a not gay manner.


4060b3 (1)  No.338406>>338436

>>338400

Got to agree with >>338401 here; for someone who’s trying to rank themselves by taste in smut you’re awful circumspect about the fact that most of it coincidentally involves something going up your arse. I used a semicolon in the previous sentence so you know my opinion is better than that of, shall we say, the common anon.


204325 (2)  No.338421>>338436

>>337467

I understand your stance, and agree on some points, however, I want to clarify an aspect I find important.

As you wrote: reading is very much like eating, sometimes you crave a good fulfilling meal, sometimes, you’re just snackish and will be very satisfied with junk food. And there is nothing wrong with that. We don’t always have time to sit down and enjoy a 5-course meal with whiskey and cigar. It’s a problem of different needs, different audiences and different circumstances.

That said: I consider myself a very run-of-the-mill writefag, and if “smut” is fast-food, then erotica is a finely crafted burger with 100% home-made ingredients, it takes time and effort to make and enjoy, but it fills a very similar kind of emptiness in your stomach, you got the burger you wanted, it just took a lot longer and it’s more expensive, but damn was it a good burger, or at least, they really hope you enjoyed, because those who do this put a lot of effort in the stuff they worked on.

After that, I agree with most of what you said: you have your meal, you can be happy that the chef did put a sauce/fetish you like, or not because you think this peculiar condiment/kink is fucking trash and everyone who put this in their dish/art deserves to be burned at the stake;

Which is different from having a five-stars chef compared to your great aunt who has no idea how she got in the kitchen and just dumped on your plate an unidentified amalgam of ingredients stewing together that she saw on that TV-show with Gordon Ramsay without realizing that sugar and salt are not the same thing.

>>337359 (OP)

Smut for the sake of smut, should be simple and visceral, it’s about primal needs and should feel just as raw.

Erotica should be complex, intense, but slow, it’s not about needs, it’s about fulfilment, a good writer will know when the build-up has reached its peak and bring release to their character and readers.

TLDR: Art is really nice, keep doing what you do.


d3e064 (2)  No.338424>>338428

>>337434

>>337439

>>337446

I know some JPs did make gazer penetration, but you have to search in the pixivs to find it.

>>337447

That's the only pic with her ears exposed, but I admit I expected more rounded human ears though.


d3e064 (2)  No.338428

>>338424

Also, another thing, if anyone's experience with animation with blender, or know how to convert the model into SFM, there was a 3D gazer model for use if you want to use it for animation.


8f5461 (7)  No.338436>>338440 >>338478

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>>338406

>most of it

I would need some citation for that one.

Even if that were the case though and every other work I viewed had some form of anal play with the MC giving or receiving some manner buttsecks I'm comfortable enough with my masculinity to not question my own sexuality based on some arbitrary socials mores of our current society that dictate "DATS GAY" because something happened involving butts.

Horses for courses and all that. I jerk it to so many different things I don't have time to get hung up on what specific fetish means what for my mental state. I just accept that I'm some form of degenerate and move on.

For the sake of trolling though, I'd say there's definitely some homosexual undertones when it comes to Manticores and "tail pussies" which don't do anything for me. For me, I see a large phallic tentacle getting urethral sounding done to it. That's pretty gay dawg. Jus' saying. I've never tried urethral sounding though so maybe I'm the one being judgemental.

>>338421

Right, as I mentioned above there's a difference between burger king and 5 guys. Much the same way you argue a homemade burger has a quality all its own that would make a commercially produced burger ashamed to be between buns.

What works have you composed?


204325 (2)  No.338440

>>338436

Sadly, nothing of interest for this board as of now, aside from a couple short greentexts.

I used to be a resident writefag in a general back on halfchan's /mlp/ of all things. But the slow agony of my autistic home left me a bit demoralized.


0bf83e (5)  No.338478>>338479

>>338436

>there's definitely some homosexual undertones when it comes to Manticores and "tail pussies"

The thought never occurred to me. But I guess that…kind of makes sense. They do kind of look like giant prehensile penises. But the fact that this never dawned on me before reading your post doesn't give it much credence.


26bca9 (1)  No.338479>>338482 >>338484 >>338497

>>338478

>They do kind of look like giant prehensile penises

Except for the fact that they're covered in sharp bone barbs. It probably didn't dawn on you because you saw it for what it actually was and not what some faggot implied it to be like. The tail is modeled after a stinger, because that's what it used to be.

Don't humor a faggot's faggy interpretation of non-faggy things, it just ends up making everything needlessly gay.


0bf83e (5)  No.338482>>338492

>>338479

I agree. And I don't really buy into that idea. That's why I said the bit about his idea not having much credence for me. I've been reading this board for more than a years, if not years at this point. And that thought never entered my mind. None of the monstergirls strike me as gay, except Alps. They're pretty gay.


8f5461 (7)  No.338484>>338488 >>338489

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>>338479

>faggot faggot faggy faggy gay

Touched a nerve there. I don't care if you have a sounding fetish bro. Either way, it's probably okay since it's a feminine penis.

(shitposting derailing, go be homo back on tumblr.)

0bf83e (5)  No.338488>>338489

>>338484

Not everyone is a literal faggot, anon. We don't all see penises everywhere we look. I bet you're the type who unironically says traps aren't gay. Actually, not that I think about it, /monster/ is one of the least gay boards on the whole site.


0bf83e (5)  No.338489>>338492

>>338488

>>338484

I've derailed this thread enough. I won't be replying to anymore gay discussions. Sorry anon.


8f5461 (7)  No.338492>>338494 >>338499

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>>338489

Sokie, I know you wouldn't give me (you)'s if you didn't like me.

>>338482

I'm going to catch shit for this but…what is an Alp and why do I keep seeing posts about them?


13e817 (1)  No.338494

>>338492

lurk moar


f6c27f (2)  No.338497

>>338479

gays do the jewish thing and try to deconstruct things to fit their narratives, its essentially a biological form of contrarianism.

Homosexuality is not natural, theres nothing that makes these walking environmental disasters breed. The surefire way to make new gays is to abuse children. The sooner people understand this the sooner we get rid of terminal cancer affecting imageboards.


0bf83e (5)  No.338499>>358292

>>338492

They're men who were converted into Monstergirls, that more or less still have the hearts and minds of men, and have boyish looks. In essence, they are super fucking gay.

http://mgewiki.com/w/Alp


df0f96 (1)  No.338505

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3296ea (1)  No.338582>>338590 >>338699

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>>337446

>>337447

I HAVE FOUND IT, IT EXISTS!


3c0ad4 (1)  No.338590


4fd237 (5)  No.338668>>338669

>>338176

By the way to clarify further on bobanons shit writing, He also wrote truckercore(Cuckercore) which the story ends in a futa threesome with the manticores girlfriend, the manticore and the main-character taking it up the ass. which resulted in the futa being pregnant, the manticore with the futa-shits baby, and the main character that has taken the manticores futa-shit girls load.


f6c27f (2)  No.338669>>338688

>>338668

https://pastebin.com/DZWeBuRZ

This shitpost drove him away from 4/jp/.


fb4b1c (2)  No.338688

>>338669

Wow how r00d


d9d7ca (2)  No.338699>>343289

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>>338582

Oh hey, even more of it exists.


119c66 (1)  No.343289

>>338699

There's a few more here and there but it can be a little difficult to get a penetration image that can also be made sfw. Suggestions welcome.

Might be a few more soon.


ff8189 (2)  No.358247>>358259 >>365295 >>365299 >>365694

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I've done a metric shit ton of smut on commission in my time, I could probably throw in my two cents on the matter.

>Whats the difference between good smut and bad smut?

Detail, mostly. Smut is usually in the first person, but even in the third person you need to remember to describe things. The absolute weakest kind of smut is basically just "He bent her over and fucked her in the ass." or something to that extent.

Sight, sound, smell, touch, you need to be able to describe those things, especially, ESPECIALLY with monster girls. When you're writing, it can be easy to forget that you're writing about a character that isn't even really human, and just kind of sort of looks like one. They have extra appendages like a manticore's tail or a Arachne's…Entire lower half.

Depending on what you're writing, some of them don't even have hands, like certain harpies.

It may make you sound like a furfag, but describing the feel of fur, scale, or feather is also a must. A cheshire, for example, doesn't have human hands, and instead has almost cat-like paws.

Beast like monsters usually have very articulate paws, maybe describe them with longer fingers or something to that extent. There are also pads on the palm and sole of the feet as well. Details like that.

ALSO SKIN, DON'T FORGET SKIN, SKIN IS VERY IMPORTANT. Girl skin is soft, monster girl skin usually has exotic qualities. Magical qualities and things like that.

I also noticed that smut changes between male and female readers. Women tend to just like the sex part of the stories, men I've written for are usually looking for something more intimate. I've written stories that were 30 pages in length and maybe five or eight of those pages were dedicated to the actual smut part. While on the other side of the spectrum the story was usually "self insert girl gets railed."

Don't ask me about gay shit, though. I have no experience with that.


ee2a60 (1)  No.358259>>365299

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>>358247

> that image.

The NOT ROMANS killed japs and destroyed a japanese city prior before entering the romans world. The Rokangs took back some japanese and sent them to mines and sold them into prostitution.


11a7ad (1)  No.358292

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>>338499

Sage for off topic

Alps don't retain boyish looks at all, the pic on the mge wiki is only in the early stages of monsterization, here's another piece of official art that shows the end result of Alping. It's just a normal succubus at that point.


d80add (1)  No.365295>>365697

>>358247

>Detail, mostly.

I disagree. That is the easy way of getting someone to tell you your shit's good, but there are plenty other alternatives.

>>337359 (OP)

I think the best way to hinder your writing, is to see it as "just this" or "just that". When you write, you're trying to invoke some sort of emotional response in the reader (this is true for all media, fiction or not, entertaining or educational), and that's what you should keep in mind first and foremost. Plots have focus, and good stories have context. A book whose purpose is to depict war, will spend maybe 10% of it describing war itself, and 90% of it setting the emotional and contextual ground for you to feel those 10% in a meaningful way, and I think good writing whose main purpose is to arouse the reader should have exactly the same philosophy (sex is nothing but action, after all.)

The strongest of emotions come from investment, and being a good storyteller is building investment well; this is why most people feel more aroused playing through even something simple like Corruption of Champions, than they feel when looking at a sexy picture, even if the latter always calls out louder due to requiring less effort to consume.

Of course, all I'm talking about here pertains to telling a good story, but if you just want to write two people humping each other (not that there is anything wrong with that, mind you), that's not storytelling, and you might as well just be discussing grammar and writing from a technical standpoint.


28c64f (1)  No.365299>>365697

>>358247

Gate is a pile of wasted potential but that image doesn't sound impartial. Initial contact beyond the Gate was made when Japanese Expeditionary Force met Imperial Army defending the gate. Empire loses men not only to superior firepower, but desertions as troops realize the hopeless situation. Emperor sees that he is in a terrible situation with potential to collapse the entire realm. He tries (and kind of succeeds) in dealing with this by calling all the armies (of vassals and/or client states) who would be best positioned to take advantage of this and throws them at the Japanese as well.

After this, engagements between Japanese and proper Imperial troops don't happen too much until finale of the anime. Battle at the city of Italia whatever (that has decent Ride of Valkyries scene) has Japanese fight aforementioned deserters that have formed opportunistic brigands.

Also, like >>358259 said, Japanese weren't just invading shit, they were retaliating after an attack that left hundreds(?) of civilians dead to make sure it won't happen again.

Not sure why you posted the image, other than possibility of making non-obvious but effective "devil is in details" -argument.


2d7104 (1)  No.365310>>365336

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solo nudes with good anatomy and poses > any kind of smut

go too far down this rabbit hole and you end up admiring classic art instead of fapping to lewds


84b25b (1)  No.365336

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>>365310

>spoiler


ca624a (1)  No.365643

>>337359 (OP)

difference mostly depends on whether the girl goes for the guy's prostate.


e29f57 (1)  No.365688

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>>337359 (OP)

It's simple if it has Cheshire it's automatically good.


8db668 (1)  No.365694>>365697

>>358247

Funny how Rome doesn't exist anymore.


ff8189 (2)  No.365697

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>>365694

>>365299

>>365295

I pick my pictures at random, damn.




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