[–]▶ 567d73 (4) No.290733>>290735 >>290761 >>290776 >>291123 >>291583 >>291669 >>297718 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
Double happening:
Paradox part 2 is coming out June 23rd.
http://b.dlsite.net/RG07939/archives/51790933.html
>Oh yeah, and some guy named Rogue has been helping on the translation lately too
https://dargoth.com/june-23rd-paradoxs-next-chapter
▶ 75b7d1 (1) No.290735>>290776 >>298137
>>290733 (OP)
Rogue is back? Nice. This means we'll be getting the goodness pretty fast.
Rogue did MGQ1,2,3 so with him helping out Daragoth the third house will rise again and the outlander will be driven from Vvardenfell.
▶ 567d73 (4) No.290738>>290746 >>290823
Yup. With two of them (and a few other people helping Dargoth with editing and stuff) hopefully it won't take 2+ years for part 2 to be translated. It seems like Rogue worked a lot faster on the original trilogy than Dargoth works on Paradox but the size of the game is much bigger now. And Paradox part 2 is even bigger than 1.
▶ 83ffa4 (4) No.290746>>290749
>>290738
Why is the kitsune with the mask wearing granny panties?
▶ f64fe3 (1) No.290749>>290753
>>290746
I get the impression that her pelt covers her pelvis and the little ribbon is on the hemline of her shirt.
▶ 83ffa4 (4) No.290753>>290877 >>298994
>>290749
ohhhhhh, I think I get it now.
▶ 7e7965 (1) No.290761>>290768
>>290733 (OP)
Wait, what? Didn't rogue said he was quitting translations forever in his last post?
▶ 567d73 (4) No.290768
>>290761
Kind of. I won't complain if he changed his mind though.
▶ 957743 (20) No.290776>>290870 >>297746 >>298137
>>290733 (OP)
A fair few muscle girls this time. Looks good. Amusing that the artists refuse to share notes on what Luka looks like. Muscle girls get muscle Luka, I guess.
>>290735
Sixth. Dargoth was head of the sixth house.
▶ a2b768 (1) No.290823
>>290738
I bet the brown kitsune is a chuuni.
▶ 567d73 (4) No.290870>>290879
>>290776
>spoiler
Depending on the artist Luka might look like he's 8, a teenager or 20-something. Usually they only paint his hair colour and clothes if he's wearing any the same.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.290877
>>290753
It looks to me like her belly does not have fur on it. The edge is just jagged.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.290879
>>290870
I consider Jingai Modokis Luka to be his canon appearance.
▶ e88cac (3) No.290883>>291123
▶ d97dba (1) No.291123>>291133 >>291153
>>290883
>>290733 (OP)
Have they fully translated 1st game?
▶ 957743 (20) No.291133>>291141
▶ bd8f88 (1) No.291141>>291143 >>291153
>>291133
How much is translated?
▶ 957743 (20) No.291143>>291145 >>291153
>>291141
Main quest, and most of the side quest-ish stuff. The interactions in the castle are spotty at best, completely untranslated at worst. It is best to assume all new H-scenes are untranslated because of how few are. Most comments from the characters as a reaction to NPCs or story events are translated.
I'm not sure of the exact percent, but if you are just planning on playing through for the story, its perfectly playable with no knowledge of Japanese.
▶ 857501 (1) No.291145>>291150
>>291143
Cool, I will check it out. I thought it was still untranslated
>new scenes
They still add new scenes? Isn't that game like 2 yo old already?
▶ 957743 (20) No.291150>>291154
>>291145
New girls in Paradox, as opposed to the girls that were lifted from MGQ proper.
▶ 3dc422 (4) No.291153
>>291123
>>291141
>>291143
Last patch is technically just over half of the raw text but according to Dargoth about 3/4 actual of work was done. The story and gameplay are pretty much all done, but h-scenes and some side stuff (monster book lore, casinos, most battle talk, castle interactions with later game companions) are still work in progress.
That was… in February, I think? Dunno how much work they've done since then but now with Rouge on board it shouldn't be long for a full or close-to-full patch for part 1.
▶ 0ec4af (2) No.291154>>291163
>>291150
Oh, you mean new paradox grills that were in the game from the start?
Will Promenstein ever get a proper fuck scene? As I remember in paradox she has some lame handjob only
▶ 3dc422 (4) No.291163>>291169 >>291177 >>295000
>>291154
>Will Promenstein ever get a proper fuck scene?
Who knows. I think new scenes for Alice and Ilias are a given, maybe there will be some for secondary story characters like Promenstein too. She's a Setouchi character and he draws fast.
▶ 0ec4af (2) No.291169>>291175
>>291163
Who is artist for Alice and Illias nowadays?
▶ 3dc422 (4) No.291175>>291631
>>291169
Alice is drawn by KC and Ilias by frfr but they didn't make anything new for them in paradox so far and probably won't until part 3. Loli Alice is drawn by Jingai Modoki and loli Ilias by あかざわRED who I think didn't do anything else in the series.
▶ 957743 (20) No.291177>>291178
>>291163
Alice's scenes are the ones from MGQ, iirc. So I doubt we will see a new one for her. Illias might since she is actually getting character growth, but at the same time the H-scenes are kind of removed from any of that.
▶ 3dc422 (4) No.291178>>291179
>>291177
In Paradox 1 she has one scene recycled from the original and one new one. I'd be really surprised if she didn't get at least 1 new scene per part in Paradox. Same with Ilias.
▶ 957743 (20) No.291179
>>291178
Huh, I could have sworn it was in the original. I probably should replay MGQ one of these days. I do hope we have the option to use the broken versions of Alice and Illias with all the bonuses that people accrue over the play through. The bonuses aren't terribly great, but free magic that is balanced around being high cost, high damage is nice.
▶ dd8b43 (1) No.291583>>291636
>>290733 (OP)
Actually I'm excited for this one. Unlike the first game the enemies look more human than monster. In Paradox 1 every girl look on everage 60% monster which is too much.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.291631>>291636 >>291676 >>296872
>>291175
Adult Alice probably has the most art of any character.
I'm mostly hoping that well be able to upgrade the tiny bandits to their adult forms and get new scenes with them.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.291636>>291687
>>291583
It's MGQ, it's always been more on the monstrous side, part 2 will probably be the same overall.
>>291631
>Adult Alice probably has the most art of any character.
She's the second main character after Luka and Luka as the game protagonist doesn't need that much art. It's not really the same in Paradox anymore with the Alice/Ilias choice and a 8-character party, she's just one of the main characters but we'll see how they solve that. I guess technically Luka has the most art because he's in all the h-scenes
▶ 0efc5e (2) No.291669
>>290733 (OP)
I'm sure this won't cause complaints.
Hope that translation will come soon. The writing is top notch and my thirst for more is insatiable.
▶ 75e56a (1) No.291676>>291696 >>291706
>>291631
>adult bandits
DELETE THIS FILTH NOW
▶ cba009 (1) No.291687>>291695
>>291636
>It's MGQ, it's always been more on the monstrous side, part 2 will probably be the same overall.
Looking at the previews it doesnt seem to be the case at all.
▶ 4b0a07 (2) No.291695>>291702 >>291771 >>291805 >>291850
>>291687
Only if you don't account for Xelvy.
▶ 62dc1e (1) No.291696
>>291676
they look like 12-13, nowhere near adult
▶ 83ffa4 (4) No.291702>>291715 >>291793
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>>291695
>Xelvy
Every-time I see his art it just keeps getting fucking scarier. It's not like he's a bad artist Delphinus, I'm looking at you he brings primal fear back from the recesses of my brain, it's like looking at a train wreck and hearing the agony of the passengers caught in the destruction but unable to help, I wan't to run away but I can't because when I look down I see my hand is around my dick.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.291706>>296872
>>291676
No! Their adult forms are my fetish.
Don't you want to see them grow from low rank basic monsters to their full high class potential?
▶ 4b0a07 (2) No.291715>>291956 >>296872
>>291702
He's a pretty good artist, probably one of the best to make stuff for MGQ from technical standpoint. His designs are so fucking abominable I can't fap to most of them but they do have this fascinating grotesque quality to them.
▶ e510ae (1) No.291771
>>291695
This is simultaneously well-done and downright disturbing. I can't do anything with this, but I'm both impressed and revolted nonetheless. Friggin Xelvy.
▶ 957743 (20) No.291793>>291805
>>291702
Given the origin of most of the monsters he designed in Paradox is, that kind of reaction is good. They are tragic horrors.
▶ 94adce (4) No.291805>>291815
>>291793
>that kind of reaction is good
Nigga, MGQ is supposed to be a H-game not a "nope" contest.
I remember the spider with the web condom necklace. I'd honestly rather fuck one of the sameface vore monsters, especially since in MGQ Paradox there are "vore, but not really" scenes for most of them.
>>291695
Is alright of a design, isn't downright disgusting like the spider I mentioned, and its interesting how esoteric this guy can get with his erotica. I just want a trooperoid in my party, dammit.
▶ 4d10ac (1) No.291815>>291849
>>291805
Some people just like to have a good fearboner every once in a while. Trooperoid is at the very least mid-high tier though, you have good taste.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.291849>>291858
>>291815
I prefer Lamiaroid myself.
I'm also concerned that they gave Sonya to Xelvy, they must have something in mind for her story-wise.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.291852
>>291850
>Slaaneshis
It looks more like a dark mechanium waifu if anything.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.291858>>291864
>>291849
It's obvious considering that she's a character that shouldn't exist.
Illias and that guy in black both say she shouldn't exist.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.291864>>291876
>>291858
Yeah, it's also mentioned in the paradox 2 trailer but I meant she's going to turn into some sort of eldritch Xelvy monster that we'll have to fight.
▶ 957743 (20) No.291876>>291892 >>291899
>>291864
Actual spoiler: Versions of her showed up as super bosses in the Labyrinth of Chaos or whatever the bonus dungeon is called in part 1. There is a 100% chance she is a boss fight in Paradox 2.
▶ 0efc5e (2) No.291892>>291917
>>291876
Where is the bonus dungeon? I must've missed it.
▶ 126535 (1) No.291899>>291912 >>291997
>>291876
(images are spoilers, kinda, maybe)
haven't played the labyrinth but I've seen those in the CG folder and I don't know if they're even drawn by Xelvy, they don't look like it. Plus the chaos labyrinth is kinda outside of the story and wasn't originally meant to be in paradox until part 3. I think she'll look more like a typical Xelvy monster but maybe they'll be many versions of her
▶ 78057c (1) No.291912
>>291899
>Soniamainyu and Soniamazda
>Names come from Angra Mainyu (all evil of the world in Zoroastrism) and Ahura Mazda (all good of the world in Zoroastrism)
Sounds like you only get to face one of the forms in a Law/Chaos-style route split story-wise
Or it's just Sonia after eating the loli you didn't pick at the beggining. I would prefer multiple routes, tho.
▶ e4489d (1) No.291917
>>291892
IIRC its the bookcase where the grim reaper is, or atleast in that area
▶ 6e0ca8 (1) No.291956
>>291715
That post goes a bit overboard, but he's not wrong. Part of the reason I love Xelvy's art is because it actually feels like "monster girls," not just "1/2 monster + 1/2 girl taped together."
▶ 957743 (20) No.291997>>292099
>>291899
Really? Given how broken the mechanics are for this game, I thought that it was included to give people who wanted to delve into the bullshit that was possible something to do with it. Granted, given the stat listings, the super bosses sound like a slog to get through in part 1.
If she is an Apoptosis, then there will be many of her. I doubt she will be the last boss seeing as how heavily they foreshadow her being bad news.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.292099>>292128
>>291997
>I thought that it was included to give people who wanted to delve into the bullshit that was possible something to do with it.
It was but they didn't include it in part 1 originally. They planned the labyrinth as a post-game bonus dungeon after part 3 but it was added via a later patch to part 1 because people already beat the game and asked for it.
▶ 957743 (20) No.292128>>292142 >>308410
>>292099
No one should underestimate the autism people go into with game mechanics. I actually feel kind of sorry for the people who went full into that, because I can't imagine anything in part 2 will be a remote challenge to their veteran parties outside of new bonus bosses and other things like that.
▶ 239c42 (4) No.292142>>292146
>>292128
how is data going to transfer from part 1 to part 2 anyway?
▶ 986acb (1) No.292146>>292159
>>292142
Guessing it'll be a system similar to MGQ where there is some setting to link the games together.
▶ d86586 (1) No.292158
Maybe I messed up the bitbucket, but I didn't see any h-scene having gotten translated in a while in there. Mostly some seduction scenes.
▶ 957743 (20) No.292159>>292230
>>292146
RPG maker doesn't have any native support for that kind of thing, from what I understand. Only thing I can think of is merging the folders, or have Paradox 2 include everything from 1, but there being some file that is needed to access content from 1. Then again, Torotoro did some strange stuff with the engine that MGQ used to get the battle system to work, iirc.
▶ 979f72 (3) No.292230>>292252 >>292273
>>292159
>have Paradox 2 include everything from 1, but there being some file that is needed to access content from 1
That's how it's going to work. Part 2 has everything from part 1 except h-scenes, you need part 1 to view those.
▶ 979f72 (3) No.292231
Oh hey they just answered that
>About the takeover of the previous chapter save data
>For some reason, there are many voices of concern regarding this … …
>As a result of the test play, no problem has occurred at all.
>In the first place trial version → It is the same way as in the previous chapter, just move the "save" folder.
>If there is a problem, it should already have occurred at the time of the product version of the previous chapter.
>It is unknown why there are many people who are concerned, but relief for the time being.
>Also, please do not be misled by rumors that will unnecessarily annoy you.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.292252
>>292230
That makes me wonder how the translators will handle that.
That is if the part 1 translation will merge nicely in with part 2 or if there will be a bunch more work to get it working.
▶ 7ba5ff (1) No.292273>>292280
>>292230
It's already confirmed? Sounds like a chore
How do you merge parts? Or you can't?
▶ 979f72 (3) No.292280
>>292273
>Those who have played the previous chapter can use the previous chapter saved data as they are.
>It is possible to take over everything and play the continuation of adventure.
>Also you can combine the previous chapter and the middle chapter and enjoy it as one game.
>Even if you purchase only the middle chapter, the basic data for the previous chapter is included in the middle chapter,
>The story of the previous chapter can also play.
>The middle chapter does not contain the H scene data of the previous chapter,
>The H scene of the previous chapter monster appears to be skipped.
>Of course, the H scene of the middle chapter appearance monster can be enjoyed.
>The assumed level at the time of clearing the previous chapter is 23 to 24,
>I assume the degree of growth that I master a senior position.
>If you want to enjoy the middle chapter with an appropriate balance,
>It is ideal to keep the party at the above growth level.
>In the previous chapter "Labyrinth of Chaos" If you are a party that has trained to a level where you can defeat the 100-story boss,
>Since the rasubosu of the middle chapter can also be dismissed, it may become a shoulder watermark.
It's google translate but sounds like you need to merge parts 1&2 to get all the h-scenes.
▶ d53268 (1) No.292743
Posts are disappearing again, aren't they?
▶ 9fddb7 (2) No.294885>>294921
>tfw used to like Alma Elma and the succubi characters
>They can't give the loveydovey sex I want
>You will only ever be livestock and cucked daily by other guys
ruined all of them for me tbh
▶ cb7fae (1) No.294920>>294926
I lost my save data from part one and never got to see all the translated H scenes.
Is part two coming out soon?
▶ 173423 (2) No.294921>>294931 >>294954 >>295026
>>294885
>he doesn't like succubi
▶ 173423 (2) No.294926
>>294920
Most h scenes are still untranslated but the next patch will have a bunch.
>Paradox part 2 is coming out June 23rd.
▶ f815d1 (1) No.294931
>>294921
>he can't see the value a relationship of love and respect that goes beyond sex or being used like a toy
▶ 5b1092 (3) No.294954
>>294921
>Not liking any of the other MG's in MGQ
>Liking worst succubus
>Ever
▶ 94adce (4) No.295000>>295073
>>291163
Setouchi seems to be gradually becoming a better artist. I remember in the original trilogy, and especially in part 1, I felt like his illustrations were the weakest.
UN DO is still my favorite artist among the bunch, I appreciate his use of watercolors, even if he sometimes exaggerates proportions which I dislike.
▶ 9fddb7 (2) No.295026
>>294921
>liking the most cuckbait succubus of them all
▶ ce01ad (3) No.295073>>295104
>>295000
UN DO is pretty good. He improved a lot too.
▶ ce01ad (3) No.295078>>295102
Oh and he draws really cool MGQ art outside of the game.
▶ 94adce (4) No.295102>>295115 >>295214
>>295078
>>295080
Why don't we just have UN DO do all the art from now on? Seems like he's really taken in with the whole MGQ stuff.
▶ 8a6989 (7) No.295104
>>295073
Personally I don't really like his style.
It's not bad, I just don't like how everything looks like watercolors.
▶ 957743 (20) No.295115
>>295102
Its not just UN DO who does stuff outside of it, even beyond sold stuff. Xelvy and Setouchi do stuff as well, and I am not sure if anyone has looked at any other artists to see if they do. Its probably something like the Japanese VA thing, where they are working their asses off to promote the game that has their work in it.
▶ 6baa34 (1) No.295214>>295234
>>295102
It's way too much art for one guy to do it all. Also everyone likes (and dislikes) different artists, if they got just one for everything a lot of people would be pissed. And most of them draw MGQ fanart (is it fanart when it's made by official artists?), Setouchi has made like 10 MGQ doujins.
>It's not bad, I just don't like how everything looks like watercolors.
It's kind of a weird choice for a h-game, isn't it? I didn't like it at first but it grew on me.
▶ 9fcffc (4) No.295234>>296370
>>295214
That picture is my favorite one that Jingai has done outside of the games. I really wish he'd color it.
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296370>>296389
>>295234
That is really cute. I might consider coloring it myself
(pic related. I colored it)
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296389>>296391 >>296424 >>296483
>>296370
Spent a bit under minutes doing luka. Who's the one in the very top right supposed to be? Is that nanabi backing up spatsune and tamamo? It also feels like I should be able to figure out those scribbles above alma elma. Maybe… Ilias, black alice, and promestine from left to right as the figures we can only see the legs of? That still leaves the wiggly mess in the very top right though. Hmmm
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296391
▶ b15c1f (9) No.296424>>296446
>>296389
Looks like Nanabi in the top right. The legs are (I think) Eden, Black Alice and Promestein.
I wonder if there's a larger version that has more characters, I'm no artist but you don't randomly just draw legs of a bunch of characters that you don't finish, no?
▶ 94104f (1) No.296446
>>296424
>I wonder if there's a larger version
Not that I know of. Reverse search gives nothing, it's not even on his pixiv.
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296483>>296533 >>296866
>>296389
The others are going faster so far, but the other heavenly knights and alice are probably gonna be pretty complex.
▶ 2168fd (1) No.296489>>296491 >>296514 >>296526
It's been absolutely forever since I played this, I think the furthest I got was fighting a sphynx in a pyramid?
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296491
>>296489
Play the entire thing. You haven't even gotten to the nightmare angels yet
▶ 8bd47b (1) No.296514
>>296489
We have many sights to show you.
▶ 5b1092 (3) No.296526>>310919
>>296489
Word of advice: DO NOT LOSE TO ANYTHING IN PART 3 EVER. Also, has a great true ending.
▶ 9fcffc (4) No.296533>>296540
>>296483
That looks absolutely amazing. You're doing great work.
▶ 239c42 (4) No.296540
>>296533
ooh, look at all that chrome
▶ 78f1f1 (4) No.296545>>296549 >>296572
I took a break,part 1 of paradox is done? Is he going for a 3fer like with the original trilogy?
▶ 5b1092 (3) No.296549>>296552 >>296569 >>296572 >>296626 >>296753
>>296545
Let's see if I've paid attention to things (/monster/ will call me a faggot if I'm wrong): MGQ paradox is a full fledged game, but not broken down into parts. The only reason translators are doing it this way is due to the sheer amount of content in it as it's bigger than MGQ.
▶ 78f1f1 (4) No.296552>>296569
>>296549
Just one big game but it's fucking massive? that sounds pretty great,i'll hold off until it's done then.
▶ 957743 (20) No.296569>>296575 >>296626
>>296549
>>296552
No, its a series. Torotoro only made the first one so far. Its still massive, as I think the first one was bigger than the third MGQ, but the second paradox is even bigger and its gonna get bigger from there. Every monster is a possible recruit, with only a couple of notable exceptions, and they tend to have things to say or react to specific reactions so every time a party member is added, more lines get added.
▶ 9fcffc (4) No.296572>>296575
>>296545
Part 1 of Paradox is translated enough for you to do the entire main story comfortably. I played through it and had a great time. I recommend choosing Ilias as your partner. Her story and character are more interesting than Alice's for a number of reasons, some of which are kind of spoilery.
>>296549
The entirety of Paradox isn't available for purchase. It's split into 3 sold separately parts just like the original VN. Part 2 is coming out very, very soon and Part 3 will be years from now. Who knows how long it'll take to translate Part 2 or for the translation to even start.
▶ 78f1f1 (4) No.296575>>296578
>>296569
>>296572
Ah,so it was as i originally thought,thanks for the correction,i might try part 1 out then.
▶ 9fcffc (4) No.296578
>>296575
For what it's worth just like the original trilogy all parts will eventually combine into one. Part 2 comes with all of Part 1 except for the H-scenes.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.296626
>>296549
>>296569
It's a trilogy like the original, following a similar route in the story (sort of. It's really confusing to explain to anyone who didn't play both the original and paradox) but because of all the new locations, NPCs, sidequests and other stuff part 1 of paradox alone has more text than the entire original trilogy. Part 2 is going to be even bigger.
▶ 4f89de (2) No.296708
>>296705
That new Granberries looks good. Too bad she's a fake dragon wannabie slut who was raped over 50 times by Alma.
Any Yao?
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296709
>>296705
All their boobs look just a bit bigger than in the original trilogy. This is, however, the first time unsealed tamamo hasn't had a weird looking face
▶ 2aa372 (2) No.296718
>>296705
>unsealed Tamamo
>drawn by Shiki
▶ 4b53f8 (1) No.296753
>>296549
It's not a full game. If it were, they wouldn't have omitted half the world map.
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296866>>298295 >>299093
>>296483
sylph, alice, and tamamo have joined the party. Probably gonna do the other foxes then work my way counter-clockwise
▶ e88cac (3) No.296872>>296875
So part 1 still isn't translated?
>>291631
>>291706
>Vampire
>Aging
It's shit.
>>291715
>Comparing Giger and Beksinski to Xelvy
TOP KEK
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.296875>>296876 >>296913
>>296872
There a lot to consider with monstergirl ages… though those aren't technically grown-up versions of the bandits. Simply empowered by the spirits. We do, however, know that aging rates are all over the place, and that even within species, subspecies can vary dramatically.
▶ e88cac (3) No.296876
>>296875
>Simply empowered by the spirits.
Forgot about that. It's been awhile.
▶ 957743 (20) No.296913
>>296705
Does this mean completely new H-scenes for them? Seems kinda odd given that they recycled most. I also wonder how sealed vs unsealed Tamamo will work.
>>296875
>monster girl ages
Yeah, that candle girl keeps bitching about being on the verge of dying, but is 200 something years old. Chrome is older than Alice and so on.
▶ bef60f (1) No.296955>>308379
Sweet, they've made new cut-ins for old characters.
▶ 957743 (20) No.297235>>297244
A fair few new girls, a fair chunk of good ones even. Yao fags will be sad, as there is no sign of Yao. Illias got a face lift as well. Blushing Adralamech looks kind of cute, pity that she turns into such a horror.
▶ 5e9fe5 (2) No.297244>>297260
>>297235
Did they get rid of frfr or something? Seems like all his characters from the original far are now drawn by another artist.
▶ 957743 (20) No.297260>>297262 >>297270
>>297244
Not sure. I think the new cut in of Luka is from him, but even that is pretty damn tame compared to what some of the other artists put out. Especially for a character that you are probably going to be using heavily because Luka is actually pretty damn good.
▶ 5e9fe5 (2) No.297262>>297297
>>297260
>I think the new cut in of Luka is from him
Nah, that's Jingai Modoki's, it was in paradox 1 game files, just wasn't used. Is that the one used for his attacks now?
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.297270
>>297260
alma elma needs to calm her tits
▶ 957743 (20) No.297297
>>297262
Not sure. It still is using the old frfr art at least, and they haven't made new h-scenes for any of the heavenly knights.
▶ d5c63b (1) No.297434>>297438 >>297444
You know, all I want is a ending where you get to fuck Yao's virgin pussy. Then marry her and grow old together raising children.
▶ 4f89de (2) No.297438
>>297434
Good taste friendo.
▶ 78f1f1 (4) No.297444>>297944
>>297434
Maybe we can have a nice writefag pen down a story of that.
Or at the very least we can dream.
▶ 2fde41 (1) No.297488
any mega links for part 2?
▶ 6ca205 (1) No.297593
Is there one a link for part one, tried to use the patch on mine but its out of date
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.297718>>297746
>>290733 (OP)
Just noticed the muscly guy in the bottom corner of the first image. That's not supposed to be luka, is it? Marcellus confirmed party member? He doesn't have the cyborg bits though. Nero getting his op ass stomped?
▶ b15c1f (9) No.297746>>298130
>>297718
see
>>290776
you can recruit Heinrich from what I've heard though.
▶ f0493e (1) No.297944
>>297444
Trips of truth.
But I'm swamped right now tho.
▶ 433236 (1) No.298130>>298974
>>297746
You can, but only in the Ilias route. Alice route gets an alt. universe version of Black Alice instead.
▶ 94adce (4) No.298137>>298155 >>298300
>>290735
>>290776
>House Dargoth
It was house Dagoth you friggen dregs
▶ 957743 (20) No.298155
▶ 26779f (1) No.298295
>>296866
I love you, anon.
▶ 83ffa4 (4) No.298300
>>298137
>tfw some random mortal claims to be the nerevar (even though there were like 10 others before him) destroys the heart of lorkhan even though all I was trying to do was translate some monster girl hentai rpg
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.298974>>298983
>>298130
This really makes me want to start the game over. Maybe I'll do a newgame+ to set that up
Doesn't ilias only get like, 4 races, though? Alice has access to so much more…
▶ 957743 (20) No.298983
>>298974
Yep. Illias only gets access to angel races. On the other hand, Illias gets attacks that benefit from her trait much easier than Alice does, and the cost of those attacks is less extreme.
▶ 239c42 (4) No.298987>>299029
so the question is, do you take the loli snek lord to bed, or the loli of goddess your grandmother.
▶ 9b0e18 (1) No.298994
>>290753
I can see a bit of her *fundoshi* on the edges.
▶ bc6d50 (2) No.299053>>299116
Oh and an initial patch for part 2 came out
https://dargoth.com/mgq-paradox-2-english-initial-patch
It's only basic interface stuff and some items, it doesn't even have everything from part 1 (story that's already translated) because the way it's encoded in part 2 is different and they need more time to import it all again.
▶ 91f8e7 (12) No.299093>>299243 >>299302
>>296866
bit more progress. Working very sporadically.
the fuck is that above alma elma?
▶ 957743 (20) No.299116
>>299053
I'm tempted but reading through the comments and they are saying that the big patches are not out yet, and I would just be doing what I am occasionally going back to Part 1 to do, which is grind up jobs to eventually beat super bosses, but I get bored doing that.
▶ 239c42 (4) No.299241
>>299029
Perfect, though really, fucking Ilias is only gonna screw up the timeline worse.
▶ b15c1f (9) No.299243
>>299093
I think that's her tail?
▶ bc6d50 (2) No.299302>>299303
>>299093
It's either her tail or this thing.
▶ 72239c (1) No.299303
>>299302
the fanciest chandelier.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.301762>>301773
How do I enter the castle in Grand Noah? I'm supposed to meet the queen according to the walkthrough but the entry's restricted
▶ 0da548 (9) No.301773>>301781
>>301762
You need to have done the subquest to recruit Sara first.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.301781>>301828
>>301773
Well if that's the only requirement then my game must be bugged because she is already in my party.
▶ 0da548 (9) No.301828>>302278
>>301781
Are you on NG+? If so you have to do it again even though you already have her, as the flags haven't been set. If not or if you've already done so then I'm unsure. It's a guard that's refusing your entry, right?
▶ 3fea09 (3) No.301904>>302031
Just finished part 2, some nice character progression but you could see that shit in the end coming from a mile away. I kinda started getting bored near the end though so it will be a while before I embark upon part 3.
▶ 3fea09 (3) No.301909
Oh and I quite like this artist out of the lot.
▶ 25ebe3 (1) No.302019
▶ dbc69d (1) No.302031>>302111
>>301904
You played with machine translation? Does it even make enough sense to tell what's really going on?
▶ 3fea09 (3) No.302111
>>302031
Not paradox, vanilla MGQ
▶ 54a87b (1) No.302278>>302333
>>301828
I am, but I'm not not allowed to go see Sara. I heard that you had to get the pope first but I can't do his side quest either since the guard in luddite cave won't move even after I've done what I'm supposed to do to get access to the cave.
▶ 0da548 (9) No.302333>>302334 >>302411
>>302278
Oh, then you've got quite a bit of bullshit you need to do.
Since you're at Grand Noah via NG+ I'm going to assume you've already done the library stuff and spirit things and know the general outline of how this goes, but just in case you've forgotten or other people need to know the essential side stuff that needs to be done in part 1 to continue in part 2 I'll list it here anyway
First talk to pope man in his castle again, he'll ask if you want to take up guard duty, say yes. If for some reason this isn't happening send me a screen shot of what he does say so I can try and figure out what the fuck you broke.
Then you go to luddite and talk to the priest guy in a house in the upper part of the city.
After that take the exit to the east of the city, talking to the NPCs along the way, to open up the Mecha Cave.
Fight Bryn with the MOTHERFUCKING MECHA POPE and all that.
Go to Sara, lose the bf because winning means death, talk to NPCs at the bar in Sabasa, go into the abandoned building and get whatever, although you might have already done this bit.
Head over to the Oasis, talk to the assassin chick, unless you did the FUCKING MECHA POPE quest she refused to help you, but now that you have done so you can go to the sphinx in the pyramid for monster blood
Take the monster blood back and beat the shit out of Sara
Take Sara to luddite and watch everyone die again, then Sara officially joins your party
You can now continue on with part 2 in Grand Noah.
▶ 0da548 (9) No.302334
>>302333
And by East of the city I mean West because Lefts and Rights are hard.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.302411
>>302333
Okay so I followed your instructions to the letter and everything seems to have worked out now. Thanks for the help.
▶ 1fb0b8 (1) No.302838>>302901
Anyone know which specific colisseum battle I need to win for the advanced monk classes?
▶ 587cec (1) No.302861>>302897 >>302974
If you've never played MGQ, should you start with these games, or the original VNs?
▶ ded112 (1) No.302897
>>302861
VNs, unless you don't care about the story. Paradox is all about fucking up / fixing the timeline and references to the original, I can't imagine how it makes any sense to someone who didn't play the original.
▶ 0da548 (9) No.302901
>>302838
It's either the ultimate challenge or the unlimited one. None of the race challenges or survival in any case. If you don't get it from those then you don't get it from the coliseum at all.
▶ c5e3d8 (1) No.302946>>302957
I went to the Japanese wiki to check out new classes in paradox 2 and this is the first entry via google translate:
>For everyone who has a sword sword sword in addition to the sword and also the best sword sword sword, it is easy to master the sword skill of the unmatched power that it is a subject of admiration and to stroke multiple enemies with easy sword technique It is also usable, it is exactly at the apex of the sword
▶ 62c36f (1) No.302974
>>302861
Play the VNs. They're fun.
▶ b7a08e (1) No.302982
>>302957
Welcome to Corneria!
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.303003>>303013
Where is that damn elf princess? I already defeated shirohebi and talked to elf queen again but she's not outside of the shrine like the walkthrough says.
▶ 7434d5 (2) No.303013>>303018 >>303510
>>303003
I think you need to finish Yamatai Village's shrine quests: With the Tanuki shrine, with the Nekomata shrine, and talk with Tamamo at the fox shrine if she is there - that will basically get you the seal for the eastern jobs. Afterwards talk with the Elf Queen and at some point the dialog will change from what she said beforehand.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.303018>>303027
>>303013
Where do you get the quests? I must have missed something because there's no one at the shrines to give me a quest.
▶ 7434d5 (2) No.303027>>303239
>>303018
If you followed the guide, You should have taken the Dullahan to the village's mayor. That initiates the quests at the shrines. In the Nekomata shrine (the one that is filled with nekomatas) you need to speak with the shrine maiden there, find the correct Nekomata, and talk with the shrine maiden again. At the tanuki shrine, speak with the kitsune there. Find the Tanuki in Yamata no Orochi's cave, and talk with the kitsune after she's back. If Tamamo is absent from her house that's still fine. If not, speak to her, I guess. I don't know if anything is different or not on that end in Alice's route. If you got access to the eastern jobs, then you can continue and talk with Elf Queen.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.303239>>303510
>>303027
Thanks, I got the nekomata and the one where you go to yamata no orochi's cave, but I am still lost at what to do in the fox shrine as I've spoken to every fox and person without help.
▶ dcc176 (1) No.303510>>303695 >>303700
>>303239
If you enter the house in the fox shrine and see foxes standing side-by-side above and below your party, but not Tamamo, that's still fine. If you did all of the quests, you should have gotten the Eastern Book of Secrets that will allow access to the three eastern jobs. If not, make sure to talk to the kitsune and the nekomata shrine maiden again. After you got the key item, continue following >>303013.
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.303695>>303700
>>303510
Already talked to everyone and everything on the mountain and also in the entire village yet I don't have the eastern jobs
▶ d9a4e2 (8) No.303700
>>303510
>>303695
Nevermind, I was just stupid, had forgotten to talk to the village chief again.
▶ 41db08 (1) No.304637
Any progress on translating this beast? Where can I find news about progress?
▶ ff0b8e (1) No.304642>>306769
Maybe I should give part one a play now it is at 100%.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.306768>>306771
In several menus in paradox, it says you can do things by pressing the 'A' key. This just causes me to exit menus though. Anyone else have this problem?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.306769>>308204
>>304642
>he thinks part one is done because part two is out
You have no idea how long these translations are taking. Part one is roughly 76% done.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.306771
>>306768
Nevermind. Fixed it with F1. I must have fucked with the controls on some other RPG maker game.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.306859>>306996
IMPORTANT TIP
The bondage rope doubles XP in exchange for starting battles blind, paralyzed, and silenced. This bonus applies to reserve party members as well, effectively nullifying its downside. You can steal bondage ropes from Imps in the Cave of Trials near the very beginning of the game. No reason you shouldn't have four party members earning double XP nearly all the time. Posted this in the /hgg/ thread.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.306888>>306996
They can also be bought for 200G at Pornof to the southeast.
▶ c2b208 (6) No.306996
>>306859
>>306888
Honestly, exp is much less of an issue compared to job exp. That shit is hard to come by in part 1.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307005>>307052
Do items and abilities that lower the encounter rate stack? I know ones that raise it do.
▶ 0da548 (9) No.307052>>307079
>>307005
Yes. But there's an item which reduces it all the way to 0, so there's not much of a point.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307079
>>307052
It seems pretty useful to stack them until you can get the item.
▶ 96d983 (1) No.307155>>307209
>Hear about Part 2 coming out
>Finally find my old Paradox difficulty save files
>Don't remember where I am in the story
Fuck.
▶ 3854dc (1) No.307158
I decided to play through part 1 of Paradox now that we have the "final" English translation patch for it, and I just want to say that Rumi has the greatest H-scene dialogue of all time.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307209>>307213
I got the Meia boss fight and started getting more untranslated text than usual. Is this where the translation ends? I thought all the story stuff was translated?
>>307155
You do know you can just ask Amira, right?
▶ c2b208 (6) No.307213>>307215
>>307209
All of part 1's story should be translated, and you will know when you reach the end of part 1. There is more untranslated text, but most of it is battle text, temptations and such like that.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307215>>307270
>>307213
Well that sucks. I assumed all story text had a fair chance of including all boss text. Not rape scenes, but just the things they say during fights.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307270>>307391
Any reason not to dump all stat seeds into Luka?
>>307215
Fought her again. Didn't get any untranslated text. I think it was a pleasure attack or something that was untranslated because she used a temptation this time and it was translated.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307300
Spoilers from San Illias
The Mecha Pope King joins your party
Fucking wew.
▶ c2b208 (6) No.307391>>307573
>>307270
Not really, no. Luka is good in part 1, but he doesn't have as easy of an access to different abilities such as the stat boosting ones. My understanding is that he gets overshadowed hard by other characters in part 2, so he is supposed to get a buff of some kind. I think people were saying something about a buff that was going to happen in part 3 that was more general.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307487>>307715
I think they give too many offensive jobs and monsters retarded recovery skills for no good reason. There a wide variety of support jobs and races that learn sensible recovery skills. There's no need for my heavy hitters to be healers as well, especially when I can swap reserve members into battle at no cost. Prome has a sword skill called "blade of healing" and my gunner just learned fucking "recovery bullet".
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307560
>Get to the spooky mansion
>Zombies are dancing Thriller in one room
>Get to Grandeur
>Unlock the stage
>You can make the zombies dance Thriller on stage
I love this game.
▶ 2c57b8 (1) No.307573>>307715
>>307391
Given how the original trilogy went, Luka is probably legally obligated to be the best in the game at the end. Though I wouldn't count out cyber-marcellus or the mary sue siblings
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307706>>307743
Is there any list of where the locked chests are? I forgot to write them down and have missed around 10 green chests.
▶ c2b208 (6) No.307715
>>307487
The idea is to make your characters as general as possible, honestly, and there is the possibility of running into enemies that your physical fighters can't do much/anything against. So stuff like Blade of Healing would give them something to do while your mages do the damage. The game does encourage you to go through related jobs, and even unrelated ones, to get at everything they need to be damn powerful.
Prom also gets that skill from being an angel. Sometimes racial skills/abilities are useless to the character that gets them. For example, all angels get resist and nullify ascension abilities. That is a passive trait to the angel race that they get without using abilities. However, on characters with access to multiple races, such as Luka, you could use that to your advantage if he happens upon a race tree that is weak to that.
>>307573
Its been awhile, but even at the very end of the game Luka and Alice got outclassed in damage by the Four Heavenly Knights and Tamamo tanks a quadruple giga while in her sealed form. Luka's thing in the original was charisma.
▶ d42773 (1) No.307716>>308152
I know the majority of you already have on your harddrives but where should i torrent/download mgq once this new iteration comes, or should i actually get it off of DL site?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307743
>>307706
Nevermind. I've finished backtracking through everywhere.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307757>>308159
I've just noticed Nanabi is max level at 30. Is this everyone's max level for part one, or do different monsters and characters have different max levels? Or is it some combination of varying max levels between characters that will increase in each new part?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307847
Is the happiness bag any use?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307923>>307928 >>307969
Are the monsters in the third tartarus completely missable until NG+?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307928>>307969
>>307923
On a related note, can you recruit monsters from the replay battles at the bookshelf by the reaper?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.307969
▶ 3779a5 (1) No.308152
>>307716
I would also like to know. I've been out of the loop for far too long.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308157>>308159
Do any items or abilities that effect encounter rates work in the chaos labyrinth at all?
▶ f7801f (1) No.308159>>308170
>>307757
This is everyone's max level in part one.
>>308157
No, they only apply to general encounters (overworld, caves, etc.) The status nullification items do still work though (Genji armor, Ribbon, etc.)
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308170>>308209 >>308572
What is with Xelvy and fucking yellow semen? This is worse than yellow subtitles.
>>308159
Danke, though I've kinda figured these things out manually already.
▶ aaff30 (1) No.308204>>308209
>>306769
But I thought Dargoth released the "final" patch? What's still missing? I wanted to play it, but I wanted to make sure it was all in English.
▶ c2b208 (6) No.308209
>>308170
Xelvy is fucking crazy.
>>308204
Most of it is stuff like battle text, some h-scenes Prom's final hand job scene is half done, but she gets a proper scene in part 2 that isn't FUCKING SEAWEED and stuff like that. Everything in part 1 goes fairly seamlessly into part 2, so they are just translating both at once now. I assume they are going with the same priorities as they did with Part 1, so they are going to make it playable and go through the story prior to doing h-scenes and stuff like that.
▶ 515709 (2) No.308379
>>296955
>That steins;gate reference
Fucking metal.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308410
>>292128
That's only if they autistically take their time max every single fucking monster girl. If you want to go through the next part without steamrolling it despite having played the bonus dungeon, just put together a new party.
▶ 515709 (2) No.308433>>308512 >>308538
Is there a way to fuck my teammates?
▶ 42b3f5 (1) No.308512>>308538 >>313199
Mina has to be my favorite party member by far. She's the only character in part 1 with access to the berserker job, which has even more HP and attack than battle master and basically never runs out of SP. Berserkers act on their own, but her skills are all offensive and hit like a truck so it's unlikely that she'll waste a turn. Since she's berserk already you can equip her with accessories like the reckless mask without penalty, and her trait boosts her axe skill attack power by 30% ON TOP of all that. The berserker job gives her abilities like Attack +20%, double SP charge, axe booster +15% (which also boosts multiweapon skills for battle master), and the berserker ability so you can carry over berserk power to other jobs.
Hell, if you have the patience for it you can grind her to master martial artist and make her a battle master so you can give her two axes and turn her into a one-monster atomic bomb. Keep berserker off for precision annihilation or turn it on to get the berserker attack and SP boost for mass uncontrolled carnage. It's just a shame she doesn't get a proper battle cutin like everyone else.
>>308433
Just talk to each character in the pocket castle and select Request to see which scenes they have, and the required affection rating to view them. You can increase a party member's affection by keeping them in your active party or giving them presents, as long as you don't give them worthless crap they don't like. Each character has her own preferences, but your safest bet is Ama Ama Dangos from the Sutherland Inn or high-quality food cooked by a character with the cook/three star chef job.
▶ 59dfc5 (1) No.308538
>>308512
>>308433
The parfait will get you into the pants of 90% of the roster, just save before you use it, then reload afterwards. They're not exactly easy to come by
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308547>>308552
To anyone who has braved the untranslated part two: Will there be a shop, likely in Yamatai if there is one, where you can buy most of the food items in bulk instead of having to cook them one by one?
▶ 0da548 (9) No.308552>>308554
>>308547
There ARE shops which sell complex food. But the highest level chef still has unique culinary that can give upwards of 200 affection per unit when given to the right character.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308554>>308556
>>308552
You mean three star, or is five star available in part two?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308555
In the Chaos Labyrinth the elemental spirits grant you the blessings of Earth/Water/Wind/Fire. Are these equivalent to the spirit summons Luka can do, or are they something else?
▶ 0da548 (9) No.308556>>308558
>>308554
"Flavor Emperor" actually
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308558
>Get to tenth floor of Chaos Labyrinth
>Talk to Rabbit
>Lines congratulating me and telling me I am going to be healed are translated
>Choices you can make are not
Dargoth why?
>>308556
Neato.
▶ 8ec369 (1) No.308572>>308598
>>308170
Any more of Riot, anon?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308598
>>308572
Play the game. She has two requestable scenes and both in English.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308699
The wiki says apoptosis types reflect physicals in the Chaos Labyrinth, but I've gotten consistent reflection from roid types too. Is it just anything that shows up in a tartarus? Is it anything non-natural? Are the monsters from lab where you find Hild included?
Since you're not likely to get enough seeds to keep up with the increasing difficulty of the Labyrinth, is there a rough upper limit for how far you can get given the level cap for each part of the trilogy?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308701
Also, do random encounter get new drops or is there little reason to have a drop rate boost?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308704
Can you find items in barrels and jars in the labyrinth?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.308706
Does Holy Martyr just not proc if you have Will? Or does it not proc because of Miracle of the Goddess?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310881>>310883
Dargoth's site appears to be down.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310883>>310884 >>310974
>>310881
In fact, isitdownrightnow says it's been down for more than a week.
▶ 5c5d6c (1) No.310884>>310886
>>310883
Shit, so I'm not the only one then?
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310886
>>310884
Well, I guess it's dead now. Time to learn Nippongu.
▶ 118071 (1) No.310919>>310933
>>296526
I thought I was the only one.
Fucking dopple luka gave me a boner to end all boners though
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310933>>311084
>>310919
>I thought I was the only one
It's practically universally agreed upon that part three's enemies are strong incentive to stop losing.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310955
Anyone have a complete save for the original trilogy?
▶ e06b51 (1) No.310974>>310975 >>310976
>>310883
try dargoth.com
that's his new site
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310975>>310976
>>310974
That was the site that was down.
▶ aefbc7 (39) No.310976
▶ c2b208 (6) No.311084
>>310933
I think at least one of the next dolls was alright, but then its Luka fucking the woman that killed one of his allies and everyone is going to die. I generally prefer the request system of Paradox over losing in the original, but I am also a fan of loving femdom over all other kinds which is really fucking rare in MGQ, if it exists at all.
▶ d64d05 (6) No.313199>>313210
>>308512
Update.
Also be sure to equip a heavy ring on to your magical scientists/librarians. They don't use MP for their skills but they still get the magic boost from it.
▶ d64d05 (6) No.313210
>>313199
I spoke too soon.
▶ d64d05 (6) No.314920>>314921 >>315000
I don't like multi-posting like this, but since no one else is posting in this thread any more I guess I'll give my thoughts on the ending. Rather than using something competent, I powered through the Alice route of part 2 with the power of chiitrans and Google Translate. I was able to read through the Engrish pretty well, although I couldn't parse what Tamamo was saying at the Fox shrine. I actually enjoyed this part quite a lot with all the party members and jobs and races it opened up. In fact, there's mercifully only one tartarus rift you have to explore in part 2, and it doesn't lead to a ruined hellscape. I thought it held together really well until the ending. Actual spoilers for the ending of part 2 coming up…
All you really need to know about the ending is that a bunch of crazy bullshit suddenly happens and characters pop up out of nowhere with no build-up so we can have a climax. That's par for the course at this point, so I don't have a problem with the final battle. What happens afterward, however, fucking baffles me. The Lilith sisters show up so they can destroy what's left of this world's Ilias, I think. Alice is mildly annoyed that they suddenly kill Ilias while she was giving exposition, but I guess she gets over it pretty quickly. After the fireworks of the final battle are over, Morrigan offers to become a companion. I shit you not. The Lilith sisters are the most pervasive and consistent source of misery and conflict for all of part 1 and 2, and at the end they show up and ask for a spot on the team so Morrigan can spy on Luka. The Lilith sisters, by the way, were also the masterminds who orchestrated the war in Sentora by mass-brainwashing the entire population of the Gold region, imprisoning the Queen Ant, and brainwashing the King of Grangold and turning him into a mass-murdering superweapon. Ending the war is the primary conflict that drives the first half of part 2. Succubi-fying all the women and killing all the men in Luddite Village was just an extracurricular activity for them. Hell, you spend most of your sidequest time rehabilitating all the human leaders and monster queens they fucked over. And the entire time they have the fucking GALL to insist that they totally know what they're doing and it's all for the sake of saving the world and they should be working together with Luka, honest. So naturally, when Morrigan tries to join the party, I tell this bitch NO multiple times, and she STILL forces her way in. Luka and Alice just roll with it. But hey, at least now I have a powerful new succubus comrade, right? Ha Ha, WRONG. Morrigan's energy was conveniently drained during the climax (which also gave us a harder final boss to deal with, thanks a lot you fucking moron), so she lost a lot of her power. But hey, at least she's on par with the rest of my party…or so I thought, until I saw her default job. Master Swordcerer. That is, a spellsword. The shittiest job I couldn't make good no matter how hard I tried. Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't get any swords or sword skills to do any respectable damage in this game. At least it's over.
▶ d64d05 (6) No.314921>>315000
>>314920
Except it's not, because there is also a post-story sidequest involving Morrigan. So I drag her and Promestein through Luddite village past the graves of all the men Morrigan turned into dried fish and into the ever-relevant hidden laboratory. In the back where Luka met Hild, Morrigan and Promestein talk a bit about the main computer and the data contained in the facility, and Morrigan starts expositing about herself to give some flimsy justifications for being preposterously evil. See, the Lilith sisters came from a parallel universe where monsters won the Great Monster Wars and reign supreme, and they came to this world by killing themselves and somehow entering their bodies from this world, melding their personalities and memories, awakening, and breaking out from wherever they were. Out of the goodness of their hearts, they're killing any men they come across who don't belong in the "main timeline" and sending their souls to the world they came from, liberated from Ilias' influence. That way they can live in that world instead of facing doom in this world that's supposed to be ending soon. It's just a happy coincidence that their world is dominated by semen-hungry monsters and sending men there involves raping them to death with no explanation. When Morrigan gets done spouting all this bullshit, guess who shows up? Alma Elma. The last time Alma saw the Lilith sisters, they ganged up on her to beat her within an inch of her life and lock her in a sealed prison. Alma's fate was even an emotional point of drama during the war campaign. So yeah, Alma is here to get revenge for that…and, you know, to kill Morrigan for being such a dangerously evil psychotic bitch. What is Luka's reaction to all of this? "No, Alma! I have to defend Morrigan! I won't let you hurt my new friend!" It was at this point that I slammed my head into a wall. So we have a fight with Alma Elma. After letting Alma rape Morrigan, I spam her to death with Dispel and Gnome-boosted spear skills. At long last, Alma Elma joins the party for real. All's well that ends well.
Alma's castle request scenes are all tail vore, plus a recycled handjob scene.
At this point I consider myself thoroughly trolled. 10/10, torotoro. Well done.
▶ e69176 (3) No.315000>>315043 >>315460
>>314920
>>314921
I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not sure what anyone expected there.They outright tell you at Luddite that they are going to be joining your party later. Plus, the game already has you recruiting the apoptosis, which appear to share a single mind in some cases, and are known to massacre populations whose world gets infected by chaos.
It is odd that they have it work out that way. Its a bit of a bait and switch, since my understanding is that the Illias route has more character moments, and is basically the start of her sorting herself out into a better person. You would expect most people to go for Alice first since she was heroine of the last game, and Illias was a massive bitch. So now Alice gets two now, more later, of the biggest bitches in the franchise.
Also: that class doesn't make any fucking sense for her. She is never shown with a weapon, and if I were to go with something I would go either pure mage or magus fist.
▶ ab1322 (1) No.315043>>315096 >>315460
>>315000
>I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not sure what anyone expected there.
to have a choice to not be a total genocide-supporting bitchboy?
▶ e69176 (3) No.315096
>>315043
Not saying it isn't bullshit, just that the game was fairly obvious about the fact that at some point the bitch squad was joining your party on that route. The game is equally obvious about the angels like Gnosis joining your party on the Illias route. I'd also say that the game is fairly obvious about the fact that both Illias and Alice's solution to the spread of Chaos won't work as they are both too weak to fight it.
▶ 2e3a30 (1) No.315179
>>299029
Replace tsundere with boring as bland as fuck snek
▶ d64d05 (6) No.315460>>315462 >>315503 >>315721
>>315000
>>315043
I might be willing to forgive it if they adopt a Llamas with Hats routine.
>"Morrigan! What happened to this traveling merchant? Did you do this?"
<"Oh, hey, I didn't even notice him. How did he get here?"
>"You drained this guy to death and dumped his body on the side of the road, didn't you?"
<"What? Me? Why would I do this?"
>"It's all you ever do, Morrigan."
<"That's not true. What about the time I baked brownies for everyone?"
>"You baked a potent aphrodisiac into those brownies!"
<"Hey, it's not my fault people today can't handle a little added kick to their baked goods."
I'm surprised the head priest of the Ilias temple doesn't react to seeing Morrigan in Luka's party. I like the short interaction he has with the King of San Ilia. Imagine if he had more unique lines as Luka gathers more imposing, famous, and legendary figures into his party.
"Well met, Unblessed Hero - OH WHAT THE FUCK!"
On an unrelated note, I compared Mina to Monster Cow Lord at peak strength. Monster Cow Lord comes out slightly ahead, especially with the higher damage bonus from her trait. I still have to stick with my old favorite Mina, though, for the wider set of skills I've accrued for her.
I also stumbled across a skill that breaks the game: Waning Moon Dance, learned by the White Snake Kagura race. What does it do? It makes all allies in battle immune to physical damage for four rounds. That's right. All physical damage, for everyone at once, with speed priority. Eat shit, Vicarious Clara. The catch? It ain't cheap. 12 SP for just four rounds. The solution? Just equip a gold magatama to halve SP costs. Boom. You just won the game. You can find one gold magatama in a treasure chest in the final area of the main story, but if you're patient enough you can steal as many as you want from manta girls in the open sea. With this skill, you can make a party that is virtually immune to harm.
▶ d64d05 (6) No.315462
>>315460
I used Teeny as the cornerstone with Waning Moon Dance, and her all-important service skill Special Herbal Tea which lets her quickly restore SP for herself or an ally one at a time so she can keep refreshing Waning Moon Dance. Next you want someone who can cast a magic reflection wall for the party. White Snake Kagura also learns Evening Moon Dance which, you guessed it, nullifies magic damage for the same SP cost as Waning Moon Dance. I think it's better to have someone else defend against magic attacks since Teeny will already be really busy restoring SP for everyone and refreshing one dance, and she can't afford to spend that much SP that quickly. Plus, magic reflection is just more fun. You can use a summoner with carbuncle if you want more versatility and magic damage, but I went with Undine as a purifying slime with Aqua Mirror. That way she can keep casting magic reflection with SP that can be refreshed by Teeny. A summoner might still be preferable if you want one less SP sink to worry about and you think your MP reserves can hold out. It's up to you. With physical and magical walls taken care of, I elected Remi as a Godly Doctor to handle final contingencies. She should be using Mass Shock Resistance Injection and Mass Antibiotic Injection. Those skills make allies immune to all forms of instant defeat and all common status effects, respectively. If you ever have the time and SP to spare for Remi, it's also worthwhile to use Mass Doping and Re-Revival Treatment, just in case. With three party members dedicated to buffs and defense, we have one slot open for a damage dealer. Take your pick. It might take longer to win fights, but as long as Teeny is around to restore SP and everyone is immune to virtually everything, you'll be able to take your time.
With this, your party reflects magical damage and other spells, and is immune to physical damage, common status effects, and all forms of instant defeat. The biggest hurdle is making sure everyone survives the first round long enough to cast their buffs before they get one-shotted or hit with a debilitating status effect. As far as other weaknesses go, Dispel is obviously the biggest one. There's not much you can do about that but try to recover as quickly as possible. Status effects not covered by Mass Antibiotic Injection are also a problem, since even one ally missing a round can spell disaster. See if anyone on your team can handle specialized recovery or immunity. Finally, you'll want to pick the right damage dealer for the job to get past your opponent's own buffs and defenses. Heavy physical hitters are usually your best bet.
With this setup, I managed to defeat all three forms of alternate universe Black Alice on my first attempt…well, almost. Her third form has a bullshit darkness attack that hits everyone six times in a row and bypasses all forms of defense. After I got nailed by that out of nowhere, I swapped out Monster Cow Lord for Luka so he could tank that attack as well as deal damage and tried again. After she used it again, I swapped out for my reserve team and spammed Einherjar so I could destroy her before she destroyed me. It just barely worked.
▶ e69176 (3) No.315503
>>315460
When Torotoro started Paradox, you can tell they were thinking someone would waifu pretty much any and all of the characters. So, the monsters seem much less interested in fucking everything that moves once they join the party, and it starts focusing on their other traits, as bland or one note as they might be. You can guess why. The exceptions are maybe the nun monsters who have a routine of confessing to having no self control, and of course that fucking mermaid, Meia.
As far as interactions, there are too many characters now, and that means a lot of missed opportunities. For example, if you bring Don Dahlia to Don Father's estate, no one reacts at least in part 1. Hell, I don't think she has any special interactions, and I haven't checked with any of the other small time human characters. It makes the random recruits seem a bit less worthwhile to pick up, and recruiting them a bit more like filling up a demon compendium in an SMT game without the use of fusion. At least the battle fuckers are easy to pick up, and even if you don't particularly want a boss character, the process of getting them is worth it for experience. As for why the head priest didn't react, chances are he didn't know that Morrigan was the infamous Morrigan; I don't even remember Alice knowing, or believing, that Morrigan was one of the three until after the first fight. I am betting if you ever restore Alice and Illias to their full forms, you will probably see lines like that.
▶ 141a57 (1) No.315721
>>315460
Physical damage isn't a catch all. The most dangerous attacks are still the "sure hit" kind, which aren't magic or phys.
▶ a2f388 (2) No.316393>>316395
>>316392
Are those eggs going into his ass?
▶ 716981 (2) No.316395>>316401
>>316393
Other way around.
▶ a2f388 (2) No.316401
>>316395
So they were still implanted in the ass, kinda what I meant but okay.
▶ c21385 (1) No.316450
>>316440
thats some mighty leafposting my friend.
▶ b562bf (1) No.318511>>318735 >>318766
Did dargoth died or is it normal for him to disappear for months on end?
▶ f75b7c (1) No.318551
>>316392
What monster is that?
▶ 518982 (1) No.318735
▶ c86114 (1) No.318766
>>318511
I think we're waiting on the final Part 2 update. Torotoro mentioned back in August or something it'd be coming out.