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 No.297152

ITT qts who feel in the wrong body can post about their feelings safely and receive advice or whatever

 No.297160

>>297152

>safely

You've had enough threads about this stuff. Just stay away from that shit unless you want tits and zero libido and suicidal mood swings.

Do what me and Admin did: diet and exercise.

Plus people who trunk these are cute pills are horribly mistaken, and when they get older are absolutely fucked in terms of looks. The few porn and cam sluts still around after 30 usually had surgery, and the ones who don't will turn ugly fast.

Age naturally OP. See a doctor who doesn't push pills and will help you of you have GID. I know what you're feeling but there is help and ways without resorting to this.

And finally please stop making threads on this. I like my boys to be boys. i accepted that about myself as well, i know some others don't, but really this thread keeps getting made and it's getting annoying.


 No.297161

>>297160

Think* not trunk.

Ignore the autocorrects from my phone.


 No.297164

File: 3d8b1c9c0213878⋯.jpg (74.37 KB, 536x672, 67:84, LynnOnCouch.jpg)

>>297160

There's no active thread about this.

It's best to have a discussion about things rather than pretending they don't exist.

What you personally want for "boys" (sic!) has no bearing on this.

Likewise, suggesting someone should just run and start eating fruits if they really do have those feelings is lame.

If this thread doesn't concern you, why does it affect you so much? Move on.

Furthermore, it's not about looking good necessarily, also that's nice, but to look how you feel.

Pic is Lynn Conway at over 60 years old. She's a fine looking, brillant woman.


 No.297204

Fuck off!

We are boys and we like it that way.

Scum like you allready destroyed /femgen/ you you will not destroy /cuteboys/!


 No.297220

I used to have a lot more sympathy for transsexuals but so many of them seem to be the worst kinds of SJWs. Some of the anti-male rhetoric is disgusting. Who knows if that type of transsexual is in the minority but they sure as hell make it seem like they are the voice of their whole community.


 No.297286

File: 964cc479f1cafe2⋯.png (200.53 KB, 500x281, 500:281, tumblr_m6vf0jGBKS1qde1k3.png)

>>297204

This thread isn't for you.

>>297220

Those are the most vocal ones unfortunately, as in any community. Take the gay world and you have insufferable, ignorant queens like Dan Savage.

Luckily, most people are smart enough to recognize this, perhaps because they've made personal experiences with - in this case - gay people that made it clear those were a minority.

Most trans people want to live quite lives. A lot of trans people appear as the other gender so you wouldn't be able to tell.

If you take someone like Lynn Conway, she's not SJW, made a significant contribution to making the web possible, she just has her website and lives with her husband. Or take pro gamer Scarlett.


 No.297291

File: cc2168578d3a3ed⋯.jpg (28.98 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1464457649384.jpg)

>Wrong body

You have mental disorder, you can't change your sex you were born a man and no amount of body mutilation and pumping your body full of dangerous hormones will change that, either wise the fuck up and come back to reality or buy a straight jacket.


 No.297292

File: 8141988f2be1399⋯.jpg (53.96 KB, 649x865, 649:865, Andrej-Pejic.jpg)

>>297291

I'll answer this assuming that it will benefit someone :

The leading body on the issue is the APA. The APA publishes a manual calle DSM. The DSM's latest edition is V / 5.

They specifically call transgenderism "Gender Dysphoria" not "Disorder" and explain why at great length.

This is pretty much the content of the first paragraphs.

You have to keep in mind that these are the official guidelines used by all medical professionals.

When it comes to treatment, they're very clear in saying that gender disphoria's treatment is transition.

In this context, they recommend hormone therapy and - optionally - sex reassignment surgery (SRS).

There's another misconception :

Transgender people aren't only people who want to be the other gender, but also people who feel between genders.

This is also explained there.


 No.297293

>>297204

are you new to cuteboys


 No.297298

File: 4289d77377e45c4⋯.jpg (65.17 KB, 424x625, 424:625, 1473721062365.jpg)

Sweden please leave.

>>297164

>Likewise, suggesting someone should just run and start eating fruits if they really do have those feelings is lame.

It's realistic is what it is. There's no exactable difference between the feeling of "being in the wrong body" and atypical depression, the former patient's just more gullible or imaginative. People use hormones and transsexualism as an escape, thinking they'll make them more likeable (or at least improve their self-image), but unsurprisingly they usually don't. Now you're dealing with depression and medicated thinking, sky high suicide rates should be expected.

Eat well, exercise, get a hobby, get a group of friends who'll appreciate you as you are, get a therapist and personal trainer to help you with all of that.

>>297292

The DSM's a hug blanket, my man. Gender's fictional and HRT/SRS is self-destructive.


 No.297301

>>297298

The DSM has 20 pages on transgenderism and the other 1000 pages are on a variety of issues that having nothing to do with it.

It's just medical literature that has no other concern - political or otherwise - but to be a guide of best practices.

The pioneer of sexuality studies and gender was a gay man who lived at a time where 1. non-scientific theories were dominant (Freudian explanations of homosexuality as a result of a lack of male role model) 2. you could be arrested and tried for being gay. That person was Magnus Hirschfeld whose center for research was destroyed by the Nazis.

On the flip side, pioneer trans-activists were part of gay communities and fought for the rights of everyone (notably during Stonewall). People like Marsha P. Johnson or Sylvia Rivera.

The real issue is why you take the topic so at heart and have such great energy to spend on misinformation despite not being affected by it, but that's only something you can answer for yourself.


 No.297303

>>297301

>It's just medical literature that has no other concern - political or otherwise - but to be a guide of best practices.

That's completely untrue. The pages are practically written by pharmaceutical companies and proofed in as much part by prevailing public opinion as actual data and research.

More accurately, it's a guide which promotes improving personal wellbeing through large-scale biomedical dependence.

>On the flip side, pioneer trans-activists were part of gay communities and fought for the rights of everyone

The Stonewall argument against boils down to "some of our kind supported the causes of some of yours sixty years ago, so all of you should support all of us now". I don't and it's not relevant to whether or not we should be encouraging transitioning as a legitimate out for depressive youth.

>The real issue is why you take the topic so at heart and have such great energy to spend on misinformation

I could ask you the same thing.


 No.297317

>>297303

I take it seriously because I'm affected by it while the reasons and motivations behind your zeal in trying to argue against the combined research of thousands of MDs remain mysterious.

The fact is that the DSM is the standard of care for transgender people while your opinions are likely to be that of a 20 year old with no relevant degrees and thus no authority to talk about it.

No one has been encouraging "transitioning as a legitimate out for depressive youth", that's just your own unique and baseless theory of transgenderism.

It's also interesting to note that, despite dismissing the DSM as "practically written by pharmaceutical companies", you continue to base your entire argument on depression for which that same manual is the practitioners' guide.

Lastly, your claim that "The pages are practically written by pharmaceutical companies" alone would make your input here hard to take serious. There is a collusion between certain pharmaceutical companies and certain panel members, but 1. correlation doesn't prove causation 2. that correlation varies from section to section, all the way from none at all to 100% ; in the case of the panel on gender identity 2/3 of members have no ties at all and thus those who have are a minority.


 No.297410

>>297317

DSM is open to revision, homosexuality used to be considered a mental disorder.

When enough published data suggests one way or another will determine the classification of transgender in newer editions.

If they find massively high suicide rates post transition then they most likely will change the treatment recommendation.


 No.297422

File: 82c2b435212707b⋯.jpg (47.61 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, oh high.jpg)

>>297160

>>297204

Everyone on here complains that there isn't a containment thread whenever it's brought up in another thread, and even when people post pics in the slut thread with budding tits, not even full blown tits. Here's your containment thread. You want to say it's bad you have the rest of the board to do it in.

That said, this thread isn't for you, it clearly states in the OP it isn't. The people that are here are the ones that would be elsewhere seeking the same if not here, you coming in and saying you like boys and manly men doesn't really mean jack shit if they've already decided to seek professional help.

>>297220

It's the tumblr people mostly, I know plenty (including myself) that are not anti-male in the slightest. I come here to look at cute guys and occasionally post advice.

For all the people arguing medicine: Post your degree or gtfo, noone here is proposing self-med, and I wouldn't mind the OP being edited to specifically counteract that. Leave that decision to the Anons and their doctors rather than posting your claims like you own every cuteboy to ever exist here.


 No.297426

>>297422

no but look, the internet is full of trans spaces, you can go on reddit, /lgbt/, tumblr, susans or whatever, why do you have to colonize more territory on a dead board?? this happens in every place I go to, trans people come in, say ">you're all repressed trannies anyway" and start talking about hrt. just why??


 No.297428

>>297426

You're not the admin fam, if they want to outright ban it they get to decide that. So far the response I've seen from Admin is love and tolerance. They requested spoiler tags in the slut thread for trans peeps in order to avoid confrontation with the people here to see boys only, not because they are against transgender people in general.

On top of that OP did not say that in the slightest, they posted "here is a place to talk about it", and considering any time it's brought up the response is "Make your own thread", don't be so surprised someone finally did.

As far as why here…it's because it's the most popular lgbt board on here that isn't against males. I'm on here because I like boys and dicks, but I'm trans, so idk. Cuteboys is kind of the border town between full feminist central and manly men doing manly things, so it makes sense that people that are inbetween come here. I can understand not wanting it in every thread, but a thread specifically for it isn't really hurting anyone. I doubt the standard "You're all repressed" types are gonna stick around a board with "boys" in the title anyways.


 No.297430

This is /cuteboys/ not /cutementaldisorder/. I'm attracted to boys, not delusional freaks who become disgusting, ugly imitations of women by mutilating themselves.

also:

>sweden

go suck on ahmed's cock, swedefag, after he's done raping your women. He'll treat you like a girl


 No.297432

>>297430

>I'm attracted to boys

If you mean literal prepubescent children, I hope you enjoy the party van.

If you mean males who are post-puberty but who have not experienced "gay death" that comes from 10+ years of natural testosterone poisoning, then what is your problem with this thread?

>not delusional freaks who become disgusting, ugly imitations of women by mutilating themselves.

Genital mutilation has only been brought up in this thread by people like you. It's off-topic for the thread (HRT-focused), and for the whole board, for that matter! (benis-focused)


 No.297450

>>297432

>natural testosterone poisoning

This is what trannies actually believe

>yes goy, not only is gay death a real thing, but moshie's hormone pills can keep it form coming! Don't worry about those side effects, heh heh…


 No.297452

File: f8dbd2c743f92de⋯.jpg (85.66 KB, 960x693, 320:231, b0b3a1cb-e600-43b6-b65b-45….jpg)

Trannies pls go

It was called /cuteboys/ for a reason. You don't even think of yourselves as boys. Are you getting the picture? Shoo.


 No.297455

>>297432

>>297450

What the hell are either of you nigs even talking about?


 No.297456

Amazing how people complain trans are in their gay safe space, and then go into the trans containment thread to complain that trans are in their gay safe space too


 No.297459

Trans anons have always been allowed to have a discussion thread. You don't gotta yell at them. Just ignore them if you don't like it.


 No.297468

>>297428

I'm not the admin, i'm just asking why. everywhere I go this happens, it makes me resent trans people

"trap" is now synonymous with trans

femgen all takes hormones

every crossplay/crossdressing/femboy place becomes a trans/transchaser space before long, and of course they have to be accepting and welcome you, and of course "trap" is now a slur against trans people.

you know what, if you're mtf, I fucking hate you. not because you're trans, but because you're a girl and therefore a normie


 No.297476

File: 845195eb0394d56⋯.jpeg (17.05 KB, 300x300, 1:1, img-thing.jpeg)

>>297410

According to your argument, everything is prone to revision, and thus homosexuality being again considered a mental disorder.

There's no need for speculation, because we already have that data : post-transition/operation rate of regret is about 1-2%, which means that 98% are happy. There's all sorts of studies showing improved well-being post-transition. On the other hand, there's a massive suicide issue with trans teens ie. those who are the most prone to not having received treatment.

>>297426

People are here because they're chan people. Just like you. I could ask you the same about tumblr.

Maybe you should try to concentrate on commonalities instead on focusing on differences.

There's trans-people who love electronics, there's some who are programmers, and others who are really into comics.

Maybe you'd that if you weren't prejudiced.

No one has said "you're all repressed trannies", the thread specifically says that this is for people who are affected by it.

>>297452

Transgender people are people who feel like the other gender or are in-between.

>>297468

I've been here since shortly after the beginning of this board, trans-people have always been a part of it and admin-sama aka. slut-min was/is welcoming of all.


 No.297493

File: 20bc804c3057336⋯.gif (445.23 KB, 500x255, 100:51, cry.gif)

>>297292

>Andrej Pejic went trans and had SRS


 No.297505

>>297459

You've said it over and over again, that this is a board for gay men.

Trannies are men who, instead of coming to terms with who and what they are like the rest of us and become okay with being gay, decide that it's better to dump hormones into their bodies/go under the knife and pretend they're heterosexual women.

They're everything we're not and I hate having to to accept them wherever I go despite them rejecting and spitting on who we are.

>>297476

>admin-sama aka. slut-min was/is welcoming of all

And that was a mistake, because it led to SJW pieces of shit smearing us and calling us pedophiles.


 No.297509

>>297426

I agree with this post. So many communities for trans. Even /lgbt/ is mostly trans now. /trap/ is all trans even though that's seen as a slur. Why here too? Is it a challenge? I remember when /femgen/ was just crossdressers and no hormones, now it's equivalent to /mtfg/. I've seen kageshi's cuteboys chatroom go mostly trans. I've seen the gay discord go mostly sjw and trans talk. Please, why here too, why us?

t. GID sufferer who accepts being male and wants a place for males too.


 No.297523

File: 51cd5b0452245ab⋯.gif (23.25 KB, 500x250, 2:1, No-6-Nezumi-Rat-x-Shion-fi….gif)

>>297493

It would be more accurate to say that she was trans all the way, but played the "androgynous" card - partly at least due to pressures coming from the industry.

>>297505

You forget that there's trans-women who like women exclusively, so your argument doesn't stand.

No one's rejecting you. You can choose to be prejudiced of course, that's not illegal, but it's particularly salient coming from a gay person all things considered.


 No.297533

File: 71db7f5b5b2ffa8⋯.png (492.99 KB, 900x655, 180:131, The More You Know.png)

>>297505

>Trannies are men who, instead of coming to terms with who and what they are like the rest of us and become okay with being gay,

Only some transwomen are into men. It depends; there's a theory out there stating there are two kinds of transwomen, we might call them Type A and Type B.

Type A transwomen are effeminate men, usually with a pre-existing hormone imbalance making them androgynous. They are usually attracted to men and would be effeminate gay men if they didn't transition, but in some or even many cases, they would actually have an easier time socially if they were simply treated as women, because functionally they check most of the boxes for females anyways and have a harder time as men. Passing is the goal here. Passing transwomen are almost always of this type.

Type B transwomen usually transition later and are not effeminate physically. They are usually attracted to women and not to men, and are functional straight men up until their transition point. They do not pass, and do not seek to pass. The point is to become female in itself; the goal seems to be a more inherent assertion of an inward feeling of being female. These are the types of transwomen who are going to get triggered more often, be more easily offended, have more problems with cis men, etc, becase they have such negative associations with cis men and want nothing to do with them.

What I've noticed–and this is based on observation of my own rather than scientific study, although I'd be very curious to see the studies on this–is that even if these are two broad generalizations and not specific to every transwoman, more often than not this is the case. Transwomen who truly pass, or who can be quite attractive and work with what they have, tend to be the most socially well-adjusted, rational, etc. Plenty of these types seem to be pansexual although certainly more of them are interested in men than type B, and vice versa. Non-passing transwomen who transitioned quite late in life are more threatened by their inability to pass and much more interested in integrating themselves as much as possible into the lesbian and radical feminist worlds. Asserting their femininity becomes a constant requirement unless they are among themselves and their specific communities.


 No.297534

>>297505

>They're everything we're not

Many of them who are on the fence are near-indistinguishable from some of the more androgynous cuteboys, especially those who crossdress regularly for fun.

>I hate having to to accept them wherever I go despite them rejecting and spitting on who we are.

You have to tolerate them, not accept them, acceptance is different. If you tolerate something, you don't like it but you put up with it, and that's fine. Accepting something is more like processing it and coming to terms with it, and you are under no obligation to come to more terms with transwomen than necessary, it just confers a social benefit to do so.

>it led to SJW pieces of shit smearing us and calling us pedophiles.

In Admin's defense, that happened on sites other than 8chan and there was nothing he could really do to stop them from calling us pedophiles. If someone is so fucked in the head that they're hell-bent on making everyone on 8chan out to be monstrous and worthy of legal intervention, they can easily find a way, but you just have to assume that they're going to do that, that's not Admin's fault.


 No.297538

File: 193edc6baa02293⋯.jpg (317.14 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, Anime-Angry-Girl.jpg)

>>297533

First 3 paragraphs are what the DSM says, it's not perfect but it's a working model.

I used to live as a heterosexual guy, so I had none of the stigma attached with being gay nor did I have anything against gay people, it just wasn't a part of my world.

I'm not involved into any "activist" stuff, I don't identify with the lesbian label. I have my own set of opinion that being said which may not align with the average -get-his-political-opinions-from-memes channer, but that's all well and fine. My mind is super androgynous… That's the best I can do to describe it. I genuinely will be drawn to what is traditionally considered women's things. My interest in women is still there and I would want one as a life partner ideally. I genuinely just can't make it work as a guy anymore, I'm like a robot who keeps malfunctioning and exhibiting human behavior.

A friend of mine lived a gay guy for a short while before transitioning. Now she's super hot and indistinguishable for any girl - in looks / mannerism. She's mostly into men, with some degree of flexibility.

I'm still on the fence about guys. A lot of them are unbearably manly for me. But take someone like Robin who seems to have a really good personality or NY-tan for that matter, and I'm getting doubts. I think I could see myself with either.


 No.297555

File: 01d9c45fd67ddd6⋯.jpg (103.77 KB, 950x1144, 475:572, 1473746218107.jpg)

I didnt read this thread because it just looks like shitposting but I take hormones, but I identify as a guy. I'm cuter than all of you.


 No.297567

>>297164

>sweden

This board has the word boy in it. Get out if you feel like otherwise.

Also how is exercise and dieting sick, compared to filling your body with nasty hormones, and letting fat store so you feel like a female, which you aren't and will never be.


 No.297579

>>297204

>>297220

holy shit guys, judge individual basis only please, OP never had a fucking chance


 No.297580

>>297533

you cant assume everyone fits into two categories


 No.297742

>>297580

Well, not neatly, they're more like very general trends. Also, it's not my theory. I didn't come up with it. I didn't collect evidence to support it, or to differentiate between types of gender dysphoria, etc. I'm simply giving an outline of a model for addressing it.


 No.298002

Why is it impossible to have an actual conversation about moans?


 No.298003

>>297152

Fucking Sweden.


 No.298011

File: 62b68602c0ece02⋯.jpg (423.25 KB, 960x1440, 2:3, scarletthart2.bw_.012.jpg)

File: 41dcb133da30eaf⋯.gif (482.15 KB, 479x270, 479:270, tumblr_lqcvew0ywk1qaeynmo1….gif)

>>298002

because they got triggered and their female hormones made them emotional


 No.299576

>>297152

are you taking estrogen as well as spiro anon?


 No.299620


 No.315210

>>297164

>shill


 No.315308

File: ae858bd4a3e1100⋯.jpeg (8.04 KB, 306x165, 102:55, cute on purpose.jpeg)

>>299576

Yeah. A large does of anti-androgens and a small amount of estrogen simply because you have to compensate somehow.

I've had success with QHI : you can order from any country ever.

I basically look like a young David Bowie, have small breasts and am very skinny.

I get a lot of looks but I live in a big city so no one cares too much.


 No.345090

>>297152

>ITT qts who feel in the wrong body can post about their feelings

Or they can go to a board that isn't for boys?

>safely

Go to Tumblr if you want some kind of fucking "safe space".


 No.345091

>>297164

>If this thread doesn't concern you, why does it affect you so much?

Because the existence of this threads gives the impression that trannies are welcome here.


 No.345094

>>297286

>This thread isn't for you.

This board isn't for you.




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