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File: 801c3aa0a80cece⋯.jpg (1.1 MB, 1417x2027, 1417:2027, Thor_Ragnarok_French_Chara….jpg)

 No.993849

I'm watching the movie now, and I have to say.

There is something about this writing. The tone feels really off, and I'm not sure why. I think it might be the jokes but it just lacks the tension the other films did.

What did you think of this?

 No.993857

>>993849

>What did you think of this?

The tone is completely different from the other Thor movies but I don't think it's a super radical change overall in the MCU

thought it was fine, at the end of the day it is just a capeshit film and I'm not looking for some deep experience out of it


 No.993861

>>993849

The tone is better, in a way, because it has more fun with a very silly character. The setting is good. The characters (minus the alcoholic valkyrie) aren't bad. The overall plot is more engaging than the last two movies.. But the writing is all kinds of shit. Waititi's brand of humor is love it or hate it, and most normalfags love it. I hate it. All the awkward stuttering and clumsiness gets tiresome once you notice that every single fucking character is written with the same sort of style. None of them are humorous in their own way, every single joke is just fumbling over bad dialog and falling down and characters getting prideful and puffing themselves up moments before they take a 180 and get humiliated.

The villainess is also pretty shit, though I do like the twist on the Asgardians being hypocritical dickbags. The final twist at the end is moronic, too.. But Thor Captaining a spaceship of ragtag aliens and Asgardian warriors would be a fun movie if you took the creative team from this movie and hired a different writer/director.


 No.993866

File: bbfaf47ed518e8a⋯.png (53.08 KB, 866x475, 866:475, 1509046830882.png)

>>993849

How about you go back to reddit and ask them kid.


 No.993872

File: 9d9609cf21435b6⋯.jpg (95.41 KB, 559x570, 559:570, wrong.JPG)

>turning Planet hulk into a cheesy 80's buddy space cop flick

>turning a norse god into a soy boy spouting bullshit (wow you're a valkyrie, great, about time!)

>nigger valkyrie

>red king stuttering like a kike in Independence Day

>all that bullshit trying to be juggled between a haha lolsorandumb alien gladiator hijinks and the personification of death

It's like some kind of a bastard rape child of Wander over Yonder and Event Horizon.

This is your entertainment on jews.

>reddit spacing

this is your brains on reddit


 No.993889

It wanted the Guardians audience. Overall, I enjoyed it, but I'm a sucker for anything with colourful alien planets.


 No.993892

The biggest problem with the movie was how it changed Thor's personality and made him the butt of all the jokes. Having him playing straight man to all the shennanigans would have worked perfectely well, but in the first half of the movie was people jerking Thor around and him being a bitch. He gets jerked around by Strange Which was actually funny and then procceds to get beaten around for slapstick comedy, and screams like a bitch at multiple times because Thor screaming like a girl is apparently the zenith of comedy. For instance, the scene where Thor is in the chair and he freaks out and screams, it would have been way funnier and more in character, if Thor was so unfazed by the chair, that the bad guys weren't sure if it was working. Have him strap in a mook, who dies of a heart attack because he's so freaked out.

The way the movie treats it's heroes is fucking horrific in all honesty. When Bruce jumps out of the ship at the end, that might have been the most dramatic and heroic moment in the entire MCU. Banner was under the belief he was basically killing himself by brinking the Hulk out. He didn't think he would come back from it. And we aren't allowed standalone Hulk movies. This was literally his big, giant, shining moment in the MCU, and we got that dumb fucking "splat" joke, which not only shit on Bruce's sacrifice, it also flew in the face of continuity. It had been clearly established over multiple movies that the Hulk will come out no matter what if Banner thinks he's about to die. And they shit all over that for one of the most predictable jokes I've ever seen.

>>993861

I didn't hate the humor, but the humor refused to let me appreciate the movie. By the halfway point of the movie, I was literally thinking, "That joke would have been funny if he hadn't put in those 20 jokes before now.


 No.993893

File: 5d3807f4360b906⋯.png (17.89 KB, 240x200, 6:5, 1451710352177.png)


 No.993894

File: 4f904dd9ce4e672⋯.png (357.41 KB, 898x765, 898:765, Penn_Jillette_on_Religion_….png)

>>993893

>7 lines

>novel

>>>/reddit/


 No.993902

>>993894

Reddit?

Obviously, he didn't.

BADOOM CHING


 No.993906

>>993892

>When Bruce jumps out of the ship at the end, that might have been the most dramatic and heroic moment in the entire MCU.

This is the biggest missed opportunity in a movie filled with missed opportunities. It's clear the kiwi fag who directed the movie couldn't take a break from jokes undercutting any tension or drama out of fear of being serious with silly material. Even GotG, which has a bad of habit of doing that too, knows to turn that down every now and then.


 No.993913

In my opinion the main problem was that it still took itself too seriously. Really, I gave no fucks about whatever was happening at Aasgard and I just wanted to see more Thor, Hulk and Great Master shenanigans. All in all it felt as if the director wanted to do a silly comedy and the Marvel suits begged him to add muh epicness.


 No.993914

>>993866

I press twice because on f-list it's easier to separate paragraphs visually with a double space since they don't have indentations.


 No.993941

The tone is off because marvel doesn't hire writers or directors worth any kind of shit


 No.993957

>>993914

>F-List

I honestly can't decide if that's equivalent or even worse.

Post your profile faggot


 No.993965

>>993849

It's the jokes ruining really serious situations.

The conversation joke, when Thor was hanging on that chain, I was like "Oh god I hope the whole movie won't be like that." And later, his space sidekicks are comedic reliefs on cringe/ Portal levels. Humor for autists who keep shouting the worst jokes because all other jokes are too deep. It's the spider pig demographic.

But overall, the movie was way more entertaining and unique in style compared to the other Thor movies. And Marvel should use more awesome classic rock, but they barely do, even when Iron Man shows up.


 No.994465

>>993849

It made me wish I could fast forward through the Planet Hulk bits, which I thought was impossible.

Seriously, Waitawhatshisface somehow managed to make the entire Sakaar section so unbearably boring that I actually ended up falling asleep and missed about three quarters of the movie. Considering how shit the rest of it was, I kinda wished I'd stayed asleep until the end.


 No.994466

>>993965

The entire film was "SUPER SERIOUS FEEL THIS MOMENT" and someone dropping a joke either during or after and it falling flat every single time. The worst I remember is the ending with the fucking "oh it could be worse you can rebuild" and then the planet explodes and the gladiator makes another jokes. A fucking planet just exploded after most of the people on it died or barely escaped. You need better comedy to lighten that fucking mood then something that'd be rejected out of hand by any sane writer as being too fucking obvious and retarded.


 No.994475

File: fbb2fe105b2e323⋯.jpg (200.73 KB, 649x1232, 59:112, 20180520.jpg)

>>994466

Thor Rag wants its cake and to eat it too


 No.994498

I liked Korg.


 No.994660

>>994475

Is it a six legged horse?


 No.994745

>>993892

>>993892

Valkyrie would not have been that bad if it was her who sacrificed herself to avenge other Valkyries and to redeem herself after abandoning Asgard. Instead, it is Karl Urban who does it, even though it makes little sense for the character, since he didn't do anything bad other than just hang around with the Villain for a bit.


 No.994789

>>994745

Something something LGBT Women of Color something something


 No.995326

The problem was it being a dumb movie with dumb jokes. The Surtur opening - minus the chain swinging - was more interesting than the GotG carbon copy they took the movie to, at least to me. Odin sat around in plain clothes acting like Jonathan Kent which felt extremely unfit for an All-Father, and the whole Ragnarok theme was treated very lightly when it is essentially the Norse version of Hamlet where a large portion of the Norse Gods - including Thor - die.

Amidst all of that they smattered a pile of sex and dick jokes (Devil's Anus, orgy ships, Hulk dick, bug egg/poop) so they could pretend they were mature and called it a day. Frankly I thought the whole film besides (ironically) Jeff Goldblum was an abortion.


 No.995371

>>995326

>>993892

You anons are both spot on. Not that the MCU has ever produced any cinematic masterpieces per se, but this was definitely the low point of everything they've put out.


 No.1004944

File: d1c79ddbf71f6eb⋯.jpg (774 KB, 1000x714, 500:357, thoradbyWaltSimonson.jpg)

>alcoholic slaver is alright because she's a woman of colour

>slave rebellion reduced to university organising humour

>Loki's daughter, goddess of death, is reduced to Asgardian MAGA, and his forgotten sister

What could be wrong with the tone?

But honestly, the movie was dealt a bad hand from the start. Remember how Thor managed to be entertaining through pure force of personality of some of its actors. They made Jane Foster into "I luv da science" generic girl. Which means the aspect of going into danger, and saving lives, is ripped from the character. Thor: The Dark World was boned because they had the poor earth characters inherited from the first film, when it needed to be pure space adventure. It also didn't help that Malekith was best using The Casket of Ancient Winters. And not some weird set up for Infinity War.

They couldn't lean into classic Thor, because there were aspects that just too cheesy for modern audiences. Walt Simonson Thor is out, because it reinvented the character from those aspects, and leaned into the good aspects of all the characters. They couldn't do the most famous recent run, because it effectively is building on decades of space adventures, and gods, as well as focusing on different periods in Thor's life.

And so, they hired a quirky comedy director that they told could do whatever he wanted. Provided it fits in the MCU. Ragnarok to me is wasted potential personified. Planet Hulk is out until the eventual reboot of the MCU. At least Thor was able to be heroic for the sake of being heroic. And the Hulk kicked some ass. And some of the villains were able to ham it up in a fun way. It could be a lot worse. It could have been on par with the Justice League movie.


 No.1004947

The movie was pretty bad at overusing gags instead of tension or cool moments.

One scene that especially bothered me was when Thor covered his eyes at seeing hulk naked, it goes against his characterization for a couple of laughs. He's supposed to be some sort of jock (and he's like 1000 years old), I'm sure he's seen his share. He should have just taken it in stride. A surprised blink or two would've been enough to be both funny and keep his character consistent.

I did enjoy the movie though. Great visuals and there were cool moments (and some good humour). Ruffalo can't act at all, but it didn't bother me too much, it was supposed to be cheesy i think


 No.1004966

>>995326

>The Surtur opening - minus the chain swinging - was more interesting than the GotG carbon copy they took the movie to, at least to me

Fucking this. Thor being full of himself and beating the shit out of bad guys? Great. That's what the whole movie should have been. That's what I thought I was going to get instead of a worse GotG.


 No.1005054

File: 8dc0a35ad50a34a⋯.png (1.33 MB, 771x975, 257:325, ClipboardImage.png)

Was Hela overdubbed? Or did they use too much CGI to cover up the actresses aging?


 No.1005058

>>993965

>spider pig

Please don't mention that evil ever again.


 No.1005059

File: 183a4971566142b⋯.jpg (20.26 KB, 325x488, 325:488, stolen costume.jpg)

>>993965

>spider pig

you mean spider nig?


 No.1005060

>>993892

> By the halfway point of the movie, I was literally thinking, "That joke would have been funny if he hadn't put in those 20 jokes before now.

The movie trips itself up by constantly needing to put in some kind of joke or awkward moment. Like you said, had they not barraged the audience with awkward dialog and bumbling clumsiness and sit-com style humor that just needed a laugh track to complete the illusion, some of the moments would have been genuinely funny. Instead, you can't have a single scene that doesn't have some kind of quip or gag. You can't have Bruce Banner making the most serious sacrifice of his entire life, possibly never un-hulking forever, without him falling flat on his face and then going Hulk off screen, because that's somehow better than having a goddamned serious moment.


 No.1005061

>>993849

The thor movies are the worst marvel movies, hemsworth is a decent enough actor.


 No.1006571

>>993872

planet hulk sucked




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