/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

This is for CBR being a dumpster fire turned forest fire.

Why is a comic book brand threatening to sue Canberra?

I mean all good for them but still

>>1019842

>Creators' well being

>"I need to block 50,000 people because one of them said a mean thing"

>>1019846

I'm sorry that not every comic creator wants to debate newfag trolls.

>>1019846

>"I need to block 50,000 people because one of them follow someone I hate"

ftfy

Gail Simone and Mark Waid has talked shit about Alterna comics, so Alterna did nothing wrong.

>>1019846

>>1019870

Forgetting for a moment that 99% of this shit has to do with Ethan and Richie, should employers regulate what you do on your personal twitter account? Do they have the right to use your internet presence as an arm of their public relations/advertising?

Alterna is losing quite a bit of talent over this, and apparently the code of conduct wasn't included in the contracts many of them signed. It was only after others brought the code to light did Alterna make it public.

>>1019879

[Citation Needed]

>>1019880

>[Citation Needed]

Charles C Dowd, creator of Lilth Dark, has severed ties with Alterna Comics

https://archive.fo/oxrdz

Jeremy Massie parts ways with Alterna Comics

https://archive.fo/ubW81

Sleepships creative team severs ties with Alterna Comics

https://archive.fo/cTUPd

Broken Bear creative team severs ties with Alterna Comics

https://archive.fo/NHNhQ

>>1019882

So you're saying everyone should be subjected to your opinion?

>>1019811

Get outta here CS Goto.

>>1019885

Not what I said, but thanks for proving my suspicions.

>>1019884

>tweets from backstabbers and those that want to keep using block bots at will

>>1019882

Thanks for ignoring my point, and confirming that this is complete comicsgate crap.

>>1019891

>they follow someone I hate but never said anything to me?

>TO THE GULAG

I just want the American comics industry to burn down to the ground and this comics gate shit seems to be accelerating it, so I'm all for it.

>>1019895

It's funny, it hasn't got one tenth the fire or fury of GG, but it sure seems to be actually affecting industry insiders way more than GG ever did. The fact that I see legit shilling against comicsgate here when this board has never been the least bit interested in following it is very telling.

>>1019896

That is because comic book companies are not really that big and producing comics are not really that expensive nor requieres that much time like big videogames do, every change is going to have a consequence.

>>1019897

they're pathetically small for something with such a large cultural impact. They can't even blame it on the medium because manga is doing much better despite being nearly the same thing.

>>1019897

This. Look at how many comics are sold monthly, even Batman can barely break 50K, so if a chunk of people stop buying all together, then either company could die quickly.

>>1019896

>seems to be effecting industry insiders

Comics are in a bad place right now and comicsgate fags are the scapegoat. It doesn't help that the defining triat of comicsgate is trolling and a completely casual understanding of comics.

What's sad is that comicsgate hasn't accomplished anything despite their boasting. Both of the major figures have faced massive set-backs, with Richie protecting his tweets and Ethan being basically blacklisted from the industry for telling a depressed person to kill themselves and getting into a public fight with Darwyn Cooke's widow.

>>1019899

>Look at how many comics are sold monthly, even Batman can barely break 50K, so if a chunk of people stop buying all together, then either company could die quickly.

And there's the casual-tier shit I was talking about.

Not only did Batman sell over 400,000 units in July, but the idea that a chunk of people could kill either DC or Marvel by just not buying comics is absurd. Comics are a direct market. The shops buy the books, and fans buy the books from the shops. Fans not buying the books only hurts the shops, not the Big Two.

>>1019899

>so if a chunk of people stop buying all together, then either company could die quickly.

You can't drop what you aren't buying.

>>1019902

>Fans not buying the books only hurts the shops, not the Big Two.

If fans don't buy the books, shops close (what was it, 50 last year and 17 this year so far?) and the Big Two lose sales. C'mon, this isn't rocket science.

>>1019905

>>1019906

They're Diamond numbers, you ignoramus.

https://archive.fo/RcADl

>>1019912

There are 2,306 comic shops in North America according to Diamond in 2016. The fifty closed isn't that much, and we don't have the shop opening data to contrast against.

However, that's irrelevant, since nobody here buys comics and the plan would rely on people currently buying books from shops to stop buying. That's something that won't happen, seeing as DC and Marvel have gotten their acts together recently and comicsgate continues to have a terrible reputation.

>>1019919

“There are 2,306 comic shops in North America according to Diamond in 2016.”

How many of those are de facto toy stores? There isn’t one left in my area that isn’t 80% Japanese tchotchkes. Plus they do double duty as community centers for Pokémon and wargaming gaming nerds.

>>1019953

could you pot the edit and screenshots of him bitching?

>>1019950

Just assume all of them. Comic shops have to diversify if they want to survive.

>>1019879

>should employers regulate what you do on your personal twitter account? Do they have the right to use your internet presence as an arm of their public relations/advertising?

I can't find the article, but a while back it was revealed that Marvel had a clause in their contracts that kept you from speaking ill of them even long after you stopped working for them. I remember it was revealed when an older writer came back to write an intro for a collection and noticed the clause, but I can't for the life of me remember the writer or the character. That was some really fucked up thing that just kind of came and went without much fuss.

>>1019967

https://archive.fo/7Cs1Z

That was Scott Edelman in 2015. Marvel hired him to write an essay for one of their Captain Marvel collections and they included a "no criticism ever" clause in his contract. Marvel explained to Edelman that it was to "keep old creators from getting mad at them" and they removed the clause from his contract.

That you can file with all the other underhanded shit The Big Two have done over the years. Things like Marvel holding original art hostage in a shitty apartment in hell's kitchen and DC making Jerry Siegel sign a contract forbidding him from saying he was the creator of Superman.

>>1019996

You clearly haven't been here long enough. Marvel nearly had the shops rioting against them last year, and DC reached their nadir in 2016. Then they turned themselves around and crushed my dreams of an industry wide collapse.

>>1020037

>Vox

Well that's your problem.

>>1020040

EVS' fans trolled his stream earlier.

>>1020037

>Vox Day

This faggot needs to jump off a building already.

>>1020043

They have no-one to blame but themselves.

>>1020048

Vox got BTFO.

>>1020045

Same shit as GG, oh lord!

>>1020037

EVS mentioned he has the trademark to CG and his Cyberfrog because VOX wanted to use it for his purposes.

>>1019885

>using a block bot instead of a simple mute or blocking individuals

Are you some soyfaggot?

>>1020061

<let me just tell you how your industry works

Fuck off, casual.

>>1020085

If that were true, Vox wouldn't be making an imprint.

>>1020088

Not unless evs can invalidate it for prior use.

>>1020090

I have a feeling it's going to go the way of Richie's tort lawsuit against Mark Waid: a lot of bluster and threats, but no action.

>>1019879

>should employers regulate what you do on your personal twitter account?

yes

>Do they have the right to use your internet presence as an arm of their public relations/advertising?

yes

>>1020082

>Same shit as GG, oh lord!

GG was never copyrighted, that's the difference.

>>1019857

You can block them individually, not enmasse via a blocklist. -__-

>>1020175

>-__-

Hey /tv/

>>1019879

>Forgetting for a moment that 99% of this shit has to do with Ethan and Richie, should employers regulate what you do on your personal twitter account? Do they have the right to use your internet presence as an arm of their public relations/advertising?

Depends. If you use your association with them to promote yourself, then they have some say in it. If you are just generic guy with an independent audience on the side, then no.

>>1020100

>implying unlike d&c he doesn't have money and a steady revenue stream to mount a legal challenge

Do we hate Alterna comics or something? From what I saw when I did some looking into them they seemed pretty cool. Their selection is obviously a mixed bag by virtue of their publishing process but their policies seemed really creator-friendly to me.

>>1020234

From the look of it the only people that hate them are blue haired land whales, soyboys, and the big two dicksuckers/shills.

>>1020234

>>1020237

<buy my comics, goy

>>1020257

You'll never work for marvel no matter how much you suck their balls.

>>1020263

>Assumes Marvel is behind everything

Is this /co/'s version of the Jews?

>>1019981

Thanks, anon.

>>1020234

Near as I can tell, they just make cheap comics on low quality paper. They first caught shit because the retweeted some people who bought their books who also used a CG related hashtag. And when this was pointed out they committed their greatest sin, they didn't shit on the the CG tards, which of course meant they were CG. Then they made the rule about social media and the anti-CG really lost their shit. They haven't done anything worthy of attention but have got it due to faggots being faggots on twitter.

>>1020270

No he's just a shitposter.

>>1020234

>Do we hate Alterna comics or something?

What the fuck do you mean by "we"? How fucking new are you faggot?

>>1020296

The only thing that got them in the spotlight was that comic 'Metaphase' which was about a kid with down syndrome who got superpowers. There were sites parading it around for a few weeks about how it was so good they made a comic about that subject, also the writer did it for his son who has downs. They rode the train for months though and kept posting up about 'REMEMBER HOW WE MADE THIS OH SO SPECIAL COMIC?!'

>>1020234

Well, I don't like them for the reasons stated above.

>>1019953

>>1019983

Alterna's social media policy and their failure to denounce comicsgate was just abysmally bad business, which seems to be a running theme with Alterna considering they inked a distribution deal with Toys-R-Us a year before they went bankrupt.

As much as Comicsgate and GamerGate seemed like good ideas, the lack of long-term cohesion guaranteed that they'd devolve into a state identical to that of modern politics, where the debate is not truly about the policies (in "gate" cases, ethics) of either side, but about which side itself "wins" or "is right", completely ignoring the original reason for the conceptualization in the first place. It's sad, but I guess idealogical movements aren't compatible with the short attention span of the Internet.

>>1020372

Lack of cohesion was definitely a problem. Not being able to really pin much on the press outside of ideological corruption was one of the other big hurdles that they never truly got over. Even if everyone who hopped on the GG wagon said "this cultural marxist ideology they are pushing on gaming is a cancerous road to ruin and here's why" it wouldn't stick. The press would play dumb, insist that GG was being hyperbolic, and then declare that all they really want are nice things, like inclusion and an end to all meany-head racists and doo-doo brained sexists. Nevermind that moments later, they'd likely write an article about how all straight white men need to shut up forever and kill themselves step back so the womyn and POCs could speak.

Look what happened when they got accused of corruption and shitty journalism

>games journalism investigates the claim that games journalists are biased and bad at their jobs, find no evidence to support that claim

>gamers don't have to be your audience, gamers are dead.

>>1019857

/co/ is getting worse and worse everyday thanks to faggots like this. The moderation is going to shit too with all the thread deletions.

>>1020372

Whether GG or CG, the initial uniting aspect is a distaste for a far-left ideology and how blatantly and shittily it's being forced on the audience. Any force uniting out of that is going to range from left-of-center to 14/88 types. That alone ensures cohesion is a hard hill to climb. Just looking at CG, you can see that some people wanted politics out of comics all together and others just wanted left politics out, but were okay with right politics.

The media will always go after this aspect. They'll hold up the worst and make the rest answer for it. They'll push away the moderates first and eventually get the point that only the most extreme or autistic are left. But since they control who gets the soapbox, no one can make them answer for their own worst. If Robbi Rodriguez did send pics of his or anyone's asshole to EVS or other CG spergs, that would be legit sexual harassment for anyone else. But Marvel and DC aren't being asked about it nor does it appear he's going to lose any jobs over it. No one is going to write articles pointing out other anti-CG faggots supporting him. But you better believe that anyone involved in CG will have to answer for that nigger Vox Day.

Peter hosted a three hour live chat about the company, thanks a lot of people for their support during the sjw swarm.

I don't understand how arguing against the use of block-bots is considered sacrilege when even politicians are getting shat on for using them and Twitter itself gets shit for its poor moderation.

>>1020424

>I imagine a lot of people IRL have been thinking the same kind of things about the big two, but didn't want to say anything lest they lose any "nerd" cred over it.

No, they're just stupid. Most comic fans can't fathom that all the events, character changes, and new books coming out are just sales gimmicks.

>>1020500

>I still have no clue what they're on about.

It doesn't take a genius to figure it out, basically just a bunch of random fucks got together to basically decry sjw bullshit in comics. The difference being unlike gg that started on imageboards, cg started with YouTube ecelebs and twitter autists, one of them being a prominent comicbook artist actually doing/making shit. Their problem is the sites they use automatically gives them a form of public identity compared to the anonymous nature of imageboards, making them easier to ridicule. Many of them are making their own product and so far have done it pretty well and have delivered on time, Vox day basically fucked everything up by slapping cg everywhere (while copyrighting it) when everyone else tried to keep their creations independent. Another problem is when compared to vidya no one really cares about comics and have gotten used to it from decades of abuse. So yeah cg got issues but hitting Vox day with a bat (his politics has nothing to do with it, its the fact he tried copyrighting shit and slapping cg on his merchandise like a cringey autist is the issue) was a necessary move.

>>1020500

> Remember late in gamergate when the whole "ethics in journalism" shit was dropped in favor of making lefties miserable

That was mostly the sa goons from /ggrevolt/ after they got banished to endchan. You should've seen it, back around 2016 after they were kicked they went on pure shitposting spree on /v/, im talking /sudo/ levels of cancer. Sage for meta.

>>1020504

>basically just a bunch of random fucks got together to basically decry sjw bullshit in comics

That's not completely true, though. None of them keep track of comics well enough justify their outrage. I've seen a lot of them bring up comics that were cancelled years ago and acting like they're still being published.

Another thing is that their movement seems to focus more on weak targets, such as comic shops and small publishers, than making any real attempts at tackling the Big Two.

Cg is recommending that buyers dump all their dc/marvel books and buy up alterna.

>>1020515

>such as comic shops and small publishers, than making any real attempts at tackling the Big Two.

Ill repeat again, they're made up of YouTube and Twitter users, take that as you will. Plus they do comment on the big two but the revenue source are the shops and small publishers can change before jumping off a cliff.

>>1020500

>Penchant for harassment

Are you a goon or something?

>>1020522

He probably is.

>>1020517

Oh really? I haven't seen that at all. I still see D&C retweeting MoveTehNeedle posts of people who throw Marvel and DC comics into their haul pics. It's cringe-inducing. They do this even for books whose creators call them Nazis and call for their suppression. Has this changed in the last day? I doubt it. And last I knew EVS was still going out of his way on his livestreams to say things like "Well I respect Bill Sinkeveich! Well I'm friends with Dan Slott–I would consider him a friend! Well I still want to talk with Heather Antos" etc.

Their followers are SLOWLY, BARELY coming around to the obvious conclusion they should have reached at least a year ago, which is a ruthless boycott of the Big Two and Image, and they are only SLOWLY, BARELY coming around to that, SOME OF THEM, because the corporate trash creators themselves are doing everything in their power to lose them as customers. But they're still not really there or on the same page.

>>1020520

>revenue source are the shops and small publishers can change before jumping off a cliff

Any LCS with even one braincell started weening themselves off of new weekly comic books years ago. At this point every remotely sane shop gets most of its revenue from games (card and board), collectible chotzkies, and/or high-priced back issues of the sort that have been skyrocketing for the past decade due primarily to the movies.

Every type of store that isn't already on this model deserves to die, and most of them who weren't on this model have already gone out of business.

Every shop I know of that tried to spotlight Marvel's "diverse" characters, or talk up events like Secret Empire, or try to push indie trash like Bitch Planet as a revenue stream, have gone out of business, deservedly so.

A major "jumping off a cliff"/shock-to-the-system moment is the ONLY thing that would cause reform of the direct market for comics, which is the underlying cause of everything. This current route of slow demise over a decade+ is what's giving Diamond and Marvel in particular enough "it's not that bad" wiggle-room to keep up their ridiculous practices as they hold the industry hostage.

>>1020521

They publish anything as long as you hit your deadlines. You literally just send them your shit and they stamp it on some newspaper books.

>>1020527

>Every shop I know of that tried to spotlight Marvel's "diverse" characters, or talk up events like Secret Empire, or try to push indie trash like Bitch Planet as a revenue stream, have gone out of business, deservedly so.

The thing that killed the sjw shit in Marvel was Marvel flooding the market with it. They thought the normies that bought the early shit would love to buy 50 fucking issues a month.

>tfw watching vox day getting btfo

>marvel still a shitshow

>>1020689

I'm starting to think that the above anon is that faggot renfemous from twitter.

>>1020703

Well, this all stememd because a guest on EVS' show claimed that Darwyn Cooke would have been part of comicsgate, based on his attitude to forcing diversity into comics and changing characters for diversity reasons. So this goes back to his widow, probably from an sjw snitch, and she gets her vagina all sandy and bitches at EVS.

So EVS asks his fans to leave her alone, but says, correctly, that sjw's should apologize as they started this shit.

But I'm sure you'll dismiss it and claim some other bullshit, Renfamous.

>>1020762

Gee, that didn't dispute my claim. Also, let's what he says about the state of comics when he was still alive in 2011. Oh gee, he sounds like those Nazi's like EVS and D&C.

Please go away Renfamous.

>>1020764

So you're saying his widow didn't know him.

>>1020773

You, as a complete stranger who has never spoken to Cooke, claim to know better than the woman he shared his life with.

How insultingly deluded of you.

>>1020777

>video proof of his views straight from his moutn

>his wife knows him better!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you please start a fire and die in it?

>>1020551

>Names and workplace.

He posted stores you autist. Why are you this mad about comicsgate anyway. It is just a random group of people that are their own market. Getting this mad about them and actively saying it is a good thing that they can't publish their work makes you look like some big two dicksucking faggot.

I still have to wonder why so many people sperg out about comicsgate over the fact that it just exists. You have people who just do their own thing or criticize comics, and everyone acts like they are turbo nazis. You have people even defending that one faggot who kept posting pictures of his asshole and dick to anyone who disagreed with him because it is apparently harassment to call him an asshole for doing that. You have big names doing everything to stop people that they consider to be a super small minority while shitting on even their own fans out of paranoia.

>>1020786

It's melissa mourge, some sperg from twitter that does nothing but attacks evs and d&c. They post on here and on cuckchan with the same bullshit and defends the big 2 like crazy.

>>1020703

Putting aside you originally said he "refused to tell his followers to stop harassing her" when he said to be nice to her.

Logic is a thing, too.

>some CG faggot says Cooke would have supported them

>Cooke's widow says no and insults a bunch of the spergs

>the spregs talk shit back

<help, help I'm being harassed

>EVS says no one knew Cooke like she did and encourages people to be nice to her

>for some reason she thinks EVS can and should make people apologize to her

CG is full of dummies, but that bitch was acting like an idiot herself. Of all the things you can lay at EVS' feet, this ain't one of them. She kicked the tism hornet nest and is bitching that she's not being apologized to by people she's probably blocked.

>>1020764

Capefags truly are a cancer on this industry.

>>1020787

Comicsgate exists mainly because so-called professional comic writers, artists, and editors let a few youtubers get under their skin. Nothing would happen if they just ignored people like Diversity and Comics. They did not say anything people didn't say for years on forums and image boards. People like Waid, Visaggio, and others keep choosing the worst possible course of action. Only thing they do is make themselves look like idiots and escalate the conflict further.

>>1020791

>Putting aside you originally said he "refused to tell his followers to stop harassing her" when he said to be nice to her.

Even that does not do shit. I do not follow this who shitshow closely, but I bet that Van Scriver was accused of dog-whistling after saying that people should not bother her.

EVS Twitter account suspension when? Meanwhile, Zack's account is made public again, and an up-and-comic artist who worked in a recent Image mini is one of his newest fans.

>>1020821

>EVS Twitter account suspension when? Meanwhile, Zack's account is made public

Go ahead report it yourself, ya Twitter obsessed autist.

>>1020827

>implying I use Twitter for more than two hours a day

>>1020832

You sure love shitposting about it everytime you come to /co/.

>>1020839

Answer that yourself twitter fag.

>>1020849

Nigger, it's called "digging". It's what gamergate used to do.

>>1020859

That doesn't mean you aren't a twitterfag. GG was full of them.

>>1020849

>>1020865

>LOL WHAT A NERD YOU HAVE PUPPET ACCOUNTS TO KEEP YOURSELF INFORMED

Here is your second (You), are you happy you received your daily dose of attention?

Now go ahead and kill yourself you cuck.

>>1020890

>EVS living in your head rent free

>>1020839

>Even his later post about it doesn't tell his followers to stop, only to "offer excessive kindness".

That should be good enough. Are you really going to split hairs over the fact that he didn't use the exact words you wanted him to? He clearly backed her in her views of Cooke and said be kind to her. In any other world, that would be enough.

>Also, if the harassment Marsha Cooke received was just "talking shit back", then judging from Van Sciver's twitter timeline, her comment that Comicsgate are "cry-babies" has some substance. Van Schiver constantly claims he's the victem of harassment.

They're all faggots in my eyes. Anyone who goes on twitter and bitches about a group of people but can't handle that people are going to push back are dumb niggers and get what they deserve.

>>1020985

>>1020986

What's a "backup story"? And why squirrel girl spesifically?

>>1020999

Checking those trips before they expire.

>>1021024

>What's a "backup story"?

An additional story to the main story. If you look at the Power Ranger thread, those issues are full of 2-3 backup stories.

>And why squirrel girl spesifically?

Because these faggots know most CG spergs rightfully hate that series So the idea is that they would fight to the death to do a minor addition to a book they hate because they're just jealous or something.

>>1021004

>That should be good enough. Are you really going to split hairs over the fact that he didn't use the exact words you wanted him to?

Yes, because EVS was being a weasel. He knew what his followers were doing, but wouldn't tell them to stop. All he would've had to say was "please don't harass her" or something. Even Richie managed that. Instead, EVS acted like it wasn't even happening.

Whither he did it because he tacitly agreed with what they were doing or did it because he was afraid his fanbase would turn on him is up to conjecture.

>>1021032

So you're an autistic sperg that obsesses over Twitter drama, good ti know.

>>1021032

Who really gives a shit about twitter "harrassment"? Hint: nobody on this website should. How is this shit even comparable to the real issues facing the industry today?

"People are mean on twitter!" Absolutely is not something that affects anyone but crybaby attention seekers.

>>1021039

Just report the goon for shitposting.

>>1020551

>Richie got his fucking book dropped over him posting the names and workplace information of six people saying they weren't going to carry his book.

He posted the comic shops and owner names. Literally public information.

You literally admit it here. >>1020831 They're just as public individuals as the Koch brothers or Papa John or any other business owner.

>>1020831

That's literally fucking nothing.

And what should somebody do if they get information that a closed group is colluding against them for no good reason? Sit on it?

At this rate I'm almost tempted to pirate that sperg's book, just to spite people.

Sage because who wants ecelebs dredged back to the top of the board?

>>1021221

>That's literally fucking nothing.

market collusion is illegal. If the D&C guy were to sue he could have a case.

>>1021065

The thing is that nothing the group was doing was illegal. Businesses talk to each other all the time and are under no obligation to purchase a product. Even if you were going to say they wouldn't fullfill orders, all Richie had was talk, not action.

But that doesn't matter because. Antarctic dropped him for that reason.

>>1021222

Nice trips, but the harassmen would leave Richie open to a counter-suit. A counter-suit that would have a greater chance of success than D&C's.

>>1021229

>Nice trips, but the harassmen would leave Richie open to a counter-suit.

there was no harassment by the legal definition. To win a harassment case the alleged victims would have to prove the alleged harasser has been directly contacting the victim even after they've been told to stop AND there has to be proven damages. If the allegation is that his fans did it, they'd have to prove the D&C guy directly instructed the fans to harass them. I'm not even a lawyer, I'm just repeating what one literally said.

>Joe Quesada goes on drunken sperg rant late last night

>>1021416

>no webm

Aint watching it.

>>1021418

Here's a mirror,

>>1021228

> Businesses talk to each other all the time and are under no obligation to purchase a product.

Except colluding to blacklist products or manufacturers is illegal. Doing it based on YOUR OWN opinion is fine, If Hobby Lobby doesn't want to support X business because the owner is literally a satanist that's perfectly fine, but it gets INCREDIBLY messy if they actively encourage and talk to other businesses about doing the same thing, refusing to help or support other businesses who rely on them for associating with them. Blacklisting is illegal. Posting already public information is not. If he published the info and actively told people to commit acts of physical violence, or implied it as such then it would be illegal, and he probably would get a fine (prolly not jail time though) but he didn't. He didn't even imply violence. If you whine "oh but what did he expect when he posted it!?" That's not an argument either, because you're ASSUMING his intent. He could easily just say something "I was hoping they'd organize a letter writing campaign" and your entire ASSUMPTION would hold no ground. Your entire argument hinges on the fact that he was maliciously posting people's private information, except ALL of the information is public and there is NO evidence of malicious intent outside of your PERSONAL and clearly biased assumption.

However since it's such a small scale thing, (Though there is definitely a case for antartic and D&C's NOT the comic shop owners) it's hard to really point exactly how illegal it is, especially since screenshots can be doctored, they'd have to get multiple shop owners from across the world and the US into one state. It's just a huge mess which is why it probably wont ever come to a legal conclusion.

>>1021458

Not illegal, but enough to make a lawsuit seem unlikely.

>>1022016

We're talking about lawsuits, not criminal law. If the fact he released the information to his followers is brought up in court, it might incline a judge or jury to rule against him.

>>1022024

We're not talking about Mark Waid. We're talking Richie attempting to prove market collusion.

As for Waid, that's a non-starter. Richie can't prove that it was Waid, not his own antics, that got Antarctic to drop his book.

>>1022027

Mark Waid only said he called Antarctic, and both Waid and Antarctic have said Antarctic was already aware of the situation when Waid called. Antarctic has denied Waid had anything to do with their decision.

Without evidence of Antarctic lying, or evidence disproving their reason for dropping his book (the store feud), Richie is full of shit.

>>1022028

Can you at least use those books for toilet paper?

>>1022062

You'd think so given how much shit those pages can hold, but no. The paper quality is to low.

>>1022062

>>1022080

Comics are printed on high quality, glossy paper.

Which means they're terrible for toilet paper.

>>1022101

Actual fire-wood is cheaper.

>>1022030

You honestly trust mark waid? Also there is the whole discussion log thing. how are still going on this much to defend the current comics industry? He posted comic stores that said they would not stock the book or even some who would not give people who pre-ordered the book their product.

Dan Scott cucked out and made some huge thing about how comicsgate and criticizing progressive comics is harrassment. He also told his fans to fuck off if they liked it, EVS, or D&C. He even tried to justify the whole thing where people working with alternacomics or their families got doxxed and attempted suicide. He ignored how the people saying they were harassed previously threatened or sent death threats since they are his friends in the industry.

>>1020777

Well if you want other real life examples of "wives" not giving 2 shits about husband than you need to look no further than Monte Oum. Easy enough nowadays for the wives to flake out on husband ala, Anthony Bourdain

"Comicsgate" now has a least one LGBT supporter. For example: http://archive.fo/1dBRC

>>1022725

He's a kike anyway

>>1023055

Are you honestly posting that image unironically? Are you some reddit fag or something? You keep pushing all this nonsense harassment garbage when you can't even post any of it and step up to bat for the big two constantly. You keep moving goalposts too.

>>1023102

>explaining why a conspiracy theory is retarded is now "going to bat for the big two"

Go back to your twitter page if you don't want your stupid ass challenged, faggot.

>>1019771

I had sent him an email of support back when those fucks were dogpiling him. I told him I'm a supporter and that the one thing he could NOT do was apologize to the SJWs. I warned him that doing so is seen as a sign of weakness and they just attack harder.

Two days ago I got an email from him thanking me for my kind words. I'm sure I was just one of hundreds of emails he had to answer, and I know he probably gave me a form response due to the volume, but I was happy that he did that much, and I was happy that I helped him (even if only in a tiny way, as one voice among hundreds) be strong and not give in to his depression.

>>1024331

He did an interview on a YouTube stream and he's mentioned all the support he'd received from the public and the cg comic pros. He said that the twitter dog piling wasn't what really hurt him, but the backstabbing from the people he helped and who turned around and betrayed him.

>>1019842

>creator well-being

>blocking thousands of people at a time because one spoke a forbidden thought

Back2leftypol, not interested in aping halfcuck's /co/mblr thx.