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File: a9322287d75662a⋯.png (82.41 KB, 560x230, 56:23, adventure-time[1].png)

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 No.1000098

Imagine not being able to understand that the visual tone artstyle needs to at least somewhat "match up" with the overarching emotional tone of a work of media. I.E. Serious or realistic artstyle for a serious or "realistic" show and cartoony artstyle for a cartoony show.

Imagine not being able to understand that sometimes a comedic tone is incompatible with a sentimental or serious tone or at least very difficult to mesh together.

 No.1000103

>>1000098

That would require artists that can draw anything that looks realistic.


 No.1000104

Sincerity is obsolete.


 No.1000106

Western animation is still in the mentality that cartoons have to look cartoony


 No.1000109

The Adventure Time art style fit well with what tone they were trying to establish. Simple, childlike drawings for a whimsical fairy tale world.

The others are just lazy.


 No.1000137

>>1000098

Webcomic artists have the worst understanding of this.

See Bittersweet Candy Bowl and Nineteen Ninety-Something


 No.1001369

>>1000098

>needs to at least somewhat "match up" with the overarching emotional tone of a work of media

Nah.


 No.1001376

>>1001371

by OP's definition. Night In The Woods


 No.1001383

>final space

Nigger, 99% of the show is visual comedy and it has a very cartooney style.

How does that not match up?


 No.1001390

>>1001387

That's not what it says in the OP.


 No.1001397

>>1001392

that sure showed me

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 No.1001407

File: 27a384ffee309c9⋯.gif (1.08 MB, 450x338, 225:169, tenor.gif)

>>1000098

Maybe I'm being blinded because I LOVED early Adventure Time and the tidbits of real adventure and actual threat it had and how it slowly evolved into something more sinister but Adventure Time's style could actually turn the cutesy stuff into some grotesque imagery that made me went "Oh shit" when the gloves came off and it was storytime.

What I feel ruined Adventure time was the drama and how much Finn never moved past this stationary point. And I'm still bitter about Princess Fire not becoming player 2.


 No.1001424

I tried to watch Rick and Morty cause they have been airing S1 and S2 in some cable networks of my area (south america)

So i went and watched S3, The seschaun sauce felt like the most stupid thing i ever saw. Not stupid as in funny, but just stupid, pointless, even annoying.

The show its full on nihilistic and sarcastic shit left and right, i was curious, but shit, its not even fun.


 No.1001426

>>1001425

i just don't see why people like it, i have got my stupid laughs at stuff from Family Guy and such, but other than the over-use of the interdimensional trouble and super science as a plot device. i don't feel it.


 No.1002170

Final Space is awful. I went into it seeing the big eyes and spindly limbs thinking it was like Family Guy or Rick and Morty, but the pacing and lore-heavy plot was anything but comedic. In a better time this would have Pirates of Black Water visuals. Stupid producers think all you need to make a cartoon a hit is big bug-eyes.


 No.1002171

>>1001426

Never laughed at R&M but it has its charms.


 No.1002765

>>1000098

>adventure time

>>1000137

>bcb

One was originally a wacky surrealistic show, and the other a light-hearted slice of life anime-furry crossover comic. Both original creators might have had the right idea when they were making it but lost the vision down the line


 No.1014117

Finally someone fucking gets it!


 No.1014122

File: 3e132d9b5e33570⋯.jpeg (13.92 KB, 300x300, 1:1, A0D40082-2858-4394-B590-8….jpeg)

>>1000098

I’M PICKLE RAPIST, MARTY!!!


 No.1021197

>>1000098

US character designers are crap because the drawings have to move


 No.1021236

>>1001371

Puella Magi Madoka Magica.

Then again, witch barriers and witch stuff in general correctly foreshadow something is wrong, and the choice of making all promo art and the girls themselves stupid cute was completely intentional.


 No.1021827

>>1001426

its very funny unless you're a right wing killjoy


 No.1029664

File: 1e211d2437f2e63⋯.jpg (428.35 KB, 1801x2550, 1801:2550, proxy.duckduckgo.com.jpg)

There's more styles that can work for a serious story besides "realism" you retard


 No.1029754

>>1029664

> or at least very difficult to mesh together.


 No.1029756

>>1000000


 No.1029758

>>1029664

Don't insult Samurai Jack's artstyle by comparing it to the ones OP posted


 No.1029812

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>>1000109

>Imagine not being able to understand that sometimes a comedic tone is incompatible with a sentimental or serious tone or at least very difficult to mesh together.


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 No.1029835

>>1029812

But in adventure time's case, it's not. It needs the comedy to give the drama and sentimental moments context. The first few seasons had much more comedy and as a result, the drama, when it's there, is much more impactful.


 No.1029837

>>1029754

But samuri jack's style fits it perfectly. The cold, sharp, geometric look with harsh colors tells you a lot about a lot about the show's tone before you even watch it


 No.1032717

>>1029758

>muh sacred cow


 No.1032720

>>1032717

If you're seriously trying to argue that Samurai Jack is being shielded from criticism just because anons think that it shouldn't be compared to trash like SU and Rick and Morty than you're a complete imbecile.


 No.1033070

>>1033052

You need to bait harder then that.


 No.1033083

File: 6540c12e11ca973⋯.png (695.94 KB, 1272x713, 1272:713, ClipboardImage.png)

>>1001407

Adventure time should have ended after season 2


 No.1033119

File: 10677f15175891a⋯.jpg (27.44 KB, 250x225, 10:9, 911.jpg)


 No.1033165

>>1000098

No it doesn't. This is why you'll never be creative.


 No.1034065

File: 287f73b3aa46018⋯.jpg (90.15 KB, 690x1050, 23:35, hungover pb.jpg)

>>1033083

ain't that the truth


 No.1034116

Steven universe could have been a fun show, based on the trailer. The idea of a monster-of-the-week show format where steven has to use his wits, comebacks, and time-travel gimmick to help the gems beat impossible enemies is something I'd watch a lot more than.

Hell I think Painanon would have liked that show.


 No.1034130

>>1033083

No, Adventure Time should have ended before season 1.


 No.1034163

>>1033165

>implying all the shows in the OP are creative


 No.1034169

>>1000098

The tone does not need to match up for it to work, in my opinion. I think it might be a bit hamfisted to expect every comedy show to look bright and animated, while every serious show looks dour and grim. That's the mindset that made all that absolute tripe in the 90s and early 2000s. If you can't look past an art style to appreciate it separately from the narrative tone, then I'd say that's a problem. You should be able to figure out what to feel without needing obvious visual cues like some kind of ocular laugh track.

That said, I would also like to at least see an attempt at more realistic or serious art styles. The market right now is completely over-saturated with bubbly, simplistic, round, "CalArts" style shows and it's very boring. I just want variety.

I agree entirely with your second point though; comedy and seriousness are very difficult to mash together. I think when they do work, it elevates a show well beyond something that's only ever funny or serious. I admire that people try, in that respect, to weave the two together. The issue is just that it is difficult, as you said, and most creators mash them too close together. It creates a whiplash of suddenly serious moments we don't care about and that have no impact, or suddenly comedic moments that aren't funny and ruin the mood.

>>1034163

That's obviously not what he was saying and you know it. If you even have an argument to defend, learn to defend it properly.


 No.1034190

>>1002170

God that show made me angry it was so mediocre. I mean the visuals are there but the main character is the most grating garbage can I've ever witnessed in a "mature" animation


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 No.1034214

>>1034190

At least we have Sam Sweetmilk. That seems much better.


 No.1034217

>>1034214

I may have funded that but I don't remember. There was a crowdfunding of that for more episodes, did they ever come out?


 No.1034219

>>1034217

There were two animatic episodes released on the channel and a pilot was released on the channel as well. It seems pretty good.


 No.1034228

>>1034219

Ah, so they never got around to animating that second episode, that's too bad.


 No.1034330

>>1034228

I've seen some videos where he says he's working with a team to get it done and is trying to pitch it to some networks. I really hope he succeeds it seems like a pretty good cartoon.




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