No.7359
How does /animu/ feel about otokonoko?
No.7362
No.7364
Nakuru Akizuki is best girl.
No.7399
I'd like to lick the feet of an otokonoko.
No.7446
>How does /animu/ feel about otokonoko?
Yes.
No.11120
>>7512
This is really cute. I'm going to start reading this. Danke.
No.11123
No.11124
No.11157
>>11124
>>7362
traps aren't gay, anon
No.11473
No.11929
No.12537
Ciel Phantomhive is best trap.
No.12565
Samurai High School was fun.
No.12638
>>12537
>>11157
>>7446
>>7399
>>7364
Anons, it's the curernt year. It's ok to be openly gay.
No.12640
>>12638
traps aren't gay tho
No.12808
Do you like traps despite the dick or because of it? Cause the latter is definitely gay.
No.12811
>>12640
>the same tired cuckchan excuse
>2018
Pic related
No.12812
>>12808
do you like man's ass because you like female ass?
No.12813
>>12640
Anon, it totally is
No.12825
>>12812
What? This response makes no sense
Besides, male ass looks nothing like female ass. And it's attached to a dick, hence gay
Same with traps.
No.12826
>>12825
>shifts the goalpost so far it became the goaldot
Answer the goddamn question
No.12827
Ban fag shit or I bounce.
No.12828
People claim to like traps because of their femininity but the key feminine features on a woman are her tits, ass, and hips. A trap has neither of these so how can you call them feminine?
No.12831
>>12826
You're the one shifting the goalposts, but I'll oblige
>do you like man's ass because you like female ass?
I don't like man ass because it's man ass, looks nothing like female ass. Has a ponos on the other side instead of a vagoo. Your question makes no sense
Now you answer the one you tried to dodge
>Do you like traps despite the dick or because of it?
No.12839
>>12828
They're basically DFC girls with a dick.
No.18298
>>7362
Not gay. 娘 means girl.
No.18299
>>12839
That's exactly what they are. Simply ordinary girls drawn with feminine benis. The essence of a thing comes last in Japanese as it is a head last language, and what's last in 男の娘? 娘 or "girl". Ergo, traps are defined as girls according to their nip creators. It's lines on paper, so it is whatever the creator says it is. Sorry, but not gay.
No.18303
>>7359
>Hey that's a cute dress I wonder what she's from
>Wait
CONFOUND YOU FAGGOTS YOU DRIVE ME TO DRINK
No.18317
>>18299
Japan is a nation of closet fags. The dick is what makes it gay
No.18338
>>18297
Yes, 男の娘 are just females with peniform clitorides and psuedo testicles like hyena females.
No.18341
Traps make me question my sexuality the cute feminime looking ones.
Not the hideous drag queens like Chris-chan.
Are traps trannys?
No.18342
>>18341
Traps are just cross dressers that naturally have the body and face tp pass off as girls in most cases and still identify as male. The Japanese phrase for trap is "Otokonoko" while the Japanese phrase for tranny is "Newhalf".
No.18356
>>18342
I like how the japs clearly defined these two specific subcultures that while similar do have differences.
Here evrything from Cross dresser to transvestite,trap and tranny are all considered LGBTQ and you must address them with their preferred pronoun
No.18360
>>18356
Traps in Japan aren't delusional, don't pump themselves with hormones and identify as dudes that just dress like girls because it's fun and they know they could pull it off, a good chunk of them aren't gay and aren't into dudes. Newhalfs in Japan are the hormone taking trannys. Japan has a different mindset when it comes to these things, you can't see it through a Western mindset.
No.18362
>>18360
I feel the japs haven't been corrupted by LGBT cancer yet but once they do we will see straight up otokonoko/straight male shipping in anime
No.18383
>>18342
Wrong nigger.
>男の娘（おとこのこ）とは、男性でありながら女性にしか見えない容姿と内面を持つ者を指す言葉[1]。
>Otokonoko is a word that refers to individuals who are indistinguishable from females, internally and externally, despite being male.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%B7%E3%81%AE%E5%A8%98
>基本的には、二次元における見た目が可愛らしく、男からも好かれそうな女性的な要素・雰囲気を持つ男子のことを指す。未だ定義の定まらない概念であるが、女体化（TSF）や両性具有（ふたなり）、三次女装男子、男性両声類などは微妙に外れると考えられている。
>Basically refers to 2D boys with cute looks that have a feminine atmosphere that is even attractive to men. The concept isn't stable yet, but mtf gender swapped characters, futas, 3D crossdressers, and males that sing like girls aren't quite considered to meet the criteria.
>女装少年とは異なり、女性になりたいという願望を抱く美青年・美少年であったり、（天性のものか努力の賜物かを問わず）心身ともに女と見紛うばかりであったりする。
>Unlike crossdressing boys, they are beautiful youths or boys with the desire to be female that can only be mistaken for a female in terms mind and body (regardless of whether it is naturally or the fruit of efforts)
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E7%94%B7%E3%81%AE%E5%A8%98
No.18402
>18383
All that text to only say "traps don't necessarily have to crossdress to be traps." Also:
>with the desire to be female
>"traps are transgender"
That seems like it came straight out of >>>/tumblr/ and so do (You).
No.18417
>>18402
It's not what I said, it's what the nips said, why do you think I linked the source, nigger.
No.19110
When I get fit again I want to wear more women’s clothing.
No.24861
Traps are best when they have big butts.
No.24866
>otokonoko eh?
>that's the thing with mother + daughter at same time, right?
<click
OH NO!
No.25029
>>25019
>Only half of the entire thing is translated
No.25030
>>24866
This is why you learn Japanese fetish definitions
No.25051
>>25046
Why does that guy have to draw so much fucking scat? Ruins a lot of his doujins for me.
No.25053
>>25051
It sucks, especially when he makes thick thighed traps.
No.25054
>>25051
Fortunately Chin☆COMPLETE and Chin☆Dere are free of that shit.
No.25055
>>25054
>>25046
>>25050
Yeah, these are scat-free. Different from his other works.
No.28912
File: d7cb665907a68d1⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 461.95 KB, 1000x1411, 1000:1411, [broccoholic (MM)] Sugar H….jpg)
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No.29919
Reminder that traps are usually shotas or highschool boys for a reason.
No.30164
>>29919
>not loving your trap at any age
How terrible.
No.30166
No.30195
>>18338
>no english translation
Goddamnit. Are there any trap games with an english translation?
No.30238
>>30195
Skyrim with trap mods
No.30340
I just started watching assassination classroom. The Otokonoko meme has gone too far.
>He is known for his androgynous appearance
Look that height, the waist/hips ratio, the overall frame. That's not androgynous, it's blatantly female. The character has a female VA in both Nip and the English dub. There's never been a more blatant case of creating a girl and calling it a boy.
No.30341
>>30340
At least Felix and Astolfo still looks like boys, this is just lazy.
No.30385
>>30340
>Parents watching an anime where the MC is an otokonoko
What horrifying timeline is this?
No.30501
>>30363
>Becomes a cute trap and marries his female childhood friend
Pretty jealous to be honest.
No.30521
>>30514
I think they know, bud. No need to remind them.
No.30523
>>30514
Who cares as long as it's cute?
No.30526
No.30784
>>30385
>Parents watching an anime where the MC is a crossdressing otokonoko
No.30807
Does having oppai stop a character from being otokonoko?
No.30808
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>30807
IMO yes, otokonoko heavily imblies DFC. When you add oppai of that size, you are now in futa dickgirl country.
No.30820
>>30807
Yes and even the Japs know it. It's a "futanari tapestry" not an "otokonoko tapestry"
No.30821
>>30807
Yes it does. Don't worry though, it's still just as gay.
No.30827
>>30807
well, its called a booby trap for a good reason.
No.30844
>>30807
No shit sherlock, why are you asking dumb questions like that. On that note it pisses me off that western artists still haven't learn you gotta put a pussy shot on a futa at least once if she has testicles otherwise people will assume it's a shemale.
No.30847
>>30844
Pretty much this. Futas are hermaphrodites with both a pussy and penus. Sometimes the penis is where the clitorus should be. A futa with no pussy is no different from a Newhalf indeed.
No.30848
No.30900
>>30808
Imagina a Bible Black otokonoko….
No.31151
Real otokonoko cut their dicks off and take hormones. :^)
No.31155
>>31151
Then they stop being otokonoko and turn into newhalfs.
No.31158
>>30807
Yes.
>>31155
Don't they need tits for that?
No.31215
>>31151
>Genital mutilation
>Real otokonoko
No.
>>31155
>>31158
Newhalfs get implants while keeping their junk.
No.32953
ANN has banned the use of the word 'Trap' in their forums
https://archive.is/uYc4G#selection-5343.1-5268.7
No.32980
File: 4d55eaaba6d54b0⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 223.71 KB, 1556x2032, 389:508, itttla-942564103733858309-….jpg)
>>32953
Not surprising, considering these people think traps are the same as trannies.
No.40321
>tfw you can barely find trap porn anymore because of politically correct terms replacing it
They're not even trannies! These terms shouldn't be changed like this!
No.40327
>>32980
Both belong in the bog, but it's still stupid to call them the same.
No.40467
>>40321
>masturbatig to 3d traps
Now that is indeed gay
No.40471
>>40321
The Japanese terms and their English counterparts are this.
>Trap (otokonoko) = Cross dresser/Girly boy
>Newhalf = Tranny
The term for tranny in anime and manga is newhalf, not trap. At this point I stopped using the term trap and just go for otokonoko because SJWeebs hijacked the term to make it mean something else.
>>40467
He didn't even mention 3D.
No.42332
File: a3876228141eb52⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 879.35 KB, 1804x2560, 451:640, __original_and_otokonoko_h….jpg)
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It's not gay if it's 2D right?
No.42333
>>42332
Let me tell you something
The best traps are shotas, take Hacka Doll 3 for example. A shota trap easily passes off as a cute loli. Touching a shota trap's small penis with one's own penis is ideal, especially when cumming together.
No.42336
>>42335
It's not gay if the trap is a small shota.
No.42337
>>42333
You're a man of taste.
>>42335
They look exactly like girls minus the peepee part.
No.42348
>See a cute girl
>But you also notice her twin brother
No.42355
>>42336
>>42337
not an argument
No.42487
File: 82b0278c0016c25⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 50.96 KB, 750x618, 125:103, 82b0278c0016c25c07dd02408d….jpg)
I like them and would to treat them like girls, except that I'd let them fuck me in the ass before I do the same to them.
>inb4 gay
I can only love and marry females, 2D or 3D. At best, traps can only become friends with benefits to me.
No.42492
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>>42487
I'd say getting fucked in the ass is pretty gay.
No.42496
>>42492
>what is pegging
Anon, even if that is true that only makes me a bisexual.
No.42499
>>42492
>Trap Alice in Araland.
No.42508
>>42499
I've never seen this before and I can't seem to find it on my usual doujin sites. Was this made very recently?
No.42555
>>42508
Old doujin, it's called (C90) [Alice no Takarabako (Mizuryu Kei)] Yoiko no Sukebe Douwa Series 2 Fushidara na Kuni no Alice (Alice in Wonderland)
No.42577
>>42555
Thanks, I'm a huge fan of Mizuryu Kei but somehow looked over this one.
No.42620
No.42661
>>42620
actually that is a pretty good way to dissipate heat.
No.42692
Anyone have a collection of D@i's artwork? He's recently cleared out his pixiv and twitter, and I'm sure there's only so much of it on the boorus.
No.42814
No.42974
>>42692
>He's recently cleared out his pixiv and twitter
Why do they keep fucking doing this shit?
No.43441
Time for a Trap/Otokonoko/Crossdressing animu and mango rec thread!
Here's Asa Made Jugyou Chu, a story about boy forced to crossdress and deal with an unwanted straight harem. This should make a good starter title.
>>7512
>>11120
Just done reading the first volume. It's beyond cute, it's endearing.
The little school drama of the protag's life isn't really my cup of tea, though, but it ended well.
I want someone to dump the second volume (and the other volumes if they exist) so I can translate them someday.
>>18362
>but once they do we will see straight up otokonoko/straight male shipping in anime
I'm pretty sure that happened in Happiness! and Genshiken.
If that doesn't count, there's this cute manga named Otokonoko Tsuma／おとこのこ妻 where a man married a crossdressing guy (Although the marriage was unrecognised by Japan's government, according to the protagonist).
But >>18360 is still right, many 3D traps in Japan just crossdress for fun, not because they are literally gay.
>>11157
This. Someone should upload that image which said science that confirmed attraction to traps are neither gay nor straight. The keyword is nAGMP.
No.51322
>>51291
What a rotten way to go.
No.51354
>>42487
>I like them and would to treat them like girls,
Hey that's not so…
>except that I'd let them fuck me in the ass
>let them
>fuck me in the ass