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File: 3e71a0b909d99d3⋯.jpg (329.88 KB, 1024x620, 256:155, Wizard of Oz Movie Anime.jpg)

File: 301e504c30c2c10⋯.jpg (47.77 KB, 512x384, 4:3, Wizard of Oz TV anime.jpg)

 No.56672

And no I don't mean the anime I mean the original novel.

>Dorothy gets special magical skills only she can use

>Dorothy has a (reverse) harem form around her

>Dorothy has a cute mascot character (Toto)

>Dorothy is on a quest to go back to the real world

>Dorothy happens to be the only one able to help solve all of her harems problems on her way back to the real world

>she is overpowered as fuck (one shot not one but TWO wicked witches)

>meets another person from the "normal world" who is powerful in Oz, albeit not for power related reasons but political.

>girl from the modern day (at the time) gets involuntarily sent to a magical realm upon dying albeit it was later revealed she did not but come on she was hit by a tornado unguarded

>in the end nothing mattered fuck the expanded Oz universe

For a more meta point

>the first Wizard of Oz adaption to be starred in Japan was an anime made during 1982 and 198, a movie and a tv series respectively, just in time before the massive DnD boom of the late 1980s to early 1990s that also becomes an important part of later isekai

One could argue that Alice in Wonderland also had Isekai elements but Alice didn't seem too much of a rush to get home, didn't have any special abilities, didn't have a harem and only had the similar "normal person goes to magical realm" part that even some older fairy tales have. Compare to Oz that when published in the 1900s that was literally about a modern girl getting involuntarily transported to a magical realm. Does this mean we can blame The Wizard of Oz for ruining anime?

 No.56674

Weren't there tales going back two thousand years ago about people travelling to new worlds?


 No.56683

File: 13c40cf7fa90b7f⋯.jpg (269.53 KB, 965x641, 965:641, Urashima Taro.jpg)

>>56674

There's plenty of stories like that but they miss the crucial element that, usually, it is "someone from a long time ago got spirited to a magical realm" as far as I can see The Wizard of Oz is the first time "someone from the current day gets sent to a magical realm". If we use the former as an example, the closest Japanese Fairy tale to do this is Urashima Taro who saves a turtle gets to visit a magical palace and come back, however, this doesn't compare well to an Isekai as

>he isn't special there

>he goes there voluntarily

>he doesn't really do anything while there just gets a box is told to never open it

The Wizard of Oz is the first story I can find to capture all the relevant "tropes" I don't know a better word for this of the modern Isekai. You could argue Peter Pan does as well but I'd say it still doesn't read like a modern isekai.


 No.56688

>>56683

A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court was written earlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Connecticut_Yankee_in_King_Arthur%27s_Court


 No.56708

But Wizard of Oz wasn't even the first book in the Oz series, so you're wrong.


 No.56716

>>56708

There were others?


 No.56719

>>56716

Are you joking? There were like seven books or so.


 No.56729


 No.56731

File: 226ec979bcb91d8⋯.jpg (56.29 KB, 609x718, 609:718, 226ec979bcb91d89558ff7708c….jpg)

>>56688

>>56729

>sent back in time

>isekai


 No.56733

>>56731

It was still technically another world, anon. Merlin was made up in later versions of the King Arthur stories rather than being part of the original, and the whole "landlord gets the wife's virginity" thing has no historical basis for ever actually existing.


 No.56739

File: 9eb3a76ac8476c3⋯.png (2.82 MB, 1654x2339, 1654:2339, ClipboardImage.png)

>>56731

I think it counts.

Also, I'm catching up with Paralel Paradise, and it introduced an interesting concept. MC goes back and forth between his world and the fantasy world every time he dies. His body on the real world however doesn't seem to heal when that happens, and he has already lost an arm and a leg and one love interest for it.


 No.56775

File: d601d2341bf296a⋯.png (61.54 KB, 168x258, 28:43, Hey.png)

>>56731

>He thinks King Arthur was a real person


 No.56777

File: a139bb506b8b425⋯.jpg (855.34 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, 144806df113906e8fef05bcc30….jpg)

>>56733

>>56739

>It counts as isekai

It's not literally isekai, but it has all the tropes associated with it I suppose.

>>56775

Nice strawman, faggot. I never said that.


 No.56814

File: 3b3008d1522079d⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 983.48 KB, 1127x1600, 1127:1600, Censorship via overflow.png)

>>56733

>>56775

The story itself plainly states he was sent back in time and was made to sleep 1300 years returning him to his present and dying there, asleep still of course. It wasn't traveling to another world and there was no "magic" that Merlin was able to use except magic to put him to sleep for 1300 years I guess? Even if IRL King Arthur and company never existed historically, inside the "Yankee in King Arthur's Court" universe they were real, along with Merlin.

>>56777

I'd say it probably laid the ground for such traditions but wasn't the first isekai that included all the important details I listed. Hell. He doesn't even get a harem :^)

>>56739

Parallel Paradise is just filled with ridiculous smut but it's so out there it's hilarious. The fact the author doesn't censor vaginas traditional but just has them gushing out so much liquid it obscures the crotch is hilarious.




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