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3bef9f (4)  No.64980>>64987 >>65029 >>65151 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

A lot of people here have had bad experiences in childhood and most of those experiences are either directly or indirectly related to their parents. That brings up the question, what SHOULD a parent do about a child who wants to wear diapers, and how are they suppose to know about it in the first place?

47826b (3)  No.64985>>64986 >>64995 >>64999 >>65229

Ideally, they'd just pretend they didn't know and let their kid wack off to whatever freaky shit they're into because everybody has their own kinks. The issue is most people are freaked out by kinks if they don't have any really taboo ones themselves and they can't really empathize with what it's like to have one and they panic.

What I don't get is those people who feel they have to "come out" about their kinks to their parents. I remember seeing constant threads of other teens asking how they tell their parents when I was a kid and lurking forums. I never understood why the fuck anybody would ever do that, there was no part of me that thought my parents needed to know what I jacking off to. I feel like you'd have to be somewhere on the spectrum to consider doing that.


98cc68 (1)  No.64986>>64987 >>64995

>>64985

>>What I don't get is those people who feel they have to "come out" about their kinks to their parents.

i've never understood this either. there are threads somewhat regularly in fetlife groups asking about this.

it's an awful idea. period.


8a0430 (2)  No.64987>>65049

>>64980 (OP)

Most importantly, reassure the child that they're accepted and loved regardless of their kinks.

I also think it's a good idea to make arrangements for the child to indulge in the fetish safely in private. Being able to explore it in a safe environment is a lot better then letting it fester in your mind for decades. Keeping things buried definitely didn't do my mind any good.

>>64986

It sounds like the fetish is very mild for you. That is, you could have a perfectly normal relationship and just fap to it occasionally.

When it's your entire sexuality it's a different matter. Having a fucked up, exclusive kink as a teenager is pretty harmful to one's mental health. I can understand why some feel the need to confide in their parents.


fb1890 (1)  No.64988>>64995 >>64999

Ideally, yeah, parents shouldn't intervene into their own child's sex life. Like, leave your kid alone. If you're real concerned, write them a letter, but don't fucking trap them like a wounded animal and have them explain what keeps their dick upright every moment they have "impure" thoughts.

And I love the moronic, surrealistic and dissociative "how do I come out to my parents?" as if putting your jerk-off fuel out into your household will unveil the mystery and let you wear whatever you want. "How do I tell my parents I want to wear diapers?" Why would you? 99% of the time, you're gonna be sent to some psychiatric evaluation, because suddenly their Minecraft gaming, C- average, overweight kid now wants to spend their late nights wetting themselves.

It's like a 50/50. You; the kid, don't tell your parents what gets you off. The parents; don't go sifting through the kid's dirty thoughts.

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to. To summarize, leave it alone. Keep sexual tensions in the bedroom, and if you really really need to confront your kid to make sure everything is alright, write them a letter. It's not that you don't love them any less, sometimes being a parents is loving your child so much you grow unbearably concerned.


869667 (4)  No.64995>>64998

>>64985

>>64986

>>64988

I don't think you guys are keeping in mind that being into diapers or abdl stuff in general isn't completely sexual for everyone. There are plenty of people who like partly in some nonsexual contexts (though I do find it a bit weird that there are some people who are not into the sexual side at all (of course they could just be ashamed and lying about that because they don't want to be viewed as a pervert))

I mean for me personally, most of this stuff is VERY sexual for me. And when I was younger I didn't understand the people who were talking about being into some aspects of it sexually (but that was probably also because back then I was purely only into the diapers and none of the other aspects of abdl) though as I got older I started understanding it more and being more into the idea of regression or being a little and all of that. I mean regardless I still would never tell my parents and I would die if they found out.

But some people have different types of relationships with their parents, some people are VERY open with them, or tell them all their secrets. Or it diapers could just be such a integral part of their sexuality or perceived lifestyle that hiding that aspect of themselves away seems like hiding their entire identity away. And while I think it probably isn't the best idea to tell your parents about it in most cases doesn't mean there aren't some instances where it could be fine or good.

Just because telling your own parents would be fucking weird and cringey and so embarrassing you would die (like it would be for me with mine) doesn't mean it would be like that for EVERYONE. Think beyond yourself.


3bef9f (4)  No.64996

I think you people are overlooking the part where many people started being interested in diapers at an age where they had no way to get them.


62698b (2)  No.64998>>65002 >>65074 >>65127

>>64995

There are two kinds of people in this world.

Those who know that this is a sexual fetish, and liars.


2a2dff (2)  No.64999

>>64985

Meh, personally, I didn't feel the "need" to come out to my parents, but they both eventually learned I have this fetish.

My mother simply found soiled makeshift diapers in the trash often enough when I was a teen and still lived under her roof that she eventually confronted me about it and I was honest and answered her questions until she seemed satisfied (and possibly disgusted, considering she felt it necessary to insist I'd never find a GF who'd accept that, which I did…) and we never talked about it again.

My father didn't know until I was in my 30s… I never had a serious GF (the aforementioned GF who accepted my fetish) until then and since he lives a 10 hour drive from me, we meet like once a year, so he never met my GFs until we decided to go on vacation in his area. We drank a lot of Scotch one night at his place and once everyone but he and I had gone to sleep, he started asking me if she was "really" my GF, because he somehow assumed I was gay, apparently. That pissed me off some and since I was pretty drunk, I went against my best judgment and asked him if he really, really, REALLY wanted to talk about my sex life and turn-ons. He said yes, so I told him nothing gets me hard like diapers, at which point he simply asked me if I was a pedo… Fun times… We talked about it some more that night, but never again after.

In the end, they both know and claimed not to think any less of me, but it's kind of obvious that they'd prefer me to be "normal". Like >>64988 said, they shouldn't have asked questions they didn't want to know the answers to.

Even as far as girlfriends go, I only ever told the one about it, after she kept saying things like she "behaved like a baby at times", that she "hated being an adult" and that she "always got along with kids better because she was so immature", which led me to think maybe she was into it (and/or ageplay). Turns out she wasn't, but after my "coming out", she said she wouldn't mind trying if it made me happy, that she'd love to see me wearing my diapers, etc…, so that turned out great.


3690b8 (1)  No.65002>>65032

>>64998

Sure this is a "sexual" fetish for me but I'm more into the idea of being helpless and having to use my diaper because I have no choice. The idea of force regression is my main draw to this fetish.

IDK about you but I actually don't like cumming in diapers. Afterwards I have no interest in wearing and I just feel like getting dressed again. I much, much prefer using the diaper and "edging" the whole time.


a7553f (4)  No.65009

>A lot of people here have had bad experiences in childhood

I didn't. I was bullied as a kid but that's it.

>what SHOULD a parent do about a child who wants to wear diapers

Not encourage it, but stay out of it. It's mostly harmless. Unless your child has some major autism and needs to be told not to shit themselves at the store and tell the cashier "I made a stinky in my diapee, where's the potty?" (which unfortunately some people here seem to need to be told not to do) it isn't going to be an issue.

Like any other fetish, so long as they're not endangering anyone or getting other people involve without their consent, it really doesn't matter.


8a0430 (2)  No.65014>>65025

Honestly I find all the sexual taboos in our society really weird. In an ideal world we would be able to openly discuss this kind of stuff without anyone being outraged or horrified. It would solve a lot of problems.

The fact we can't shows just how immature we are as a species.


a7553f (4)  No.65025>>65028

>>65014

God you sound like a 15 year old who took a philosophy class, an evolutionary biology class, and smoked weed all in the same day. Fuck off.


dd4679 (4)  No.65028>>65031 >>65090

>>65025

Who hurt you?


4a2089 (1)  No.65029>>65035

>>64980 (OP)

I was 12 and my sister's friend shows me how to fuck she was 33 I guess that's why I'm a sick fuck :-o


a7553f (4)  No.65031>>65034

>>65028

I just can't put up with pretentious twats saying shit like

>The fact we can't shows just how immature we are as a species.

As if he's some higher being that has it all figured out.

Point me to a species more """mature""" than humans for fuck sake. It's just bollocks he thinks makes him sound smart


b1c575 (1)  No.65032>>65037

>>65002

>Sure this is a "sexual" fetish for me but I'm more into the idea of being helpless and having to use my diaper because I have no choice. The idea of force regression is my main draw to this fetish.

Yep, that's sexual.

>IDK about you but I actually don't like cumming in diapers. Afterwards I have no interest in wearing and I just feel like getting dressed again. I much, much prefer using the diaper and "edging" the whole time.

Which only further proves that it is sexual. Most people lose interest in sex after they came. Guess why.

I mean yeah I get the point, it's not *just* sexual, people like the feel, people like the look, people enjoy cuddling more than the average person does, blablabla. It all still comes from a sexual place.

inb4 the mandatory asexual that wants to feel special.


dd4679 (4)  No.65034>>65048

>>65031

He's not wrong though. The world's a shitty place to live.

Getting offended because someone dared to criticize human civilization is just stupid.


869667 (4)  No.65035>>65036

>>65029

Did you enjoy it, or did you feel like it was weird or in retrospect that you were taken advantage of?

I lost my virginity when I was 8 to my best friend at the time and we would fuck regularly. And then when I was 12 I started fucking drug dealers in their 20's in exchange for drugs.


062b80 (2)  No.65036>>65038

>>65035

You make me scared at the fact my wife is pregnant. I hope my kid isn't as fucked up as you.

As for telling parents, I don't want to know. If they feel trust in me to tell me about it, I will try my best to be supportive but obviously not pushing to much. I'm a parent first, not a friend. My wife and I have already had talks about if something like this ever happened, and I have to be the one to deal with it which makes sense since I have a kink…


869667 (4)  No.65037>>65106

>>65032

Have there never been times where you just want to wear a diaper and not do anything sexual? I mean regardless of the situation the diaper feels good when you wear it, but plenty of things feel good regardless of the situation and it doesn't make those things inherently sexual. Just relaxing (and possibly regressing) while you're in a diap, playing games, drawing stuff, pissing yourself, but not getting hard or feeling really sexual about it at all; just it being utilized as a relaxation/regression tool.


869667 (4)  No.65038>>65044

>>65036

> I hope my kid isn't as fucked up as you.

Eh. I don't really think I'm too fucked up, I mean I definitely recognize that I'm Different and I did a lot of things that many other people haven't, but I just view that as a ton of life experience that I got incredibly fast. It isn't like I do anything like that anymore, I stopped when I was 16 and haven't had any drugs since then (also haven't had any sex, but that isn't too big of a deal for me.)

I think I'm pretty well adjusted, though I do have some mental issues (that's sort of why I started seeking out drugs in the first place) but those are slowly but surely being worked out. And no one would guess I ever did stuff like that unless I blatantly tell them about it which would lead me to assume that I came off as normal/nice enough for it to seem like a shock for me to have done things of that nature. But that could also just be a case of people not really thinking things like that are possible until they hear about it.

Though I do understand why you wouldn't want your kid to go through similar things, it's a LOT, and it can definitely be dangerous, and it also just implies a whole host of other problems that are just as hard to deal with.

I do think you have a good approach for dealing with abdl stuff if it turns out your kid ends up getting it. And I wish you luck with raising your kid!


beb3c2 (2)  No.65040>>65104

It’s not really surprising how many ABDLs struggle with appropriate boundaries given the nature of the fetish but it is so offputting.


062b80 (2)  No.65044

>>65038

Thanks! And you have definitely matured and your response shows great character and commend you for that! It's always nice to seem someone with a very "different" childhood develop into great people.


a7553f (4)  No.65048>>65055

>>65034

Its fuck all about offence and "criticising human civilisation"

It's the fact this guy has said absolutely notihing. There is no meaning to calling humans immature as a species, there is no species more mature than humans. There is no example of a mature species to point to and say "this is what we should be". It's just some faggot who thinks he sounds smart. He doesn't like something about society, so he says "humans are immature as a species" as if he has some great insight into how things should really be. He doesn't. Who's to say that is immaturity? Who's to say a more mature species would be different? No one, just this faggot.


47826b (3)  No.65049>>65050 >>65105

>>64987

Different guy, I’m first post guy, but that’s exactly what it is to me. It turns me on more than traditional sexual stuff, but I’ve been able to have sexual relationships without it easily. In fact, I’ve never brought it up to a partner. The longest relationship I’ve been in had lite-ageplay aspects. She was into getting, calling me daddy, baby-talking during sex, and liked sucking my thumb. But that was more coincidence than anything since all of that was put forth by her and not by me. Who knows if it would have progressed beyong that had we stayed together longer, but I was a senior in high school and lucked out having my first gf be a cute girl with daddy issues.


47826b (3)  No.65050

>>65049

*getting spanked


2a2dff (2)  No.65055>>65062

>>65048

I agree, he sounds like Brian from Family Guy… So full of shit, yet still thinks he's better than others. I really love when Stewie or Quagmire point out how shallow and pedantic he really is.


2f4c31 (1)  No.65062

>>65055

> I really love when Stewie or Quagmire point out how shallow and pedantic he really is.

>the murderer or the rapist are acting like they have any high ground to call someone out on.

Honestly I don't get why anyone would get upset over what the fictional dog says in the 1st place.


10788f (1)  No.65067

Honestly, my parents never knew that I was interested in this weird kink from the start (as long as I can remember, the idea excited me), and I hope they never do.


aea72f (4)  No.65074>>65109

>>64998

I was into diapers 5+ years before I hit puberty. It was a deep, abiding drive before it gave me erections.

I'll admit that, post-puberty, it developed a sexual side. I mean, obviously having warm, wet stuff around your junk is going to do that. But the inception of the issue wasn't a fetish- it's some sort of psychological obsession that had a fetish side-effect.

I think that's the position people come from that want to discuss it with their parents. There's something wrong, we realize it, and it's somewhat a plea for help.

Problem, of course, is everyone freaks out and starts laying blame instead of asking what needs went unmet in the kid that they're now obsessed with regressing to an infantile state.


03dc74 (1)  No.65090

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b45a65 (1)  No.65096>>65103

>too young to get a job to buy diapers

>probably too old to fake bedwetting

fuck


69a4be (1)  No.65103

>>65096

Underage leave


dd4679 (4)  No.65104>>65419

>>65040

>so offputting

>>>/reddit/


dd4679 (4)  No.65105

>>65049

Then you can't possibly know what it's like to have an obligate fetish.

I doubt you're alone either. Most of this board seems to consist of people in your position.


a229d7 (4)  No.65106>>65109

>>65037

Although I don't know much about psychology, I imagine that people think they have non-sexual feelings towards wearing diapers because they have these feelings that you described

>just relaxing, just it being utilized as a relaxation/regression tool

However, I think that's just a sort of facade. It's like someone saying that they like to wear a chastity cage just because it feels comforting to be protected around their genitals and there's nothing sexual about it. But it seems really clear that that's just another manifestation of submission fetishism, evidenced further by the fact that when you orgasm you don't want to wear anymore. I personally feel the same way after I do it too and I also feel comforted by wearing but I would need a very convincing argument to believe that that comfort isn't driven by sexual desires in the background.


42e9ba (3)  No.65109>>65116 >>65119

>>65074

>I was into diapers 5+ years before I hit puberty. It was a deep, abiding drive before it gave me erections.

Yeah, this exactly.

I've been obsessed with diapers for as long as I can remember, and well before I ever did anything sexual or found any people attractive.

>>65106

> evidenced further by the fact that when you orgasm you don't want to wear anymore

I gotta say, I can't really relate.


a229d7 (4)  No.65116>>65120

>>65109

>I gotta say, I can't really relate.

You don't have to.

>I was into diapers 5+ years before I hit puberty. It was a deep, abiding drive before it gave me erections.

I too, was into diapers 5+ years before puberty, although at that time I was orgasming on the thought of using them. However, most research says that children don't have sex drives before puberty despite the fact that orgasm is possible, though that's usually in response to the pedophiles' claims that they do so it may be biased. The point is that when you get loaded with hormones during puberty these thoughts that were arguably nonsexual before aren't so easily distinguished.

I might believe that someone had a completely nonsexual interest in this if they never got erect or sexually aroused by the thought of wearing and the never masturbated to the thought of wearing or other people wearing and on top of that they didn't need diapers to be satisfied. Most people who claim to be nonsexually interested tend to be on the AB part of the ABDL spectrum, because what's important to them is being infantilized which you can completely accomplish without diapers. And even when I see someone who's filled all those categories, I'm not sure what to call it short of a mental disorder if you can't explain it through sexuality.


a229d7 (4)  No.65119>>65120

>>65109

>I gotta say, I can't really relate.

You don't have to.

>I was into diapers 5+ years before I hit puberty. It was a deep, abiding drive before it gave me erections.

I too, was into diapers 5+ years before puberty, although at that time I was orgasming on the thought of using them. However, most research says that children don't have sex drives before puberty despite the fact that orgasm is possible, though that's usually in response to the pedophiles' claims that they do so it may be biased. The point is that when you get loaded with hormones during puberty these thoughts that were arguably nonsexual before aren't so easily distinguished.

I might believe that someone had a completely nonsexual interest in this if they never got erect or sexually aroused by the thought of wearing and the never masturbated to the thought of wearing or other people wearing and on top of that they didn't need diapers to be satisfied. Most people who claim to be nonsexually interested tend to be on the AB part of the ABDL spectrum, because what's important to them is being infantilized which you can completely accomplish without diapers. And even when I see someone who's filled all those categories, I'm not sure what to call it short of a mental disorder if you can't explain it through sexuality.


a229d7 (4)  No.65120

>>65116

>>65119

apologies, adblock seems to be destroying 8ch right now


bcfe2d (2)  No.65127>>65130

>>64998

You are the second type.


bcfe2d (2)  No.65128>>65148 >>65198 >>65233

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Be honest. Do you REALLY think this fetish would even exist if our parents had allowed us to get it all out of our system as little kids?


62698b (2)  No.65130

>>65127

The assertion remains, regardless of your accusations.


a7e4bf (1)  No.65148

>>65128

I think that is actually a really good question, a shame we can only speculate about it.


415b33 (2)  No.65151>>65182

>>64980 (OP)

They should have a open & a non judgemental talk about it.

They should make their kids feel welcomed & loved nomatter what their into.

They should warn them about telling pepole about & never talk to their schoolmates about it because there is a huge risk of bullying.

They should allow their kids to wear diapers if the kid wants it & allow the kid to make the rules about it, if the kid wants to jus wear them & not use them that's fine, if the kid wants to pee & poop in them that is fine too, if the kid wants to go full on baby at home & have their parents baby them & change them that's also fine, it just must be on the kids terms.


cb42f9 (1)  No.65182

>>65151

I have to disagree. I understand being loving and supportive, but "it must be on the kids terms" is bullshit. I'm the parent, I'm the adult, I can be supportive, but I would set boundaries for my child like any responsible person would


3bef9f (4)  No.65198

>>65128

No, but there would also probably be a lot more instances of people wearing diapers for practical purposes, like movie theaters, if the attitude towards them was different.


212a68 (1)  No.65229

>>64985

>I never understood why the fuck anybody would ever do that, there was no part of me that thought my parents needed to know what I jacking off to. I feel like you'd have to be somewhere on the spectrum to consider doing that.

I've thought the same thing for years now. They don't need to know I dress like a faggot when they're not around and they sure as shit don't need to know I want to wear a damn diaper on top of acting like a faggot.


aea72f (4)  No.65233

>>65128

Yes, because some, though a minority to be sure, remember their parents being super permissive. It would still exist, albeit on a smaller scale and would probably be almost exclusively DL since the ABs more commonly had shit childhoods or over-reacting parents.


7b9565 (3)  No.65240>>65243 >>65245 >>65277

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Human sexuality is not self-contained.

Behaviors and emotions that exist in a sexual context can be simultaneously juxtaposed with non-sexual elements, and vice versa. This is ultimately because the human brain is not a state machine; sexuality and non-sexual emotion are deeply intertwined because of their inherent thematic and functional relations as they exist in a neural network.

It's very attractive to say that this fetish is "sexual", and liken any partaking in it to be mere sating of sexual desire, because it's attractive (and trendy) to say that almost anything is grossly sexual, and embracing a fear often feels more cathartic than understanding the messy truth.

Which, of course, is that sexual desire is related to emotional desire, even though they are not the same, and both are capable of producing maladaptive behaviors.

Plenty of prepubescent children can exhibit maladaptive or strange behaviors (including this fetish) that will not be contextualized as a sexual fetish until they reach adolescence and/or incorporate the behaviors into their own arousal models. A child who engages in fetish activities is typically doing so purely for psychological reasons, not sexual ones (namely, it has been written into their attachment model) .

To that end, the ABDL fetish is not hard to unpack. Most commonly, it comes about as the "regression" defense mechanism as a response to parental neglect. Adult babies usually desire to be treated like an infant because, in their own tragic logic, such a state of being is among the only way to receive the love and care they need.

A child acting this way is really no different; they are not getting enough personal affection and attention, and now associate regression with affection (This can be amplified with other experiences, too). Usually, this is a problem systemic in the family, and cannot be resolved without drastic changes in familial behavior. Were I in this situation, hypothetically, it would mean I would have to commit to serious change of my own behaviors. I would re-evaluate how and when I show affection to my child, how receptive I am to their emotional needs, and work on building an association between progression and affection. I would be very careful not to demonize the fetish, because doing so would be to indirectly demonize love itself, and would create a tantalizing taboo for the child that would practically be cemented. In dealing with the topic, I would have to be very careful. Indifference and soft acceptance are probably the best options, as they place responsibility on the child, and create an emotional plateau, upon which I could condition them into more normal ways of seeking comfort and affection.

Ultimately though, there are much worse fetishes and psychological afflictions than being an ABDL. The real tragedy would be not getting what you need. That's what the brain seems to think, at least.


42e9ba (3)  No.65243>>65245 >>65271

>>65240

>To that end, the ABDL fetish is not hard to unpack. Most commonly, it comes about as the "regression" defense mechanism as a response to parental neglect. Adult babies usually desire to be treated like an infant because, in their own tragic logic, such a state of being is among the only way to receive the love and care they need.

Is there any proof of any of this?

And what if I don't have any interest in the AB side of this fetish and I had very good parents.

Why do I care so much about diapers?


e194c1 (1)  No.65245>>65271

>>65243

This,

>>65240

What if being treated like a child isn't the main appeal and all I really care about is that I'm wearing and using diapers


7b9565 (3)  No.65271

>Is there any proof of any of this?

Regression is not a cutting edge theory. It's been a widely accepted and understood principle of modern clinical psychology for decades, as are its typical causes. ABs are just a symptom of regressive tendencies taken to an extreme. After all, it involves literal regression to infancy.

>>65245

>>65243

Great points. The DL side of ABDLism exists within a classification of fetish known as ETLEs, (Erotic Target Location Errors) which is defined as a non-standard systemic tendency to be aroused by entities not directly related to sex. This usually includes either body parts, or inanimate objects/places. Of all the fetishes that exist, this category tends to turn the most heads, as it often includes people who are aroused by quicksand, carnival rides, knees, cars, and much more (including diapers of course). How, exactly, ETLEs come about, is not fully understood, and likely varies from person to person, but there seems to be a connection between emotional developmental experiences and formation of the fetish, even if it eventually appears as a purely sexual fixation.

Diapers, as an erotic target, are extra complicated, because they often include an element of urinal and anal stimulation, both of which can be paralleled with orgasm, and even act as a direct replacement to sex. However, I don't think that this is normally the case with DLs, because the stimulation is only erotic if it's within the context of the erotic target. DLs obviously do not derive the same pleasure were they on the toilet, so the stimulation is mainly a reinforcer for the target. (alternatively, the diapers could be a vehicle for a separate fetish, but that's a different story).

Which brings us back to the diapers themselves. A diaper is a symbol of dependence, helplessness, emotional and cognitive simplicity, security, care, regression, and even taboo, as they are typically made (as well as their functions) to be concealed. All of these are excellent entry points for potential fixation, and given the added bonus of universal familiarity, it's really no wonder why ABDLs are so relatively common.

I should also mention that for adults, consumption of diaper-related pornography, especially for men, can lead to further sexual association that is less related to emotion.


249409 (1)  No.65277>>65285 >>65287 >>65339

>>65240

Yeah I’m calling BS. While the ‘childhood neglect’ explanation makes plenty of sense for some, that’s a huge brush to be painting with. My parents were great and I would say I had a pretty good childhood. There’s zero reason for me to be into ABDL stuff in that case, so why am I then? Plus, that doesn’t even go into the fact that there are plenty who don’t fantasize about doing it themselves, but rather their partner. How do childhood experiences rationalize with thatl?


3bef9f (4)  No.65285>>65287

>>65277

Unless your mother was a stay-at-home mom, there's still the possibility that you were neglected at wherever you were kept at when your parents were at work. Also, when did it start for you? Because if you liked diapers since the beginning but never told your parents, the repression could have twisted the desire as you got older.


aea72f (4)  No.65287>>65290 >>65339

>>65285

Also, for:

>>65277

I thought my parents were fantastic too, because I never had anything to compare them with. Once I got in a healthy relationship with my SO, I realized they were manipulative, awful people- but I couldn't realize that until I left them behind.

My barometer of happiness had been set so low by my shit childhood the freedom of just being able to work a job and get away from them 8 hours a day seemed wonderful. Cutting them out of my lives entirely was pure bliss- but I didn't notice how bad they were for me until I had someone genuinely loving and supportive in my life to compare them against.

Not saying that's you situation, just saying it could be and you probably wouldn't know.


42e9ba (3)  No.65290>>65346 >>65360

>>65287

How were they "manipulative, awful people" in a way you didn't notice until you left?


7b9565 (3)  No.65339

>>65277

I cannot answer the question of "Why am I this way?" without knowing specific details about your own life experiences, and being allowed the time and co-operation to unpack and understand everything in its fullest. And even then, I could only know so much as you care to tell me, or perceive yourself; it is an unfair question to ask. I will also reiterate that I am generalizing.

However, it is important to realize that people do not develop complex fetishes like ABDLism out of solely random chance or mutation; there is almost always a reasonable explanation if you're capable of digging deep enough (and that's a rather large "if").

Childhood is a dangerous time, contrary to popular belief.

If you don't consider your own childhood to have had the same turbulent elements that are associated with ABDLism, there are really a host of reasons why that, itself, could be. As >>65287 says, your perception of your own environment could have been skewed due to lack of exposure to alternatives, with the added perpetuation clause of, if you have a partner, that partner being chosen for their similarities to your attachment models (parents). I would add that it's also perfectly possible (and somewhat common) that you've unconsciously idealized your own childhood for various reasons, or selectively forgotten trauma in an attempt to protect yourself. I, for instance, remembered my childhood as relatively happy and normal, until certain experiences in my life lead me to recover a wealth of vivid memories detailing physical abuse, manipulation, and acute neglect; retrograde amnesia apparently being my unconscious response to trauma. But again, I can't answer questions about your life, only you can do that, at present.

>there are plenty who don’t fantasize about doing it themselves, but rather their partner. How do childhood experiences rationalize with that?

This is another topic entirely. People who desire to treat their partner in a nurturing, parental way are only tangentially related to ABDLism, and typically will use it as an outlet for their desires. It's an incredibly broad category that can include a lot of complicated elements, and is too personal to be drawing generalizations from. Some of these people may have these desires because they wish to sate their own paternal/maternal insticts. Others may have had problems with authority figures as children, and are drawn to ABs as a form of control-based sadism. Others still could have had traumatic experiences related to the abuse, injury, or death of a younger and/or dependent family member, and now use their partner as an emotional replacement. There could even be others that had an abusive parent(s), and use their partner as an object of altruism and/or through which they live vicariously. I could go on all day, but the point is that those sorts of desires tend to be more personal to the individual, as well as in their relation to ABDLism.


5daedd (1)  No.65346

>>65290

Probably his/her SO is manipulative too.


aea72f (4)  No.65360

>>65290

They constantly undermined me and belittled me, ignored and minimized my feelings, and expected me to devote most of my free time and energy to them despite it damaging my ability to get ahead at work.

I thought these things were somewhat normal, i.e. most people are that way, because I spent so much of my time with them I didn't have a good comparison.

Admittedly, this probably affects others on a smaller scale than it did me, but you'd be surprised at what you don't notice because you've been indoctrinated into it since childhood.


beb3c2 (2)  No.65419

>>65104

Did my word choice trigger you


415b33 (2)  No.65647

Put them in diapers.




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