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2d9ec6 (21)  No.62176>>62216 >>62264 >>62312 >>62316 >>62317 >>62335 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So, consider the following:

Let's suppose that you and your wife have way too money in your hands and a countryside house far away from civilization. Let's suppose you two had a newborn baby. My question is:

Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

Because, I mean.. that person would have zero experiences or expectations of what reality is or is supposed to be. You could lie to them, you could create a totally fake reality and show it to them and they would (probably) believe in you.

There's an amazing greek movie called "Kynodontas", which has basically this story. I mean, not the ABDL part unfortunately, but the parents decide to raise their kids removed from society (without watching TV or leaving the house), and the parents had pretty much messed up and changed up their kids worldview and behavior.

2d9ec6 (21)  No.62177

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For god sake, if I was unscrupulous soulless millionaire I would do that just for the curiosity of knowing how society can affect one person's view and behavior!

I was always fascinated by these sort of thing, about how much a different upbringing can affect and shape that person "essence" -- to put this way.

Not just with this pretty peculiar and specific case about infantilism and raising them "to be babies", but things like "feral childs".

Like, what happens if you don't teach a child how to talk during their first years of life, what happens if you actually prevents a child of learning how to talk? This type of thing.

🤔


9af525 (1)  No.62178>>62179 >>62181

No. If I ever actually have a child I want to raise them as normal as possible and not impart my weird fetishes onto them


8bb6b3 (1)  No.62179>>62181

>>62178

Don't worry, literally none of the people who would answer yes to that question have any chance at getting laid - let alone conceiving a child.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62181>>62210

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>>62178

>>62179

I never asked if it was the right thing to do, but rather if it was possible.

People get all moral and outrageous and don't understand the main point.

But, I think it's pretty clear that you can really messed up one person worldview if you get them young and if society/family and their upbringing and their pairs reinforces those values.

Religion is a great example of how society/family can convince people to do crazy things while finding them to be perfectly normal (like, dressing yourself from head to toe even in hot countries, or cutting baby penises and so on…)


dbe293 (1)  No.62183

I'm sure you could get a child to constantly be treated as a baby or toddler for the majority of their lives, I think it's a tossup whether they would like it or not though. I'm thinking it depends on hard you isolate them, whether or not you let them read and write, and what their personality is.

The trade off of isolating them is you're making them entirely socially retarded, they'll probably be much more instinctive in their reactions, like crying and screaming to get their way.

If you introduce them to reading and writing, you'll mostly have to teach them through little children's books, so they'll have a much less extensive vocabulary. Or you could teach them with "real" literature, which might make them more questioning as why the character's lives are so different from theirs.

If you let them run outside a lot on your little countryside estate, they'll be very curious of the outside world, to a point anyway. I personally think it would be a coin toss for whether or not they actually want to see the world, I know people on both sides who are more homebody, or more adventurous. I'm no psychologist though, so I have no idea if isolation kills the instinct of curiosity.

However, I think it will be hard for this theoretical child to per se "like" being treated like a baby/toddler, or at least some aspects of it. Even as an ABDL I loathe the idea of someone forcing me to play with little toys, or forceful napping, it's too boring for me. I wonder if this child would fight against these boring activities, and try to instinctfully do whatever they want.

So that brings me to a question for you, OP. Let's entertain the story that you are a unscrupulous, soulless millionaire like you said. What the hell are you gonna do if the kid isn't putting up with the babying? The kid doesn't like playing with toys, they'd rather be outside? Or they refuse to take naps? You've got a few choices to stop this behavior.

One, you can put up with the child's screeching, ignore them, maybe try to convince them that this is normal. How you will be able to is up to you. Maybe you just beat them silly whenever they act up? Teenager Baby is acting up, so you take out the belt and beat the shit out of them?

How do you deal with this child of yours in regards to physical fitness? Are you gonna starve them just a bit, so they can't fight you if/when they want to get away from you? Because if you feed them too good, in their later years, when you're older, they may be able to actually hurt you. You can't let them exercise all that much either, since they could fight you too.

Another question, what are you gonna do when this child gets sick? Are you gonna pray away the sickness, or waltz into the ER with your diapered 11-year old, and expect no questions to be asked about your sickly, slightly malnourished, weak child? I'm sure your answer is just hiring some private physician, who for some reason is also on board.

The more I think about it, the more sick I feel. I'm sure in a perfect world, where rainbows lead to pots of gold, you could get a child who likes being a baby for their entire lives, but this isn't a fantasy land. It's a human being, flesh and blood, who would be neglected/abused for as long as you want them to be, for your own amusement. There's too many factors for something like this to work out perfectly, you'd be a nutcase caring for a younger nutcase.


b3b355 (3)  No.62186

In principle it should be possible. I don't think it's as simple as convincing them it's normal though. To really induce a fetish like this you'd probably need to give them very specific and intense emotional experiences during their first few years. In order to actually pull it off you'd need an exceptionally good understanding of human psychology and a lot of luck.

Even religions work by indoctrinating children from a very early age and playing on specific psychological weak-points to induce fear and self-doubt. The religions which exist today have evolved through natural selection to be particularly effective at embedding themselves in the human psyche.

However, it would be a lot less unethical to just find a kid who already has the fetish and adopt them. Doing so would still be difficult, but probably easier than becoming a world-leading expert in developmental psychology.


2b378a (2)  No.62210>>62213

>>62181

This sick perverted fantasy of the OP is actually no more sick and perverted as people clipping the penises of their boys - actually, literally subhuman and deserving of capital punishment (muslims, sandniggers, arabs, etc - being circumcised is sign of slavery to all these cultures)


951e0e (1)  No.62211

But why would you?

This shit is like those furries who want to raise their kids to be furries. Stop trying to impose fetishes on your children, it's basically child abuse. If you ever reach a point where you think this is even acceptable (let alone a good idea) commit neck rope.


ea4e89 (6)  No.62213>>62226

>>62210

>circumcision = conditioning/modeling brains

oh /pol/, stop spilling them "truth bullets"


88c878 (1)  No.62216

>>62176 (OP)

Short answer? Yes this is possible. There was a UK documentary about teens who were still breastfed. But why would you want to do this?


62707b (1)  No.62222>>62247 >>62254 >>62261 >>62426

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Okay so this is some down the rabbit hole stuff but on a loosely related note I'm just going to put this down right here and back away slowly…


2b378a (2)  No.62226>>62255

>>62213

If you're circumcised, your opinion is worthless since you're not even a real man.


32292d (2)  No.62239>>62244

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Would I ever actually do this in real life? No. That's insane.

But this is a really big fantasy for me. Not with my own children, but ideally, there would be an estate somewhere where they raise girls into being ideal diaper wives, or diaper slaves. However you want to interpret it.

I think it would all just be basic psychological conditioning. You have girls that are never potty trained, taught that this is normal for them, but not everyone, and just reinforce desired behavior and punish undesirable behavior.

The rewarding of good behavior is actually the key part of it I think. If she associates using diapers and acting cute and babyish with pleasure, there's no reason for her to want to stop doing it in the future. And even if they do start questioning or wanting to explore more of the world as they get older. As long as they still hold onto their babyish identity and positive feelings, it wouldn't necessarily be detrimental.

I like to picture a mansion filled with doctors and strict matronly headmistresses, all involved in raising different kinds of diapered women brainwashed for different roles, all at the discretion of ultra wealthy clients.

Like, if I wanted to order an 18 year old who looks like Selena Gomez and doesn't do much except lounge around the house in thick diapers, play with toys and suck daddy's dick, they could do that. Or if I want something more practical, I can order a brainwashed young blonde woman with perky tits to be my diaper maid and attend to household chores, all while waddling around in her full pants.


252ff5 (1)  No.62244

>>62239

So basically like some kind of Brave New World/Handmaids Tale but with diapers?

Seems legit


c1dc56 (1)  No.62247

>>62222

Looks like Son of Rambo and Unbreakable Kimmy… eh.

I'm gonna watch it.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62254

>>62222

What hell I was just watched ಠ ಠ ?


dbe13c (2)  No.62255

>>62226

As an uncircumcised man I acknowledge my bias while also support this message.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62258>>62270

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>>>62176 (OP)

>Short answer? Yes this is possible. There was a UK documentary about teens who were still breastfed. But why would you want to do this?

sauce, please


7c4113 (1)  No.62261

>>62222

This is a fantastic movie. It's adult but made me feel so wide eyed and little


ddb7d1 (1)  No.62264>>62274

>>62176 (OP)

You got a tumblr name or more pics of her?


fc6b64 (3)  No.62268>>62269 >>62273

>Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

How do you think people end up being ABDL in the first place?


ea4e89 (6)  No.62269>>62271

>>62268

You wanna take a seat, grab a free coffee, talk about it a little? We're all friends here.


483a85 (1)  No.62270>>62319

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>>62258

Let's not let this turn into tard thread 2.0. What is it with you fuckers and trying to enslave retards/spergs/your own kids into these buffalo bill scenarios?


fc6b64 (3)  No.62271>>62272 >>62314

>>62269

How do you think people become abdl, if not that they were raised in a manner that lead to it?


ea4e89 (6)  No.62272>>62275 >>62279

>>62271

It's like reading "homosexuality exists because there are shitty drunken racist redneck fathers with shitty values".

But let's humor this for a while. Like many people I recall a time far back when I already liked diapers; me personally, I remember clearly my mom waking me up one morning being super happy and telling me "well done, you stayed dry all night, you don't need diapers anymore" and all I could think of was "where's the good news?". This happened when I was so young I had no fucking clue a thing like sexuality even existed, and my mother didn't keep me in diapers afterwards nor did she do anything that would trigger a fetish she probably isn't aware of.

You'll see people coming from shitty families, christian families, protective families or even no families with all kinds of different backgrounds, life experiences and so on, and yet they all share the same fetish. Now of course, there's chance that if you walk into your parents doing some BDSM stuff, that will affect your appreciation of BDSM in a negative/positive way, but that doesn't mean every person who's into BDSM had an early age experience with it or were conditionned to be into it.

Sexuality is fucked, there's no point in trying to understand it. If some people think they can trace it back to where it began or how, then good for them; you could still argue the fetish was already there unconsciously, which is why they react to it and develop it later, but I guess that's another debate that I don't feel like having.


56ed35 (1)  No.62273

>>62268

>How do you think people end up being ABDL in the first place?

Potty trainned at 1 year old?


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62274


fc6b64 (3)  No.62275

>>62272

That's sorta my point, how the criminally insane abdl regression/made into a toddler/made into liking diapers/ fantasies contrast with the mundanity of how people actually become abdl's.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62279>>62289

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>>62272

>Now of course, there's chance that if you walk into your parents doing some BDSM stuff, that will affect your appreciation of BDSM in a negative/positive way, but that doesn't mean every person who's into BDSM had an early age experience with it or were conditioned to be into it.

I would like to highlight this part, and weigh in on a little bit. Of course it's not 100% guaranteed that if someone receives a given influence and upbringing through their life this will have the projected and intended outcome, to put it this way.

But it certainly steers them on that direction. I think it's not a coincidence that, for instance, most people who are born in Saudi Arabia are muslims, or that most people who are born in Texas are christians, or that most people who were born in that family who runs the Westboro Baptist Church hate gays.

And just think for a moment about how much religion and ideology affect people's life and behavior. I mean, if you are hindu you can't eat beefs, if you are muslim you can't drink alcohol, if you are a muslim women living in muslim countries you have to cover yourself and yada yada.

These are all pretty wide and big changes in life with huge impacts on a person's life…. it doesn't seem that much different of wearing diapers and baby clothes 🤔 which would also have a tremendous impact on a person's life, obviously

Of course, and I absolutely agree with that, you'll have exceptions, you will have cases that fall outside the rule especially if that person is later confronted with different viewpoints -- I mean one of those Westboro Baptist Church members, she was pretty young, ended up changing their mind and becoming more progressive and tolerant


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62282>>62283 >>62300

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> It's like reading "homosexuality exists because there are shitty drunken racist redneck fathers with shitty values"[…] Sexuality is fucked, there's no point in trying to understand it. If some people think they can trace it back to where it began or how, then good for them; you could still argue the fetish was already there unconsciously, which is why they react to it and develop it later, but I guess that's another debate that I don't feel like having.

Just to finish, a brief comment about this.. I'm NOT trying to compare anything here, but.. I mean, there are tons of people who are molested during their childhood and later on become pedophiles.

There are statistics, people can analyse things to know if it's a coincidence or if people that were subjected to a given experience or influence are more likely to, later in life, display a given sexual behavior.

I agree that sexuality is fucked up, but I think it's fascinating to try to understand it nevertheless. Personally I don't think we are born with some innate set-in-stone sexuality, I think there are tendencies that we are born, but there's a shit-ton of external influences (especially in the beginning of life).

Little personal history here: Aside having a diaper fetish, I have a pantyhose fetish and a crossdressing fetish (I have a lot of fetishes). I slept in my parents room until I was about 10, and I remember seeing my mom getting ready and dressing herself while I was lying in my crib. I remember her pantyhose covered legs, I remember her dresses, I remember my crib.

This is totally the reason for why I have these fetishes, I believe so.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62283

>>62282

about this photo, I know no one cares, but it basically represents all my fetishes, I tried to display, to put it together, all my weird fetishes in a image: the body swap fetish, the vintage clothes fetish, my fetish for little girls and adult women acting like dogs and so on…


ea4e89 (6)  No.62289>>62290

>>62279

>But it certainly steers them on that direction. I think it's not a coincidence that, for instance, most people who are born in Saudi Arabia are muslims, or that most people who are born in Texas are christians, or that most people who were born in that family who runs the Westboro Baptist Church hate gays.

Those are all exterior social constructs, it has nothing to do with an unconscious desire, which sexuality is. If it were comparable then you wouldn't have any gay religious people, since it's so hated among those nice people. Religion is simply a form of culture that perpetuates itself through generations because there are people "teaching" it, and they have limited range to do so (well, now there's the internet, but when religions began it wasn't that simple). On the other hand fetishes sprout basically anywhere without any need to be spread by anyone.

Not drinking alcohol is a choice, having a fetish isn't. Not to mention a lot of those beliefs evolve, change or are simply dropped when a person grows up and gets out of the family bubble. Despite what some people might want to believe, sexuality doesn't work like that.

But who knows, maybe those christian concentration camps that cure gayness actually work.

>Just to finish, a brief comment about this.. I'm NOT trying to compare anything here, but.. I mean, there are tons of people who are molested during their childhood and later on become pedophiles.

Yes, but it's not a 1:1 ratio. Not all child molesters were molested as children, not all molested children become child molesters later on. Again this doesn't work because this has more to do with trauma or whatever, not an expert on the subject. Definitely a subconscious thing, but being raped is a completely different experience that will have heavier consequences, and those consequences are not that simple to predict.

Believing in whatever religion, learning to speak a specific language, basic manners and politeness, all those things have very little to do with the inner self, it's a simple learning process. Praying to Bob Ross and wearing diapers to get some sexual satisfaction are entirely different things, and although sexuality can/will be molded to an extent by your surroundings, it's hardly something you can master and steer the way you want, because it's simply not a conscious thing. Unlike praying to Bob Ross, which you will do for specific reasons (personal or through conditionning), and those reasons might become the reasons why you don't pray to Bob Ross later on.

It's possible that you specifically ended up liking clothing because of your own experience, but a lot of people have seen their parents getting dressed with very little impact on their lives. For all you know, it might have the exact opposite effect on someone else.

Anyway, it's all about the differenciation between what's conscious and subconscious. The bigger part of sexuality is a subconscious thing that many, many people will not even begin to understand throughout their lives.


dbe13c (2)  No.62290>>62297

>>62289

>Religion is simply a form of culture that perpetuates itself through generations because there are people "teaching" it, and they have limited range to do so (well, now there's the internet, but when religions began it wasn't that simple). On the other hand fetishes sprout basically anywhere without any need to be spread by anyone.

I can easily argue the opposite, religion forms everywhere spontaneously and fetishes perpetuates itself through generations because there are people "teaching" it.

This is shown through cultures in Africa that has little to no modern contact still knowing what a Shaman is, but not understanding homosexuality or oral sex. If I still had the pdf, I'd have posted it, but you can look it up.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62292>>62296 >>62298 >>62301

> Those are all exterior social constructs

And sexual paraphilias aren't? I mean… it can be argued that many fetishes are influenced by culture and society (most precisely the way society sees a given subject). For instance, many argue that "crossdressing and forced feminization" are influenced by the way how society see feminine characteristics on men. Femininity is a forbidden fruit for men, in general. If a boy wants to use his sister's clothes or play with his sister's barbies… a lot of parents would get pissed off.

> Religion is simply a form of culture that perpetuates itself through generations because there are people "teaching" it, and they have limited range to do so. On the other hand fetishes sprout basically anywhere without any need to be spread by anyone.

Not the same fetiches and not the same religions pop up abruptly. Let's see how many indigenous people, who live far removed from society are into BDSM. I mean, for instance, there's a shit-ton of fetiches that are pretty popular mostly just in Japan. Isn't just a coincidence that there are so many tentacle erotica there in that small corner of the world?

> Not drinking alcohol is a choice, having a fetish isn't. Not to mention a lot of those beliefs evolve, change or are simply dropped when a person grows up and gets out of the family bubble. Despite what some people might want to believe, sexuality doesn't work like that.

You are comparing two different things here. Drinking alcohol is an action, having a fetish is a feeling. There are people who are alcoholic and they can't just choose not "liking" alcohol, or not having the desire for wanting to drink alcohol. The same can be said about fetishes. You don't choose to like women wearing diapers, but you can't choose not wanting to engage on that fetish.


6c7126 (4)  No.62296

>>62292

>For instance, many argue that "crossdressing and forced feminization" are influenced by the way how society see feminine characteristics on men. Femininity is a forbidden fruit for men, in general. If a boy wants to use his sister's clothes or play with his sister's barbies… a lot of parents would get pissed off.

I don't think that makes much sense at all.

We see an apparent increase in the number of males engaging in this stuff as society becomes more tolerant and accepting of it. Isn't that the exact opposite of what you'd expect if the appeal was just that it's forbidden?

>I mean, for instance, there's a shit-ton of fetiches that are pretty popular mostly just in Japan. Isn't just a coincidence that there are so many tentacle erotica there in that small corner of the world?

I'm not sure what you're driving at.

Something being popular mostly just in Japan could suggest that it's cultural, that on some level there's some amount genetic predisposition toward such things, or some combination of the two.

And then there's the whole can of worms that much of culture is influenced by the genetics of the people that make it up to begin with.


ea4e89 (6)  No.62297

>>62290

>I can easily argue the opposite, religion forms everywhere spontaneously

It does. What I mean is that the same religion doesn't appear at two different locations at once. Of course, historically speaking, religions have existed everywhere at all times, but they're always defined by the location. It's no wonder the three most known religions all share an emphasis on the social side, with a book that gives all truths to be known or a sacred place to meet with your fellow members. Those are all means that simplify the spread.

I guess if we want to play on words, we can say that anyone at any time is able to make up their own religion and believe in it. It still proves the idea that it won't be known by anyone else unless the original believer spread it to other people, and that it was a "choice" specific to a person, since they'll be the only one to know about it. As for fetishes, here we are all sharing the same, and yet I can assure you that if we were all doxxed, we'd realize how different we are, from geographical locations to social situations, beliefs, politics, and so on. Supposedly, no one had to tell us about this thing for us to come to it, and yet here we all are.

>This is shown through cultures in Africa that has little to no modern contact still knowing what a Shaman is

Of course they would. From a purely objective point of view, a "shaman" is a simple title given to a person by other people. It's perfectly reasonale to assume the younger generations would know about it thanks to the older generations (parents or grandparents), especially if they live in a "secluded" society where traditions tend to hold more importance. The meaning of it will depend on the people using the word. However, I, who's not african, had no knowledge of "shamans". It took me years to know the word even existed, simply because I did not live in a society that thought it was important for me to know what shamans are.

In the same way, the word "father" might represent something different to a christian person than to someone else. This is all part of growing up within a specific group within a specific society.

>but not understanding homosexuality or oral sex.

Hard to talk about since I'm not sure what you mean by "understand". I highly doubt you can find a society that doesnt "breed" homosexuality at all, and even if it were possible, it would be hard to prove since homosexuality isn't as common as having a specific hair color, or is still something you'd best not admit (hello Russia, China, and whatever else).


ea4e89 (6)  No.62298

>>62292

>And sexual paraphilias aren't? I mean… it can be argued that many fetishes are influenced by culture and society (most precisely the way society sees a given subject). For instance, many argue that "crossdressing and forced feminization" are influenced by the way how society see feminine characteristics on men.

I don't think you can put all fetishes together and treat them all in the same way. Your example pretty much proves it wouldn't work.

It's true that crossdressing is defined by how society views how one gender "should dress", but I don't think it's entirely about that either. If we go on the forced feminization route, I'd argue there's a pretty important part of humiliation that comes with it.

At any rate, the point wasn't that sexuality is a personal thing without any social component to it. I'm not saying you absolutely cannot be influenced by things around you on a sexual level, or that sexuality is set in stone past a certain age. However, there is a clear difference between a fetish that was induced by an experience in your past and being religious because your family is and always was.

A lot of civilizations and cultures have collapsed and disappeared because there was no one left to perpetuate them, and at the same time, homosexuality has been repressed for a while by a lot of people, and it still exists.

> Isn't just a coincidence that there are so many tentacle erotica there in that small corner of the world?

It'd be wrong to think those fetishes are only popular in Japan, I mean, there a lot of people everywhere who are really into that culture despite not having ever set foot in Asia. As for BDSM, it's mostly a scale of the dom/sub relationship, which is a fairly common thing.

But sure, I'd think tentacle porn is more popular in Japan without any convincing required. Although the question I'm asking myself isn't "is there a spread of tentacle fetish in Japan in some way", but rather "how much does culture affect sexual *freedom*". I've never been to Japan, but I think you can buy hentais and loli stuff in the equivalent of comic book stores without getting a second look. However, go to America, and you'll find people sending you to jail for saving drawings depicting girls that look "way too young". Don't know if you heard about that "Kurt Eichenwald hentai drama" a while back, which was basically a guy tweeting a picture of his browser where you could see his favorite hentai, and said hentai was categorized by news networks as "hardcore pornography". However, when I looked it up, it turned out to be some normie shit, especially considering it was made in Japan (or Asia, atleast). The moral is that Kurt had to come up with a ridiculous excuse to explain what porn he likes, while if that had happened in Japan, he probably wouldn't need to explain why he liked it, maybe just apologize for goofing it. Sexuality is approached in widely different ways.

Obviously I don't know for sure if fetishes are more likely (not exclussive, but more likely) to appear in specific regions of the world. All I know is that I'm talking to people who are most likely accross the world, and they're the same as me on that front.

>You are comparing two different things here. Drinking alcohol is an action, having a fetish is a feeling. There are people who are alcoholic and they can't just choose not "liking" alcohol, or not having the desire for wanting to drink alcohol. The same can be said about fetishes. You don't choose to like women wearing diapers, but you can't choose not wanting to engage on that fetish.

These are indeed two different things. Alcoholism is not a choice but a dependency, at the very least. But refusing outright to drink alcohol because of religion, that is a choice. It's not like religious people puke their guts out if they swallow the tiniest drop of alcohol or anything, it's not motivated by "logic" (no triggering intended). How conscious the choice is, that will depend on each person and how they were exposed to religion. I've seen a lot of muslims drinking alcohol simply because they weren't around anyone that would care about it. Some of them would feel bad about it, some of them wouldn't care at all.

Anyway, dependencies are also different from sexuality. They can actually be treated, and they're not universal. A lot of people drink alcohol without feeling any kind of "need" to do so, just like some people will turn into junkies after trying coke for the first time.

With a lot of work and will, you can get rid of a drug addiction, but I doubt trying your best not to fap to diapered women will do you any good. I also highly doubt some people were born with the addiction to a very specific manufactured drug "in their blood", like some of them argue when they fail to stay on the wagon. Being born with a specific kind of sexuality sounds more reasonable to me though.


b3b355 (3)  No.62300

>>62282

>There are statistics, people can analyse things to know if it's a coincidence or if people that were subjected to a given experience or influence are more likely to, later in life, display a given sexual behavior.

Practically all the data about pedophiles comes from studies where the only participants were convicted criminals, so there's a huge bias. Honestly I wouldn't trust any of the results. The only thing we can say with any confidence is that child abuse is positively correlated with a person's likelihood of ending up in prison.


b3b355 (3)  No.62301

>>62292

>Isn't just a coincidence that there are so many tentacle erotica there in that small corner of the world?

That's actually due to laws prohibiting depictions of genitalia. Tentacles were used to circumvent those laws because they aren't technically penises.


cf88b4 (1)  No.62312

>>62176 (OP)

This isn’t rocket science anon if you find an abdl of the opposite gender raised similarly to you then raise the child you have the exact same way chances are they’ll become abdl too. Consider how many siblings you’ve read of who turned out to both be abdl and you’ll see that the combination of genes and circumstances causes the fetish. Not that I’d suggest raising your child the same if you were abused after all the quality of the person is much more important than increasing our numbers.


32292d (2)  No.62314

>>62271

You're starting with a bad premise. Yeah, I'm sure there can be environmental influences that lead to this, but I think fetishism in general for most people is just an ingrained thing. There's probably a neurological root to it somewhere that just manifests itself in different ways.

For me personally, my earliest memory. Like literally my earliest memory in life. Is just waddling around my parents house in a diaper as a toddler and just, enjoying the sensation of it more or less.


5b8d84 (8)  No.62316

>>62176 (OP)

>

Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

You could probably train them to think diapers are completely normal and that people just fill up their diaper rather than go to the toilet but I think it would be weird to force on your own kid


5b8d84 (8)  No.62317

>>62176 (OP)

>Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

You could probably train them to think diapers are completely normal and that people just fill up their diaper rather than go to the toilet but I think it would be weird to force on your own kid


c6c059 (1)  No.62319>>62401 >>62404

>>62270

Fuck you, the tard thread was hot


6c7126 (4)  No.62335>>62345

>>62176 (OP)

>Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

>Because, I mean.. that person would have zero experiences or expectations of what reality is or is supposed to be. You could lie to them, you could create a totally fake reality and show it to them and they would (probably) believe in you.

I'm positive you could get them to find being treated like a toddler their whole lives normal.

I'm extremely doubtful you could cause them to "like" it, though.

How to put it…

Do you "like" sitting on the toilet to take a shit?

Do you "like" eating with a fork or spoon?

Do you "like" wearing a shirt and pants/skirt?

You've (probably) been raised largely isolated from alternatives to these things. They are normal to you.

Does that make you "like" sitting on a toilet or using a fork or wearing a shirt?

I think it would be a bit like that.


e42f43 (2)  No.62342>>62346 >>62401

I know when I'll have children (especially if it's a daughter), I'll keep them in diapers as long as possible, telling them it's good and normal and she's a good girl for using her diaper instead of the toilets.

I'll also make sure to make her wear short dress and skirt when she's diapered so I can easily check her diaper.

I'll be really sweet to her when she's diapered and treat her like a little bitch when she's not, so it'll ingrain diaper = love deep in her brain and she'll never get over it.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62345

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>>62335

> I'm positive you could get them to find being treated like a toddler their whole lives normal. I'm extremely doubtful you could cause them to "like" it, though.

Hum…ok, ok, I see your point here, and I think you made a pretty good distinction that I should have made. Because.. there's a difference between finding something normal and actually… "liking" that thing (whether liking in the sexual sense or just finding them nice, like "paying attention to that thing").

Like a line that range from indifference to being horny as fuck while wearing that thing….

> Do you "like" wearing a shirt and pants/skirt?

I mean… not in general. It's "meeh", it's not the kind of things you have strong feelings about it, just one of those thing you put it on autopilot in the back of your mind and don't pay attention to it…

But… at the same time, many people especially women get pretty excited buying new clothes or wearing some kind of dress or whatever that make them feel good -- that suits them well. I mean, just look the ton of youtube videos about makeup and fashion that are all around the site.🤔

Maybe you could make/influence them to get interested on ABDL fashion, and to like abdl clothes… but not necessarily to get sexually excited or aroused with that, or at the very least, this would be harder to achieve


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62346>>62357

>>62342

That's absolutely sick and disgusting, people like you are scum of humanity.

please, keep on


c4f905 (2)  No.62347>>62352 >>62355

>Could you raise that child in such manner that they would actually "like" being treated as a baby or a toddler even through their 10s and 20s? Could you inforce and carved out this feeling in their minds?

This question could have ONLY come from some inferior, fake newfag who picked up ABDL as a fun, trendy "hobby". Do you not understand that the majority of lifelong ABDLs are such BECAUSE of abnormal or abusive parenting?

What kind of sick fuck would willingly subject a child to this?

OP Get fucked, kill yourself and never have children.

>I know when I'll have children (especially if it's a daughter)

Don't worry, you don't have a chance at having kids. Kill yourself.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62352>>62368

>>62347

First of all, calm the fuck down -- there's no one here to you virtue signalling.

> Do you not understand that the majority of lifelong ABDLs are such BECAUSE of abnormal or abusive parenting?

And shit-ton of people who have abnormal/abusive parents don't become abdl probably they get screwed some other way, becoming a druggie or what have you

> What kind of sick fuck would willingly subject a child to this?

never said people should do that, but it it was possible.

> OP Get fucked, kill yourself and never have children.

I probably will eventually do that 🤔🤔🤔 So be happy.


6c7126 (4)  No.62355>>62368

>>62347

>Do you not understand that the majority of lifelong ABDLs are such BECAUSE of abnormal or abusive parenting?

What are you basing this on? Is there some poll or something somewhere that shows the majority were abused?

How can you say this with so much certainty?


e42f43 (2)  No.62357>>62401

>>62346

I'll probably use her to pedo-bait perverts, making her wear really short little dresses that make her diapers obvious.

I'll go camping and keep her in only a t-shirt and diaper around family friends, so they can all see what a helpless little baby my diaper is.

When she's old enough to have a boyfriend, I'll make sure to remind loudly to all her friends and boys that she has to wear diapers, or check her diaper in front of everyone.


c4f905 (2)  No.62368>>62396 >>62398 >>62399 >>62401

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>>62352

>First of all, calm the fuck down -- there's no one here to you virtue signalling.

I'm not virtue signaling here, there's nothing to virtue signal about, you're a piece of shit and so is this topic.

>And shit-ton of people who have abnormal/abusive parents don't become abdl

and that will 100% happen once they are taken out of your custody.

>never said people should do that, but it it was possible.

Which is essentially advocating for it when you're talking a hypothetical on a fetish board.

>I probably will eventually do that 🤔🤔🤔 So be happy.

Good. See pic related.

>>62355

>What are you basing this on? Is there some poll or something somewhere that shows the majority were abused?

There aren't exactly a lot of a studies about ABDL out there, BitterGrey has done a few over the years and came to the conclusion it was a small minority of people into ABDL that were abused:

http://understanding.infantilism.org/surveys/trauma_and_exposure.php

But I don't trust the results given they were internet based surveys and aren't published in a legit journal/peer reviewed.

I personally feel like people downplay the abuse they received. It doesn't have to be the stereotype of a drunk asshole father, it can be little shit too.

But that's also why I said Abnormal parenting too. Shit like treating younger siblings much nicer and creating distrust and jealousy, being forced to "grow up" quickly due to parental expectations, parents just not being around very often, parents divorcing, parents teasing/being too negative about bedwetting ….etc. There's plenty of shit people wouldn't call "abuse" that still makes that connection to diapers for us.

Let's think about this logically: Your average, "normal" adult is disgusted by diapers and has NO desire to use them or be around them. You'd have to have had emotional trauma at some point to have the wires crossed to get this (or any) kink.


6c7126 (4)  No.62396

>>62368

>Let's think about this logically: Your average, "normal" adult is disgusted by diapers and has NO desire to use them or be around them.

Most fetishes are reviled or totally not understood by people (the majority) who don't share them.

I don't think that that tells you much about the upbringing of the people that hold them.

Do you think people into furries, inflation, transformation, giantess, bdsm, etc. are all more likely to have suffered 'emotional trauma' than not?

I could maybe accept that people with weird fetishes are slightly more likely to have been abused than the average person without questioning it, but the MAJORITY of people that hold a weird fetish being abused in some fashion? That's well beyond the bounds of credulity for me.

>You'd have to have had emotional trauma at some point to have the wires crossed to get this (or any) kink.

I have trouble accepting this because that does not match up with my experience in the slightest, and I seriously doubt I'm at all unique in this regard.

I am only a DL though. The AB side of things doesn't do much for me. I suppose that could be a major difference, but I doubt it.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62398

>>62368

>Which is essentially advocating for it when you're talking a hypothetical on a fetish board.

theorizing if something is possible

≠ advocating for that thing

go back to twitter, snowflake


793261 (1)  No.62399>>62427

>>62368

You have no evidence or basis to backup that claim. sorry that you have been abused by your parents though…


dd6c88 (5)  No.62401

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>>62368

>You'd have to have had emotional trauma at some point to have the wires crossed to get this (or any) kink.

You sound awfully confident for someone shitposting on an imageboard.

At the very least there's one other possibility: genetics. Given how many of our basic desires and preferences are known to be controlled by genetics rather than learned, it isn't hard to imagine someone randomly being born with a predisposition towards certain fetishes. Their DNA wouldn't need to encode the concept of a diaper - it would just need to increase the pleasure from certain sensations and/or emotional states.

>>62319

Agreed. While doing this kind of stuff to a real kid would be unethical, it's very fun to fantasize about.

>>62342

>>62357

If rejuvenation technology or fully immersive VR ever become available I'd love to do that sort of thing consensually, in either role. There's something very appealing about the total power imbalance. You could do anything you wanted to her, but she'd be equally free of responsibility for her actions. You could confiscate her skirt in the middle of a crowded mall or give her an enema right before her friends arrive for a sleepover because she's your daughter. She could poop herself whenever she felt like it or throw a tantrum for no particular reason because she'd be expected and encouraged to act like a baby.


f4d919 (2)  No.62404>>62406 >>62428 >>62434

>>62319

And yet we wonder why people confuse us for pedos sometimes.


dd6c88 (5)  No.62406>>62412 >>62428

>>62404

Some of us are pedos. I can understand why the association makes you uncomfortable, but I can't help my fetishes. The only thing I can do is make sure I never act on them.

If it makes you feel any better, most normalfags dismiss ABDLs as pedos long before they ever come across an obscure site like this. Usually they don't think beyond, "has a fetish for baby stuff, therefore pedo".


f4d919 (2)  No.62412>>62415 >>62422

>>62406

Yeah a good chunk of people dismiss abdl as pedo before they hit this site. But the thing is homosexuality used to be seen as pedo as well before public opinion changed. So the mob can change their mind on things.

I don't wish any harm to you. I don't even hate you. Cause I can get that the fetish you have sucks and I'm sure that if you could remove it you would. And I really don't have any issue with you as long as no one real is harmed in the end in any way cause of your fetish. But, I really wish you wouldn't talk about it in a place that I feel isn't really for it.


9ef9b5 (2)  No.62415>>62419

>>62412

>Yeah a good chunk of people dismiss abdl as pedo before they hit this site. But the thing is homosexuality used to be seen as pedo as well before public opinion changed. So the mob can change their mind on things.

There is a clear statistical link between (male) homosexuality and pedophilia.

But people wont mention it because its politically incorrect.

We will probably never be able to combat the association but we can make it politically incorrect to talk about it like it is with homosexuals.


707c02 (1)  No.62419>>62420 >>62423

>>62415

it's literally the opposite, actually; gay men are statistically underrepresented in sex crimes against children. it's straight white men who are overwhelmingly committing those crimes.


9ef9b5 (2)  No.62420

>>62419

Statistically they are overrepresented.

50% of convicted pedophiles are gay men. Despite only being a tiny proportion of the population.


dd6c88 (5)  No.62422

>>62412

>But, I really wish you wouldn't talk about it in a place that I feel isn't really for it.

Aside from darknet sites, there aren't really any more obscure and disreputable places to talk about it. This is the place people come when they decide 4chan has too many rules. Hell, 8chan doesn't even appear on google search results. I would post on /loli/ or /delicious/, but the diaper threads on those boards are practically dead.


5ba6c1 (1)  No.62423

>>62419

Have you ever seen to catch a predator? lot a of men after young boys.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62426

>>62222

I just watched it yesterday, pretty good indeed. There's a sort of childish aurea throughout the movie.

i just wish his fake parents kidnappers had diapered him 🤔


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62427>>62474

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>>62399

I'm not, I hope that little fucker got molested by his uncle 👌👌


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62428>>62439

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>>62404

>>62406

I agree with 62406, some of us a pedo. Personally… I'm attracted to innocence, no matter the age, whether the girl is 5 or 25, that childlike way of being.

So, I'm also attracted to little girl who are innocent and so on and so forth 🤔


5b8d84 (8)  No.62434

File (hide): 8411a0c38b0b02e⋯.jpg (53.83 KB, 709x709, 1:1, 1412986271-2.jpg) (h) (u)

>>62404

You're the odd one out here, anon


dd6c88 (5)  No.62439>>62444

File (hide): fca5bd8fda536db⋯.jpg (758.25 KB, 1050x1680, 5:8, konata_morning_diaper.jpg) (h) (u)

>>62428

Personality is important to me, but at the lowest level my brain is hard-wired to find children's facial proportions more attractive than those of adults. I find some adult women attractive in the same way that a straight guy might find some MTF trans women attractive, but the feeling is definitely significantly weaker.

At least the art style in anime aligns quite nicely with my ideal of attractiveness.

Polite sage for off-topic blogposting.


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62444>>62445 >>62448 >>62452

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>>62439

You should try to find some cute japanese baby, there are some that appears to be like 12 🤔


5b8d84 (8)  No.62445>>62448

>>62444

Look into “大人なのに女児服着てる”. I jerk it to their stuff a few times a week. I dumped all of what I have over in >>55711. Anyone interested in young-looking girls (that are legal) should love this shit


dd6c88 (5)  No.62448>>62449 >>62451

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>>62444

>>62445

Thanks for that. I've actually already downloaded all of those images and the girls are pretty attractive. It's a shame that none of the Minimamu JAVs feature diapers.

I don't think it will be easy to find a girl who both looks that young and is into ageplay in real life though.


5b8d84 (8)  No.62449>>62451

>>62448

>I don't think it will be easy to find a girl who both looks that young and is into ageplay in real life though.

Tell me about it, that’d be the dream


08501a (4)  No.62451

>>62448

>It's a shame that none of the Minimamu JAVs feature diapers.

Indeed, I nut to their stuff weekly imagining their girls being forced to wear diapers and used like little fucktoys…

If they actually went ahead and made porn of it, my life would be complete.

>>62449

You never know, I've been lucky a few times. But indeed it's two rare things and a golden combo.


08501a (4)  No.62452>>62454

File (hide): ce39146dba28f41⋯.jpg (179.36 KB, 800x534, 400:267, _ageplay 873264.jpg) (h) (u)

>>62444

Depending on the movie, some even appear to be 8 or 10. Japan is amazing.

Picture related, same girl as you posted. In the next scene she's put on a leash, naked, in a basement and fucked by a bunch of older guys using her in every way possible.

Now just imagine if she was forced to wear diapers all the time and paraded in the street on a leash and wet diapers.


5b8d84 (8)  No.62454>>62456 >>62457 >>62460

>>62452

What’s the source of your pic? That girl is super hot. She would look adorable in a thick diaper. Japs need to get into diapers more


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62456

>>62454

I know, right? There are ABDL japanese videos but they just have a weird/different "culture", I don't know how japanese abdl videos are strange.

I wish abdreams hired some of these childish japanese women 🤔


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62457

>>62454

I know, right? There are ABDL japanese videos but they just have a weird/different "culture", I don't know how to explain but japanese abdl videos are strange: the diapers, the diaper covers, the clothes and so and so forth.

I wish abdreams hired some of these childish japanese women 🤔


08501a (4)  No.62460>>62464

>>62454

> She would look adorable in a thick diaper.

I know right? She's freaking adorable.

The picture is from one of the minimum AV movie, but it looks like their website is down at the moment.

Actually, this actress has dome some proper ageplay stuff with pullup diapers, but it's not really ABDL stuff. Also, it's only posed photoshoots.


5b8d84 (8)  No.62464>>62466

>>62460

>Actually, this actress has dome some proper ageplay stuff with pullup diapers, but it's not really ABDL stuff. Also, it's only posed photoshoots.

Wew, I’ll have to find those, they sound quality. Hell, I’m getting hard imagining a cute, young-looking girl like her in a nice diaper


08501a (4)  No.62466>>62484

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>>62464

It was from this series but I can't find them at the moment. Will post if I bump into them later.


becb3e (1)  No.62474

>>62427

are you sure you're not "downplaying" the abuse that you have received?


5b8d84 (8)  No.62484

>>62466

Sure, that’d be great! Thanks anon


2d9ec6 (21)  No.62505

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