/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover★

As a non-American, suing people seems to be one of America's favourite past times. Can't walk down the streets without someone threatening to sue for something.

I'm no lawyer but this does sound incredibly frivolous. I'm pretty sure copyrights and trademarks don't extend to simple, well understood words and concepts like space. If i recall, Apple tried doing something similar and was shut down because apple is such a common word.

>>50498

There's been some instances where giant corporations have "won" lolsuits regarding trademarks of simple names, for example FaceBook successfully "won" a suit against this one outfit that made an educator's version of FaceBook

But they only "won" because the education software outfit made the mistake of specifically going out of their way to describe it as a rip off of FaceBook and called it TeacherBook and even with that it was a lower court ruling and the education software outfit basically just gave up and decided it wasn't worth fighting for any further.

That's the problem with large corporations, they often have the resources to make everyone's lives a living hell with the court system so sometimes they "win" such cases even when they really shouldn't.

If ABU was doing something really particular with it, like if they had some stylized version of the word, something like "sp a ce" or "sp ce" or even "spaze" or… well, ANYTHING really… but apparently they're trying to claim ownership of the word in any context related to diapers and in any form… which is just ridiculous.

The concept of "space diaper" has been around since NASA's inception and was widely popularized in the public domain after the Lisa Nowak business and it became the diapered butt of every NASA joke.

>>50501

Yeah basically they can hire armies of lawyers to keep the case in motion indefinitely. But like I said in the other thread, this is a patent trolling scenario and most judges tend to throw out patent trolling cases due to their frivolous and asinine nature

People keep posting copyright crap. This is a trademark case. ABU has a case, they'll definitely get past the motion to dismiss. I think, based on prior law, they've got an 80% shot. Can't have such a similar name in a similar product when there's loads of alternatives and ABU was first to market. If I name a burger a "big ol' whopper," you bet Burger King is going to sue my ass and rightly so even though whopper was well in use before Burger King. They got their first. Plenty of examples like that, and there were plenty of other words Tykables could've used to have the same theme.

My only concern is that it will take resources away from tykables, and they are my favorite diaper company right now. I dont want them wasting money on defending something that nobody can own when they could be spending it making even better diapers.

>>50518

I'm not sure why you think they're so dissimilar… they're really not. They both involve intellectual property disputes. The only real difference, legally, is that with copyrights there's zero standards for getting one, where as with trademarks they at least bother to check for duplicate entries.

Aside from that they're both intellectual property disputes. They have NO shot though, because they aren't using the trademark in any distinctive manner.

Ironically it's YOU that doesn't understand trademark law. For something to be a trademark it needs to be somewhat unique, the more generic and detached it is… the less it will hold up in court.

In this particular case there is nothing, literally NOTHING that actually sets their trademark/branding apart from… well, ANYTHING!

They are point blank attempting to claim ownership of any use of the word space in relation to diapers… that's… that's absolutely absurd! I mean it is legally laughable. Ask any lawyer, any judge about this situation and they'll think it's a laugh riot… and not because of the diapers.

>>50518

Trademarks must uniquely identify your product. "Space diapers" have been part of popular culture for as long as astronauts have been doing spacewalks. It's like if a car manufacturer tried to trademark "electric car" just because they manufactured a car covered in lightning bolt logos.

>>50518

Holy fuck just go poop in your pampers you giant faggot.

>If I name a burger a "big ol' whopper," you bet Burger King is going to sue my ass and rightly

"Whopper" is a generic adjective. It only has significance to burgers because of Burger King. "Space" is an extremely generic term and doesn't only have significance to diapers or ABDL or anything like that because of ABU. You can't lay claim to something generic and then sue people who also use that generic term. ABU has no case here ethically or legally.

>I'm not sure why you think they're so dissimilar… they're really not. They both involve intellectual property disputes. The only real difference, legally, is that with copyrights there's zero standards for getting one, where as with trademarks they at least bother to check for duplicate entries.

You've obviously never read cases or treatises on the subject; speaking atop mount ignorance doesn't help anyone. They are very different, people confuse them all the time. Trademark is hundreds of years older than copyright or patent.

>They've chosen a generic/common word, with absolutely no constrained/styled usage other than "muh diapers" and are arbitrarily attempting to demand the whole of reality bend to their will based on nothing other than the fact that they filed for a trademark… which is the legal equivalent of adding a government date stamp.

If registering a trademark wasn't a federal thing now, they would've, in my opinion, win under old common law trademark

ABU put the mark on a product in market first. It's as simple as that. If you're in the same market you cannot use deceptively similar names. If you've read the caselaw on deceptively similar names, you'd realize that "Space Cadet" diapers is clearly deceptively similar to "Space diapers"

Sucks not to be first to market, but confusing the public is worse than just picking a different name and that's why ABU will win.

>>50536

Trademarks must uniquely identify your product. "Space diapers" have been part of popular culture for as long as astronauts have been doing spacewalks. It's like if a car manufacturer tried to trademark "electric car" just because they manufactured a car covered in lightning bolt logos.

If Tykables had come out with a diaper specifically engineered for space-flight use, colored maturely and not for the ABDL market - they might win.

Instead, they came out with an ABDL printed diaper, themed on space travel, stars, etc. and named it "Space Cadet" when there was already a ABDL printed diaper themed on space travel, stars, etc. named "Space diapers."

It's deceptively similar and likely to confuse the public. This is the essence of trademark law.

It's neither here nor there that "space diapers" in the concept of wearing diapers in space existed before because those were made for a very different market than the present case.

Do you see the difference between diapers marketed to astronauts and diapers marketed to ABDL with a space theme?

>>50538

You can't lay claim to something generic and then sue people who also use that generic term.

Somebody doesn't understand trademark law. This is exactly what trademark allows you to do as long as the term isn't intrinsically tied to the product.

Star-Cosmos-Space themed Diapers don't have to be called "Space Diapers" so, if you're first to market, you get the name and no one else can use it.

Just like"Red Lobster" seafood places often serve red lobsters but no one else gets to call their restaurant that.

You may not like trademark law, you clearly don't understand it but, while I despise copyright and patent law, trademark actually serves a f#$king purpose. It's just a name, Tykables should pick something clearly different from its competitor.

>>50540

Wow, not a single argument, that's almost impressive. Stating how trademark works isn't an argument. I don't even know why you're effort posting this hard. You're just writing the same shit over and over again. You're not arguing legally or ethically, you're just rhetorically stating the same shit in different ways.

>It's deceptively similar and likely to confuse the public.

Nope, i've already told you why this is retarded and you ignored it. What's confusing is having multiple space themes on the market with only one company being allowed to use that descriptor.

>This is the essence of trademark law.

No, it's not. Somebody doesn't understand trademark law. The purpose of trademark is to prevent unfair shit like this from happening. Red Lobster made that name synonymous with seafood and it would be unfair for someone else to try and capitalize on that name. ABU has not done anything to differentiate itself with the use of "space" in its products and is clearly using trademark to snub competition. "space" is not just some random word, it's the term literally every English speaking person associates with these themes and it is unfair for ABU to even own a trademark on that term. Further, lobsters are red. To call a lobster red in context of a capitalist exploit is not a violation of trademark law. To call a design that is of fucking stars and planets "space" is not a violation of trademark. What is a violation is naming the product and using that term in the name. Because this incredibly kiked law is not about protecting a specific name, it's about protecting that specific term in context of this business which is bullshit. This is ethically flawed in every way, and i guarantee that if this ends up seriously contested they will lose that trademark because it's blatant bullshit.

What's really amazing is you seem to somewhat understand why a lot of this kind of law is total bullshit but are still going to sit there and defend it.

>>50540

Kiddo, you have no idea what you're even babbling on about and I would highly suggest that you stop spending all time running around online trying to win in the court of public opinion (which isn't going to do you any good) and hire yourself an actual lawyer so they can correct your stupidity before you ruin your fucking company completely.

You seem to have this estranged idea that whoever runs to the trademark office and files first randomly gets control of everything and anything… if that were actually the case… everything in existence would be trademarked.

Every rich person in existence would just hire armies of people to do nothing but randomly trademark shit all day long so that they could control everything.

That's not how trademark works.

Let me explain this to you kiddo, as simply as possible.

Courts group trademarks into four categories, based on the relationship between the mark and the underlying product: Arbitrary or Fanciful, Suggestive, Descriptive, or Generic.

In this case, "space diaper" would be a generic mark. A generic mark is a mark that describes the general category to which the underlying product belongs. For example, the term "Computer" is a generic term for computer equipment. Generic marks are entitled to NO PROTECTION under trademark law. Thus, a manufacturer selling "Computer" brand computers (or "Apple" brand apples, etc.) would have no exclusive right to use that term with respect to that product. Generic terms are not protected by trademark law because they are simply too useful for identifying a particular product.

At ~best~ they could try and claim that since they're not manufacturing diapers specifically ~for~ space that it falls under the category of descriptive mark in that it's describing a characteristic or quality of the product, in this case the space themed print.

But even then, descriptive marks are only protected if they have acquired "secondary meaning".

A descriptive mark acquires secondary meaning when the consuming public primarily associates that mark with a particular producer, rather than the underlying product.

When trying to determine whether a given term has acquired secondary meaning courts will look at the following factors: the amount and manner of advertising; the volume of sales; the length and manner of the term's use and results of consumer surveys.

So even in the ~best~ case scenario, trying to pass it off as a descriptive mark with a "secondary meaning"… it still fails.

It fails because the market does not recognize "space diaper" as product manufactured by ABU, rather "space diaper" is almost universally recognized as… a diaper for astronauts.

Any way you play this… YOU LOSE!

And running around online creating dozens of different accounts and posting anonymously to try and suck your own dick on this issue isn't going to help you in court and isn't going to make you look any less foolish in the eyes of this community and, worst case scenario… the GENERAL PUBLIC is going to catch wind of what you're doing… and that REALLY won't end well for you. But, hey, if you want to turn your business into the laughing stock of all reality… you just keep right on truckin kiddo, just run yourself stupid right tha'fuck on into that reality train. Like I've said before… you just can't fix stupid… some people (you)… you just don't fuckin learn until you RUIN YOURSELF… and that's the road you're on.

>>50540

Oh, one other thing, in order for a mark to even be a descriptive mark… you're going to need something a LOT better than just a print theme… that's not even remotely going to cut it.

In fact "space themed" diapers could easily be classified as generic in their own right. You need something that makes your product stand out beyond just a theme.

If they were imitating the graphics and color (dress) of your product… that would be one thing, but if they're using a space theme with distinctively DIFFERENT looking colors/graphics… no, there is no fucking way in which you can even remotely hope to win. Not even in a million years can you win.

>>50546

>>50545

>It fails because the market does not recognize "space diaper" as product manufactured by ABU, rather "space diaper" is almost universally recognized as… a diaper for astronauts.

Your legal analysis is obviously that of a lay person.

First, ABU is not selling space diapers for astronauts. I've already suggested that, if that were the case, they wouldn't have a case.

ABU is selling fetish/luxury diapers. Do adult diapers intrinsically have anything to do with space? No. Are they made with space-functionality in mind? No. When they say "Space" any person reasonanbly can tell they are referring to motif, not intended usage.

Because of this, ABU is attempting to evoke an idea not normally associated with diapers. They're not trying to get you to buy the sort of diapers astronauts where, they're associating the motif of "space" with product of diaper. Arguably, it's a fanciful mark, but it's certainly suggestive, trying to evoke an attribute not normally associated with diapers.

Now, if a medical company came out with a space diaper that it marketed to astronauts. A plain, functional diaper designed for space travel, I think ABU would have a hard time enforcing the term against them (though it would depend how long and how well known "Space Diapers" were at that point). However, another fetish/luxury diaper is obviously trying to steal this fanciful term- and they'll lose.

>If they were imitating the graphics and color (dress) of your product… that would be one thing, but if they're using a space theme with distinctively DIFFERENT looking colors/graphics… no, there is no fucking way in which you can even remotely hope to win. Not even in a million years can you win.

Sure you can. The name is a big part of the product. Just watch the case, the court will bear out the correct opinion. I've seen trademark infringement wins for less than this.

>>50556

Retard, you can't trademark an idea/theme.

Everything you said is pure fucking NONSENSE!

>>50556

Just to help you out kiddo, and don't worry, I'll put it in "lay persons" terms so even a MORON like you can get it… a trademark is a word, phrase, symbol or design.

It's like Disney can trademark the name Toontown, but they can't trademark the idea/theme of a town with interactive cartoon characters.

Likewise they could potentially trademark the name "ABU Space" but definetly not "Space Diapers"… that's a description, not a name, which falls under the generic category.

The phrase "space diaper" can, generically, refer to a diaper used in space or it can generically refer to the theme of the diaper.

Oh, by the by, might interest you to know I'm screen capping all your fucking bullshit… you know so when you invariably lose I can run around gloating about how right I was and how fucking stupid you were for not listening to me… you know like I did with Honest Matress Reviews…

https://i.imgur.com/DYQG4Mb.png

…not to mention dozens of others before them. This is actually something of a hobby of mine. ^__^

>>50558

>>50557

Kys.

>>50559

>a non american trying to criticize burger law

um no thank you sweetie :)

>>50560

You know the last person to tell me to kill myself was William Atchison… you know the guy who shot up a school back in December before trying out a little 9mm mouthwash…

https://i.imgur.com/3qqcCyj.png

*slowly licks your face*

>>50563

I don't know what impression you think you're giving right now, but the only thing that comes to my mind is "OH GOD THIS CRINGE IS LETHAL THIS OVERLOAD OF CRINGE WILL BE MY DOOM I WISH I HAD EATEN TIDE PODS FOR THIS CRINGE IS UNBEARABLE OH LORD SUCH CRINGE".

"demon_god"

>>50558

>"Space Diapers"… that's a description, not a name, which falls under the generic category.

Are the diapers in space? Are the diapers made to be worn in space? No?

Then they're not space diapers. They're fancifully named space diapers, despite not being made for space because they have cute little moon, planet, and rocket ship symbols on them.

You argument is the equivalent of saying: >Dodge can't trademark it's name because cars can and do dodge things, every car is a dodge car! It's a generic term. Hurr-durr.

Are you the demon_god of ignorance? I mean, at least that would be fitting.

Tykables got in trouble years ago over the name "snuggies". It was much better than Tykables. It was too close to "huggies" so Big Diaper won the case.

I know nothing about copyright law. Either way, this isn't going to stop me from purchasing SDKs. It's my favorite diaper. This is typical business bullshit. I don't care whos in the right or in the wrong. Let the courts decide.

>>50568

There's lots of great names out there to be had. The Tykables team is just incredibly unoriginal.

What on Earth would've been wrong with "Stellar Diapers" it even implies quality as well, lol

>>50569

Stellar Diapers sounds good enough to me. They can avoid all of this hassle by avoiding Space in the name. How many ABDL diaper companies are there? It's just dumb to name your product similar to a product in such a small market; Right or wrong, it's just dumb.

They should be a public suggestion timeline on their site, so someone out there can give them a good name.

The only thing "cringe" is this thread

This is so fucking stupid

Huggies and Pampers have Goodnites and Drynites but they don't sue the other for having "nites" in the other's name

ABU is just making a pathetic show of itself stooping to this petty level

>>50577

No, Huggies has GoodNites and Pampers has UnderJams.

DryNites is a Huggies brand they use in Europe cause', see, if Pampers tried to use a name like that in the US, they'd be sued for trademark infringement.

Did I just blow your mind?

>>50580

Hold up. DryNites and Goodnights aren't just different brands for the same product??

>>50582

I think they are, just different regional name

The best part about this has been watching the way /r/abdl handled Rearz trademarking ABDL vs this Space trademark.

With Rearz the Le Reddit Army was up in arms, crying about how evil Rearz was, making multiple threads about it.

With ABU it's been mostly "Go Casey for enforcing your shitty trademark!" and the mods banning anyone who is critical of their precious ABU.

This was the last straw for me with regards to ABU. I will never give them money again.

>>50586

It's a different issue dumbass. ABU wasn't trying to start a legal war, they asked politely for Tykables to change the name. They rightly got a trademark that was specific to their product - the only adult-diaper product with a space theme at the time.

I don't like ABU's products. I won't shop their either. But, holy crap? Can you not see the difference between the two cases and why most of us have had a different reaction? Are you just a Tykables shill?

>>50587

>It's a different issue dumbass. ABU wasn't trying to start a legal war, they asked politely for Tykables to change the name.

They asked nicely for Tykables to not use a common word they got past the trademark process. It's still fucking retarded and ABU should not have been granted the mark in the first place.

>They rightly got a trademark that was specific to their product - the only adult-diaper product with a space theme at the time.

If this was over say the LittlePawz trademark, I'd agree with you. LittlePawz is a perfect example of what trademarks should be. It's not a common use word that some faggot got past the trademark process.

The only difference here is that ABU already has their shitty trademark…and a legion of dumbfuck fans.

I get that ABU wants to protect their IP, I've got no problems with that….as long as it's not a word that's common….like Space.

Even IF ABU is in the right legally on this, even IF it gets upheld, it's still sleazy as fuck

>Are you just a Tykables shill?

Funny enough, people on /r/abdl called me a Rearz shill. To answer your question, no. I am not. I have not purchased anything from Tykables except a sample pack of the original Waddlers back when they were still branded Snuggies.

>>50588

>people on /r/abdl called me

>people on /r/abdl

>on /r/abdl

>/r/abdl

That explains this stupid argument. Back to reddit with you, scum.

>>50589

>insulting another website

>2018

That explains your stupid reply. Get lost. You're not wanted here.

>>50496 (OP)

and here I am about to restock on diapers. Guess I'll get something else then.

>>50565

I like to try and paint myself up with various metaphors, like the whole "God of humanity's demons" bit… although to be honest I only do that to try and take the edge off and to appear a bit comedic.

The actual reality of what I can do to people is… well, "disturbing" would probably be the most apt description.

The other day someone accused me dissecting someone's soul… which I suppose is a bit better than the usual descriptions…

https://i.imgur.com/N4rIvVI.png

>>50587

They didn't "rightly" do anything, they made like the Fine Brothers and decided to try and play God and it's going to blow up in their stupid faces.

>>50603

>underage

out

>>50590

>implying insulting reddit is a bad thing

>>50603

>namefagging

>acting like a fucking chuuni

>linking to imgur when you're on an imageboard

Why does this board seem to attract all the worst retards?

>>50624

Sorry, but I'm old school, I don't believe in anonymous posting online. I guess if you have shit to hide or you got shit to lose it's important… but don't mistake YOUR particular necessity for anonymity as some kind of "image board culture" or "lifestyle choice".

I mean you're already HIDING, no sense trying to hide the fact that you're hiding. There's nothing worse than a coward in denial.

Also, image boards are TRANSIENT, IMGUR is an image dump site with some level of permanency, so if you want a particular reference to outlast the experied images or to exist on an archival site after the thread goes 404… yeeaaah, sometimes it's better to link off site.

>>50627

Let's just pretend not one person in this board has already figured out you're just a moron with a giant ego.

>There's nothing worse than a coward in denial.

What about attention whores in cancerous places where no one cares about them?

Holy shit, it's fucking Onideus. THE lolcow.

>>50622

That would be super interesting, looking forward to it

>>50633

I don't actually have much of an ego, but I will admit that pretending I have one is most amusing given all the indignant reactions it tends to garner from those like yourself.

Attention whores tend to crave as much attention as possible, they don't care about the source or the quality of the attention at all.

On the flip side I have a VERY small following, which is just the way I like it. Being all "indie" and generally hated amongst the masses is a lot more fun than having legions of dribbling little crotch goblins riding your jock 24/7.

I'll always be more infamous than famous… or at least I hope I will.

If you think I'm craving your attention though, by all means, stop replying. I mean… you do have that choice. It's not like I'm ~forcing~ you to read and reply to my every post, Fumbles.

>>50635

Actually the Kiwi kids apparently decided I was no longer fit to be a lolcow (after I messed with them a bit)… they moved my thread into the "food" section of the site and then started mass posting pictures of food to try and drown out any discussion about me.

I can certainly understand any animosity though I might garner from the AB/DL community… I mean, I did write the Infantilism article on Encyclopedia Dramatica… amongst many others. Crinklemon and that DCrisis guy being the last two articles I wrote about ABs.

Currently my two most popular articles are the ComicsGate one and the one about Renee Bracey Sherman… who threatened to sue me over… although her lawyer backed off in a real hurry after I fired off a counter claim to her bushwa.

>>50637

>Attention whores tend to crave as much attention as possible

Meanwhile, you're being a namefag and a massive fucking autist.

>>50649

Honestly at this point I find it kind of entertaining to watch all the bizarre, psychologically crippled people who end up here. Most boards have one or two notorious shitposters, but here they almost outnumber the sane people. It's not beneficial to take the internet too seriously, so the best thing to do is just sit back and enjoy the show.

I guess psychological damage comes with the territory when you're on a board for people who like to piss and shit themselves in diapers.

>>50655

So obtuse doesn't realize

>>50651

was talking about him.

>>50657

So obtuse you think the Mad Hatter takes shit online seriously. Trust me kiddo, your delusion wasn't lost on me, that's actually what made it so funny.

>>50655

>still "pretends" to have an enormous ego

>>50662

Actually I mostly "pretend" to be a campy sixties super villian… although I guess maybe that's kind of the same thing.

>>50566

Dodge also has an associated stylized text and emblem to go with it and has been around for nearly a century. Its also the last name of the people who founded the company.

In the same way plenty of vehicles can ford a river, but Ford holds a trademark, because the dude named Henry Ford founded a car company using his last name.

ABUs Space Diapers are generic, or possibly descriptive marks at best. A company like Dodge is named after the founders who manufactured car parts, and eventually whole cars. That easily puts it more in the arbitrary mark, or at worst suggestive using your argument.

>>50666

You can't really think trademark hinges on whether the name of the product is the last name of the founder. That's irrelevant.

>>50671

Um, it's actually really not.

It's very specifically a descriptive mark in that it describes the owner.

And it has secondary meaning given that the general public associates the name with the product, based on the advertising, volume of sales, blah, blah, blah.

>>50671

It can definitely help as a legal defense as to why a word is used and pushes it away from a "description what the product does or looks like" (ie: diapers with a space theme) and more towards a "Name of a product that's associated with the creator of said product" definitely moves it towards the arbitrary and away from the descriptive. The name of the creator is arbitrary and is not at all descriptive of the product.

>>50673

>>50672

The court doesn't use a subjective test about how to classify a word used in trademark. If so, people could just change their last name to whatever they wanted to trademark.

If your last name happens to be a generic term within the product you're selling (bad luck) you won't get that trademark. But, what do I know, go read some cases.

>>50676

Um… yeah, actually they do use a rather subjective test about how to classify a word used in trademark… in fact that's the entire BASIS of trademark law (which I already explained in an earlier post).

How tha'fuck stupid are you exactly?

>>50678

Are you the same faggot that posts the Camron comments in threads whenever someone disagrees with you?

>>50540

You're trying to argue against millennial autism, friend. Your logic is no good here.

>>50542

>you're just rhetorically stating the same shit in different ways

Which is funny, because all you've been doing is repeating your feelings over and over. At least his is based on an understanding of the laws in question. You, on the other hand, are overflowing with insincere, self-righteous "ethics" virtue-signalling as an attempt to hide the fact that your indignation is born from brand loyalty and literally nothing else.

ABU has fostered a negative image in our community over the past few years. If the roles were reversed, how many of you would be cheering Tykables on? This isn't about ethics, or even the law.

>>50542

You realize you two are debating entirely different points, right?

He's arguing letter of the law, and you're arguing ethics. How the judge approaches the case will determine which one of you will be right.

>>50711

There are very few judges that are so activist that they'd be willing to risk being overturned on a case as ehem… touchy as this. A judge would want this one quietly and unappealably settled - he or she is going with the letter of the law.

Oh man can I submit this thread for cringe.

So far everyone arguing over trademark laws, some more correct than others and everyone of you couldn't be bothered to read the case document or even be bothered to look up the trademark. ABU trademarked SPACE not SPACE DIAPERS. The word SPACE when applied to adult diapers is not really a description, you know because they aren't designed to go to space, and NASA diapers are called MAXIMUM ABSORBENCY GARMENTS.

Having said that this is interesting and I hope to see how it turns out. Although, I have a feeling it will be settled out of court with Tykables changing the name.

>>50710

>hide the fact that your indignation is born from brand loyalty and literally nothing else.

i love when consumerists project their own shit onto other people, i don't give a shit about any of these people at all, i haven't bought products from either of them

>>50711

>letter of the law

>ethics

These are not at all mutually exclusive. I don't know why in the fuck you think they are.

But he's not arguing law at all. He's pretending like he is but he has no idea what the purpose of trademark is or how trademark functions as a bureaucratic instrument. The assumption that all of you seem to have is that because the trademark exists that must mean that it is justified in existing or will ever hold up if contested. That's not true. Most of this shit is simply filed and everyone moves on after that until it is contested. Now unless the case for violation is very cut and dry nobody is going to really contest the trademark itself. But here the trademark itself is very weak. You don't even need to contest the violation, you would contest the trademark itself.

Both of you who responded to my post seem to have a problem with the "ethics" i'm talking about. Trademark is entirely about ethical application. That's half of what the other idiot's argument is, he's just incredibly biased to ABU for some reason.

>>50713

If that's really the case then they've already lost twice over.

That would be like Apple (the computer company) trying to sue someone for making a screen saver with floating apples (that don't look like the Apple logo) and calling it, "The floating apple screen saver."

One side is basically trying to say that it's the name of their product/company… and the other side is using it as a descriptor to explain the theme/design of their product.

Tykables isn't using the word "space" as the name of any product, they're using it as a description of a product they're selling.

And given the generic nature of the word… not only does their trademark not even hold up on its own, it doesn't even hold up in the particular context to which they're attempting to apply it.

They've ~literally~ lost their case TWICE over! LOL

Why is Snug- er Tykables always riding that copyright line? If I was them, I'd just change the designs, I mean you wouldn't come out with a dinosaur print after Magnifico or safari print after Rearz Safari, like what they had with Overnights was good with bland designs and fading stars, now it's all anime like every other brand with furryized art on it, as much as I don't care for ABU, Tykables seems to be riding their ass a little bit when they could just do their own thing.

>>50724

Yes because only one diaper maker should be allowed to have space themed prints… free market… pffft, screw that, monopolies only in this community!

In other exciting news ABU has trademarked the word "diaper" in relation to adult babies and is now demanding that all other adult baby diaper manufacturers immediately cease production.

>>50724

The design of the diaper isnt the issue. Its only the name, they could call it Cosmic Cadets and ABU wouldn't be able to sue.

>>50726

Trademarks specifically dont allow the mark to match the item sold. So you cant call yourself diapers AND be protected if your industry is diapers.

>>50716

ABU SELLS "SPACE" AND TYKABLES IS BRINGING "SPACE CADET" TO MARKET SOON. BOTH ARE DIAPERS AND HAVE A SPACE THEME.

Space is not being used as a descriptor, its the name or in the name of the fucking diapers.

>>50733

I hate to break this to you, but in the eyes of the law "space" and "space cadet" are two entirely different things. Ironically, Tykables actually could potentially trademark "space cadet" where as ABU's "space" trademark is entirely generic.

>>50736

>I hate to break this to you, but in the eyes of the law "space" and "space cadet" are two entirely different things. Ironically, Tykables actually could potentially trademark "space cadet" where as ABU's "space" trademark is entirely generic.

It's really not, "Space Cadets" is deceptively similar to "Space" and, as such, is trademark infringement. Repeating the same argument over and over simply doesn't make it true.

I've been arguing from the beginning knowing that ABU only trademarked "Space" and I think every else arguing for them knew as well. It's just you same-fagging, reddit-loving retards pretending like it was some sort of revelation.

LAST TIME: Although diapers can be used in space, it doesn't make them "Space Diapers" just like engines are used in Space but if you made a super-cool car engine and marked it with stars and a theme somehow and sold it as a "Space Engine" you'd totally have a trademark to it- specifically because it wasn't intended or sold to people who planned to use it as an engine in space but rather, a car engine with a cool space theme.

TL; DR - Shut up, fag

>>50745

>Can we all just agree that ABU is the asshole here?

No. ABU made space/stellar/cosmos themed diapers first, chose to call them "Space" and, thus are entitled to the word. 2nd comers pick a different word, no big deal. This isn't something intrinsic to fetish diapers like ABDL is. ABU is in the right legally, and I don't think their desire that 2nd comers use a word other than "Space" is that restrictive, there's literally dozens of other good names.

>Stop trying to use an ethical argument when the actual violation of trademark ethics is using the trademark system to snub competition by stopping everyone else from using this generic term that anyone would use to search for space themed diapers.

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>50750

>ABU made space/stellar/cosmos themed diapers first, chose to call them "Space" and, thus are entitled to the word.

kill yourself

>>50750

You have to appreciate the irony of just how… infantile these kids sound. They're all like, "WE WERE HERE FIRST!"

>>50762

the world ain't a high school debate club, bubby. when in rome, speak roman or whatever

>>50762

Well you know I tried throwing out some irrefutable arguments and facts, but then you ABU ass sniffers started whining.

So then I tried making some crystal clear analogies and comparisons to the point of weeding out every naysayer except the ones suffering from cognitive dissonance… and still you whined like a bitch.

So… at this point… yeah, relentlessly mocking you is the most deserved response I can think of.

I'll tell you one thing though… ABU's fantards are thirstier than their diapers! :D

>>50764

>I'll tell you one thing though… ABU's fantards are thirstier than their diapers! :D

Amazing how much fanboyism is the same if it's gaming or fetish products.

"No, my corporate overlord of choice can NEVER be wrong!"

Even IF ABU is right legally, that doesn't mean it isn't a dick move. Casey is a greedy douchebag faggot and needs to be called out for it.

I hope Tykables fights it and forces ABU to abandon the trademark

>>50767

>Amazing how much fanboyism is the same if it's gaming or fetish products.

>"No, my corporate overlord of choice can NEVER be wrong!"

>Even IF ABU is right legally, that doesn't mean it isn't a dick move. Casey is a greedy douchebag faggot and needs to be called out for it.

>I hope Tykables fights it and forces ABU to abandon the trademark

LOL. There are at least three posts stating they don't like ABU, they just see its point legally. I'm in that camp. I used to buy ABU but I find it's product lacking compared to Bambino. That being said, they're still in the right over the trademark issue.

You're just projecting..

>>50768

>Rearz ATTEMPTS to trademark ABDL

>Autists sperg out "OMG, boycott Rearz, fuck them ABDL is a common use word!" "Rearz just wants to abuse the trademark system to use ABDL exclusively!"

>ABU uses a trademark they secretly got on a common use word to ACTUALLY sue a competitor

>"Well akshully ABU is in the right here!"

Yep, nothing to see here, just projection and not blind fanboys who don't understand shit about copyright/trademark law!

>>50768

No, they're not. It's a generic trademark, they automatically lose. It's not distinctively descriptive in ANY way whatsoever and, even if it was, that's STILL not enough to uphold the trademark on its own as they would need "secondary meaning" for a descriptive based trademark. They don't have the sales, the volume, the marketing, the length of use, or the public perception/knowledge to establish "secondary meaning" under a descriptive use.

But hey, let's see you prove me wrong, kiddo! Tell us all what criteria they can use to establish "secondary meaning".

Oh, that's right, you ALREADY PROVED THEM WRONG in saying that no one agrees with them, even the ones who think they might have some kind of sneaky, "I got here first." legal doctrine to hide behind.

You're saying that even THOSE people don't agree with what they're claiming, thus firmly establishingly ZERO "secondary meaning" as far as public/consumer perception.

>>50771

>>50764

>>50761

>>50736

>>50716

>So… at this point… yeah, relentlessly mocking you is the most deserved response I can think of.

I'll agree with you on this.

Haha look at this legal retard. HurrDurr I think the law works like this and will pull out faulty analogies, despite the fact that people with more knowledge on the subject keep pointing out how wrong he is. He probably sucks on Alex Jones' miniscule cock, licking up every drop of "facts" that global warming is fake. He probably likes reddit where he has multiple accounts to downvote others and upvote himself.

>>50761

…That's exactly how trademarking works. The word Space was not taken within the realm of adult diapers. It is a term for a specific product with wasn't in use before. Now that Tykables has infringed on that trademark, ABU must enforce it or they lose the trademark. There are plenty of viable synonyms that will work here. Honestly, cosmic cadet is a better name than space cadet anyway. There is an insanely clear difference between ABU trademarking a genericish product name within a specific realm where it had seen no use before, and Rearz trying to trademark the name for the entire community which has been in use by every big abdl company since bambino entered the market all those years ago.

>>50762

You're not even arguing, faggot. You just ignore every argument you can't easily say "no" and use rhetorical bullshit. I sure this makes you seem smart on facebook or reddit but everyone can see right through that smokescreen here. Being able to spew a paragraph of nonsense is not substitute for substance.

so yes, kill yourself

>>50780

>a genericish product name within a specific realm where it had seen no use before

That's just flat out fucking wrong. Even if nobody had made a space diaper before that shit is pretty standard in ABDL theme, let alone just a standard theme in general. More importantly it's the keyword for anyone searching for this theme. To name and trademark your product simply "space" is unethical and I would say blatant abuse of the trademark system. You're absolutely retarded if you honestly think that "cosmic cadet" is a comparable thing. It's the difference between "dinosaur" and "prehistoric animals" when people search for a product. Pretending otherwise is entirely dishonest. Your entire argument here is built on dishonestly.

>>50794

>argues ethics on 8chan

Implying

Go back to Reddit, you obviously made a wrong turn.

>>50780

Oh well you should be able to ~easily~ cite your source on this! Go ahead, post the link to this, "I got here first!" legal doctrine as it applies to trademarks!

*crickets chirping*

Sorry kiddo, but applying first doesn't guarantee anything. That's like the ENTRY requirement, that's the requirement just to get your foot in the door.

Maybe that's the problem though… you're just so stupid that you can't really THINK beyond just the first step. It's like you went to a site explaining trademark law, got to like the first or second sentence… and then you just got bored and said, "Oh well I understand all this!"

>>50797

It doesn't take a legal expert to understand literally the most basic part of the trademark concept. The person who is granted the trademark is given exclusive right to use that in relation to that good or service. ABU didn't register this trademark recently. They filed in 2015, and it was officially registered in April 2016. This has been owned for a while now.

On "I got here first" legal doctrine:

http://tcattorney.typepad.com/ip/2012/03/trademark-rights-first-to-file-versus-first-to-use.html

http://legalteamusa.net/tacticalip/2013/04/01/trademark-law-first-to-use-v-first-to-file/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Fundamental_concepts

The actual trademark:

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4802:vx1ixv.6.363

>>50810

Are you fucking retarded? YOUR VERY FIRST LINK DISAGREES WITH YOU!

Hurr durr…

This is a common question that I get, “Is it enough that I was the first to file for trademark registration in the United States?” Put another way, “Does it give me the rights that I want?” And THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

>>50812

Long answer is must be first to use. Which ABU was also first to use. Try reading the whole thing. I understand it's a bit of a jump from your usual fair of "Go, Dog, Go."

>>50816

That's exactly what *I* said in the first place you fool!

Being first is just putting your foot in the door, it's the first step, it does NOT however mean that what you trademarked has any legal standing by default.

They will let your dumbass pay them money and trademark just about anything as the only thing they do is check for duplicate entries to make sure you're first… that's it… filing for a trademark does not inherently mean that your trademark means shit in the eyes of the law.

It's basically the legal equivalent of date stamping… that's it. You gawd damn stupid fools running around thinking ABU has somehow magically won just because they got that proverbial date stamp just makes you look like idiots.

>>50817

No, we don't think ABU won by the date stamp. We think they won because they were the first to market a space/cosmos/etc.-themed diaper and called it "Space." That's why they win under U.S. trademark law; although it was also smart to register it.

>>50818

This retard is all, 'We don't think they've won by registering it first, we think they've won by registering it first.'

Seriously, you can't fix stupid I guess.

Maybe this can work to my advantage though… how much would you like to WAGER that ABU loses?

I mean, let's see you put your money where your MOUTH is. It doesn't have to be a big wager either… say uh… $10

How about it, Mouth… wanna back up your bullshit with some green?

>>50812

>>50817

So… now your argument is that ABU wasn't the first to use Space as a name for diapers and all they did was file first, the reason Tykables will win is because they have been using Space as a name on their diapers for decades now?

That's not even what is being argued and is completely irrelevant because ABU was first to use and file. Space is an arbitrary word when used as a name for diapers, and since ABU was first to use and file they were granted the exclusive right to ownershipe of Space when applied to diapers, which means Space clothing and Space yoga and fitness can never make diapers.

>>50819

500 USD to United for Puerto Rico

If Tykables changes the name from Space Cadet to anything its your responsibility to pay up.

> future prediction

You won't

>>50822

I don't have $500 in spare cash, I live paycheck to paycheck, but if you want to make it a more reasonable amount, like say $50, I'd gladly take the bet that ABU will lose their lolsuit against Tykables.

>>50826

Fine, 50$

Conditions as written here >>50822

Tykables keeps Space Cadet, I pay.

Tykables changes the name, you pay.

http://www.lawyersandliquor.com/2018/02/fetish-friday-trademark-infringement-and-the-abdl-community-part-2/

>>51120

My response…

Sorry, but you're flat out wrong. It's not an "arbitrary mark" because "space" and "diapers" go hand in hand… in fact a search for the phrase "space diaper" or "space diapers" will bring up, unsurprisingly, a myriad of links and images pertaining to Lisa Nowak, NASA patents, comedy routines, dozens and DOZENS of examples that predate ABU's usage by DECADES.

If you ask any random person on the street what they associate "space" and "diapers" with… I guarantee almost every single person will either say NASA or will mention Lisa Nowak. It is THAT ingrained into society, it is not "arbitrary" at all. If you traveled back to before Apple even got started and you asked any random person on the street what they associate "apple" and "computers" with… they'd be at a loss for words.

You are not a very good lawyer and you do not seem to understand intellectual property rights even in the slightest which is probably why you're left writing drunken articles about shit you know nothing about.

It's funny watching this demon god guy just keep being wrong lmao

>>51137

If he's wrong then refute him. Otherwise shut the fuck up and go attempt suicide for the fifth time today.

>>51140

I'd say "onideus pls", but I don't think he has the mental faculties to stop namefagging.

>>51140

What's especially hilarious is that these kids now have Chris Jones trying to argue the merits of their case for them… the guy who got sued for slander and libel and somehow managed to LOSE! For $10,000 I might add.

I mean that's like getting arrested for jaywalking and somehow screwing up so badly that you wind up serving time in prison over it… and that's the guy they got defending them at this point. LOL

>>51165

Pay up! Tykables removed "space" from the name.

PROOF:

https://tykables.com/collections/diapers/products/cadet-diapers

>>51398

That's to comply with the TRO you idiot. They went to court the other day for the preliminary and the actual case is set for like a couple weeks into March. Tykables has got William McGrath, a well known Chicago IP attorney at the helm… yer gonna lose.

…especially after I get done writing a letter to to judge pointing out all the shady shit ABU is currently doing, along with some interesting research regarding the case, like how our community has always referred to their products as "ABU Space" and no one, not EVER has referred to them as "Space". Closest you can find is some very limited usage in regards to "Space Diapers", but our community has traditionally called them "ABU Space"… so even with the overly generic name they want to monopolize… they can't even get anyone to actually use it, despite however much they've spent marketing wise.

>>51407

I doubt your letter will hold sway over the hearing, mate.

>>51410

You think so, huh?

>>51407

The judge right now is either questioning the mental capacity of ABDLs or laughing his ass off.

Most likely both.

>>51420

Her, the judge is a woman. And she was seemed more annoyed over the whole stupid thing, like having to deal with such an infantile dispute was wasting the court's time… which it is.

>>51407

>…especially after I get done writing a letter to to judge pointing out all the shady shit ABU is currently doing, along with some interesting research regarding the case, like how our community has always referred to their products as "ABU Space" and no one, not EVER has referred to them as "Space". Closest you can find is some very limited usage in regards to "Space Diapers", but our community has traditionally called them "ABU Space"… so even with the overly generic name they want to monopolize… they can't even get anyone to actually use it, despite however much they've spent marketing wise.

Imagine being THIS autistic. Can you imagine this judge seeing Demon_God's letter?

"Oh fuck, this Demon_God guy wrote us a letter telling us shit that if it were relevant Tykables' attorney would've brought it up in court. He must know MORE than not one, but 3 prominent IP attorneys. Case Closed, ABU, go fuck yourselves!"

>>51137

>It's funny watching this demon god guy just keep being wrong lmao

He's the worst kind of idiot, the one who thinks he's smart when in actuality he's just a sad little /cow/ playing pretend at being intellectual.

>>51143

>I'd say "onideus pls", but I don't think he has the mental faculties to stop namefagging.

He wrote his own ED article, he's an attention whore. How pathetic do you have to be to write your own ED page?

>>51420

>The judge right now is either questioning the mental capacity of ABDLs or laughing his ass off.

>Most likely both.

If not before the letter, than certainly after!

>>51422

>Her, the judge is a woman. And she was seemed more annoyed over the whole stupid thing, like having to deal with such an infantile dispute was wasting the court's time… which it is.

According to the 3L that posted the summary on Reddit, it appeared more that it was an open and shut case wasting her time….in ABUs favor.

If it was open and shut in favor of Tykables, she would not have approved the TRO.

Cry all you want, ABU is legally in the right here. They have their shitty trademark and they've been using it long before Tykables.

Does this mean ABU isn't shitty for getting the Space trademark? No.

Could Tykables have a case against ABU and get the mark vacated? Maybe, depends on how much they can afford to spend on legal fees.

This was all just a power play by ABU to force Tykables to settle (which they will, because it is FAR cheaper)

Is one lolcow's letter throwing a tantrum about ABU going to change any of this? NO.

How much you want to bet when Casey announces a settlement was reached on Reddit, Demon_God will backtrack and say he never intended to actually pay any money?

>>51424

You see what this guy is doing?

This is how you can tell when someone is going to lose a court case… because they always automatically assume that the judge is on their side and is secretly rooting for them.

Two things that are wrong with that… one, judges are impartial. Two, judges often pull this sort of "two-faced" routine, where it seems like they're siding with one party, or favoring one party, but then at the last minute they suddenly switch gears and rule in the opposite parties favor.

Part of the reason they do this is a psychological tactic to sorta "lesson the blow" to the losing party. So even though one party loses they won't feel like the judge was totally against them, which can help to avoid problems/accusations later down the line.

In this particular case though I'm afraid the judge was showing equal contempt of both parties, primarily in their inability to settle the dispute on their own without needing the court to solve it for them.

But the fact that ABU, their "friends" and shills all ~think~ that the judge is siding with them and the fact that they ~think~ they're automatically going to win without a fight… yeah… they've already lost.

The fact of the matter is, Tykables isn't as foolish, while ABU is going into the case thinking it's already in the bag, Tykables is going into the case ready to hammer out every argument under the sun, they're expecting a BATTLE… and that attitude will win over the judge's favor.

If all ABU has for their defense is, "Look at the 3 high priced lawyers we hired, give us our participation trophy!" …that's just going to piss the judge off, like, A LOT!

Also, no child, I will not be signing it as "Demon_God".

And as for the rest of your attempt at poisoning the well and outright character assassination… well I can only hope ABU tries something similar with Tykables, because that will ALSO piss the judge off… like, A LOT!

Resorting to personal attacks, of any sort, when dealing with the law… is one of the most foolish things you can possibly do.

I can just imagine YOU writing a letter to the judge, screeching on about someone you call "Demon_God" on the Internet and how they're this and that and blah, blah, blah… and then randomly shitting your pants over some Encyclopedia Dramatica article, like any normal/average person even knows what the hell that is.

Yeah, good luck with that, kiddo!

>>51430

Stay mad, Matthew. Hope you stacked up on those Space Cadet diapers, because you're never ever going to be going to be able to buy them again under that name.

>>51430

whatever you say, child molester

>>51431

>>51433

The only ones here who seem mad is you kids. I mean you're frothing on about an Encyclopedia Dramatica article and screeching out random accusations because apparently you can't even counter ONE single argument I've made in this whole thread.

I mean the case of the "Jeans" Huggies alone effectively ends your side outright… you have NOTHING to counter that.

Coincidentally, as someone who has written a great many articles for Encyclopedia Dramatica… I know quite a bit about IP law, because I routinely have to defend my work…

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Renee_Bracey_Sherman

There's nothing to stop angry kids like yourselves from trying to abuse the legal system…

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/File:Renee_Bracey_Sherman_-_Copyfraud.pdf

Except for people like me…

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/File:Renee_Bracey_Sherman_-_Counter_Claim.pdf

If I were you kids… I'd stop with your failing attempt at winning over community favor and figure out how you can reach a settlement with Tykables… or else be prepared to pay me $50… you can find my mailing address in that counter claim link… cash or check is fine.

>>51435

>as someone who has written a great many articles for Encyclopedia Dramatica… I know quite a bit about IP law,

And when you think you haven't read the stupidest thing on the internet, someone hits a new lot of retardation

>>51437

>>51439

Let's help you feel stupid…

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/encyclopedia-dramatica-copyright-lawsuit/

That's the most recent case we've won… well, mostly won, for some reason the guy is suddenly trying to throw out reconsideration motion…

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/encyclopedia-dramatica-copyright-lawsuit/

You kids must be pretty ignorant if you're not familiar with ED's seemingly endless run ins with the legal system.

Oops, wrong second link…

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/20759456/Monsarrat_v_GOTPER606700001_DBA_ENCYCLOPEDIADRAMATICASE_et_al

>>51440

just a quick question your majesty, how do you find the time to write walls of texts/stupidity nobody reads/cares about considering the amount of kids you rape and murder

>>51440

>we

This is like claiming you run a successful business as an author because you edited wikipedia once. Faggot you don't own ED, nor are its legal team.

Just the levels of delusional autism here are astounding.

>>51451

I see no question, I do see a rape of the English language though.

>>51452

Never said I owned ED you idiot and every person who has ever claimed to have owned ED… well… things never turned out so good for them.

>>51454

Writing an article about your own autistic OC doesn't make you involved in their copyright cases at all.

This is why we need to let NEETs on disability die off.

>>51455

Given that the copyright cases have involved material I uploaded and wrote… mmmm… yeah, yeah they kinda do actually.

>>51453

I'd have a hard time to see questions too if I was spending my entire life molesting little boys

>>51458

So molesting children is how you explain your inability to master elementary level punctuation?

>>51458

Oh, by the by… "little boys"… that's… oddly specific for a random accusation. Why don't you show us on the dolly where the bad person touched you.

>>51459

so you just confessed being a child rapist

>>51461

Apparently pronouns are also beyond your reach.

It's the "you" part… I think that's where you tripped up… maybe if you try and stop thinking about molesting "little boys" you'll have more focus.

>>51462

even pauly shore is funnier than this

whatever you say, little blonde blue-eyed boys rapist

>>51464

Why on earth do you think I'd be trying to entertain a "little boy" rapist like you?

>>51457

>I uploaded and wrote

Hahaha, wow. Now ya didn't autist. You are really desperate to try and pretend your life has any worth or meaning aren't you?

Can't wait til Trump cuts leeches like you off so we can laugh as you rot in the street.

>>51467

Right, like the counter claim I linked to ~doesn't~ have my name and address in it. Not to mention the "John Does" were removed from the Monster Rat case after I claimed to be the one who uploaded everything. Or the fact that the submitted evidence from Monster Rat contains screen caps listing me as an admin.

DUM DUM DUM DUM

Seriously, is there like an award for stupidity you're vying for?

>>51468

"everyone is stupid and retarded and a child molester but me"

>>51468

Nope. No Matthew Moulton, apparently some diaperfag who used to pay ED admins after the original went down and it stopped mattering to be unbanned and apparently only "claim to fame" is being outted as a diaperfag for trying to claim credit for shit he had no involvement in.

Seems par for the course.

>>51470

>>51469

Look kiddo, I realize you're posting anon, but that hardly makes you "everyone", despite whatever delusions you're having.

>>51470

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3dhSnEtdWw

>>51468

I'll agree with you fatty matty if you cut me some of your disability check too.

Seriously, who's so pathetic as to start offering bribes to websites like ED after they stopped mattering because they have nothing else in their life.

>>51472

I'm not on disability you retard.

Also, the most I gave Brian was… a dollar.

Mmmm, I did give Ryan $50 though. After he got arrested, for his legal defense fund.

I also paid for the original setup/hosting after Sherrod ran away, which was like $200… oh and I also supplied the primary backup used to restore the site. In fact, at present, I have the most complete archive of the site.

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Onideus_Mad_Hatter

Apparently this is all this autistic kid can do. Join new forums, pretend to be important by name dropping shit so old and irrelevant it's laughable, and failing to act as edgy as a diapershitter can try, until he's eventually banned and vows revenge.

He's been unemployed since dropping some actual hackers name, so they sent all his horrendous obese diaper pics to his employers at Wal-Mart.

This is fuckin hilarious.

>>51480

>the last time I held a job was during the Bush administration; that I lost for pretending to he important and got my diaper faggotry outted for trying to take credit. Haha I showed you!

Seriously going to love the melt down as this guy spirals down further.

>>51481

It's a wonder how that trainwreck hasn't exploded yet

>>51482

If ED still mattered, I'd screencap this and hope getting rejected even from anonymous diaperfags will help tip him over just enough to do this obsession with school shootings he probably has.

Hey Fatty Matty, how you feel about Paw Patrol?

>>51481

>>51482

I like how they're circle jerking each other for support.

Still waiting for one of you crotch goblins to try and refute any of the arguments I made about ABU vs Tykables.

I guess obsessing over my Encyclopedia Dramatica article is all they've got left though. Not a big surprise, you can't help but do what you were designed to be, Hatter Addict.

>>51484

ZOMG HE'S TAKING THE SCREEN CAPS!

Oh shi- boy I'm in trouble now! He's totally going to expose me to the "diaperfags"… says a diaperfag posting on a diaperfag chan board asking me about his favorite diaperfag cartoon show.

>>51485

>blablabla still projecting because it's either that or eating a bowl of tide-pods

>>51485

>p-p-puh-leeze take me seriously! I have nothing but claiming I'm the saviour of some irrelevant website i bribed to be unbanned to claim myself as an expert in IP law

>>51491

>>51488

Are you still pretending to be two people? Where's your counterargument, Downs? Did you forget where the fuck you were at? You're on a DIAPER FORUM in a discussion about a lolsuits involving ADULT DIAPERS… so maybe you can get your head out of my ass for long enough to try and get back on topic, pisswit.

>>51494

>>51485

>>51480

>>51473

>>51471

>>51468

>>51466

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>>51459

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you dude? How much of an absolute fucking spastic do you have to be to act like this? Christ after reading up on you and seeing pictures of your ugly as fuck face I'm just filled with sadness, how does such a massive autist exist in this modern era?

>>51536

Bro you're fat and ugly as shit, and you're a complete and utter sperg given your posts. How the fuck do you wake up in the morning and go about your day knowing what a fucking ugly loser you are?

>>51537

>the part where you realize you're too fuckin ugly to show a picture of yourself

Yeaaaaah… that's what I thought, you ugly, fat fuck.

>>51540

Matt do you live with your mom?

>>51542

I presently reside within the wants and wishes of humanity.

>>51546

So in other words, yes

>>51566

I am somewhat disturbed by how much you apparently fantasize about my mother. I don't think that's healthy.

>>51540

Sorry for your projection but I know better than to expose my face on an ABDL forum, unlike you who has an entire fucking ED article/kiwifarms thread devoted to you which shows EXACTLY how fucking fat and ugly you are.

Also you seem like an actually dangerous sperg who would spaz the fuck out and try to insta dox if someone who calls you the fugly joke you are were to give any evidence about who they were.

>>51610

In other words you're fat and ugly… mostly fat tho amirite.

Also, I have never done anything to anyone that they didn't try doing to me first. I tend to basically act like a mirror, so whatever you do I'll reflect back… and, yes, if you booze about my fun little article and attempt to use ANYTHING in it as a means of personal attack against me… I will most certainly take the opportunity to "share" the experience you seem to enjoy so much.

Do unto others and all like that… it's a very simple rule… apparently not simple enough for your largely deficient species though. Maybe that's why your God abandoned you. ^__^

>>51622

Fucking christ, seek help you weird ugly faggot.

>>51633

This guy is all like, "DO UNTO OTHERS?! THA'FUCK KIND OF CRAZY NONSENSE IS THAT?!"

Welcome to the "current year" everyone… where the world is filled with hypersensitive snowflakes looking to attack and lash out at everyone and everything around them. with absolutely zero sense of cause and effect, personal responsibility and an endless ass load of unwarranted self-importance.

>>51638

Pretty sure he's mostly arguing with himself as different alts. Not sure what he gets from it since I doubt everyone has so specific of knowledge of internet chronicle page or whatever. His textwalls / spacing give it away.

>>51645

What the fuck is this shit? Some sort of vendetta between chris-chan types fought out with shitposts?

I got linked to some small abdl chat site sometime back so I went on there to see what was going on and stumbled upon some catty drama between two of the women on there, it was so autistic but I just sat there as a guest not saying anything and reading it for about an hour.

>>51685

Do tel what they were arguing about?

Typical American bullshit!

Suing someone is the ONLY answer. I'm glad I'm not American. You people make me sick!

>>51686

From what I gather a few of them considered one to be incredibly annoying or something. The annoying one wrote like an autist and used babytalk 90% of the time so I wasn't really surprised.

>>51687

Nah, it's not the only answer.

We shoot people too.

>>51690

Fucking christ I hate baby talk. Once in a while I can handle. But 90% of the god damn time just gets old. How autistic do you have to be to think that anyone would be okay with that?

>>51700

I think it's kinda cute when some women do it IRL, but some of them wind up sounding more whiny than babyish.

Same thing when some people try to sound "motherly" but then they wind up coming across as being mean/condescending.

I think baby talk is generally best used sparingly and less focus should be spent on trying to emulate a babyish "accent" and more focus should be spent on trying to emulate contextual style.

For example seeing something you like/want and going, "MINE!" or saying, "NO!". You don't need to misspell them or say them weird, just say them normal, but keep it real simplistic/basic.

>>51690

I just cant get the appeal of baby talk. Its murder on my ears. It sounds SO forced in every instance i've experienced it.

>>51705

What I like best is when someone has a "natural" little voice, like Sugar Baby or Nyanners… and then it's even better when they do stuff like this…

https://vimeo.com/240418677

Nyanners YouTube channel…

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO5Jvsc_sKuZi3MhnJxrlzQ

These are probably my favorite ones…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTR1MSPc3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSmsKJq3CI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZvLFLKsxyM

Here's Sugar Baby's cover of Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady"…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fUCqIxHd1Y

She's done a lot of cartoon voice acting.

>>51709

When its their natural voice its fine. When its faked/forced it sounds terrible. I'm very aware of Nyanners.

>>51727

Yeah when it's faked/forced it usually just comes across as whiny/annoying.

Another awesome "natural" sounding one is Hilary Haag…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuIzzfcLj9c

Another Hilary Haag video…

https://youtu.be/gSXB4IR11wM

Kathryn Beaumont is a really great classic "Little" voice…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HKyOFIDmsg

>>51649

This guy is on the spectrum somewhere. Just a total lack of self awareness how cringe worthy he is while failing to act edgy.

I honestly havent seen anyone abovr the age of 15 act like this faggot.

>>51742

Actually I'm basically hyper-self aware… to the point where I don't treat a pseudo reality virtual environment as if it were real life. The Internet is for fun, for entertainment, for shit posting, for trolling, for role playing, etc, etc. It is NOT for use as a substitute for what YOU apparently can't get in the real world because, I don't know, maybe you just never learned how to socially interact in the real world like normal people.

Kids like you basically retard back onto the Internet because you can't function correctly in the real world, which is why you treat everything online as such ~serious~ business… where as those like me are just, "we do what we like".

I really enjoy that you know, the fact that I bother you so much, the fact that your emotions are all flustered with indignant rage over "words on a screen". You're basically my interactive entertainment package and, best of all, you're FREE!

So please, continue to whore your emotional instability out online for my amusement, Chuckles.

>>51744

are you not able to troll, roleplay, or shitpost in the real world? Do you get any sort of entertaining interactions in the real world?

>>51818

Well the real world isn't a largely consequence free environment like the Internet is. So while you can do some of that sort of stuff in the real world it often comes with significantly greater risk, unless you're doing it in the privacy of your own home.

You need to be especially careful around large crowds of people when it comes to the real world. I've accidentally incited riots before just because I started mouthing off in public real loud with my "Internet Super Villain" character. On one of those occasions it resulted in tens of thousands of dollars in property damage.

Sooo… yeah, don't do it in the real world… unless maybe you're Tom Green. He's the rare exception.

>>50582

He just said they were.

>huggies has goodnites

>drynites is a huggies brand

>>51832

You say the internet is "largely consequence free" and then go out of your way to create consequences for others by doxing them. Are you actually retarded? Can you not see how stupid that is? Get down off of your fucking high horse and get in the sea you amoral asshole.

>>51885

Doxing generally only has positive consequences. Trust me, I've been openly posting my own dox since the mid 90s. I owe much of the contract/client work I've gotten as a direct result of spastic nutball haters trying to "get back" at me. There's generally no such thing as "bad publicity".

99.99% of the potential problems that doxing can bring are easily mitigated with a home security system, a gun and a conceal and carry permit.

Doxing is generally only useful as a form of psychological warfare… it's like getting an injection… the thought/idea of getting an injection is much more painful and disturbing than the actual injection itself.

Even in rare situations where someone loses a job due some form of exposed "wrong think" it invariably leads to MORE offers and MORE opportunities within whatever political camp you were leaning towards.

Just to illustrate how fucking IMPOTENT the Internet Rage Machine really is… just look at United Airlines, they literally BEAT A PASSENGER off their fucking plane, acted like nonchalant, unfeeling jackasses about it online and… THEIR STOCK PRICE WENT UP BY TEN FUCKIN DOLLARS!

Ironically, the only way to really damage yourself online… is to actually GIVE IN to the Internet Rage Machine… that's why you NEVER apologize, you NEVER back down and you NEVER capitulate. The minute you give the Internet an inch into your shit… they'll take it… they'll take FUCKING EVERYTHING!

To take them seriously is to give them power. To not take them seriously is to leave them impotent and ineffectual.

>>51744

And yet you have no friends, no family that loves you, no significant other and are an utter failure in life lmao

The internet is all you have as proven by the numerous articles posted on what a fuckup you are and how you spend all of your time either posting on ED or posting on diaper chats.

See how he capitalized "LOTS" in "LOTS of friends…"

That is some text book insecurity right there.

>>51933

So if you don't have facebook what access do you have to the outside world friend wise? It seems pretty clear that you have literally no one in your life that you can see face to face given that your actual family, internet friends and """coworkers""" all hate you, and you don't/haven't ever had a romantic partner so what is there for you in life?

>>51936

"So if you don't have facebook what access do you have to the outside world friend wise?"

…yikes! That's probably the saddest fuckin thing I've read online all week.

How sheltered do you gotta be to think FaceBook is the be all and end all of online communication? I mean I suppose it could be slightly worse, I mean he could have mentioned Twitter… but… wow, just… WOW!

Either you're ~reaaaally~ OLD (culturally) or… no, no that's pretty much the only explanation there actually.

encyclopediadramatica.rs/Onideus_Mad_Hatter

why do you keep engaging with him. just ignore his posts and stop derailing all the threads.

>>52017

agreed. Just use the filter function to block the dude's tripfag name and move on

>>51832

are you saying you also use the internet as a substitute for what you can't get in the real world?

>>52254

Yes.

I thought I made that clear, but apparently you're too stupid to get it and need the extra clarification.

>>52467

Awww, how cute, they're busy making forgeries! :D

So nostalgic… reminds me of 1997!

>>51407

>That's to comply with the TRO you idiot. They went to court the other day for the preliminary and the actual case is set for like a couple weeks into March. Tykables has got William McGrath, a well known Chicago IP attorney at the helm… yer gonna lose.

>

>…especially after I get done writing a letter to to judge pointing out all the shady shit ABU is currently doing, along with some interesting research regarding the case, like how our community has always referred to their products as "ABU Space" and no one, not EVER has referred to them as "Space". Closest you can find is some very limited usage in regards to "Space Diapers", but our community has traditionally called them "ABU Space"… so even with the overly generic name they want to monopolize… they can't even get anyone to actually use it, despite however much they've spent marketing wise.

What's this? https://www.reddit.com/r/ABDL/comments/818x6q/tykables_and_strom_holdings_have_resolved_their/

The namefag was wrong? color my surprise!

Pay up faggot.

>>52534

Pay up? Um… you LOST, faggot!

Your side ran the fuck away from their "we have to defend our trademark at all costs" and instead tucked their tail and ran the fuck away.

Tykables was the DEFENDING party… not the party TAKING ACTION… that means your side pussied out and cut a deal because they knew they would likely lose.

>>52538

looks like Tykables was the losing side, have to rebrand all of their packages as Galactic instead of Space while ABU keeps their trademark, womp womp

all your keyboard lawyering couldn't help you predict the obvious outcome. its ok if you dont pay, I dont like taking money from government funded cripples

>>52578

Tykables letting an overgrown crybaby have their way isn't "winning" for ABU, that's losing. Their play pretend trademark is left UNDEFENDED and left standing only because Tykables didn't want ABU to cry like a little bitch.

Ten to one says the "agreement" includes ABU paying for the stickers and potentially covering the cost of their legal fees as well. Basically a kind of, "We'll let you keep playing pretend and won't challenge your laughable trademark, but only if you pay for our rebranding costs and legal fees".

Otherwise Tykables wouldn't have had any real reason to back down.

You LOST dude, ABU's play pretend trademark is a target waiting to happen and I can't ~wait~ for one of the MAJOR diaper manufacturing companies to come right along and level their shit completely.

The very first instance in which Luvs, Huggies, Pampers, etc suddenly decides they want to shell out a space themed baby diaper… ABU is gonna LOSE THEIR SHIT!

…so it's probably just as well that they're makin diapers, cause they're gonna need 'em.

Mmmm, they also lost in that they've pretty well destroyed consumer confidence. People in this community now associated ABU as being a bunch of jackasses and they aren't going to get over that stigma any time soon, no matter how much they try and rig upvotes on Reddit with their Zoe Quinn style marketing.

People aren't stupid… well, aside from you I guess. Most people see ABU as the cry bullies of the adult baby community, that's the legacy they've cemented for themselves. It's entirely their own fault though, they should have learned from the Fine Brothers and their epic fuckup in frivolous trademarking.

>>50496 (OP)

tykables fan detected

>>52580

That's the hilarious thing about all this! I actually didn't have a favored adult diaper company… until now!

I mean, I've never even tried Tykables… and I still like their products better than ABU as a result of this stupid fuckin shit!

Like if I had a bunch of money to go buy diapers right now (presuming of course I wouldn't spend said money on Legos)… ABU would be the LAST adult diaper manufacturer I'd try.

Just as everyone and their cousin unsubscribed from the Fine Brothers… so will every other adult baby whose heard about this stupid lolsuit shit "unsubscribe" from ABU.

>>52579

They said literally the entire time they were looking for an amicable solution. That they just wanted them to stop using their trademarked name. So they settled and didn't like for punitive damages. You said that they were in the wrong and couldn't own Space in the realm of diapers. The judge, the lawyers, and tykables realized that wasn't the case, so Abu still does. Being smug and belligerent doesn't hide the fact that your were clearly wrong.

>>52598

Well, paying for stickers, I guess ~technically~ they're not "rebranded" so much. We can call it "pretend rebranding"… like ABU's "pretend trademark".

>>52597

They did stick to their guns. Their guns were "don't infringe on our trademark." They came to an agreement where the other side no longer will infringe on their trademark, so they settle before the lawyer fees get higher. This is how actual lawsuits work, and you continue to show that you don't actually know anything about trademarks while acting like a complete jackass. ABU has the space trade mark for diapers. Not the adult baby space, not anything else, just adult diapers. It's not a hard concept to understand, yet you are really having trouble. I suppose that's a side effect of thinking you're way smarter than you actually are.

>>52610

No, they came to an agreement where they'd put a sticker on their products, paid for by ABU.

ABU is effectively PAYING THEM to honor their imaginary trademark.

They did not defend it, they did not uphold it in a court of law, no judge has recognized it as being a valid trademark, etc, etc.

The only thing that's happened is ABU threw a fucking fit and paid Tykables to use another name.

>>52613

Except for, you know, the cost of all future productions with a different name. The price of stickers to cover the name for a small batch is much smaller than cost of lawyer fees, so they didn't care about doing that. They kept their trademark intact, that was what the suit was about. If they weren't in the right, then Tykables would have kept fighting it. Not only that, if it wasn't a valid suit, Tykables could have pushed for lawyer fees because they were the target of a frivolous suit. Anyways, this is the last I'll waste my time on you, you're either reacting this way to pointlessly save face or just straight up don't have the mental faculties to understand the situation.

>>52616

It doesn't cost them anything to use a different name and it's potentially possible that ABU didn't just cover the cost of the stickers but actually paid them some particular sum of money to change it. ABU likely also covered Tykables legal expenses as a part of the deal.

It's not like ABU was just… change all your stuff and screw you… because then Tykables wouldn't have had any reason to settle. The only way Tykables would have settled is if they were getting some benefit.

See that's how it works with a negotiation… both sides want something. In this case ABU wants Tykables not to use the word space, so ABU had to give Tykables something they wanted in return.

That something was likely legal expenses and the cost of the stickers and rebranding… at a minimum, because otherwise Tykables wouldn't have had any reason to settle, I mean it's not like it would have cost them much more to simply go to court since they were already all in. As Tykables had nothing to lose, the ball was in ABU's court to make them an offer.

Said offer could have likewise included some additional benefit as well. It's not likely that we'll know the precise specifics though because usually there are NDAs involved in such settlements.

I dont have time to read the whole thread, because I have to get ready to have my anus plungerized by a calculus test. Could someone summarize the current situation as far as ABU suing tykables?

Also, I dont want tykables to get sued. I like tykables, and I want their resources going towards new products and diapers and all that, not defending themselves in a lawsuit.

>>52623

>ABU filed for a nonsense trademark

>ABU demanded that Tykables stop using the word "space"

>Tykables laughed and said, "No."

>ABU sued Tykables

>Judge was pissed over how stupid it was, said to come back about a week into March.

>ABU realized they were pretty fucked, offered a deal with Tykables to get out of their idiot lolsuit.

>Tykables accepted their deal, the end.

Bottom line… ABU paid Tykables not to use the name "space" in their products because they knew their frivolous trademark wouldn't hold up in court.

>>52623

Tykables made "Space Cadet" adult diapers

ABU said "Hey, we have a trademark on calling adult diapers "Space", could you plz not?"

Tykables owner, presumably without checking with a lawyer said "GTFO, we'll do what we want"

Actual lawyers got involved.

Tykables settled out of court after the introductory hearing, presumably because their lawyer advised them it was an open and shut case they were going to lose.

>>52625

Wrong again faggot,

https://www.reddit.com/r/ABDL/comments/818x6q/tykables_and_strom_holdings_have_resolved_their/dv1mv7a/

Casey himself said Tykables had to pay $15k. Not the other way around. It's almost as if you're a fucking retard living in your mother's basement pretending to be smart about shit you actually don't have a clue about.

The only thing you are is a lose trolling a chan board because you're banned form everywhere else. Do you know how pathetic you are? Are you even that self-aware?

>>52635

Casey says a lot of shit, I wouldn't believe any of it. It wouldn't make any sense if Tykables had to pay $15k… why would they have settled? The judge wouldn't have even awarded damages over $10k in such a case.

Casey is straight up lying.

I don't think I've ever seen someone so dedicated to being so wrong

>>52641

You might want to recheck your link and rethink yourself, because apparently Casey never actually said that Tykables paid anything. They simply stated that, that was the amount they wasted on legal fees.

>>52641

It's actually amusing when he wants to come across as intelligent. Every time he tries that someone always points out how retarded he is or just ridicules him and he always gets flustered and starts throwing a tantrum or an overly predictable routine.

Those tired of his pathetic antics have long since blocked and and he actually does provide a good source of laughter at his expense for those that didn't. I find it hilarious that he always comes back for more and somehow never figures out that he is being milked for quick giggles.

>>52658

I like how ABU's supporters are too stupid to realize that they're going to invariably jack up the price by about a dollar per diaper to cover the cost of all this idiocy they've brought upon themselves.

Like the saying goes… you just can't fix stupid!

But, hey, if they're happy to cover the cost of Casey's blundering misstep… more power to 'em! If your customers are idiots… might as well milk them for all their worth!

>>52680

Way to once again prove your cognitive dissonance. They said VERY specifically that THERE WERE NO FINES and THERE WAS NO PUNITIVE DAMAGES and the other statement he made, "well, someone had to pay the legal fees" was in response to the statement "Tykables had to pay fifteen k".

That's not an affirmation of the previous statement you idiot, in fact if you read THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION (which you conveniently left out), another person replies, "The consumers" to which Casey then offers a direct affirmation…

"Yes, This is how business works. If a company decides to incur a charge, it is likely the consumer will be paying for it and not a gift from an outside donor for that exact cause."

…which directly implies that Casey isn't getting some magical "gift" (legal compensation) from an "outside donor" (Tykables) but rather has to fit the bill for his own legal bullshit and he unapologetically plans to pass the cost on to the consumer.

>>52658

Pretty much yeah. I can see why ED and kiwifarms milked this guy ao hard now. Soon we should be able to bring out that ED bingo board and have ourselves a winner

>>52706

Just so everyone is aware, this "guy" whose all the fuck up on my jock here, his name is Ryan Palone, a tranny nutball and he's all ass enraged cause I wrote this article about him awhile back…

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Crinklemon

>>52709

Come on hatter, you gotta do much better then that to make yourself look good in comparison to some random dude.

Perhaps it would be in your interest to spend a few bucks to get yourself unbanned first.

>>52710

Why would I need to spend any money when I can just do exactly what I did the first six or eight times?

Those kids running ED aren't exactly real stable, they break very easily and most of them have got lots of personal shit to lose.

It's become something of a hobby of mine, seeing how hard I can squeeze before they'll shatter all apart in my grasp.

You seem to be ~quite~ impatient over the whole thing though… perhaps you should try sitting on your hands, child. You need to learn to appreciate the slow roast of human agitation, the calming patience breezing through the wake of their flustered indignation. Take the time to really savor the emotional flavor of it all. Don't just pig into it like a ravenous bloat without any sense of restraint.

>>52711

>You need to learn to appreciate the slow roast

Kinda like what you have been giving the trolls the last decade or two at your personal expense?

Do go on

>>52712

And which group of trolls would that be?

The Portal Of Evil?

*poof*

Something Awful Sycophant Squad?

*poof*

888Chan?

*poof*

The "owners" and admins of Encyclopedia Dramatica?

*poof* (several times over)

Seriously, do you have any gawd damn idea just how many dead ED regs there are to my name? I mean last December I drove one so the fuck far over the edge they shot up a fuckin school before giving themselves a bit of 9mm mouthwash!

Even the ones who don't wind up killing themselves usually run the fuck away once they start to realize you know a lot more about them than you're letting on.

…just like I know who you are.

You can thank the DoD for that one… they got this whole stupid site all jacked the fuck up and full of holes, monitoring all your shit… so I uh… I've been "borrowing" one of them. ^__^

>>52717

Have you really learned absolutely nothing after all these years?

Nice dedication, but you are running the race backwards yet again.

>>52719

Running the race backwards?

Typical human confusion… you don't realize at all that time is entirely cyclical when it comes to your particular brand of bullshit.

Last round I got Phobos banned, I got Mike to run away, I got Chris in a cock lock on the wiki, I got William to kill himself and I cucked Brian into a corner to the point where he was effectively letting me run the entire wiki from a fuckin editor account for roughly a full year (before the little hostile takeover)… and it took less than two years of sidelined effort to bring it all about… the only difference between then and now… is that I can speed it up now if I want, now that I know the motions, now that I know all the steps.

Which I've already been doing, like when Sibin popped in to tell Chris to fuck off the wiki and go back to the forums… after I sent him a little e-mail. Such an obedient little subservient Serbian… I'll have his balls in a cuck cage before you know it.

>>52722

Oh, my bad. I just realized using that whole run analogy is actually extremely offensive to you.

>>52724

What's wrong with running? Cross Country was the easiest "sport" I ever did in high school.

>>52726

Way back in the late 80s? Might be bad idea to try doing that again with all those clogged arteries.

>>52728

My arteries aren't clogged at all.

The other day my blood pressure clocked at 118/80.

>>52730

I don't think you are going to fool anyone that you are in good health; you're coming off as extremely defensive and pestered. Maybe you should start off on stationary bike or stair master with a spot.

>>52733

Are you stupid or something? I post my medical records all the time you fuckin numpty. Hell I've uploaded entire MRI scans!

>>52735

I don't think anyone is really interested in your forged documents humpty.

>>52737

When faced with reality you cannot accept… just fire up that cognitive dissonance! Like… how the fuck could I forge MRI scans, Brain Trust? How Jesus raping stupid are you exactly?

>>52741

So far all I see is talk from you. Perhaps people will take you seriously if you show them proof about how flawless you really are.

Trying to help you out here

>>52748

That doesn't help the fact that your titanic sized butt is currently headed towards a figurative iceberg.

>>52749

Oooh, I'm being threatened by a rock! Oh noes!

>>52751

>rock

>>52752

Well, what better way to describe you?

Convert time into a physical dimension and… you're a rock. That's… that's how you look to a higher dimensional being. Like a fuckin rock.

Reality, as you understand it, as you presently perceive it… isn't reality at all.

What you perceive as reality, your perception, is created when a multidimensional INANIMATE OBJECT has one of its physical dimensions segmented apart to form a temporal dimension. Convert that temporal dimension back into a physical dimension… and you're a fuckin rock.

To put that in a way you can understand, think of your life like a book… and you're reading through that book one page at a time. Now, the book is already written, you can't change the outcome of the book, you can't rewrite the book, you ARE the book and your "life" is only created through a temporal construct which limits your existence to one page of the book at a time.

If you REMOVE that temporal construct, if you REMOVE TIME… you become a 4th dimensional INANIMATE OBJECT… to put that another way… you humans… you're just a bunch of stupid meandering little rocks.

Mmmm, should be noted I guess that multi dimensional beings can "rewrite" your existence so to speak, but you would never be consciously aware. I mean, technically speaking, everything you perceive of presently as the "past" may not have even existed… like, at all.

>>52754

Looks like your problem with reality reared its ugly head again hatter.

>>52755

Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are, pedestrian.

>>52756

You might have a big problem then.

>>52757

Your problem is that you perceive reality as problem.

>>52758

More like you clearly don't perceive reality at all.

>>52759

Well I perceive reality well enough not to take shit so seriously in a pseudo reality virtual environment in which we inherently lose upwards of 80% of normal human communication as a result of a plain text environment.

>>52762

Abject horror springs to mind.

>>52777

Given that most of this thread is shit posting I seriously hoped you skimmed.

>>52762

So in addition to Amy Schumer just being unfunny, I can also now hate her for this.

Good to know.

>>52754

You sound like someone who's read 1/2 a philosophy textbook.

Also, just to clear something up, the universe has exactly 3 space dimensions and 1 time dimension. No more, no less. And trying to compare a spatial and temporal dimension or convert between the same is an apples/oranges comparison, ie: any conclusions drawn from such are meaningless.

>>52818

Philosophy? I think you mean cosmology, kiddo. ;)

And… no. Technically speaking the known universe is multidimensional across the volumetric spectrum. So like we generally perceive the earth, a round object, as a flat object, because of the disproportional volumes of matter, that is our volume compared to the volume of the whole planet.

So basically you have multiple sets of physical dimensions that concurrently exist within differential spatial dimensions, or to put that more simply matter dispersal creates physical dimensions and size dispersal creates spatial dimensions.

Spatial dimensions and physical dimensions aren't actually the same, despite what most people think (largely because they can't readily perceive spatial disparity in a direct sense, only by comparative analysis).

For example, on the microscopic and nanoscopic levels there's effectively an entire universe beyond our perceptive capability and even largely beyond our direct physical influence (at least on a precision level). But that "universe" and it's properties still exist, even though they effectively exist outside of immediate influence/manipulation.

Much of science is in fact dedicated entirely to the pursuit of attempting to precisely control and monitor that "universe" that exists beyond us.

You're also wrong about time. Time is simply the given rate of molecular change within any given space and it is largely variable and largely dependent upon energy reactions and density. Density creates gravity which in turn affects energy reactions which in turn affects the perceived flow of time within a given space.

Gravity is normally a weak force, so energy forms like electrons/photons move freely and the faster they move the faster the "time". In effect every time you run real fast down the street… you're technically accelerating in time by a very tiny bit.

But, if the density becomes too great then gravity can go from a weak force to a strong force, capable of overwhelming the inherent flow of energy within a given space, which in turn causes the given matter to collapse, in turn forming a black hole. The gravity is so strong that energy can't move freely, in turn causing time to slow down the closer you get to a back hole.

Your universe, your reality, only exists because it's largely a void. Without the inherent spaces between matter, your concept of temporal progression wouldn't exist. Think of it like a sponge, with water being space. If there's no water then the sponge is tightly compacted, unmoving, effectively a solid, unchanging object. Anything inside essentially trapped. But you add water and the sponge will swell up, expand and become malleable. That ability to move creates change and the ability to change states creates forms of temporal progression measure from the rates of change.

>>52891

I'm believing this man is truly clinically insane rather than just a troll as he claims.

>>52892

Well it's no measure of sanity to be well adjusted to a completely insane society.

Color me unsurprised that you kids have no appreciation for the literary arts. My work is probably wasted on the lot of you.

>>52636

He settled because he found a decent lawyer who told him ABU was going to walk all over him and he could get out now by just paying the legal fees.

>>52917

Which makes no sense because that would have been the end result regardless. In a case like that the judge wouldn't have granted any punitive damages, they would have simply said that ABU can keep their nonsense trademark and they may not have even granted ABU legal compensation from Tykables or even if they did it would just be some nominal amount, likely less than $2,500.

No, I'm afraid the only settlement that makes sense is Tykables agreeing not to use the name if ABU pays for the stickers and rebranding… they most likely paid their own legal fees or, even more likely, ABU had to pay Tykables legal fees as incentive to stop using the name.

In the end ABU essentially realized they were fighting an uphill battle and figured they could save money by simply paying Tykables to not use the name.

Which isn't uncommon. Paying a competitor to not do something is often easier and simpler than dragging it through the courts. Cheaper for everybody and everybody wins.

>>52918

You have no idea about trademark infringement penalties. They can be quite substantial. Say what you want, ABU won, keeps its mark and Tykables is shelling out the dough.

We said we'd see what happened. We've seen it. Now you're just in denial

>>52926

Name TEN "quite substantial" trademark litigation cases within the past year.

*crickets chirping*

…yeah, that's what I thought.

Just because something is ~possible~ doesn't mean it's ~probable~ you idiot.

I mean it ~possible~ you could kill someone and get off scott free by claiming a Twinkie caused temporary insanity… but just because that's happened ONCE doesn't mean it's magically going to create a trend.

You have absolutely no idea what you're babbling on about kiddo. You don't "win" by settling out of court. Seriously, how fuckin stupid are you?

>>52934

Different anon

You don't necessrily win in the short term of things, but in the long run, if the case were to be drawn out more, you could lose more than you are fighting for, such as costs, public relations, ect. Getting out of stalemates via paying for the settlement is probably the better solution than fighting to the grim in grand scheme of things, especially if you're fighting a losing battle.

>>52951

Well if you mean ABU, certainly it was in their best interest to settle, especially after Tykables got a better IP lawyer than ABU's representation.

Tykables lawyer would have mopped the freakin floor with ABU so it's no surprised they wanted to settle… AFTER the fact. ABU was pretty confident all around that they were magically going to win, with absolutely no interest in a real settlement… and then as soon as Tykables gets an nth level IP attorney… oh shi- suddenly ABU doesn't want to try their luck in court.

>>52953

>>52934

>>52918

This is all bullshit. You weren't there, you're not a lawyer and you probably haven't even been to law school or read law so nothing you say happened is valid. Whar exactly are you or anyone else for that matter hoping to achieve? Also if you are attempting to defend that 50$ you kept, as written it says "if Tykables changes the name", not win or lose or whoever had to pay; so all of your arguments are pointless.

>>52910

Trademarks can be regional and they could have been established prior to Papa John's (1984 in Kentucky) or prior to Papa John's entering their region. Those are tricky and obviously PJ has enough brand recognition that they don't give two shits.

>>53009

Well you know I wasn't there for any of the Purple Mattress stuff and yet… oh, hey, still predicted the outcome…

https://i.imgur.com/DYQG4Mb.png

If they had gone to court, if they hadn't settled… ABU would have LOST… that's a fact. That's ~why~ ABU settled, because they KNEW they were on a precarious legal ledge about to fall off.

>>53011

http://www.lawyersandliquor.com/2018/02/fetish-friday-trademark-infringement-and-the-abdl-community-part-2/

This guy is an attorney- I actually am too. His analysis mirrors mine, more or less.

The few AB attorneys out there think ABU had the better case. The amount of laypeople that think they understand law and get themselves pwned by us in court not insignificant. I assure you, you are misapplying the facts.

>>53012

That guy is NOT an attorney, he's a fuckin drunk who couldn't hack it in the legal bracket so he retarded on back to writing shitty drunken articles.

You, also, are NOT an attorney. The very fact that you're running around claiming to be one is more than evidence enough that you aren't one (otherwise you would have done the "thing" I did earlier).

And every last one of you dipshits has failed time and time again to refute even a SINGLE point I've made and… wooo… boy I have really gone in deep on it.

Hells bells, you couldn't even counter the point I made about Huggies and their jean diapers, that's how pathetic you are.

I mean, just let that sink in for a moment… you claim to be a lawyer and you can't even come up with a single plausible defense for ANY of the shit I've brought up in this thread. You've certainly tried to ~derail~ the thread (many times) and you've certainly attempted to poison the well and you've certainly no shortage of personal attacks… but when it comes ot actually refuting any of my main arguments… YOU FAIL!

You're supposedly a lawyer and you FAIL when trying to defend your bullshit against some random fuckin dude on the Internet! That's how pathetic you are.

So just as a running tally, demon_god here knows more about trademark/copyright law than: ABU's two IP lawyers who are top lawyers in copyright/trademark law, Tykables lawyer who would've not allowed the settlement to take place if they could win, a federal judge and multiple lawyers (3L that provided the write-up on Reddit and Lawyers & Liqour) that have said the same thing. Because he was once allegedly an admin for ED.

While letting this idiot spill his delusions of grandeur on this board has been amusing, could you imagine being this fucking pathetic? He's on a diaper board, the only place left that hasn't banned him for being fucking stupid and useless.

>>53033

What the hell is a "top lawyer"… LOL

And Tykables did win… we know that for a fact because the owner of ABU came right out and said that they got NOTHING and in fact implied that they had to PAY TYKABLES as a part of the settlement.

So even if Tykables let it drag out, it would have…

A. Looked bad if they weren't willing to settle given terms largely in their favor.

and

B. The judge would have likely only awarded Tykables attorney fees and not much else (and probably not the full amount of what his lawyer would charge), meaning even if Tykables won through the courts it would be a rather hallow victory.

The part about the federal judge is likewise nonsense, the judge never issued any opinion at all and they certainly wouldn't do so before a decision was handed down, otherwise it would show that they weren't being impartial.

Further the person who wrote the write-up on Reddit wasn't a lawyer, in fact they SPECIFICALLY stated…

"I am not a lawyer, and I am definitely not YOUR lawyer."

…and once again the "Lawyers & Liquor" outfit aka Boozy… is not actually a lawyer… or if they are they're arguably one of the worst seeing as how their site's ToS is a blatantly jarring one sided contract of adhesion which holds too many non-mutual terms and, as such, falls foul of the US doctrine of Unconscionability.

And, once again, all you have is insults and attacks… no counter arguments, no rebuttals, nothing but lashing out blindly because you know I'm right… it's a bitch, I know. I mean, it stings bad enough when someone is right and you're wrong… but then when they're a self aggrandizing bastard on top of it all… whooo… I don't imagine that's a very happy slap across your pride.

If you want some good advice though… try swallowing. ^__^

>>53045

A fact is something you're incapable of refuting aka indisputable.

You whining about them… does not, in any way, contest their validity.

To put that another way… your feelings don't equal facts, Snowflake.

>>53047

Actually, you're wrong. A fact is a statement that is falsifiable. If it is incapable of falsification, then it it an opinion. Facts need not be accurate, just testable.

Hence, your post did have facts in it, they just aren't true.

>>53061

Saying a fact isn't true doesn't magically make it so, you moron. You have to be able to prove that it isn't true with evidence.

Seriously, what the hell are they teaching you morons in school these days?

These kids are so fuckin detached from reality that they apparently think they can alter it simply by shaking their heads and yelling, "NO!" real loudly.

Sorry kid, but that's not the way reality works. If you can't otherwise contest of disprove what someone has said with convincing evidence… you're wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ABDL/comments/7xu6mf/i_just_got_back_from_court_strom_v_tykables_and/

Sorry guys looks like you were all right. Sorry for running my mouth without knowing anything.

Can you all ever forgive me?