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>>857943

who cares if it has the original admin or not?

This place is dead, full of bots, glowies and 2019 dead threads.

are jesuits more powerful than j3ws?

Ephesians 5:5-8- “For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.  Be not ye therefore partakers with them.  For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light.”

Galatians 5:19-21- “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-11- “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”

Matthew 16:27- “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.”

Matthew 13:41-42- “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

2 Corinthians 5:9-10- “… Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.  For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”

1 Corinthians 13:1-2- “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”

Philippians 2:12- “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”

1 Corinthians 11:28-29- “But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.”

Revelation 2:23-26- “… all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works… But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.  And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.”

Revelation 20:12-13- “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”

Revelation 22:12- “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”

Revelation 21:8- “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Revelation 22:19- “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

1 Timothy 4:16- “Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.”

2 Timothy 4:14- “Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works.”

It happened to the jews simply by breeding with the gentiles. People like to say that the codex gigas depicts Satan in it but that's actually a picture of what Moses looked like. Jews used to look that way they had scales horns and could see in the dark and gentiles were separate because we simply are separate. But now days because of blood pollution the jews look like us all the reptilian has been bread out

I question all that is the product of human reason.

I take on absolute faith the real teachings of the Bible and the true Popes.

God made this universe, and this is how I understand it to have been done. The Bible was not made to be a scientific thesis, but a guide for us. As guides go, it contained knowledge that was not known to man 7000 years ago.

>>854947

>>854945

No, the church fathers overwhelmingly rejected metaphorical interpretations of genesis. Darwinian evolution is not factual and it assumes that God doesn’t exist for it to be absolutely true. Here is a common example:

>Life form a is found

>Life form b is found

>Life form a resembles life form b

>Therefore they have a common ancestor

This completely ignores the possibility that they could have been created this way, if it is possible that God exists, there is no reason to be absolutely sure they must have a common ancestor. It is very plausible that God created them. This all boils down to interpretation of data, data used to support Darwinian evolution is not incompatible with creationism. If any of this observed data can exist in a creationist worldview than it doesn’t disprove creationism or prove evolution.

>Gecko

>”40 million years”

>no change

>https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/science-and-future/gecko-trapped-in-amber-54-million-years-ago-523896.html

>bathynomus

>”450 million years”

>no change

>https://www.sci.news/paleontology/trilobite-eggs-04570.html

>chick

>”99 million years”

>no change

>https://eartharchives.org/articles/baby-bird-found-in-99-million-year-old-amber/

>Bear

>”24 thousand years”

>no evolution

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_bear

>shrew

>”160 million years”

>no change

>https://www.science20.com/news_articles/juramaia_sinensis_160millionyearold_fossil_pushes_back_mammal_evolution-81971

>hedgehog

>”125 million years”

>https://www.sci.news/paleontology/science-spinolestes-xenarthrosus-cretaceous-mammal-03339.html

>>857973

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/science/12louse.html

Forgot the source for the lice

>>856113

That's fair. You could look at it that way too. Either way, the true God gets all the glory, and it annoyed polytheists. And that's it main target. It's not about our modern notions of science, but a dismissal of polytheism known in the world.

I would say further that the whole chapter is subversive. Temple dedications (even outside Israel) lasted for seven days, where on the last day, the "god" rests in the temple. Solomon himself does this too when he builds the first Temple, as indicated in seven day dedication in Chronicles. In Genesis, it's a song of dedication for the true temple in heaven.

Other elements would have annoyed polytheists too. God creates plants and herbs before he ever creates the Sun. Pagans (and even people today) were enamored with the power of the Sun and of Fertility, and had gods dedicated to those domains. But here in Genesis, God doesn't need any of it. Plants grow because of his Word. There's no sun at all. The Sun is an after thought merely to automate what his word already began.

The creation of Man at the end is the most subversive to the Sumerian/Babylonian worldview. In their scheme, the gods created the garden for themselves, and for man to be a slave who worked for the gods. But in Genesis, the garden is created for Man and out of love. Not out of slavery.

They got us as kids man! They got us as kids, not the church, but the wolves! They pulled the fraud out in the open, since they've put the screen in front of our eyes! https://odysee.com/SpeakingTheTruthinalltheRealm:8

It's already banned by Public Broadcasting Service!

"In the beginning"

Time.

"God created the heavens"

space

"and the earth."

matter.

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

Light is light, not time, in order for light to travel, it needs time, as photons travel at a fixed speed through space.

I would like to point you to the following;

Video game development.

In a history long ago i made maps for UT2k4, an online shooter.

Every time i would load a new file, clean and empty, i would start with a blank space. Within this space i could create all kinds of objects.

However if i would load the map for testing, everything would be pitch black, if i forgot something very specific.

Why?

Because i did not add any "sources" of light to be generated within the map once it is loaded.

This is probably not purely aligning with the genesis 1:1-3 passages, however i do not think it is far from it either.

The light that God created in this context i am presenting was merely not fixed to celestial objects.

It does not really make sense to create plants on day 3 without light to nourish them.

In other words, i find it more reasonable that light was confined to terrestrial objects on day 4 (the celestial clock made for signs and seasons), then that light "actually means time", if there are very distinct words to be used if you want to describe either.

The church fathers also unanimously teach it:

Six thousand years of our world are not yet completed.

St. Jerome, Doctor of the Church, Commentariorum in Epistulam Pauli Apostoli ad Titum Liber Unus, I,Ib-4.

> Six thousand years of our world are not yet completed.

Council of Trullo, canon 3,

>Especially as the fault of ignorance has reached no small number of men, we decree, that those who are involved in a second marriage, and have been slaves to sin up to the fifteenth of the past month of January, in the past fourth Indiction, the 6109th year, and have not resolved to repent of it, be subjected to canonical deposition…

The Acts of the Second Council of Nicaea (AD 787), Sess. 6:

>“In the year 5501 Christ our God came to mankind and lived with us for thirty-three years and a little less than five months.”

St. Basil the Great (c. 330–379):

>"And if anyone were to say that the days mentioned in the account are not to be understood as days, he would be admitting that the sacred Scriptures are not true. For they would be saying that there were no six days, but only a confused time… the evening and the morning were the first day."

Source: Hexaemeron, Homily 1, trans. Blomfield Jackson (The Macmillan Company, 1895), p. 23.

St. John Chrysostom (c. 349–407):

>"In the first place, He [God] created light, and then darkness; He divided the light from the darkness, calling the light 'day,' and the darkness He called 'night.' And the evening and the morning were the first day… This, then, is the meaning of the expression, ‘and the evening and the morning were the first day.’ He made a day as we understand it today, with an evening and a morning."

Source: Homily on Genesis, Homily 1, trans. Roy J. Deferrari (Catholic University of America Press, 1951), p. 21.*

St. Ephraim the Syrian (c. 306–373):Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Theistic evolutionalists also believe that God created death and that it is natural.

you're a gigantic faggot

>>853458

The watchers modified humanity with transhumanism in the early days, mixing up mankind genetics with other species (the ghost people of Africa that make up 20% of Africans dna, the neanderthalis of Europe and asia that makes up 1-6%, the dens that are 1-3% in Asians)

The last time that happened god promised he wouldn’t cleanse the earth in water anymore. He will keep his promise. He will not use water but instead fire to cleanse our planet

>>853470

Genesis was metaphorical you silly goose

God makes explosion (big bang), then god makes the water (4D plasma soup), then he separates the land from the water (planets forming out of the cooling soup), then he makes fish and animals then finally humans.

An all powerful being was talking to his favorite little guy on the mountain (like someone talking to their favorite sim in a game)

Moses can’t see all of creation, the stars the germs the quarks.

How could Moses have known that 68% of the universe is black holes? Devoid of light beyond his vision, garbage collectors ripping matter apart into a singularity and then growing larger pushing the universe around it?

God programmed it, as well as me and you silly billy, so he had to dumb down the concepts which is where the Books of Moses come from. It’s a large parable just like he gave us in the New Testament, God is really good at parables, he’s the best!

>>855783

There is a second cloth that was with it that was smaller only on his face that matches…. You know that right?

>>856226

Is there even evidence for a local flood? What would you say about typology and exorcisms?

>>856231

Are you still here? Can you reply?

I want some of those muff burgers

Without seeing the video I can attest the majority of Christianity practiced in the US is not the biblical Christianity. MAGA "christians" have the same demonic spirits their ancestors had. They worship a blonde, blue eyed anglo saxon christ. They worship Satan and call him christ. They have the same demonic spirits their ancestors had that committed and practiced genocide, land theft, chattel slavery, and ethnic cleansing.

>>857953

yeah but real Christianity is kind and virtuous right

Do not believe this garbage. It's a lie. You can still have salvation.

>>857954

Amen may the LORD of truth and righteousness be continually blessed forever. Selah

the term "Jew" in the bible, is entirely different from what "Jew" means today, in present tense, the modern day "Jews" are referring to a race of people who descended from a group called "Edomites" who where a Semitic race of people, (Also, there where many Turkic nomadic people who converted to Judaism in the ninth century AD)

These people are not native to the land of Israel and the are first recorded to have moved there around 200 BC,

The Edomites clearly not a people of god, during the second temple era, they where pagans who prayed to demons.

Now how the term "jew" was refereed in the bible was a tribe of the 12 tribes of Israel, who despite what everyone tells you WHERE, of proto indo European descent, nothing is known about Abraham parents, other then Abraham was born in Sumeria, the Sumerians where a known proto indo European people

(Aryan people)

the modern day Jews are imposters, the real chosen people are Us, Aryans

I believe the whore of Babylon will be Israel, they are the true synagogue of satan

I’d recommend you read Galatians and Romans.

Jesus Christ has died for the full atonement of every believer’s sins. Whoever believes in Him is no longer a child of wrath, but a child of God. They will receive eternal life.

The children of Abraham, not by blood, but by faith in Jesus, the Messiah, all have been chosen by God for justification and glorification.

In the past, Israel (those who are chosen by God) was made up primarily of Jews, but now God has given salvation to every people. Christians are obligated to glorify God (not by necessity for salvation or by compulsion, but by love) to spread the Good News of redemption to all people and imitate the life of Christ.

God bless you. Amen.

Your an atheist who is reciting the same terrible talking point Christians have answered for you MANY TIMES, if you looked on YouTube you would see how many

Evil exists because we decided to rebel against god,

if god ended humanity right there he would 100% be in the right to do so, but out of mercy and love he saved us through his son Jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Lcnj6wrR8

watch this video, if you want your question answered in more depth

"sUfFerinG bAD" this is the level you guys talk at. Grow up. Bad happens, yes. Use it as an opportunity for growth.