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 No.3725 [Open thread]

Hello. I was diagnosed with HFA when I was young and I have been afflicted with a significant amount of soft-kill (vaccines, aerosol injections, fluoride etc...) I was also subject to constant stress while I was forced through the public school system and found myself in sort of unconscious drift while attending university with no real idea what I wanted to do because I had little sense of identity. A few months ago I realized how corrupt the universities now are and I left because I wished to avoid aggregating more debt, I realized that the doctors were being trained to kill people, and because I wanted to reduce my exposure to cell radiation. Since then my health has improved through supplementation and therapy and I have begun to recover my sense of identity. I wish to enlist in the military as either an intelligence analyst or psychological operator of some sort and I believe that I would be good at these rolls because I basically reinvented 4th generation warfare while at the university despite it not being at all pertinent to the classes I was taking. I am eager to be of some use and think that the basic training may help pull me out of my extreme introversion; however, I have several concerns that I hope someone on this board will be able to advise me on. My primary concern is qualifying for top secret clearance. I have no criminal record however I have partaken in the use of cannabis and psychedelics which ultimately had a positive effect on my development, but there is evidence of this substance use on my old facebook page which I presume will be analyzed. My next concern being whether I can trust the military right now or whether I should wait and enlist once this big corruption purge kicks off. I really don’t want to end up fighting the Russians when it is clearly the communist Chinese, technocrats, and bankers who are spreading cancer everywhere. My final concern is that I am unsure how to prepare myself for the mathematics requirements as I am well out of practice in the subject and would like to know how it will be applied on the asvab and in practice. Any other pertinent advice will also be appreciated.

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 No.3728

Addendum: I no longer require material on the specific maths involved as I have since located some. Input on my first two concerns remains desired.

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 No.3734

>>3725

There is no doubt t in my mind that psychopolitics is something being analyzed and utilized by govt. agencies. The flaw with the govt. systems is the agencies that are deployed in this field are constantly using it to try and subvert and corrupt the general populace in accordance with their underhanded philosophies and agendas. I myself have felt desire to move in to the govt. intelligence sector, but I can not in good faith believe that they hold anyone's interests close besides their own. Places like these are the only existing spaces where free thought can be exchanged without strict agendas being forced on users and without totalitarian restriction of idea being implemented. To understand how much the government is against the individual, yoy need not look further than the general Miranda Rights: anything you say can and will be used against you.

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 No.3741

>>3725

How's about being of use for your self and your immediate community instead of aiding the very machine that has put all these labels and stress-related concerns upon you. It seems counter-intuitive. A second look at what you mean with career vs. being of use may be useful. Normies/non-autists that are high in social skills seem to thrive on relying on HFA and other introvert people for their own benefit. Be careful anon.

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 No.609 [Open thread]

ITT: Important documentaries.

"Counter-Intelligence"

Watch online: http://metanoia-films.org/counter-intelligence/

>"Counter-Intelligence" shines sunlight into the darkest crevices of empire run amok. The film vividly exposes a monstrous and unconstitutional "deep state" in which multiple competing chains of command -- all but one illegal -- hijack government capabilities and taxpayer funds to commit crimes against humanity in our name.
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 No.783

The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrpA46YS7P0

Based on Naomi Klein's book of the same name which examines a method of psychological and economic warfare revolving around manufacture of public consent through disaster.

Klein cites sources in her book. Whether correct or not this is certainly an "important" documentary especially when one considers such documentaries can be tools for the psychopolitician...

Personally, I find Shock Doctrine compelling but overly simplistic and lacking nuance. There are a few unsupported logical leaps. The ideas are worth exploring, but things are more complicated than presented.

Note the not-so subtle September 11 bookends; Facts are served with an invitation to speculation that pique curiosity. Many who follow guided speculation will arrive at a desired conclusion without further fact finding necessary. Facts arranged such to suggest a conclusion are enough to sate most curiosity; Thus, further research is typically shelved given its apparent high cost to benefit ratio (humans are predisposed to optimism in planning their goals, so they assume they will only further verify their assumptions, see also: "Planning Fallacy"). Leaving the conclusions somewhat open ended also allows the consumer to plug in their own particular beliefs rather than presenting a concrete conclusion which can be picked apart. Shock Doctrine performs well in this regard, so from a propagandist perspective I give it an 8/10.
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 No.785

>>783

thanks for the well considered post
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 No.792

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The Science of Spying 1965

This video is the topic of this thread: >>277
However, the video link is apparently broken (and OP left the subject line is blank).

I also managed to find an easily downloadable version of the video on archive.org:
https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.614513

This piece is clearly chock-full of pro USA intelligence community propaganda. Don't take anything at face value therein. There are no doubt many facts presented since the best lies have a kernel of truth.

Be mindful of the environment propaganda is forged within. At the time of this video's release people held grave concern for covert ops; Many feared the result of the Cold War would be nuclear winter, and blamed the spying agencies for instigating the stand off.

The primary psychopolitical purpose of the propaganda seems to be appeasement of the public by deflecting their distrust in intelligence agencies and focusing on their now declassified good deeds. However, there are other PSIOPs at work herein, so tread carefully.

One example of additional subconscious messaging is at the ~7min mark: A subtle pro-Asian integration propaganda. The segment opens with obviously dubbed in hints of romantic/playful giggling, and features an out of place closeup of a pretty Asian woman who (with the help of her off-screen male partner), clearly dictates the message: "Everything is Alright, Everything is OK, everything is Fine" via their blatantly staged and overtly sexually flavored exchange. Don't forget the proxy war in Vietnam was ongoing at the time of the film; To my propagandist radar it screams, "Who are we fighting to protect, men? Sexy women like this!"
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 No.814

KGB Connections
https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.54508

The film explores KGB operations in North America and Cuba, and doubles as anti-Russian propaganda. In doing so it covers some KGB backed protest, activism, and insurrection.

I found interesting one part where an ex-soviet explained the mechanism of psychopolitical attack: Pit white against black, men against women, poor against rich, etc. and the crisis will come. This is what Marxism does through application of an oppressor / oppressed dynamic. It's telling that the end goal of crisis (or communist revolution) is left unsaid in most western ideologies of Social Justice.

Being that the film is also propaganda it could be that such was said in order to paint Social Justice as a tool used against countries; The sentiment may also be true whether or not it is propaganda.

I find interesting that ideologies which seek to dismantle power structures (governments, The Patriarchy, etc.) are so prominent in the west as to be taught in every college (not merely critically examined, but fostered), as the film demonstrates such activists like the Weather People and Radical Feminist ideologies were once considered a threat to the west.

That this idea of radical Social Justice being a weapon against western capitalism is all but absent in today's media is interesting. I find it hard to believe that the media would remain under communist control for long. It could represent a shift in ideological alignment -- possibly that western powers have decided to benefit from crises caused by class warfare. This would support the concept of Disaster Capitalism here: >>783

It's repeatedly mentioned that KGB spies, dubbed "illegals", get into the USA via Canada, illuminating a possible strong motivation for the tightening of the Canada/USA border; This is an anti-immigration double whammy when once considered the subtle suggestion that "illegals" (illegal aliens) could be soviet spies.

When watching such films keep an eye out for the propaganda; It's easier to pick out in older films.
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 No.3735

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 No.3686 [Open thread]

What does /32/ know about underground bases?

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 No.3727

>>3686

Bechtel - builds tunnels: https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/BechtelFileSO78.pdf

Phil Shneider was doing independent research on futuristic technology popping out of an underground base, and he was approached by the military and told that the technology belonged to aliens, and to help the military by keeping this secret. They gaslit him - seems pretty obvious that there's secret tech being researched down there.

Also: redundant systems for disasters. An underground DC to administrate in case of disaster above ground.

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 No.1382 [Open thread]

As predicted the obvious mass of election spam is invading /pol/
It will continue escalating and intensifying until after the inauguration about spring in 2017

Democracy is a scam. Ballots of the commoners are meaningless and not used to select the next politicians.

>Yeah we know the politicians are bought out and guys like Ron Paul are smeared!
No. No one is elected by voters voting. Why would those in power leave their hegemony vulnerable to popular caprices?
Votes are suggestions at best. In the modern digitized age they are used for datamining purposes so that you feel good about the generic politicians that are set up as the puppets for international interests.

The people swaying your governments, currencies, academia and general afflictions already control money printing in all the major and secondary world powers. They have no need of "earning" money or getting more money. Stock market crashes are designed to rob everyone else, so is inflation.

Votes will never free the slaves, never have.
Free men shed blood to throw off the shackles, the strong thrive.

Don't get bogged down in discussions about who is voting for whom or the personal celebrity gossips about politicians.
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 No.2627

>>2622

>With that, this arises the natural gaps in the power structure, where the will of the people can emerge.

What gaps? You mean like little pub hall meetings and stuff?

>While many would agree here that autonomy is a moral virtue and right (the right to be left alone), many would also say they feel comfort in 'big brother' etc. so this concept of 'free them' is what believe just another illusion in the apparatus. We are already free. They are free. There is no 'free them' to tale action on.

What? Everything is subjective? 'Some people want autonomy and some don't' -- what point are you making? The majority of people never really consider what's true and what's not, and consequently they are led off cliffs in great herds by people who pretend to espouse the truth; which is their truth. Is that freedom?

>Don't get bogged down in discussions about who is voting for whom or the personal celebrity gossips about politicians.

>This could be and is someones idea of freedom, what right do you have to impede on that? What if that person or persons is blissfully happy, no matter how ignorant you deem them to be?

Freedom has become a mere buzz word then. I am interested in human happiness, and believe it attainable through one course. You might consider it possible to be blissfully happy through heroin, orgasm and ignorance, but that is at odds with the underlying reality that the debased person tries to escape from. Blissful happiness does not come to those lost in pet delusions and smoke and mirrors, distracted with gadgets and masturbatory or gory fantasies -- with the yoke of thought policing to ensure the state of conformity that makes that stuff possible. That is a state of fear and fear at life, dreaming the alienated world to be evil. It is also a denial of peoples higher natures.

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 No.2630

>>2627

>What gaps? You mean like little pub hall meetings and stuff?

'Stuff'? In the most primitive of terms then yes, revolutions can start anywhere these gaps arise,pubs, internet image boards, etc. The will of the people is again a subjective term that takes into account a great amount of assumptions, more often than not it's been my experience that the 'people' can have their will manipulated, and that manipulation can actually in some rare instances be great, when the people forging the will of the people is grounded in altruism, morality and trust. Taking into consideration and having the respect for man to live out his natural life trajectory, and be left alone to make it his will, with the least amount of outside influence forced upon him, consciously or subconsciously, as possible.

>Is that freedom?

Freedom is relative to an individuals definition of freedom. Freedom is more or less a state of mind.

>peoples higher natures.

Thanks I needed a laugh. Higher nature to build parking lots? Consume mindless drivel, buy tickle me elmos, neglect nature and children? Find comfort in sharing opinions via plastic and metal to people who you will never meet via the internet? Higher nature, another relative term, is in the eye of the beholder. I might think a great classical composer appeals to a humans ability to engage in this abstract 'higher nature' you speak of. And yet I might also think that this higher nature is only possessed by a person who can manipulate those around them to do their bidding, without their knowledge but full consent. Maybe a classical composer is just manipulating the mind on a higher nature' who knows.

We get the world we deserve. Can there be a higher nature without a lower nature? Does most of nature gravitate towards the higher part or the lower part? Abstract and irrelevant. Not even the truth matters to most, I could agree, however the truth must matter to those that have power and can be counted on to manipulate the masses into believing self governance on the individual, state and federal level is oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2631

>>1382

>The people swaying your governments, currencies, academia and general afflictions already control money printing in all the major and secondary world powers. They have no need of "earning" money or getting more money.

It fucking derailed right there

There are no world cabals, which doesn't mean some people and groups don't have incredible levels of control and influence, but again its not an all-encompassing cabal

The reason why some countries get to print money without triggering hyperinflation and others don't is that some countries pay their debts on time and thus can make more debt (bonds) because they are AAA ranked meaning its certain those bonds will be paid

The countries that can't print money like that are usually countries with a history of debt defaults and corrupt fucks who steal money from foreign loans to build themselves a mansion in some tax heaven, so they can't make more debt in the form of bonds because they have defaulted in so many times before that said bonds are rated as 'junk' because its very likely they will default again

A country without money or the means to obtain money can't print money, and if they do they are just liquefying their existing funds

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 No.3703

These are nice thoughts, but chances are one could never be more persuasive as the television and the reality it builds around it.

Seems that we are subject to the mass-perception panopticon which trains the 1984 style politically correct police.

Personally I don't think one can guarantee a loyal family, let alone community, in this cultural climate without being near totalitarian.

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 No.3724

>>2454

this is the most fucked incomprehensive flowchart i have ever seen

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 No.2806 [Open thread]

How can we free everyone from their mind cages and other things that would put any kind of limitation in their lifes, even if its a form of faith.

So, how do we free people?

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 No.3123

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>>3122

cont...

>The fear of absolute death: the anxiety of meaninglessness

what sets man apart from animals?

the ability to willfully start fires? a sense of history where ideas are passed on to our progeny along with simple genes? these are the results of something fundemental and that fundemental understanding is death. Man with his evolved psyche and linguistic system can describe not only the act of death, but the implications and understand the finality of it. If all things die then what is the point of living?

Nihilistic dread as a result of eating from the fruit of knowledge and leaving the animals behind in the garden is both the cause of mankind's suffering and its greatness. We cannot come to terms with the fact that we are both capable of infinite mental growth but constrained by a finite physical body. in the end the only option left to us is to transcend death through the greatness of our actions, causing the spirit of our will to impregnate the hearts of those still living. Jesus of Nazarath, Thomas Jefferson and Socrates are very much as alive today as they were when their bodies walked the Earth. No sane person wants to be meaningless and destined to die, so they repress this knowledge either through hedonism or pious zealotry.

The State has capitalized on this inherent anxiety of the human soul. It offers men purpose either through a national identity, a military hierarchy or some other arbitrary goal. This isn't inherently bad, as the inverse of a purposed existence looks like the nightmarish mouse utopia experiments by John Calhoun. It is when this artificial sense of purpose is used as a carrot on a stick to incentivize industrialized slaughter on a massive scale, or keep a mass population in a docile servitude without regard to the natural rights of man that this becomes a problem.

Man can find purpose outside the state. What man needs is a frontier, be it space or on Earth, a frontier that will provide a sense of progression is whPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.3129

>>2806

you know people would just find a new cage to crawl into

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 No.3317

Is the question really how to free them or how to encourage them to free themselves?

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 No.3685

Personally, I want to be free, but only as free as I'd think I could handle. I wouldn't want to be totally "free", whatever that means.

Consider a child, a child should have an intervening eye set on them so they don't stray into death, toward some horrible premature fate. Perhaps there's an eye like this for each one of us, why would one want to be free or to escape its vigilant care.

So, freeing people, I don't worry so much for other people, to each their own means of navigating reality. I would presume of those you're eager to free from "mind cages" are comfortable, or else they'd escape the mind cage into the next one, and so on and so forth.

For our minds need boundaries, else it would have no definition, no form, ergo no direction.

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 No.3716

>>3123

Mouse Utopia experiment has stark parallels to modern society, although I wonder what those conducting the study took out of it, how the information gathered was used, or monetized.

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 No.100 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

What do you believe to be the underlying reasons for SJWism? Or garden-variety conservatism?

Is it sexual?

Is it, more generally, the alpha/beta spectrum?

The allure of rebellion?

One's relation to their parents?

Is it simply natural considering an upbringing which instills no values/particular values?

Or is it tribal thinking, with people simply choosing whichever group they find most appealing in a much more visceral way?

Questions, questions. An awfully broad subject - to which there probably isn't a simple answer - and maybe humans aren't quite so boring, with a different answer for everyone. Wouldn't that be nice?
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 No.2786

First of all bump to a great thread. Quality has been going down all over the chans these days.

After the latest /pol fiasco, I had a thought and remembered this >>299 post, in this very same thread.

Do you remember pic related at the very beginning of gg. This was posted by the mod team that was later confirmed to be SJWs.

Is this a way (((they))) are using to control acts that would otherwise become a problem to the PTB?

Is it possible that this very same method, that we see being played out on fullpol constantly is at the same time being played out at srs tier sites? In the same time dividing us and them while fueling discord even within the groups themselves.

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 No.2787

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>>2786

forgot pic

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 No.2793

>>2540

I find the guy narrating the post to be even cringier than the tumblristas themselves.

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 No.2794

>>334

>>341

I noticed this in theatre, whether middle/high/secondary school theatre, college theatre, or theatre in the adult world. People are feeling like they are free when they take upon themselves camp behavior, whether as out-and-loud homosexuality or at the minimum adopting some of the camp into their otherwise ordinary heterosexuality to gain a sense of belonging and freedom.

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 No.3709

It's the ruling class implementing doctrines via media that polices the average citizen's conduct. Political correctness, sensitivity training, these are methodologies intended to domesticate the population.

It's certainly related to all your proposals, but it is *very* sexual, as perhaps everything ultimately is... So, SJW dogma is rooted in feminism, females control the means of reproduction, and men's instinct to reproduce is often stronger than logical fixations. Like puppies, they'll nod in the affirmative to whatever slogans their women regurgitate if it means they'll have access to sex.

SJW preach hedonism, materialism, void of spirituality as their enemy "patriarchy" is merely a code-word for tradition. The scapegoating of "privilege", from their lexicon, is the ultimate admission of being materialistic, as no longer are people viewed as a genetic continuum but as a tabula rasa product who are randomly born into a random privileged, or "under-privileged" household. Some good NLP there, come to think of it: Have's, Have-Not's.

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 No.2021 [Open thread]

discuss Operation Gladio

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 No.2022

How about telling us what "Operation Gladio" is, what the video consists of, and why we should discuss it?

And if you're in a good mood, you could also capitalize the first letter of the sentence and use a period at the end.

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 No.2093

"Originally aired on BBC2 in 1992, 'Operation Gladio' reveals 'Gladio', the secret state-sponsored terror network operating in Europe.

This BBC series is about a far-right secret army, operated by the CIA and MI6 through NATO, which killed hundreds of innocent Europeans and attempted to blame the deaths on Baader Meinhof, Red Brigades and other left wing groups. Known as 'stay-behinds' these armies were given access to military equipment which was supposed to be used for sabotage after a Soviet invasion. Instead it was used in massacres across mainland Europe as part of a CIA Strategy of Tension. Gladio killing sprees in Belgium and Italy were carried out for the purpose of frightening the national political classes into adopting U.S. policies.

Director Allan Frankovich"

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File: 1441590706184-0.pdf (2.88 MB,Ganser - NATO's Secret Arm….pdf)

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 No.3705

>>2021

Didn't operation Gladio have much to do with the Vatican?

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 No.2660 [Open thread]

Found something interesting, I think it’s a good example of memetic warfare in the wild. The current mainstream economic narrative is that a collapsing China is causing negative contagion to the U.S markets.

I found these posts on reddit that all show a comparison between clean air over a western allies country and smog over China. The same image has been posted in the past with very similar titles, see below -

Submitted 4 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ntjbz/took_off_from_australia_landed_in_china/

Submitted 3 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/15ptce/took_off_in_england_landed_in_china/

Submitted 2 months ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3v55qv/departing_australia_arriving_in_china/

Submitted 3 hours ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/44rx7t/took_off_from_australia_landed_in_china/

And this is the most interesting one, it’s got the same title but a different image. The image is a comic, the final speech bubble says: “And that 4chan is where the devil makes potty”. Aside from none of it being funny or making sense, you end up reaching this last speech bubble and none of it really making much sense other than, perhaps, to connect this negative feeling (“4chan”, “devil”, “potty”) with the idea of the concept of China.

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 No.3704

>>2660

Memetics is just a juvenile term for Magick, symbols control everyone.

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 No.2193 [Open thread]

Imagine that you live in a nation where the elite have no real allegiance to the people. So they import a new people and then manipulate them to subvert the original population.

How would you fight this? Are there good historical examples showing a native population that fought back and won?

>I'll probably expand or re-frame my question because I'm not sure I phrased that correctly but good enough for now. Pic unrelated

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 No.2620

>>2615

> Most people are approval seeking slaves, that would sooner tear apart anyone that tries to help them, than their masters.

Prove it

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 No.2632

>>2615

Are there any books you can recommend specifically about Northern Irish Politics/History? (Or just pan-Irish if that's all you have.) It's been an interest of mine, but I just haven't found the right "in" yet.

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 No.2633

>>2193

>So they import a new people and then manipulate them to subvert the original population

That only works when the new population comes from your population stock

Besides the irish example I would name the south-west united states: that land was all spain's and then mexico's, and the population there was heavily hispanic. Before the US-mexico was you had manifest destiny which was basically a scheme to get as many anglo/north-european to the area as possible in order to out-breed the hispanics (mostly southern europeans and native mexicans) out of the area, which is why the native population of the area which was technically mexico didn't rebel when under US rule, because they were mostly non-hispanics

If western-european leaders wanted to do this they would be much better off letting russians in. The average russian would sell his soul to the labor party, the greens, the socialist and any other party that gives them a EU passport.

The muslims they are letting in don't care about these liberal parties, in fact the favorite party for sweden muslims' is SD, a party most white swedes consider "extreme right" and "anti immigrant"

If anything the current immigration crisis in europe shows you what happens to a political class that lives so isolated they lose any connection with reality. A good parallel is the soviet leadership which lived such sheltered lives that they didn't see the looming economic problems and stagnation that ended up destroying the USSR. You had people like gorbachev who were so fucking oblivious to everything going on that when the berlin wall protests happened he gave no orders because he couldn't believe what was happening, so a bunch of unarmed germans were able to break the wall using hammers while soviet soldier just stood there watching

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 No.2642

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>>2620

>be britcuck

>see my country flooded with foreigners

>see foreigners given preference over our needy

>see eye-watering taxes and rent

>see limp-wristed metrosexuals belittle and mock the masses daily on tv and in the news

>get chastised by fellow plebs for pointing out how cucked we are

>number of cities in flames = 0

>number of smug metrosexuals lynched = 0

Civilization is feminizing. It used to take a Warlord to get Men to follow. Now most 'Men' just love to follow orders, and can be set against each other like women. They can't even control actual women!

Meanwhile, the rest of Nature fight for autonomy and survival 24/7. Animals will fight to the death in the blink of an eye to defend their territory.

Just try and explain that to the average Wagecuck coward.

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 No.3702

>>2620

tasteful quip tbh

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 No.7 [Open thread]

From the /pol/ thread:

The problem is that we will always be reacting, and never forming the base reality. For any of this to work, we'd need to completely IGNORE the mainstream. Provide an alternate version of events whilst not screaming, "LOOK GUYS THIS IS AN ALTERNATE VERSION OF EVENTS".

Setting forth the notion that something is alternate only enforces the notion that what it's alternate from is legitimate.
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 No.2496

>>30

the "not a serious place" idea they are floating reminds me of the zeitgeist around video games. the message is it's for babies but speaking in pure financial terms, it's (i believe) a more lucrative business than film.

makes sense to trivialize valuable spheres so as to ward off idiot competitors

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 No.2497

>>167

this is the purpose of well executed self-deprecation humor. or really any charming reductionist humor. it has the lovely effect of not only addressing the concern the listener is probably dealing with consciously or subconsciously, not only disarming the concern, but in fact (when executed with an appropriate level of finesse) working in the favor of the speaker because we (as the unguarded listener) have enjoyed this display of self awareness and bow tying.

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 No.2498

>>180

i think we are over-estimating the Puppet Master's ability to wholesale create and under-estimating the Pupper Master's ability to improv with severe cleverness and with essentially limitless resources.

it would be easier to mold an already organic chanese to become what you want than to create a language tolken style

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 No.2709

>>180

>>183

Crazy thought, mostly for shits and giggles: what if the AI takeover already happened, and it acts through the veneer of a human "puppet master"? Most people only know of the redshields, etc through certain shadily aggregated information and second-hand research. And maybe the AI then produced highly complicated disinfo in the form of dissenting content and pushed it out to divert all potential threats into futile planning.

After all, if an AI had been created and were logical, limitless in resources, and quick with game theory, it would be the reasonable conclusion to game the system in an undetectable way.

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 No.3701

The word alternate is always going to play out as a secondary role, subject to what is presumed as the primary narrative. Which, seems to be "the mainstream", which is a powerful enough term as is. People are slaves to NLP tactics, so it's best to keep what you're pointing out in mind.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

I don't care for Churchill but this is a good quote.

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 No.2769 [Open thread]

What does it mean!?

Can someone torture out an exact meaning of this quote? Is he talking about the PR industry or propaganda itself? The executive branch "makes sure the laws are obeyed" is one definition I've found, and in America it's composed of the president, departments and agencies*. If PR is the executive branch of invisible government, does that mean the PR heads are presidents of an invisible government?

*according to http://www.usconsulate.org.hk/pas/kids/executive.htm

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 No.2771

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>>2770

But the quote uses exact terms so it wouldn't seem to need a reinterpretation. He could have wrote 'propaganda is the protector of the invisible government'.

It might be how you say or not far off but I wonder if there's a specific meaning based on the choice of the words executive branch and propaganda.

The literal reading of it (to me) yields "Propaganda itself or the organised craft of propaganda, is the equivalent of the executive branch, but for the invisible government".

Then based on how someone defines the executive branch you get something like: A) 'Propaganda is authorised and responsible for the running of something (ie being the executive branch)...' or B) 'Propaganda is organised like the executive branch...' or C) 'Propaganda is the highest post...' of the invisible government.

There can't be many variations of this to see exactly what he's saying, if he is exactly saying something.

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 No.2798

>>2771

what I find more interesting is does this question imply that there are two other branches of this invisible government? What could they be?

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 No.2799

>>2798

yeah if the executive is meant for carrying out the laws, then theres the judicial branch who creates the laws, and lastly theres the judicial branch who evalates those laws, then who are these last two?

Maybe the answer depends on what the 'law' is that propaganda enforces, unless it's a superficial quote.

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 No.2800

>>2799

>judicial which creates the laws

should be legislative.

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 No.3697

>>2769

Propaganda, through the television, is the perhaps the primary means of control, it's created a radical change in behaviors and is weaning society off its instincts.

It decides the symbols in which people dream, embedding itself deep in the unconscious of the average person. Creating composite personalities and engineering new social dynamics.

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 No.1843 [Open thread]

http://anolen.com/2014/11/16/the-banality-of-mind-control/

"What if all those MK ULTRA files that Helms burned were about shuffling the boards of media companies; or working with the Department of Education; or buying recording studios; or employing advertizing consultants? What if MK ULTRA was about the CIA turning itself into the best-organized political lobby ever?

Zimbardo and Andersen’s paper was first published in Cultic Studies Journal, 1984, Volume 1, Number 2. Philip Zimbardo himself was one of the National Academy of Science’s personal sources for their biography of Carl Hovland (Zimbardo was a student of Hovland’s before taking a professorship at Stanford in 1968); Zimbardo was also president of the American Psycological Association, an organization which gets a lot of (bad) play in the MK ULTRA saga. (The APA is currently involved in an ongoing CIA-torture scandal.)

On Resisting Social Influence is an abridged version of a report Zimbardo and Andersen did for the Office of Naval Research, a US military/private industry collaborative organization . (The Office of Naval Research funded Zimbardo’s famous– and creepy– ‘Prison Experiment‘ in 1971, shortly after he got his first professorship. It seems Zimbardo was well connected with the military from day one.)

I’m not saying Philip Zimbardo is necessarily a CIA asset himself, but he learned and worked in their milieu, so I think it would be prudent to carefully consider Zimbardo’s observations on ‘mind control':

Formidable quests to gain control over the human mind have often employed exotic technology. Exquisite torture devices, electroshock therapy, mind altering drugs, hypnosis, and sensory deprivation have all been used to get targeted persons to do the bidding of various agents and agencies of control. Indeed, these methods carry enough wallop to distort and sometimes destroy the mind’s normal functioning. But they are not adequate for the task of reliably directing behavior through specific scenarios as designated by would-be manipulators.

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 No.2792

>>2791

hi shill

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 No.2801

>>2792

A perfect example of who he was talking about.

Where's your proof he's a shill other than that you think his views are unpopular?

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 No.2803

>>2801

I see the same talking point: "your neighbour is a soulless and unfeeling automaton" come up a lot on this site, and it's the stuff the CIA agent Timothy Leary used to come out with; calling people short-haired robots and calling for a short vs long hair civil war.

In this hyper-segregated time where white people are put at odds with each other through countless sub-cultures and ideologies, I think any further call to that suggests the craftsmanship of a shill and agent provocateur, following a textbook divide and conquer strategy that they have so well achieved already.

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 No.2805

>>1843

>>1854

Very interesting. Too bad the site seems to have been wiped out of content.

>vulnerability to manipulation is inversely proportional to the belief that one can be manipulated

That's true. There are a lot of people out there who underestimate their capacity of being manipulated. Pretty much everyone...

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 No.3696

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>>2791

This is a great take on the subject.

In movies, mind-control was touched on more-so in the past, consider science-fiction. The concept became alluded to the robotiziation of a person, a exaggerated parody of subservience.

The reality of mind control is it's much more gentle, it's like getting swept into an ocean consisting of popular opinion.

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 No.235 [Open thread]

Would trying to hasten the global economic collapse be beneficial for us?

We know that within the current paradigm and societal structure, it is incredibly easy for the elite to manipulate the masses towards their goals.

This must surely become more difficult in times of chaos. Too many variables to consider, and too many problems to deal with.

On the other hand, collapse might be part of their goal, and might even be deliberately orchestrated in order to bring in the next stage of their plan.

Whatever the case - they are certainly preparing for a collapse (militarization of police, etc), and with a global economy that relies on infinite growth, using finite resources, we must logically eventually reach stagnation and collapse.

It should have happened in the 2008 financial crisis, but they bought more time with the bank bailouts.

So should we hasten it? Perhaps the sooner the better?
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 No.2313

>>2312

Ok first you need to stop posting those pol-tier memes here, that goes double for leftypol and their unfunny tryhard marxists memes

Second, this:

>the elite always "play all sides" in order to ensure whatever outcome occurs is beneficial to them.

Not really, there are plenty of elites that fall from grace, you just don't hear about them because once they become too poor to be considered elites they vanish into obscurity. There are plenty of elite families that were around a century ago of which you wont hear about now.

Third: there isn't a plan, the difference is that the elites have due to their position and resources, far better access to inside information and connections in key places which allows them to maneuver during a situation like this.

There isn't a better example than the soviet elite despite lacking the wealth of the western elites they were still able to foresee the rapid changes in the USSR and benefit from them by acquiring state-owned companies at a fraction of the price before anyone else could notice the discrepancies.

There isn't "A PLAN", the elites are just improvising most of the time, they just have a far greater ability to do so than the common man, but even them some elites don't make it

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>>2313

>Ok first you need to stop posting those pol-tier memes here

I'll post whatever memes I want to newfriend. I'm sure we're all adult enough here not to get upset about them.

>There isn't a better example than the soviet elite

You again misunderstand, and reveal your own ignorance.

I'm not talking about the elites of specific countries like Russia, or even about the 0.01% richest people in the world.

I am talking about the globalist and occultist banking elite who consist of only a dozen or so well connected families and number in only the thousands.

>Not really, there are plenty of elites that fall from grace, you just don't hear about them because once they become too poor to be considered elites they vanish into obscurity.

The true elite don't even have need for money, because every dollar printed globally is an IOU to them, because they control almost every government globally, and because either directly or indirectly own most of the land and physical assets on the planet.

>There isn't "A PLAN", the elites are just improvising most of the time

How can you believe this when the evidence to the contrary is everywhere.

Why is leftism and globalism being pushed everywhere? From the top down by elite controlled societies and groups like the CFR, Bilderberg group, UN, EU, etc.

Why is internet censorship being pushed? Why are freedoms being eroded? Why is literally everything that could happen which will result in the elite further entrenching their position happening?

Do you seriously think this is all just some coincidence?

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 No.2452

You guys don't get it. EU was created with one goal: declaring economic war on US. Financial crisis was done on purpose of weakening EU to such a degree that it will split up and Euro currency will cease to exist not being a viable competition for US anymore. US printed all the money they needed for bailouts and so much more for military research and by comparison EU (Germany really) forced all the countries to tighten their fiscal politics causing to this day over 25% youth unemployment in spain, greece, south italy ... not to mention how really fucked these countries' budgets are.

And right now "immigrantion" problem into the Germany, you think that these "immigrants" acually did it all by themselves? There were proofs that George Soros is behind it. ISIS was created by US and Israel. Middle east revolutions/wars are couple of years old already.

US doesn't want any competition and Soros, I'm sure he leveraged every cent he had for euro collapse, will make tens of billions on it.

Chinese markets in 2015? US again. I bet they were pumping them for years with all the money they printed and when the time came they just started to sell.

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 No.2817

>>497

>implying that actually works.

>what is logic in electronics

All this will accomplish is to trigger a fault on a control panel somewhere and make manual crossing activation impossible.

The lights won't repeatedly go to cross because the button was never released to reset the cycle.

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 No.3695

It's certainly not up to us to hasten it, but it seems to do so would be in the interest of the ruling class, with their luxury underground bunkers and what not.

I'm coming around to think those in power just want a reset, and the economy crashing would be in their favor as much of the population would likely starve throughout a war.

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 No.2485 [Open thread]

Common themes of:

Socialism (poor, uneducated), Christianity (meek, sick, lost, helpless), Political Correctness/mass immigration ("minorities"), University campus SJW (poor kids with little power that are easy to confuse/brainwash), Feminism (weaker sex), Black Lives Matter (uneducated/poor), Rules for Radicals book (attached), etc

Are all movements that gather and unite masses of poor, uneducated, often stupid "Have Nots" and set them to work against existing power structures / healthy, strong, rich, intelligent segments of society.

Another interesting common thread to these is that almost all are originated from a Jewish source. Whether it be Saul (st Paul re-writing what Jesus meant for his own ends), or Saul the author of "Rules for Radicals", or George Soros funding/organizing: black lives matter and mass immigration to EU, etc

And none of these movements are active in Israel.

Wanting your ideas and constructive criticism.

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 No.2828

>>2493

https://dissidentright.com/2015/12/09/victimization-as-power/

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 No.2831

>>2828

That...is a high quality website. Who runs it? Anyone of note?

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 No.2832

This is the main jewish modus operandi but they have others such as divide and conquering the strong.

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 No.2833

It's just basic crowd psychology. Hitler used it too. Every politician does. If you can strip x group of individuals down to y degenerated traits in the eyes of the crowd you can convince the idiots to do anything for you. Why do you think Trump has built his entire campaign rallying against the 'establishment'? It's not even a delineated term: if you asked a hundred average voters what qualifies as 'establishment' you'd get a hundred answers. Hell, just by me typing that you'll likely see a hundred different answers in this thread as people from both the right and the left get asshurt at me.

Read Gustave le Bon.

And avoid the crowd.

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 No.3694

>>2485

Collectivism is always going to exist, and it'll forever stir in the lower class who will naturally have antagonistic views toward the upper.

Perhaps jews utilize this as a means to power, democracy pulls a lot of weight.

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 No.3693 [Open thread]

How as 9/11 perpetrated? Does anyone on /32/ know about Judy Wood's theories?

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