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File: 50af0cca5a65c69⋯.jpg (172.69 KB, 1200x628, 300:157, pathfinder-wrath-of-the-ri….jpg)

b21b3d  No.16840349[View All]

didn't see a thread on 8kun yet, so I decided to make one

New trailer for Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uye3rHmXk_Q

new stuff introduced:

>Mythic Paths system, which are basically unique sub-classes for your main character that give you game-breaking powers, etc.

>camera can now be rotated 360 degrees, which also means environments will be more unique and detailed.

>kingdom management from Kingmaker dumbed-down in favor of just managing armies to fight the demon hordes, kinda like a game of Risk, but is still essential to winning the game

>Oleg (chief dev.) says he wants less time pressure on players in WotR than was in Kingmaker

>new classes added: Bloodrager, Arcanist, Oracle, Witch, Shaman, Warpriest, Cavalier, Skald

>What is Pathfinder?

Pathfinder is basically a spin-off of D&D 3.5 Edition rules made by the company Paizo Publishing, and is set on the fantasy world called "Golarion". In 2018, a based slav studio called Owlcat Games made Pathfinder: Kingmaker, where you play as a person who inherits a wild land that you must civilize and protect from rivals and monsters. It mainly functions as an isometric party-based RPG, with some strategic management elements viewed from a world map.

tl;dr: It's Baldur's Gate + Civilization

>What is Wrath of the Righteous?

The campaign setting of the new game, which takes place near/inside the borders of the "World Wound", an area on northern Golarion where part of the Chaotic Evil plane known as The Abyss had merged with the material plane; and demons began to spill-out and fuck things up. There are magic pillars that create a magic barrier to keep the demons contained, but some of them break and this leads to a worldwide crisis. You play as a character who becomes a general of an army sent to slay the demons and rebuild the pillars, and you have to complete quests with your party members, while also managing the crusader armies on a world map and dealing with different leaders and officials in order to boost your economy/power. You're not limited to being a "good" or "lawful" character either. For example, many Lawful Evil factions such as the Hell Knights hate the demons also for being chaotic nihilists who just want to destroy everything, whereas the Hell Knights would rather have some plebs/lands to rule-over. You can also just play as a Chaotic Neutral person who's in it for the valuable artifacts and loot. Pathfinder rules make your character very customizable, even letting you mix like 5 or 6 different classes if you want; and now there is a new edition called "Mythic Paths".

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8caea6  No.16840869

>>16840867

>no pic

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8caea6  No.16840872

File: 0a327b27f72ce37⋯.png (465.06 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, Yzv8bTC.png)

>>16840869

>no pic again

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b21b3d  No.16840878

>>16840470

Only thing that bothers me is when melee classes get all the kills before I can cast Fireball or Arc Lightning.

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356eab  No.16840880

>>16840872

Is there a date for this game?

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b21b3d  No.16840888

>>16840720

>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CAST HOLD PERSON ON FEMALE PARTY MEMBERS THEN TURN THEM INTO YOUR PERSONAL ONAHOLE!!!

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b21b3d  No.16840896

>>16840761

What if you're an elf though? You have to pick between dwarven and human gods? Kinda immersion-breaking for me tbh.

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8caea6  No.16840909

>>16840880

>date

Nothing precise, from what I can see in the forums. The game has just entered the closed combat beta stage. I suppose it'll take two more years at least.

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217531  No.16840917

>>16840349

>unique sub-classes for your main character that give you game-breaking powers

That seems unnecessary. The game is completely fine of breaking entirely on it's own. I've had three saves bricked before I stopped trying.

>>16840374

>I haven't heard much about the party members in WotR. Give me a QRD.

Well, the party members in Kingmaker were actually the player characters the developers made when they sat down to play the module. That's why some characters were actually passable stat-wise, some where complete shit, and then there was one faggot who actually played Amiri, the pre-made barbarian.

Going on that information, I'd expect there to be another large set of custom characters, with a mix of some of the characters from the core story. That makes the potential party members completely unpredictable.

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885483  No.16841021

>>16840909

The combat beta was supposed to be public this month. It just got delayed because their modeler/animator died.

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fd5f61  No.16841065

>Chris Avellone

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df5d91  No.16841263

>>16840793

>I wish I had pirated it instead of wasting money

You deserve your disappointment. Gets even better later on when the Kindom 'management' nonsense reveals it's self to be totally borked and makes the game shit the bed unless you turn it off in options. The released a pile of hot trash at the start full of CTDs and memory leak errors, 3 or 4 patches later it was barely playable I wager this will be a tangled mass of christmas lights on arrival too.

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a17ea3  No.16841283

>>16840867

>I recall this retarded halfling (gnome) that you can't even kick out of the party

Linzi's the narrator so she needs some manner of plot contrivance to guarantee her survival

she gets turned into a book and stuck on a shelf at the end. Feel free to imagine this as an irony-laden And I Must Scream scenario

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58a52f  No.16841287

>>16841283

He said (gnome) though so I think he might be talking about Tartuccio in the tutorial.

Funny thing about Linzi though is there is absolutely no way to turn her back. Even if you waifu the villain who turned her into a book in the first place, it's never undone or even considered.

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b21b3d  No.16841293

>>16840917

I would use custom party members, but the in-game gold cost and the fact they don't have any dialogue is off-putting. There are some mods that give custom characters dialogue, but that's still somebody else's creation.

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899a16  No.16841297

>>16841287

>>16841283

Nah, I meant linzi. It's just disrespectful to the player not to allow him to have a say in his party composition, or who's allowed and who's not. In Witcher series Dandelion is the narrator and we meet him a few times in the game, he doesn't have to be nearby all the time.

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a17ea3  No.16841300

>>16841297

you actually can kick Linzi from the active party though; she just waits at the headquarters

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885483  No.16841494

What happens if you give Linzi to the Technic League and never recover her? What about not picking her in the opening and never recruiting her?

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a17ea3  No.16841512

>>16841494

>What happens if you give Linzi to the Technic League and never recover her?

worth discovering

>What about not picking her in the opening and never recruiting her?

not an option. She alerts you to the assassin raid and automatically joins you. Additionally, she always choose to go with you over Tartuccio

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c9b2c6  No.16841568

>>16840793

Other problems: You can't save the retard knight unless you're lawful good. You literally walk in on him getting his ass handed to him because he's a fucking retard. By this point in the game, you can have multiple abilities to heal him, or bring him back to life. If you don't, you just saved the other halfwit who, aside from acting as a plot device, also casts a variety of raise dead spells.

Another one: You find out the assistant to one of your craftsmen is fucking with her business by cursing everything she makes in order to drive her out of business. Your only options are let him go, work with him, kill him, or tell him you won't work with him which leads to you killing him anyway. They are marked as chaotic neutral, lawful evil, chaotic evil, and neutral evil respectively.

>>16841263

The kingdom management is easily the worst thought out part of the game. Despite having multiple people who can do each job, you can only put one person in each position and if they're unavailable, the other retards just sit back at home sucking each other off or whatever the fuck they do.

>>16841512

Nah, you get the undead elf if you pick the evil choice instead. The lawful/chaotic choice gives you either the useless cleric or the Darkness-without-the-lewd fighter.

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885483  No.16841737

>>16840896

The CN deity of revenge (and whores) is an elf. There are other elf and dwarf deities, they just aren't in the "core" pantheon.

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58a52f  No.16841745

>>16841568

You only need Lawful, not Good for that first thing.

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a17ea3  No.16841774

>>16841737

>Calistria is an elf

not quite, though she is originally of the elven pantheon. She was around during the Age of Creation and distracted Rovagug so Torag and Gorum could build his cage without his notice.

the elven deities are generally not actually former elves, this being because the elves in Pathfinder aren't sparkly souled, naturally magical, super special snowflakes. To the contrary, they all came from the planet Castrovel (definitelynotVenus) where they were the least special thing around (fucking everything else there is naturally psychic) and seem to have come to Golarion so they could pretend to be special snowflakes

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b21b3d  No.16841777

>>16841774

They still have a natural +2 Intelligence buff which makes them ideal for people who want to min/max a wizard.

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58a52f  No.16841784

>>16841777

After humans anyway. Humans are ideal for just about everything, since they have +2 to any stat, no penalty, and an extra feat and skill. Elves basically get +2 spell penetration instead of a feat (which could be spent on +2 spell penetration if you really wanted to)

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a17ea3  No.16841817

>>16841784

indeed. The real strength of the elf in PF is free access to elven curveblades (1d10, 18-20, and finessable) and branched spears (1d8, x3, reach, finessable, and has a +2 on attack rolls for AoO from movement), which are among the strongest weapons in the game

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58a52f  No.16841833

>>16841817

I generally prefer a Fauchard if I'm going two-handed, but obviously if you want two-handed+finesse those are basically the only options. However unless you want both on the same character or don't have martial proff by default, you can still get either of them for the cost of one feat (ie the human bonus feat). At that point the elf has the spell pen advantage, but if you are taking feats for exotic two-handed weapons you probably aren't much of a spellcaster.

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885483  No.16842153

Owlcat just did a stream and responded to a question asking if two of the notoriously bad NPCs from the AP would be fixed by muting the asker. Shit confirmed.

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afe7e3  No.16842182

Doing my hard playthrough now (unfair is too fakken boolshit) and I have to use Octavia. Who wrote this bitch?

I hate Octavia and Reg so much faggot and a whore. They give Octavia a cute voice? How is it cute to keep interrupting my adventure every 30 seconds with how much of whore you are desperate for cocks.

There is no way Octavia is chaotic good she's gotta be evil.

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029392  No.16842214

>>16841263

>>16841568

>Gets even better later on when the Kindom 'management' nonsense reveals it's self to be totally borked and makes the game shit the bed unless you turn it off in options.

I just started playing since 2.7 edition, and my main problem is that when you get to Chapter 4 or so, the DC of the "Problem" events are so high that none of the advisors have more than a 70% chance of passing them without spending Crisis Points. Some events even have a DC of like 38, lol fuck that shit; and that was on Normal.

I tried to level-up advisors evenly, but it turns out the best option is to just focus on like the General, Councilor, and High Priest and get them to level 6 or 7 as fast as possible.

I think I can still make it to the end of chapter 6 by blowing all my personal gold on Building Points and just bribing the plebs with feasts so they don't revolt. This must be how Roman emperors felt. Sucks because I wanted to buy some high-level resistance and AC items.

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b21b3d  No.16842237

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b21b3d  No.16842239

File: 33e149877af3385⋯.jpg (379.22 KB, 1159x1500, 1159:1500, Pathfinder Western Golario….jpg)

>>16842237

>pic won't upload

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a17ea3  No.16842293

File: bfad298ac2eef88⋯.jpg (2.08 MB, 2500x3263, 2500:3263, Pathfinder_Tian_Xia_Map.jpg)

>>16842239

don't forget the Tian Xia map

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afe7e3  No.16842322

What area the new game is gonna be in?

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c9b2c6  No.16842341

>>16842214

I gave up on the game after the Vanishing Varnhold part, but at that point, there was fucking nothing to spend money on. Even just selling the trash +1 and +2 items I found had me nearing a million GP. Couldn't even ask the artisans working for me to make me something good, just some ambiguous "make me a fast weapon" or "make me a potion".

Another issue I had with the game is it outright cheats at times. Playing a rogue is painful since enemies will just spot you without a spot check or something like true sight or lifesense, and occasionally they'll just nerf your stealth skill without any notice which leads to stupid shit like a rogue with 40+ points in Stealth having a stealth DC of less than 15.

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b21b3d  No.16842362

>>16842322

The World Wound, showed in the far north of this map:

>>16842239

There used to be a kingdom there before a portal to the Abyss opened and demons destroyed and ate everything. Crusader paladins built a magic barrier around it to keep the demons contained.

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b21b3d  No.16842369

>>16842341

Most of your gold comes from loot found in major dungeons. The Varnhold Vanishing questline ends with you going to Vordakai's tomb to rescue the kidnapped citizens, and there's a bunch of loot in there.

Also a fuckton of zombies and Soul Easters that drain your Wisdom permanently, which requires Restoration and Greater Restoration scrolls to fix. Make sure to take both Tristian and Harrim and, be level 12. It helps if you have a bunch of spells that give you buffs against Evil/Undead creatures such as Angelic Aspect and Eagle Soul. My MC is a Paladin so it was a bit easier for me. Even though I had to turn it on easy mode during that part where you fall into a cave full of sticky oil, with like 30 zombies in it, fuck that lol.

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b21b3d  No.16842380

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>>16842341

>>16840349

>Couldn't even ask the artisans working for me to make me something good, just some ambiguous "make me a fast weapon" or "make me a potion".

Here's an official list of all the items the Artisans can make:

https://www.neoseeker.com/pathfinder-kingmaker/loot/Artisan_Items_Crafter_Masterworks

Each Artisan has a "home town" that they appear in when you build a village in that region. You'll get a journal notification to go there and talk to them (look for NPCs in the village with a unique name). After you talk to them, they will be able to make "basic" items for you based on something general you request from them. They will also contact you at some point asking for a favor, which launches a sidequest. If you complete their sidequest, they unlock the option to make their unique "Masterwork" item, and also will generally make higher-level items for you from their per-generated list. Turning their home village into a Town or City, and giving their region Region Upgrades also increases the chances of them making you a better item.

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b3ebb0  No.16842398

The game suffers from the same shit what makes Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Fallout 4 a massive cancer and an insta uninstall.

Being nice to someone and you just accidently fuck an edgelord goat girl. Sigh…

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7aa20a  No.16842403

File: 618024e3d11f7e7⋯.jpg (184.17 KB, 405x720, 9:16, neckbeard.jpg)

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7aa20a  No.16842404

Stop eating my images.

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7aa20a  No.16842405

File: dc15e013358bb22⋯.jpg (312.21 KB, 1560x725, 312:145, datfuckinraptor.jpg)

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4c2e09  No.16842491

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>>16840371

>Lich

Will play the game just fort this. There are far too few necromancer games.

Not expecting much, though. Kingmaker was a buggy mess with an uninteresting story and annoying game mechanics. I never finished it.

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61dd2f  No.16842581

>>16842398

But if you want to get the nice fire cleric into bed it takes literally years of treating him right. Worth.

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61dd2f  No.16842585

>>16842341

The cheating is bad, and it gets worse late game. The final dungeon is absolutely packed with the same spammed cheating enemies which require feats to counter that the feat is definitely designed for.

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61dd2f  No.16842588

>>16842585

definitely not designed for*

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58a52f  No.16842700

>>16842588

>>16842585

Gaze attacks can be countered in tabletop by closing your eyes, which has the effect of granting the enemy total concealment. Blind fight helps against total concealment, though not completely. Because adding the option to close your eyes or not would be a bit too much complexity for a video game like this, they chose a compromise. You now automatically close your eyes to counter gaze attacks if and only if you have the blind fight feat, but the remaining penalty is removed since you no longer have the option to NOT do it either.

Also there are other ways to handle it. Freedom of Movement I believe negates the effect. I think I remember holy aura and other alignment-aura spells (regardless of enemy alignment) also granting immunity, but if they do that's something specific to the game and not pathfinder rules.

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c9b2c6  No.16842785

>>16842369

I finished Vanishing Varnhold. I ended up spending about 200k on build points simply because there was nothing else to spend it on.

>>16842380

Yeah, but that still depends on some amount of randomness to give you the weapon you want. You can't just go to them and say "make me an awesome estoc" or "make me a +4 keen speed longsword", regardless of how much money you have. So it ends up with you having a bunch of artisans, each specialised in making some piece of gear you want, but each of them decides to make some piece of trash that nobody in your preferred party wants to touch.

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b21b3d  No.16842818

>>16842785

A Cloak of Resistance +6 costs 140K gold.

It's best to save up a bunch before going to the Pitax fair at Rushlight Fields.

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8511a7  No.16842840

Do you still have to do the "repeatedly clear and reset this copy paste dungeon 4 fucking times (with RNG spawn bosses you have to beat) to face the final boss" in the standalone dungeon crawl part?

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aa9d16  No.16843606

>>16840371

I don't want to be that guy, but that pic is a borring design. They could at least make him gold or something.

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