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37efbd  No.9207873[View All]

Good day to anons reading this,

This thread is going to be an attempt to build the Qmap by building the bridges and making the connections between different issues & threads, as well as finding out the truth about the REAL history of mankind. It’s all about digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs, digs…

Link to Bridges & Maps 3: https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/6687429.html

Archives of :

Bridges & Maps 1: http://archive.is/yzA4B

Bridges & Maps 2: https://archive.is/VbcWi

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0c1a60  No.10100125

>>10089922

(Please read from the start)

Then I took a very quick look at South European countries to see if there are any maritime fossils findings:

Portugal: https://www.paleontica.org/sites/fossil_site.php?plaats=129&language=en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourinh%C3%A3_Formation

“The Lourinhã Formation is a fossil rich geological formation in western Portugal, named for the municipality of Lourinhã. The formation is Late Jurassic in age (Kimmeridgian/Tithonian) and is notable for containing a fauna especially similar to that of the Morrison Formation in the United States and a lesser extent to the Tendaguru Formation in Tanzania. There are also similarities to the nearby Villar del Arzobispo Formation. The stratigraphy of the formation and the basin in general is complex and controversial, with the constituent member beds belonging to the formation varying between different authors.

Besides the fossil bones, Lourinhã Formation is well known for the fossil tracks[2] and fossilized dinosaur eggs.

The Lourinhã Formation includes several lithostratigraphic units, such as Praia da Amoreira-Porto Novo Members and the Sobral Unit.”

>> Please anons, take note with a big bold red pen, this is super important for later. And if I forgot to mention this, remind me of it. Please.

Spain: https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/03/04/researchers-discover-first-fossils-of-prehistoric-sea-creature-in-spain/

France: https://www.paleontica.org/sites/fossil_site.php?plaats=66&language=en

Italy: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/04/largest-fossil-blue-whale-found-italy-paleontology/

Albania: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328539013_Morave_Mt_Oligocene-Middle_Miocene_succession_of_Albanian-Thessalian_Basin_MORAVA_MOUNTAIN_OLIGOCENE-MIDDLE_MIOCENE_SUCCESSION_OF_ALBANIAN-THESSALIAN_BASIN_SE_ALBANIA

Greece: http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/9.The%20unknown%20Greek%20paleoenvironment%20and%20fossils%20evaluated%20Geography%20curriculum%20proposals%20for%20elementary%20school.pdf

>> This is only a shallow quick look anons. I didn’t go deep and serious into it because I only want to check if the fossils are there, I’m not interested in the information in them = ONLY if they exist or not. And it turned out they did, in all the countries surrounding the Med Sea. And this is what anons need to take note of = the existence of maritime fossils, even deep sea ones, in all the countries around the Med Sea = the entire region was submerged.

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c6e77c  No.10107086

Interesting read, well done Anon.

Some thoughts:

Armenian genocide - Why?

To prevent the truth about 'Noah' s Ark' becoming common knowledge, that a (possibly global?) catastrophe happened and some survivors (preppers?) of a technologically capable civilisation landed their vessel on mt ararat to begin anew, mingling with the recently evolved chimp-men of africa that filled the void created by the extinction of the tropical saharan wakandans (maybe, lol)…

… completely debunking the monotheistic creation stories and firmly flushing both testaments and their retarded cousin down the toilet of bad fiction.

That news getting out would not go down well in certain ellipses…

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937013  No.10113442

File: b87d1a80a981750⋯.jpg (148.12 KB, 744x905, 744:905, Charles_Darwin_Portrait.jpg)

File: 74c238b97ea5587⋯.jpg (128.32 KB, 600x900, 2:3, Tree_of_Life.jpg)

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>>10100125

(Please read from the start)

Just a quick look at Darwinism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

“Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809–1882) and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce. Also called Darwinian theory, it originally included the broad concepts of transmutation of species or of evolution which gained general scientific acceptance after Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859, including concepts which predated Darwin's theories. English biologist Thomas Henry Huxley coined the term Darwinism in April 1860.”

“Terminological confusion

Darwinism subsequently referred to the specific concepts of natural selection, the Weismann barrier, or the central dogma of molecular biology.[2] Though the term usually refers strictly to biological evolution, creationists[who?] have appropriated it to refer to the origin of life.[3] It is therefore considered the belief and acceptance of Darwin's and of his predecessors' work, in place of other concepts, including divine design and extraterrestrial origins.

[…]

While the term Darwinism has remained in use amongst the public when referring to modern evolutionary theory, it has increasingly been argued by science writers such as Olivia Judson and Eugenie Scott that it is an inappropriate term for modern evolutionary theory.[7][8] For example, Darwin was unfamiliar with the work of the Moravian scientist and Augustinian friar Gregor Mendel,[9] and as a result had only a vague and inaccurate understanding of heredity. He naturally had no inkling of later theoretical developments and, like Mendel himself, knew nothing of genetic drift, for example.

In the United States, creationists often use the term "Darwinism" as a pejorative term in reference to beliefs such as scientific materialism, but in the United Kingdom the term has no negative connotations, being freely used as a shorthand for the body of theory dealing with evolution, and in particular, with evolution by natural selection.

>> See how this page in Wikipedia is written anons? Compare how it’s written with how (((they))) write about the “fringe” theories. The Creationists are such bad people! That is if you believe the narrative (((they))) are putting forward.

“These are the basic tenets of evolution by natural selection as defined by Darwin:

1. More individuals are produced each generation than can survive.

2. Phenotypic variation exists among individuals and the variation is heritable.

3. Those individuals with heritable traits better suited to the environment will survive.

4. When reproductive isolation occurs new species will form.”

For additional information if anons wants to read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

The biblical theory is God created everything while with the evolution theories, including the one of Darwin there has been an evolution where only the fittest survive. Based on this, along the decades, “scientists” have built up the “Tree of Evolution” (or Tree of Life) and they have divided time into eras or geological periods like the: “Miocene, Pliocene, Tertiary, Quaternary”. I’m just giving random examples of the names anons – hope I got the names right, I always forget them. Of course they classified the fauna according to the geological eras, putting the species in this or that era. But all of this is in full front collision with the existence of Noah’s Ark on Mt Ararat (I’ve said this before). So I’m seriously doubting all of the classifications and the divisions and the geological eras and the dates given to everything (= dating millions of years this or that).

All of this, it’s time to seriously start to question it. It’s time to consider the possibility that all of this is incorrect and that MAYBE, just MAYBE the dinosaurs didn’t exist millions of years ago but co-existed with Humans (JUST MAYBE). That maybe, just maybe, all of these incredible maritime fossils we see all around the Med Sea, like a belt, maybe, they weren’t millions of years old, but just a few thousands of years old, dating back from AROUND when the Flood occurred. Super crazy idea, right? Well, I will let you take note for now and think about it. Let’s check the other puzzle pieces before we make up our minds because even I am hesitating about this point. I’ve been convinced so much of the evolution theory for most of my life; this is why this is taking some time to sink in for me. All I’m asking for now is to take this into consideration anons.

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937013  No.10113476

File: 89bc9faaf097c5d⋯.png (2 MB, 800x1389, 800:1389, MapGreatRiftValley.png)

File: 642d0f37bee2861⋯.png (41.61 KB, 454x382, 227:191, EAfrica_with_active_volcan….png)

>>10113442

(Please read from the start)

In page 222 I’ve said I had a thought when I read about the fossils in Libya matching those in Fayum and Oman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea

“The Red Sea (Arabic: Al Baḥr al aḥmar‎, Hebrew: Yam Soof ים סוף or HaYam HaAdom הים האדום) is a seawater inlet of the Indian Ocean, lying between Africa and Asia. The connection to the ocean is in the south through the Bab el Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Aden. To the north lie the Sinai Peninsula, the Gulf of Aqaba, and the Gulf of Suez (leading to the Suez Canal). The Red Sea is a Global 200 ecoregion. The sea is underlain by the Red Sea Rift which is part of the Great Rift Valley.”

[…]

“Geology

The Red Sea was formed by the Arabian peninsula being split from the Horn of Africa by movement of the Red Sea Rift. This split started in the Eocene and accelerated during the Oligocene.”

>> So at some point in time the Arabic peninsula and Africa were connected and not separated by the Red Sea. This explains the findings of page 222.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Rift_Valley

“The Great Rift Valley is a series of contiguous geographic trenches, approximately 6,000 kilometres (3,700 mi) in total length, that runs from the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon which is in Asia to Mozambique in Southeast Africa.[1] While the name continues in some usages, it is rarely used in geology as it is considered an imprecise merging of separate though related rift and fault systems.”

>> Is it farfetched anons to consider the possibility this rift occurring during the cataclysm?

We see the mass of water covering all of the countries surrounding the Med Sea because of the fossils. But we also have similarities in the type of fossils between one region and the other. So could they have been connected back then? It seems the answer is a YES. And we’ve seen the bridge of land between Tunisia and Italy get underwater because of this cataclysm during the same period. So can we assume that land MOVED and SPLIT elsewhere in the region, not just submerged? It seems so anons, from the look of it all, it seems this is exactly what happened.

I’m starting to have a very different picture in my mind anons about this cataclysm. It wasn’t just rain flooding the entire region. We also had massive amount of water displacement. There were additionally things taking place with the land. And if land moved, it means Earthquakes, right? And just by looking at the second map I’ve attached with this drop, the line where the rift occurred is literally sprinkled with Volcanoes. Geology, fossils and maps are telling us a very different story than just loads of rain water falling in the region. It’s starting to look like a full scale cataclysm, Armageddon scenario type.

With this I would have finished with the African continent, time to move to another one.

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03f38e  No.10114049

>>10113442

Nothing you have written invalidates the theory of evolution.

'we' might not have evolved from apes - the previous civilisation version of humans might not have either. That probably happened three or four cataclysms ago…

I noted your use of godchecker - if your god exists, why not all 3000+?

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3f8225  No.10123744

>>10113476

(Please read from the start)

Next, I checked Central America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_flood_myths

“Many Mesoamerican flood myths have been documented in written form or passed down through in oral tradition. Some clearly have Christian influences, but others are believed by scholars to represent native flood myths of pre-Columbian origin.[1]

One myth documented among the Tlapanec and Huaxtecs has a man and his dog as the sole survivors of the deluge, but the man finds out that the dog takes the shape of a woman during the day when he is away. The man and the dogwoman then repopulate the earth. Another myth found among the Aztec and Totonac peoples relates how a human couple survive by hiding in a hollow vessel and start to cook a fish when the water subsides. When the smoke reaches the heavens the gods become angry and punish them by turning them into dogs or monkeys depending on the version.”

>> Super important: “hide in a hollow vessel” = like a boat or an ARK. Another notable is the SMOKE reaching the Heavens and the gods getting angry and punishing the couple. Didn’t Utnapishtin make a sacrifice as soon as he got out of the Ark? (page 39). Remember the single black cloud that rose on the horizon at dawn in the Epic of Gilgamesh? (Page 41)

“In Maya mythology as expressed in the Popol Vuh the creator gods attempted to create creatures who would worship them three times before finally succeeding in creating a race of humans that would pay proper homage to their creators. The three previous creations were destroyed. The third race of humans carved from wood were destroyed by a flood, mauled by wild animals and smashed by their own tools and utensils.[2][3] Maya flood myths recorded by Diego de Landa and in the Chilam Balam of Chumayel holds that the only survivors of the flood were the four Bacabs who took their places as upholders of the four corners of the sky.

In many Mesoamerican flood myths, especially recorded among the Nahua (Aztec), peoples tell that there were no survivors of the flood and creation had to start from scratch, while other accounts relate that current humans are descended from a small number of survivors. In some accounts the survivors transgress against the gods by lighting a fire and consequently are turned into animals. Horcasitas acknowledges that the dog-wife tale and the tale of transgression by fire and subsequent turning into animals of the flood survivors may be of pre-Columbian origin.”

>> So just like what we see in Dogon stories, here, the cause of the Great Flood seem to be some type of great transgression or should I say SIN; even cannibalism was suspected as being the cause of it. Pay attention to that single black cloud I just mentioned in my earlier comment anons. What can cause a SINGLE black cloud to be FORMED? = FIRE. Here, we have an additional piece of the puzzle to link with the others about the cataclysm.

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dff26c  No.10137036

>>10123744

(Please read from the start)

The most important parts are these:

1 – “While other accounts relate that current humans are descended from a small number of survivors”: Well, anons, it does fit extremely well with my little discovery of the Sumerians coming out of Noah’s Ark and navigating down the Euphrates using the Kuphar. When you look at it well, whoever came out of Noah’s Ark are the survivors of the deluge and the established civilizations later on were built by the descendants of those survivors.

2 – “The tale of transgression by fire and subsequent turning into animals of the flood survivors may be of pre-Columbian origin”: we’ve seen this before, in a shallow way anons. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, there was A BLACK CLOUD….. No one noticed that, right? Just ONE cloud was mentioned in the epic. Has anyone seen a storm with just ONE cloud? What can generate ONE BLACK cloud apart something burning? = FIRE. We don’t have the mention of fire in ancient Egypt but we do have it in the Dogon stories. Remember Amma brought the fire along the pyramid filled with animals? The fire came from the SKY, according to the Dogons. And here we have humans discovering “fire” which was the offense towards the gods and it’s the cause or should I say the start of the Flood.

So in very different cultures, just before the Great Flood happened, Fire played a role in the story/myth. This is very interesting anons.

I first checked the Olmec civilization because it’s the oldest in the region. Since I’m not familiar with the civilization, a quick look is in order to get acquainted with it, as well checking out the Flood myths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs

“The Olmecs (/ˈɒlmɛks, ˈoʊl-/) were the earliest known major Mesoamerican civilization. Following a progressive development in Soconusco, they occupied the tropical lowlands of the modern-day Mexican states of Veracruz and Tabasco. It has been speculated that the Olmecs derived in part from the neighboring Mokaya or Mixe–Zoque cultures.

The Olmecs flourished during Mesoamerica's formative period, dating roughly from as early as 1500 BCE to about 400 BCE. Pre-Olmec cultures had flourished since about 2500 BCE, but by 1600–1500 BCE, early Olmec culture had emerged, centered on the San Lorenzo Tenochtitlán site near the coast in southeast Veracruz.[1] They were the first Mesoamerican civilization, and laid many of the foundations for the civilizations that followed.[2] Among other "firsts", the Olmec appeared to practice ritual bloodletting and played the Mesoamerican ballgame, hallmarks of nearly all subsequent Mesoamerican societies. The aspect of the Olmecs most familiar now is their artwork, particularly the aptly named "colossal heads".[3] The Olmec civilization was first defined through artifacts which collectors purchased on the pre-Columbian art market in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Olmec artworks are considered among ancient America's most striking.”

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dff26c  No.10137040

File: 91fb2bfe35a06e5⋯.jpg (191.27 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Olmec_Baby_Jaguar_La_Venta….jpg)

>>10137036

(Please read from the start)

“Bloodletting and sacrifice speculation:

Although the archaeological record does not include explicit representation of Olmec bloodletting,[56] researchers have found other evidence that the Olmec ritually practiced it. For example, numerous natural and ceramic stingray spikes and maguey thorns have been found at Olmec sites,[57] and certain artifacts have been identified as bloodletters.

The argument that the Olmec instituted human sacrifice is significantly more speculative. No Olmec or Olmec-influenced sacrificial artifacts have yet been discovered; no Olmec or Olmec-influenced artwork unambiguously shows sacrificial victims (as do the danzante figures of Monte Albán) or scenes of human sacrifice (such as can be seen in the famous ballcourt mural from El Tajin).

At the El Manatí site, disarticulated skulls and femurs, as well as the complete skeletons of newborn or unborn children, have been discovered amidst the other offerings, leading to speculation concerning infant sacrifice. Scholars have not determined how the infants met their deaths.[60] Some authors have associated infant sacrifice with Olmec ritual art showing limp were-jaguar babies, most famously in La Venta's Altar 5 (on the right) or Las Limas figure.[61] Any definitive answer requires further findings.”

>> Cannibalism was mentioned before, but now we have suspicion of human ritual sacrifice and children ritual sacrifice; even though there is no direct evidence.

Anons should start comparing the information we are getting from Central America with Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia and the Dogon people.

“Mesoamerican ballgame

The Olmec are strong candidates for originating the Mesoamerican ballgame so prevalent among later cultures of the region and used for recreational and religious purposes.[72] A dozen rubber balls dating to 1600 BCE or earlier have been found in El Manatí, a bog 10 km (6.2 mi) east of San Lorenzo Tenochtitlan.[73] These balls predate the earliest ballcourt yet discovered at Paso de la Amada, circa 1400 BCE, although there is no certainty that they were used in the ballgame.”

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dff26c  No.10137047

File: d76a69939dfdffc⋯.jpg (954.19 KB, 3550x3072, 1775:1536, Olmec_throne_from_Loma_de_….jpg)

File: 5018df1c7b36336⋯.jpg (218.53 KB, 1500x1500, 1:1, Atlas.jpg)

>>10137040

(Please read from the start)

“Olmec culture was unknown to historians until the mid-19th century. In 1869, the Mexican antiquarian traveller José Melgar y Serrano published a description of the first Olmec monument to have been found in situ. This monument – the colossal head now labelled Tres Zapotes Monument A – had been discovered in the late 1850s by a farm worker clearing forested land on a hacienda in Veracruz. Hearing about the curious find while travelling through the region, Melgar y Serrano first visited the site in 1862 to see for himself and complete the partially exposed sculpture's excavation.”

>> So here again, the first discoveries of the Olmecs took place starting mid 1850s; lasting all the way till recent times.

“Olmec religious activities were performed by a combination of rulers, full-time priests, and shamans. The rulers seem to have been the most important religious figures, with their links to the Olmec deities or supernaturals providing legitimacy for their rule.[80] There is also considerable evidence for shamans in the Olmec archaeological record, particularly in the so-called "transformation figures".

“As Olmec mythology has left no documents comparable to the Popul Vuh from Maya mythology, any exposition of Olmec mythology must be based on interpretations of surviving monumental and portable art (such as the Señor de Las Limas statue at the Xalapa Museum), and comparisons with other Mesoamerican mythologies. Olmec art shows that such deities as the Feathered Serpent and a rain supernatural were already in the Mesoamerican pantheon in Olmec times.”

>> The Snake/Serpent pops up AGAIN.

“Partly because the Olmecs developed the first Mesoamerican civilization, and partly because little is known of them (compared with, for example, the Maya or Aztec), a number of Olmec alternative origin speculations have been put forth. Although several of these speculations, particularly the theory that the Olmecs were of African origin popularized by Ivan van Sertima's book They Came Before Columbus, have become well known within popular culture. They are not considered credible by the vast majority of Mesoamerican researchers and scientists, who discard it as pop-culture pseudo-science.”

>> It’s understandable! Sertima got this idea because of how well the South American continent fits perfectly with the African continent.

“As of 2018, mitochondrial DNA study carried out on Olmec remains, one from San Lorenzo and the other from Loma del Zapote, resulted, in both cases, in the “unequivocal presence of the distinctive mutations of the “A” maternal lineage. That is, the origin of the Olmecs is not in Africa but in America, since they share the most abundant of the five mitochondrial haplogroups characteristic of the indigenous populations of our continent: A, B, C, D and X.”

>> This study sounds interesting. I wonder who is funding it? Wanna have a guess anons?

I want to bring attention to what is believed to be an Olmec throne: it was found in Loma de Zapote-Potrero Nuevo, Veracruz, Mexico. Some believe there are similarities with the concept of the Titan Atlas.

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32085a  No.10147615

File: 9147b1544a4878b⋯.png (36.97 KB, 230x220, 23:22, ClipboardImage.png)

>>9290422

John Dee, the original 007, was court astronomer and advisor to Elizabeth I. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee

According to works by Michael Tsarion, Dee was able to make contact with what he called the Macrobes (like microbes, but big instead of small).

From Tsarion: https://truthscrambler.com/2017/12/21/michael-tsarion-john-dee-and-the-macrobes/

Michael Tsarion – John Dee and The Macrobes

Posted on December 21, 2017 by UponTheFaceOfTheWaters

From the lecture: The Earth Is in Quarantine. (Part 1 here)

Tsarion: Let me draw a picture for you about a specific time in England, in the 17th century at the time of the Tudor dynasty, a big agenda took place, and it had to do with a character named Sir John Dee. And he worked for the British government, and he was also the ambassador to the court of King James and Queen Elizabeth I, and when he wrote back to the queen, he wrote his signature “007.” because he was the head of MI5, British secret service comes at the end of the Tudor dynasty in the 15th century. Ian Flemming the author of James Bond was a member of the secret service, and when he retired he wrote about his organization. The movies also tell you amazing stories, if you know how to watch them.

Notice MI5’s logo, with the pyramid and the eye on top? Well John Dee was a great occultist, sacred geometrist, and court astrologist to Queen Elizabeth. And he was a Rosicrucian, which is why in every capital of the world you have the rose garden, it’s the Tudor rose.

John dee was the man around the time when they actually discovered, there is a barrier up there (the earth is in quarantine: there is a barrier around the planet). They had telescopes and some primitive flying ships. and they tried to leave the planet and couldn’t do it. These technocrats realized they have a serious problem here, no matter what we build, there is a blinkin’ star gate up there. so they were in turmoil, they were in a dilemma, imprisoned in this planet. Remember in the Bible it says “and God will chain the beast to the pit for a thousand years.” Satan being chained to a pit. they realized they couldn’t get out. So John Dee said we need another approach. And he contacted his patrons, the queen of england and her coterie, these original Illuminati types. and he said we need to go to another higher form of intelligence, not extra-terrestrial, but pan-dimensional. they may be able to help us with this. this wasnt the first time a portal would be opened on our earth and it wouldn’t be the last. John Dee contacted some beings that CS Lewis refers to as the Macrobes.

he said that under our level of perception we have the microbes., well CS lewis says there’s another level above us which is the same, we can’t see it with our physical instruments, the instrument of knowing that is the human intuition, or imagination. Well, John Dee being an occultist, a magician of very great power, opened a portal in england in the 15th century and contacted beings of a higher intelligence, these Macrobes. And macrobes don’t actually like being pestered by inferior beings such as himself. And we can’t say if they’re good or they’re bad, those terms don’t work with this sort. But as his mind is nearly frazzled with their interaction, they actually did say “oh whats your problem? oh yeah well we can fix that.” So he said, “Let’s do it.”

But the only trouble was that in order to do it, the information they had to pour through his consciousness, would take literally thousands of years to manifest in real-time. This work was called Enochian magick by the way. It was too big for his consciousness so he had to get all his counterparts in Europe to get on the ball with this, so all these black nobility families and Illuminati families were all working simultaneously at the same time, but obviously history would catch on to this, so they sold it back to us as the “renaissance” and everyone was into it, like a vogue thing. So they put it in this quaint way. The real story was that these scholars were working on this vast amount of knowledge pouring in day and night though the psychics of the world working for these royal families of the world, Cornelius Agrippa and these guys, writing it down.

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32085a  No.10147620

>>10147615

(Cont)

And then later on it was discovered that it’s so much information, and hard to practicalize, and they don’t even really know what it is, because its advanced science, way beyond what this guy could translate. But it was realized that having individual geniuses working in their little garrisons was not good enough, you have to bring it together, places where scholars could come. and we call these universe-cities, or universities. or colleges, where you collage information. It’s not for you, me and grandma to get a degree. They don’t care about us. Just fifty years ago your fathers didn’t have the privilege of education, they were sweating on the fields, wondering what life was about.

But they found out that to get what you need, you needed to basically use the entire planets mineral resources to pay the people; it’s a business, to build these super technologies. And isn’t it that time, the 14th and 15th century we have the rise of the British empire, this little country spreading its tentacles around the world, isn’t it that time we have the stock exchange rising, the cultural and agricultural revolution rising, so many things out of this time, the new science of Francis Bacon and Newton, and Copernicus, and Kepler? All looks very divided doesn’t it? Well because we are learning it from the universities put together by them in the first place, who know how to disseminate knowledge so that you won’t see the overall pattern, but the few at the top of the pyramid know whats really going on. Just visit England sometime, and you will see: 90% of the stately homes in England today were built around the 16th century. Before that the kings were shivering in their castles, they didn’t even have glass for the windows. Yet suddenly something happens.

But the empire arose and they sent out their pirates. Their emissaries from the Hudson Bay company and the East India company, to the four corners of the world to enslave the world to get the mineral resources, to get the gold you see? To bring it all back for one agenda orchestrated by very few people of the Tudor Dynasty. America’s destiny is very much wrapped up in this. Through the Hudson bay co. and the Russell trust, this country was taken over by pirates. “Pyro-te” fire, the fire ones, the illuminati, the ones who have the fire, just study the pirates alone. Some of these pirate leaders had magical powers, they were also extremely brutal and ruthless.

Now, the Macrobes, they don’t nothing for free. First of all they told John Dee and his cohorts to get the key to the stargate you have to do two things: the first thing is find out how to make matter from energy. But you are too stupid to know how to do that, so we have to teach you how to do the opposite first, which is how to release energy from matter. And that alone is gong to take you 500 years. Remember when Oppenheimer split the atom, that was when they patted themselves on the back because phase 1 was accomplished. Now they are doing the opposite: how to create matter from energy. Which is what the Macrobes told them they need to do to get out of the stargate. MIT, SRI, Sun Corp are just fronts for that particular agenda.

The second key involved the element Silicon. You are talking to John Dee in the 14th-15th century, he’s not gonna know what any of this means. What we are calling the “Silicon Revolution” is the end game being played out.

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32085a  No.10147632

>>10147620

(Cont. 2)

But the macrobes don’t do anything for nothing. so john dee goes, “well what do you want? In return for your knowledge?” They said, “we want blood.” Just like any vampire right, blood is energy. When you study the occult, you find that blood is energy. So John Dee goes “oh, well how much do you want and where do you want it?” When and where? So the macrobes said, “well we want sacrifices.” Well isn’t it around that time in the 16th century that the wars begin? Not battles between two maniac kings with 100 knights, but wars? not only the ships and the trade routes and debauchery, but africa, think about what they did to that continent alone? think about they’ve done in america. Why do all the soldiers wear occult symbols? Because in order to have a ritual death, even if it’s your common garden black magician whose going to kill a cat. They have to draw the right circle, do it under the right constellation, do it with the right timing. Think of a mass on a huge level that has to send up energy to these beings. It doesn’t count as a ritual sacrifice unless certain things are done properly. So the location is very important, and the timing, the ritual centers, our cities are actually ritual centers. Do you know there are 23 zodiacs sequestered into Washington DC alone.

So when you see these ritual centers, these cities the geometries that’s been proven to be involved with them, they are designed specially for a reason, those monuments and obelisks you see, to enhance grid energy, to be sacrificial sites. Lady Diana Spencer was killed not far from the Eiffel tower, at the 13th pillar, almost 100 years to the day that Jack the Ripper killed his first victim, a virgin, right? Lady Diana represented the virgin, in occult terms. The whores that Jack the Ripper killed represented in esoteric terms “the willing victim” or a sacrificial victim. The 31st of january is when the sign of Virgo goes into the underworld, on that day, the virgin descends into the underworld, so they take out the virgin then.

They are not going to use solar astrology, because the average astrologer would get on to this. They use other kinds of astrology which are more esoteric, I go into this in my work. How geometry and sacred geometry is used in designs of cities, and how assassinations of JFK and other people are entirely based on this. And how American designs of cities are built like a silicon chip.

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32085a  No.10147928

File: c859433e031506b⋯.jpeg (908.46 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, qclock_sun_epstein_island.jpeg)

>>9378093

The star reminds me of the sun dial at Epstein Island. Recall there were 13 benches around it.

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fd7783  No.10148407

>>10137047

(Please read from the start)

Next I’m going to put the alternative origin theory of the Olmec. It’s going to be needed later on in this thread, but since I’m already talking about the Olmec, I thought it would be better to let anons get acquainted with it now.

Oh and please note the words written as in: “speculation”, “fringe theories”, “popular culture”, etc. This was a very fun to read. Watching how (((they))) make this a NON-interesting subject = “Nothing to see here folks! It’s all gibberish from some “fringe” people. Don’t mind them and keep on having a nice day looking somewhere else, not here”.

This is how you can “detect” the notable issues and where to dig. When you keep on seeing in a written piece so many “don’t look here, look there” insinuations; you will know you are on the right track of finding the truth. The way (((they))) insist, spin and twist thing, trying to divert your attention and convince you to go look elsewhere = That’s THE sign that there is something about the issue (((they))) don’t want you to find out about.

Try to enjoy while reading this anons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_alternative_origin_speculations

“Olmec alternative origin speculations are non-mainstream theories that have been suggested for the formation of Olmec civilization which contradict generally accepted scholarly consensus. These origin theories typically involve contact with Old World societies. Although these speculations have become somewhat well-known within popular culture, particularly the idea of an African connection to the Olmec, they are not regarded as credible by mainstream researchers of Mesoamerica and are considered fringe theories.

In excavations carried out for years in the Olmec sites and when scientifically studying various pieces of that civilization, university archaeologists have not found African artifacts; This is a first line of research that rules out the origin in that continent.

The second line contemplates DNA studies, which previously could not be done because there were no Olmec burials, “those that had been found were dusty, But we found some in San Lorenzo, Tenochtitlan,” explained Enrique Villamar Becerril, who conducted the mitochondrial DNA study.”

“Mainstream scientific consensus

The great majority of scholars who specialize in Mesoamerican history, archaeology and linguistics remain unconvinced by alternative origin speculations.[1] Many are more critical and regard the promotion of such unfounded theories as a form of ethnocentric racism at the expense of indigenous Americans.[2] The consensus view maintained across publications in peer-reviewed academic journals that are concerned with Mesoamerican and other pre-Columbian research is that the Olmec and their achievements arose from influences and traditions that were wholly indigenous to the region, or at least the New World, and there is no reliable material evidence to suggest otherwise.[3] They, and their neighbouring cultures with whom they had contact, developed their own characters which were founded entirely on a remarkably interlinked and ancient cultural and agricultural heritage that was locally shared, but arose independently of any extra-hemispheric influences.”

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fd7783  No.10148424

File: 5b48471a0de66e0⋯.jpg (216.15 KB, 615x1107, 5:9, La_Mojarra_Inscription_and….jpg)

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>>10148407

(Please read from the start)

“African origins

As of 2018, mitochondrial DNA study carried out on Olmec remains, one from San Lorenzo and the other from Loma del Zapote, resulted, in both cases, in the “unequivocal presence of the distinctive mutations of the “A” maternal lineage. That is, the origin of the Olmecs is not in Africa but in America, since they share the most abundant of the five mitochondrial haplogroups characteristic of the indigenous populations of our continent: A, B, C, D and X.”

“Some writers claim that the Olmecs were related to peoples of Africa - based primarily on their interpretation of facial features of Olmec statues. They additionally contend that epigraphical, genetic, and osteological evidence supports their claims.The idea was first suggested by José Melgar, who discovered the first colossal head at Hueyapan (now Tres Zapotes) in 1862 and subsequently published two papers that attributed this head to a "Negro race."[5] The view was espoused in the early 20th century by Leo Wiener and others.[6] Some modern proponents such as Ivan Van Sertima and Clyde Ahmad Winters have identified the Olmecs with the Mandé people of West Africa.”

>> What if both were correct? Remember the early graves in Ancient Egypt were from different Ethnicities? (Page 146) What if that was the case over here as well?

“Claims of epigraphic evidence

Some researchers claim that the Mesoamerican writing systems are related to African scripts. In the early 19th century, Constantine Samuel Rafinesque proposed that the Maya inscriptions were probably related to the Libyco-Berber writing of Africa.[7] Leo Wiener[8] and others claim that various Olmec and Epi-Olmec symbols are similar to those found in the Vai script (a relatively modern script in Liberia which may have Cherokee influence[9]), in particular, the symbols on the Tuxtla Statuette, Teo Mask,[citation needed] Cascajal Block, and the celts in Offering 4 at La Venta.”

>> Very interesting. Comparison should be made with what we’ve seen earlier in other civilizations.

“These assertions have found no support among Mesoamerican researchers. While mainstream scholars have made significant progress translating the Maya script, researchers have yet to translate Olmec glyphs”

“Genetic studies

Genetic and immunological studies over the past two decades have failed to yield evidence of precolumbian African contributions to the indigenous populations of the Americas.”

>> Of course they did.

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fd7783  No.10148435

File: f8f487c5ebeb04a⋯.jpg (142.93 KB, 800x813, 800:813, Olmec_Head_Museo_Nacional_….jpg)

>>10148424

(Please read from the start)

“Claims of osteological evidence

Andrzej Wiercinski claims that some of the Olmecs were of African origin.[13] He supports this claim with cranial evidence from two Mesoamerican sites: Tlatilco and Cerro de las Mesas. Tlatilco is a site in the Valley of Mexico. Although outside the Olmec heartland, Olmec influences appear in the architectural record. The crania were from the Pre-Classic period, contemporary with the Olmec. Cerro de las Mesa is within the Olmec heartland, although according to Wiercinski, "the series . . . is dated on the Classic period."[14] The Classic period is generally defined to start around AD 250, or 600 years after the end of the Olmec culture.

To determine the racial heritage of the skeletons, Wiercinski used classic diagnostic traits, determined by craniometric and cranioscopic methods, as well as the Polish Comparative-Morphological School skeletal reference collection. These measurements were then compared against three crania sets from Poland, Mongolia and Uganda to represent three racial categories which allowed Wiercinski to sort each skull into one or more racial categories.

Based on his comparisons, Wiercinski found that 14% of the skeletons from Tlatilco and 4.5% of the skeletons from Cerro de las Mesas had elements of "Black" racial composition.

In the last section of his paper, Wiercinski compared the physiognomy of the skeletons to corresponding examples of Olmec sculptures and bas-reliefs on the stelas. For example, Wiercinski states that the colossal Olmec heads represent the "Dongolan" type.[15] The empirical frequencies of the Dongolan type at Tlatilco calculated by Wiercinski was 0.231, more than twice as high as Wiercinski's theoretical figure of 0.101, for the presence of Dongolans at Tlatilco.

Wiercinski summarizes his research by offering the following "ethnogenetical hypotheses":[16]

• The indigenous rootstock of Tlatilco and Cerro de las Mesas consists of "Ainoid, Arctic, and Pacific racial elements".

• "A next migratory wave" brought in additional Pacific as well as "Laponoid" elements.

• "Some Chinese influence of Shang Period could penetrate Mesoamerica"

• "A strange transatlantic, more or less sporadic migration" brought Armenoid, Equatorial, and Bushmenoid elements”

>> Armenoid, like from Armenia and the Caucasus ? ^_^ Oh anons! This just put a huge smile on my face. I believe this research is rather correct and further down in this thread, anons will understand why. Do not forget the early grave in Ancient Egypt. (Page 146)

“Wiercinski's research methods and conclusions are not accepted by the vast majority of Mesoamerican scholars, in part because of his reliance on the Polish Comparative-Morphological methodology which limits the placement of skull types within a very narrow spectrum that is often within Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Native Americans are thus made to fit within these groups which often yields false and contradictory assumptions as a result of sample bias.”

>> Of course the results are not accepted. Maybe because there is something called the truth behind them.

“An interdisciplinary analysis of Native American skulls has shown that there is no real evidence, apart from superficial misjudgments and erroneous conclusions, that Native Americans have any link to an African presence in America before the European encounter.”

>> Anons, just take a look at the vocabulary used: “superficial misjudgments and erroneous conclusions”…..REALLY?!?! Says who? Name the scientist or the research institute so we can take a look at their backgrounds.

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fd7783  No.10148445

File: a1e76eb5c5c4741⋯.jpg (164.54 KB, 800x1067, 800:1067, Olmeken_Menschenkopf_head_….jpg)

>>10148435

(Please read from the start)

“Chinese origins

Some researchers have argued that the Olmec civilization came into existence with the help of Chinese refugees, particularly at the end of the Shang dynasty.[19] In 1975, Betty Meggers of the Smithsonian Institution argued that the Olmec civilization originated due to Shang Chinese influences around 1200 BC.[20] In a 1996 book, Mike Xu, with the aid of Chen Hanping, claimed that the very same La Venta celts discussed above actually bore Chinese characters.[21][22] These claims are unsupported by mainstream Mesoamerican researchers.[23] The evidence relied on by Mike Xu, including the coincidence of markings on Olmec pottery with those on Chinese oracle bone writings, the significance of jade in both cultures and the shared knowledge of the position of true North, was discussed in an article by Claire Liu in 1997.”

>> What if this is correct as well?

“Jaredite origins

In the Book of Mormon, a text regarded as scripture by churches and members of the Latter Day Saint movement, the Jaredites are described as a people who left the Old World in ancient times and founded a civilization in the Americas. Mainstream American History and Literature specialists[who?] place the literary setting for the Book of Mormon among the “Mound-builders” of North America. The work is therefore classified in the American “Mound-builder” genre of the 19th century.[25] LDS scholars and authors seek to demonstrate that events described in the Book of Mormon have a literal foundation. A popular Book of Mormon geography model places the scene of the Jaredite arrival and subsequent development, in lands around the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mesoamerica.[26] The tradition leading to this Central American model, however, does not clearly originate with the Book of Mormon (first published in 1830) but with enthusiastic interest in John Lloyd Stephens’ 1841 bestseller, Incidents of travel in Central America, Chiapas and Yucatan.[27] LDS founder Joseph Smith Jr. placed the arrival of the Jaredites in “the lake country of America” (region of Lake Ontario)[citation needed], allowing for the eventual migration of Book of Mormon peoples to Mexico and Central America.[28]

Some LDS scholars identify the Olmec civilization with the Jaredites, citing similarities and noting that the period in which the Olmecs flourished and later declined corresponds roughly with the Jaredite civilization timeline, although most disagree with this idea.”

>> I personally don’t trust anything of what is written by the Mormons. Sorry.

“Nordic origins

According to Michael Coe, explorer and cultural diffusionist Thor Heyerdahl claimed that at least some of the Olmec leadership had Nordic ancestry, a view at least partly inspired by the bearded figure, often referred to as "Uncle Sam",[29] carved into La Venta Stela 3, whose apparent aquiline nose has been cited as possible evidence for ancient visitors to the Americas from the Old World:

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fd7783  No.10148487

>>10147632

Thank you for sharing this information with us. It’s very interesting. Did you find out why the Blood is so important? I did. I found what’s in it but it’s a bit hard to get it sink in.

>>10147928

The US presidential seal has 13 stars right above the eagle representing the 13 bloodline families.

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32085a  No.10152832

>>10148487

No, I don't know why the blood is important. Can you direct me where to look? What did you find?

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35e4ad  No.10160017

>>10148445

(Please read from the start)

"The presence of Uncle Sam inspired Thor Heyerdahl, the Norwegian explorer and author of Kon Tiki, among others to claim a Nordic ancestry for at least some of the Olmec leadership… [However], it is extremely misleading to use the testimony of artistic representations to prove ethnic theories. The Olmec were American Indians, not Negroes (as Melgar had thought) or Nordic supermen.”

>> This MIGHT turn out to be true. It just MIGHT be like the rest. What if the Olmec were a mixture of ALL the above? (Apart the Mormons theory)

For further reading about the “African origin” of the Olmec, anons can read about Mr. Ian Van Sertima. Please do compare how he was “attacked” to how Professor Finkel’s work was “promoted”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Van_Sertima

“Ivan Gladstone Van Sertima (26 January 1935 – 25 May 2009) was a Guyanese-born associate professor of Africana Studies at Rutgers University in the United States.

He was best known for his Olmec alternative origin speculations, a brand of pre-Columbian contact theory, which he proposed in his book They Came Before Columbus (1976). While his Olmec theory has "spread widely in African American community, both lay and scholarly", it was mostly ignored in Mesoamericanist scholarship, and dismissed as Afrocentric pseudoarchaeology[2] and pseudohistory to the effect of "robbing native American cultures".

“He published his They Came Before Columbus in 1976, as a Rutgers graduate student. The book deals mostly with his arguments for an African origin of Mesoamerican culture in the Western Hemisphere.[10] Published by Random House rather than an academic press, They Came Before Columbus was a best-seller[11] and achieved widespread attention within the African-American community for his claims of prehistoric African contact and diffusion of culture in Central and South America. It was generally "ignored or dismissed" by academic experts at the time and strongly criticised in detail in an academic journal, Current Anthropology, in 1997.”

>> See how (((they))) treat the ones whom don’t fall in line?

“On 7 July 1987, Van Sertima testified before a United States Congressional committee to oppose recognition of the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's "discovery" of the Americas. He said, "You cannot really conceive of how insulting it is to Native Americans … to be told they were 'discovered'”

>> I half way agree with Mr, Van Sertima because he was half correct in his theory (my opinion). And we shouldn’t go to extremes about Columbus because for the time of Columbus, he did “discover” something they ignored. We cannot judge “yesterday’s” knowledge with the one we have today. Each day we learn new things and evolve in more than one way, including our understanding of things. It’s a process that an individual goes through with time but it’s also a LONG process civilizations and humanity in general also evolves in slowly. As an example : Look where we were before Qteam showed up and look where we are now.

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35e4ad  No.10160034

>>10160017

(Please read from the start)

“Van Sertima's work on Olmec civilization has been criticised by Mesoamerican academics,[15] who describe his claims to be ill-founded and false. Van Sertima's Journal of African Civilizations was not considered for inclusion in Journals of the Century.[16] In 1997 academics in a Journal of Current Anthropology article criticised in detail many elements of They Came Before Columbus (1976).[5] Except for a brief mention, the book had not previously been reviewed in an academic journal. The researchers wrote a systematic rebuttal of Van Sertima's claims, stating that Van Sertima's "proposal was without foundation" in claiming African diffusion as responsible for prehistoric Olmec culture (in present-day Mexico). They noted that no "genuine African artifact had been found in a controlled archaeological excavation in the New World." They noted that Olmec stone heads were carved hundreds of years prior to the claimed contact and only superficially appear to be African; the Nubians whom Van Sertima had claimed as their originators do not resemble these "portraits".[5] They further noted that in the 1980s, Van Sertima had changed his timeline of African influence, suggesting that Africans made their way to the New World in the 10th century B.C., to account for more recent independent scholarship in the dating of Olmec culture.[5]

They further called "fallacious" his claims that Africans had diffused the practices of pyramid building and mummification, and noted the independent rise of these in the Americas. Additionally, they wrote that Van Sertima "diminishe[d] the real achievements of Native American culture" by his claims of African origin for them.

Van Sertima wrote a response to be included in the article (as is standard academic practice) but withdrew it. The journal required that reprints must include the entire article and would have had to include the original authors' response (written but not published) to his response.[5] Instead, Van Sertima replied to his critics in "his" journal volume published as Early America Revisited (1998).

In a New York Times 1977 review of Van Sertima's 1976 book They Came Before Columbus, the archaeologist Glyn Daniel labelled Van Sertima's work as "ignorant rubbish", and concluded that the works of Van Sertima, and Barry Fell, whom he was also reviewing, "give us badly argued theories based on fantasies". In response to Daniel's review Clarence Weiant, who had worked as an assistant archaeologist specialising in ceramics at Tres Zapotes and later pursued a career as a chiropractor, wrote a letter to the New York Times supporting Van Sertima's work. Weiant wrote: "Van Sertima's work is a summary of six or seven years of meticulous research based upon archaeology, egyptology, African history, oceanography, astronomy, botany, rare Arabic and Chinese manuscripts, the letters and journals of early American explorers, and the observations of physical anthropologists…. As one who has been immersed in Mexican archaeology for some forty years, and who participated in the excavation of the first giant heads, I must confess, I am thoroughly convinced of the soundness of Van Sertima's conclusions."

In 1981 Dean R. Snow, a professor of anthropology, wrote that Van Sertima "uses the now familiar technique of stringing together bits of carefully selected evidence, each surgically removed from the context that would give it a rational explanation". Snow continued, "The findings of professional archaeologists and physical anthropologists are misrepresented so that they seem to support the [Van Sertima] hypothesis".

In 1981, They Came Before Columbus received the "Clarence L. Holte Literary Prize".[21] Sertima was inducted into the "Rutgers African-American Alumni Hall of Fame" in 2004.”

>> Mr Van Sertima was half way right in claiming an African “connection” to the Olmec. If he had pushed further, he would have probably found something amazing.

I know I didn’t find any Flood myths/stories in the Olmec civilization but the “other origin of the Olmecs”, will be useful for us later on in this thread. I’m not doing all of this for nothing anons. With this, I conclude the findings about the Olmec.

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35e4ad  No.10160365

>>10152832

Well, I don’t know where to direct you anon. It is not written in one place, all in one go. It’s something I’ve been gathering for some time. I have it all in my head and I’m trying to put it in here in an organized way, as much as I possibly can. I’m working on daily basis on it. It’s interlinked with other subjects. I’ve already put some pieces of it in this thread, like when I talked about the Armenian Genocide, the movie called the Fifth element with Leeloo and the tattooed oracle/priestess statuette page 131 – maybe even the Jackal in the Dogon culture. What all of these have in common is what is in their blood or should I say the power within their blood.

In their sacrificial rituals, isn’t that what the bloodlines try to have = the power within the blood? It’s not just the power of the blood, it’s more like the power within the blood. I’m going to eventually talk about it in this thread when I reach that point but unfortunately it’s going to take me some time to get there as I need to gather and display all the evidence and pieces of the puzzle first. I cannot just come out and say: “hey! I think I figured out what is so important about the blood”.

It’s been a few months that I fully understand why Qteam took the approach they did about the awakening and dripping things to the public; they simply couldn’t come out and say it all in one go. It’s frustrating but I kinda understand them better now and unfortunately I will have to do the same. And when I reach there, it will be up to the persons reading this thread to verify what I’m saying and to make up their own mind. I’m no Einstein; I’m just TRYING to unravel this mystery, just like the rest of the anons. I don’t know if I will be successful or not. What you believe and think about it will be up to you. Personally I’m convinced I’m on the right track because of personal “experience” and witnessing some stuff. I’ve always been like St Thomas: I need to put my hand on it and see it with my own eyes to believe it. So there is personal conviction from my part because of what I witnessed.

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32085a  No.10165815

>>10160365

Yes, I understand. My apologies It didn't realize it was you responding to me originally, Thomas Anon. I really appreciate you walking us through this thought process of yours. I know it comes with a lifetime of professional experience, inquiry and knowledge. It is a true joy to take this journey with a diligent scholar such as yourself, whose thoroughness and attention to detail make me remember what I used to love about studying with some of my great professors.

I thought another anon was responding and was referring to something specific, like a chemical make-up of the blood.

Yes, I understand there is something peculiar about the blood and bloodlines and a reason to keep it as pure as possible.

Please carry on and take as much time as you need to get there. I have learned a lot following along and, I too, am putting pieces together as you go.

I have followed you since your first Bridges thread and have learned a lot along the way. I mostly lurk, but have come to appreciate the way your mind works in putting some of these pieces together.

Thank you for putting this together and walking through it with us.You've been a great teacher by showing how to use mainstream information and applying discernment to gather information quickly. I've learned a lot about researching from you.

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32085a  No.10166584

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>>9883828

>>> “dark area of the night sky around which the stars appear to revolve was the physical gateway into the heavens”: this is the reason why a lot of people in the alternative history believe what we see on Narmer’s palette is exactly this = a wormhole that can take us from one point from space to another. And it’s because of this reason that the palettes are thought to be star maps.

In the Ravne Tunnels under the valley of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun, there are several ceramic megaliths with an old runic writing on it. One has been translated as:

"the Gateway is closed, we are at a standstill. We will have to act as warriors to defend and conquer until we can move again through the stargate."

http://booksbydrsam.com/books/pyramids-around-the-world-2014.pdf

https://youtu.be/dBjOhKfBYXA

Organic material have dated the tunnels at +/-30,000 years ago. The tunnels were filled in by another civilization about 4,500 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims

What's interesting about the Bosnian pyramids, is that not only establishment gatekeepers have dismissed it, but also preeminent "alternative" researchers, such as Robert Schoch and Graham Hancock (which leads me to believe they are disinformation psyops to steer researchers away from too much truth). I went to visit for myself. I have been to mines in the southwest US. They are very different from the Ravne tunnels. I did not feel claustrophobic, even at 1.5km from the entrance, could breathe easily (even sing!) and even had a short term healing for a minor problem.

There is a ton of interdisciplinary research being done there and researchers of all disciplines are welcome.

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32085a  No.10166614

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>>9883828

>>> “dark area of the night sky around which the stars appear to revolve was the physical gateway into the heavens”: this is the reason why a lot of people in the alternative history believe what we see on Narmer’s palette is exactly this = a wormhole that can take us from one point from space to another. And it’s because of this reason that the palettes are thought to be star maps.

In the Ravne Tunnels under the valley of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun, there are several ceramic megaliths with an old runic writing on it. One has been translated as:

"the Gateway is closed, we are at a standstill. We will have to act as warriors to defend and conquer until we can move again through the stargate."

http://booksbydrsam.com/books/pyramids-around-the-world-2014.pdf

https://youtu.be/dBjOhKfBYXA

Organic material have dated the tunnels at +/-30,000 years ago. The tunnels were filled in by another civilization about 4,500 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims

What's interesting about the Bosnian pyramids, is that not only establishment gatekeepers have dismissed it, but also preeminent "alternative" researchers, such as Robert Schoch and Graham Hancock (which leads me to believe they are disinformation psyops to steer researchers away from too much truth). I went to visit for myself. I have been to mines in the southwest US. They are very different from the Ravne tunnels. I did not feel claustrophobic, even at 1.5km from the entrance, could breathe easily (even sing!) and even had a short term healing for a minor problem.

There is a ton of interdisciplinary research being done there and researchers of all disciplines are welcome.

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331522  No.10169343

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>>10160034

(Please read from the start)

My next stop is the Mayans. Since I’m not familiar with the civilization, a quick look is in order to get acquainted with it, as well checking out the Flood myths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization

“The Maya civilization (/ˈmaɪə/) was a Mesoamerican civilization developed by the Maya peoples, and noted for its logosyllabic script—the most sophisticated and highly developed writing system in pre-Columbian Americas—as well as for its art, architecture, mathematics, calendar, and astronomical system. The Maya civilization developed in an area that encompasses southeastern Mexico, all of Guatemala and Belize, and the western portions of Honduras and El Salvador. This region consists of the northern lowlands encompassing the Yucatán Peninsula, and the highlands of the Sierra Madre, running from the Mexican state of Chiapas, across southern Guatemala and onwards into El Salvador, and the southern lowlands of the Pacific littoral plain. The overarching term "Maya" is a modern collective term that refers to the peoples of the region, however, the term was not used by the indigenous populations themselves since there never was a common sense of identity or political unity among the distinct populations.

The Archaic period, prior to 2000 BC, saw the first developments in agriculture and the earliest villages. The Preclassic period (c. 2000 BC to 250 AD) saw the establishment of the first complex societies in the Maya region, and the cultivation of the staple crops of the Maya diet, including maize, beans, squashes, and chili peppers. The first Maya cities developed around 750 BC, and by 500 BC these cities possessed monumental architecture, including large temples with elaborate stucco façades. Hieroglyphic writing was being used in the Maya region by the 3rd century BC. In the Late Preclassic a number of large cities developed in the Petén Basin, and the city of Kaminaljuyu rose to prominence in the Guatemalan Highlands. Beginning around 250 AD, the Classic period is largely defined as when the Maya were raising sculpted monuments with Long Count dates. This period saw the Maya civilization develop many city-states linked by a complex trade network. In the Maya Lowlands two great rivals, the cities of Tikal and Calakmul, became powerful. The Classic period also saw the intrusive intervention of the central Mexican city of Teotihuacan in Maya dynastic politics. In the 9th century, there was a widespread political collapse in the central Maya region, resulting in internecine warfare, the abandonment of cities, and a northward shift of population. The Postclassic period saw the rise of Chichen Itza in the north, and the expansion of the aggressive Kʼicheʼ kingdom in the Guatemalan Highlands. In the 16th century, the Spanish Empire colonised the Mesoamerican region, and a lengthy series of campaigns saw the fall of Nojpetén, the last Maya city, in 1697.

Classic period rule was centered on the concept of the "divine king", who acted as a mediator between mortals and the supernatural realm. Kingship was patrilineal, and power would normally pass to the eldest son. A prospective king was also expected to be a successful war leader. Maya politics was dominated by a closed system of patronage, although the exact political make-up of a kingdom varied from city-state to city-state. By the Late Classic, the aristocracy had greatly increased, resulting in the corresponding reduction in the exclusive power of the divine king. The Maya civilization developed highly sophisticated artforms, and the Maya created art using both perishable and non-perishable materials, including wood, jade, obsidian, ceramics, sculpted stone monuments, stucco, and finely painted murals.”

“The principal architecture of the city consisted of palaces, pyramid-temples, ceremonial ballcourts, and structures aligned for astronomical observation. The Maya elite were literate, and developed a complex system of hieroglyphic writing that was the most advanced in the pre-Columbian Americas. The Maya recorded their history and ritual knowledge in screenfold books, of which only three uncontested examples remain, the rest having been destroyed by the Spanish. There are also a great many examples of Maya text found on stelae and ceramics. The Maya developed a highly complex series of interlocking ritual calendars, and employed mathematics that included one of the earliest instances of the explicit zero in the world. As a part of their religion, the Maya practiced human sacrifice.”

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331522  No.10169353

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>>10169343

(Please read from the start)

“Investigation of Maya civilization

In 1839, American traveller and writer John Lloyd Stephens set out to visit a number of Maya sites with English architect and draftsman Frederick Catherwood.[104] Their illustrated accounts of the ruins sparked strong popular interest, and brought the Maya to the attention of the world.[102] The later 19th century saw the recording and recovery of ethnohistoric accounts of the Maya, and the first steps in deciphering Maya hieroglyphs.

The final two decades of the 19th century saw the birth of modern scientific archaeology in the Maya region, with the meticulous work of Alfred Maudslay and Teoberto Maler.[106] By the early 20th century, the Peabody Museum was sponsoring excavations at Copán and in the Yucatán Peninsula.”

>> Notable: similar to Mesopotamia, Egypt and the Olmec, the “discoveries” about the Mayans started around mid XIXth century.

“Politics

Unlike the Aztecs and the Inca, the Maya political system never integrated the entire Maya cultural area into a single state or empire. Rather, throughout its history, the Maya area contained a varying mix of political complexity that included both states and chiefdoms. These polities fluctuated greatly in their relationships with each other and were engaged in a complex web of rivalries, periods of dominance or submission, vassalage, and alliances. At times, different polities achieved regional dominance, such as Calakmul, Caracol, Mayapan, and Tikal. The first reliably evidenced polities formed in the Maya lowlands in the 9th century BC.[117] During the Late Preclassic, the Maya political system coalesced into a theopolitical form, where elite ideology justified the ruler's authority, and was reinforced by public display, ritual, and religion.[118] The divine king was the center of political power, exercising ultimate control over the administrative, economic, judicial, and military functions of the polity. The divine authority invested within the ruler was such that the king was able to mobilize both the aristocracy and commoners in executing huge infrastructure projects, apparently with no police force or standing army.[119] Some polities engaged in a strategy of increasing administration, and filling administrative posts with loyal supporters rather than blood relatives.[120] Within a polity, mid-ranking population centers would have played a key role in managing resources and internal conflict.

>> This concept of priest king is very interesting isn’t it anons? Hm! I wonder where I’ve seen it before? Anons wanna start comparing with their notes?

“The Maya political landscape was highly complex and Maya elites engaged in political intrigue to gain economic and social advantage over neighbors.[122] In the Late Classic, some cities established a long period of dominance over other large cities, such as the dominance of Caracol over Naranjo for half a century. In other cases, loose alliance networks were formed around a dominant city.[123] Border settlements, usually located about halfway between neighboring capitals, often switched allegiance over the course of their history, and at times acted independently.[124] Dominant capitals exacted tribute in the form of luxury items from subjugated population centers.[125] Political power was reinforced by military power, and the capture and humiliation of enemy warriors played an important part in elite culture. An overriding sense of pride and honor among the warrior aristocracy could lead to extended feuds and vendettas, which caused political instability and the fragmentation of polities.”

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331522  No.10169382

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>>10169353

(Please read from the start)

“Society

From the Early Preclassic, Maya society was sharply divided between the elite and commoners. As population increased over time, various sectors of society became increasingly specialised, and political organization became increasingly complex.[127] By the Late Classic, when populations had grown enormously and hundreds of cities were connected in a complex web of political hierarchies, the wealthy segment of society multiplied.[128] A middle class may have developed that included artisans, low ranking priests and officials, merchants, and soldiers. Commoners included farmers, servants, labourers, and slaves.[129] According to indigenous histories, land was held communally by noble houses or clans. Such clans held that the land was the property of the clan ancestors, and such ties between the land and the ancestors were reinforced by the burial of the dead within residential compounds.”

>> I found this concept of clans very interesting, mostly if we compare it to other cultures from all over the world, like the Chinese, the Scottish and yes, even the Armenians. I’ve explained this before: the IAN placed at the end of the Armenian family name refers to the clan. I’m going to use once more Kim Kardashian as an example. The word Kardash ,means “brother” in Turkish (the Armenians of Cilicia were under Ottoman rule back then, thus the origin of the name) and when the IAN is added to the end, it can be translated to “Clan of the brotherhood”. Another example I can give is by taking an American name and turn it into an Armenian by adding the IAN; like Gina Haspel, will become Gina Haspel-ian, meaning Gina of the Haspel clan.

“King and court

Classic Maya rule was centred in a royal culture that was displayed in all areas of Classic Maya art. The king was the supreme ruler and held a semi-divine status that made him the mediator between the mortal realm and that of the gods. From very early times, kings were specifically identified with the young maize god, whose gift of maize was the basis of Mesoamerican civilization. Maya royal succession was patrilineal, and royal power only passed to queens when doing otherwise would result in the extinction of the dynasty. Typically, power was passed to the eldest son. A young prince was called a chʼok ("youth"), although this word later came to refer to nobility in general. The royal heir was called bʼaah chʼok ("head youth"). Various points in the young prince's childhood were marked by ritual; the most important was a bloodletting ceremony at age five or six years. Although being of the royal bloodline was of utmost importance, the heir also had to be a successful war leader, as demonstrated by taking of captives. The enthronement of a new king was a highly elaborate ceremony, involving a series of separate acts that included enthronement upon a jaguar-skin cushion, human sacrifice, and receiving the symbols of royal power, such as a headband bearing a jade representation of the so-called "jester god", an elaborate headdress adorned with quetzal feathers, and a scepter representing the god Kʼawiil.

Maya political administration, based around the royal court, was not bureaucratic in nature. Government was hierarchical, and official posts were sponsored by higher-ranking members of the aristocracy; officials tended to be promoted to higher levels of office during the course of their lives. Officials are referred to as being "owned" by their sponsor, and this relationship continued even after the death of the sponsor.

>> Now I find this funny = just like Soros is sponsoring many politicians all over the globe. Didn’t Waleed bin Talal do the same by sponsoring Obama?

The concept of King-Priest shows in the Mayan culture. Amazing isn’t it anon, how we found it in most of the civilizations we’ve visited so far?

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331522  No.10169397

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>>10169382

(Please read from the start)

“Society

From the Early Preclassic, Maya society was sharply divided between the elite and commoners. As population increased over time, various sectors of society became increasingly specialised, and political organization became increasingly complex.[127] By the Late Classic, when populations had grown enormously and hundreds of cities were connected in a complex web of political hierarchies, the wealthy segment of society multiplied.[128] A middle class may have developed that included artisans, low ranking priests and officials, merchants, and soldiers. Commoners included farmers, servants, labourers, and slaves.[129] According to indigenous histories, land was held communally by noble houses or clans. Such clans held that the land was the property of the clan ancestors, and such ties between the land and the ancestors were reinforced by the burial of the dead within residential compounds.”

>> I found this concept of clans very interesting, mostly if we compare it to other cultures from all over the world, like the Chinese, the Scottish and yes, even the Armenians. I’ve explained this before: the IAN placed at the end of the Armenian family name refers to the clan. I’m going to use once more Kim Kardashian as an example. The word Kardash ,means “brother” in Turkish (the Armenians of Cilicia were under Ottoman rule back then, thus the origin of the name) and when the IAN is added to the end, it can be translated to “Clan of the brotherhood”. Another example I can give is by taking an American name and turn it into an Armenian by adding the IAN; like Gina Haspel, will become Gina Haspel-ian, meaning Gina of the Haspel clan.

“King and court

Classic Maya rule was centred in a royal culture that was displayed in all areas of Classic Maya art. The king was the supreme ruler and held a semi-divine status that made him the mediator between the mortal realm and that of the gods. From very early times, kings were specifically identified with the young maize god, whose gift of maize was the basis of Mesoamerican civilization. Maya royal succession was patrilineal, and royal power only passed to queens when doing otherwise would result in the extinction of the dynasty. Typically, power was passed to the eldest son. A young prince was called a chʼok ("youth"), although this word later came to refer to nobility in general. The royal heir was called bʼaah chʼok ("head youth"). Various points in the young prince's childhood were marked by ritual; the most important was a bloodletting ceremony at age five or six years. Although being of the royal bloodline was of utmost importance, the heir also had to be a successful war leader, as demonstrated by taking of captives. The enthronement of a new king was a highly elaborate ceremony, involving a series of separate acts that included enthronement upon a jaguar-skin cushion, human sacrifice, and receiving the symbols of royal power, such as a headband bearing a jade representation of the so-called "jester god", an elaborate headdress adorned with quetzal feathers, and a scepter representing the god Kʼawiil.

Maya political administration, based around the royal court, was not bureaucratic in nature. Government was hierarchical, and official posts were sponsored by higher-ranking members of the aristocracy; officials tended to be promoted to higher levels of office during the course of their lives. Officials are referred to as being "owned" by their sponsor, and this relationship continued even after the death of the sponsor.

>> Now I find this funny = just like Soros is sponsoring many politicians all over the globe. Didn’t Waleed bin Talal do the same by sponsoring Obama?

The concept of King-Priest shows in the Mayan culture. Amazing isn’t it anon, how we found it in most of the civilizations we’ve visited so far?

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331522  No.10169413

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>>10169397

(Please read from the start)

“Society

From the Early Preclassic, Maya society was sharply divided between the elite and commoners. As population increased over time, various sectors of society became increasingly specialised, and political organization became increasingly complex.[127] By the Late Classic, when populations had grown enormously and hundreds of cities were connected in a complex web of political hierarchies, the wealthy segment of society multiplied.[128] A middle class may have developed that included artisans, low ranking priests and officials, merchants, and soldiers. Commoners included farmers, servants, labourers, and slaves.[129] According to indigenous histories, land was held communally by noble houses or clans. Such clans held that the land was the property of the clan ancestors, and such ties between the land and the ancestors were reinforced by the burial of the dead within residential compounds.”

>> I found this concept of clans very interesting, mostly if we compare it to other cultures from all over the world, like the Chinese, the Scottish and yes, even the Armenians. I’ve explained this before: the IAN placed at the end of the Armenian family name refers to the clan. I’m going to use once more Kim Kardashian as an example. The word Kardash ,means “brother” in Turkish (the Armenians of Cilicia were under Ottoman rule back then, thus the origin of the name) and when the IAN is added to the end, it can be translated to “Clan of the brotherhood”. Another example I can give is by taking an American name and turn it into an Armenian by adding the IAN; like Gina Haspel, will become Gina Haspel-ian, meaning Gina of the Haspel clan.

“King and court

Classic Maya rule was centred in a royal culture that was displayed in all areas of Classic Maya art. The king was the supreme ruler and held a semi-divine status that made him the mediator between the mortal realm and that of the gods. From very early times, kings were specifically identified with the young maize god, whose gift of maize was the basis of Mesoamerican civilization. Maya royal succession was patrilineal, and royal power only passed to queens when doing otherwise would result in the extinction of the dynasty. Typically, power was passed to the eldest son. A young prince was called a chʼok ("youth"), although this word later came to refer to nobility in general. The royal heir was called bʼaah chʼok ("head youth"). Various points in the young prince's childhood were marked by ritual; the most important was a bloodletting ceremony at age five or six years. Although being of the royal bloodline was of utmost importance, the heir also had to be a successful war leader, as demonstrated by taking of captives. The enthronement of a new king was a highly elaborate ceremony, involving a series of separate acts that included enthronement upon a jaguar-skin cushion, human sacrifice, and receiving the symbols of royal power, such as a headband bearing a jade representation of the so-called "jester god", an elaborate headdress adorned with quetzal feathers, and a scepter representing the god Kʼawiil.

Maya political administration, based around the royal court, was not bureaucratic in nature. Government was hierarchical, and official posts were sponsored by higher-ranking members of the aristocracy; officials tended to be promoted to higher levels of office during the course of their lives. Officials are referred to as being "owned" by their sponsor, and this relationship continued even after the death of the sponsor.

>> Now I find this funny = just like Soros is sponsoring many politicians all over the globe. Didn’t Waleed bin Talal do the same by sponsoring Obama?

The concept of King-Priest shows in the Mayan culture. Amazing isn’t it anon, how we found it in most of the civilizations we’ve visited so far?

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331522  No.10169422

>>10169413

Applogizes anon, wrong post. The old man is tired today.

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331522  No.10169489

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>>10169382

(Please read from the start)

“Pyramids and temples

Temples were sometimes referred to in hieroglyphic texts as kʼuh nah, meaning "god's house". Temples were raised on platforms, most often upon a pyramid. The earliest temples were probably thatched huts built upon low platforms. By the Late Preclassic period, their walls were of stone, and the development of the corbel arch allowed stone roofs to replace thatch. By the Classic period, temple roofs were being topped with roof combs that extended the height of the temple and served as a foundation for monumental art. The temple shrines contained between one and three rooms, and were dedicated to important deities. Such a deity might be one of the patron gods of the city, or a deified ancestor.[242] In general, freestanding pyramids were shrines honouring powerful ancestors.”

“E-Groups and observatories

The Maya were keen observers of the sun, stars, and planets.[244] E-Groups were a particular arrangement of temples that were relatively common in the Maya region;[245] they take their names from Group E at Uaxactun.[246] They consisted of three small structures facing a fourth structure, and were used to mark the solstices and equinoxes. The earliest examples date to the Preclassic period.[245] The Lost World complex at Tikal started out as an E-Group built towards the end of the Middle Preclassic.[247] Due to its nature, the basic layout of an E-Group was constant. A structure was built on the west side of a plaza; it was usually a radial pyramid with stairways facing the cardinal directions. It faced east across the plaza to three small temples on the far side. From the west pyramid, the sun was seen to rise over these temples on the solstices and equinoxes.[244] E-Groups were raised across the central and southern Maya area for over a millennium; not all were properly aligned as observatories, and their function may have been symbolic.

As well as E-Groups, the Maya built other structures dedicated to observing the movements of celestial bodies.[244] Many Maya buildings were aligned with astronomical bodies, including the planet Venus, and various constellations.[245] The Caracol structure at Chichen Itza was a circular multi-level edifice, with a conical superstructure. It has slit windows that marked the movements of Venus. At Copán, a pair of stelae were raised to mark the position of the setting sun at the equinoxes.”

“Triadic pyramids

Triadic pyramids first appeared in the Preclassic. They consisted of a dominant structure flanked by two smaller inward-facing buildings, all mounted upon a single basal platform. The largest known triadic pyramid was built at El Mirador in the Petén Basin; it covers an area six times as large as that covered by Temple IV, the largest pyramid at Tikal.[249] The three superstructures all have stairways leading up from the central plaza on top of the basal platform.[250] No securely established forerunners of Triadic Groups are known, but they may have developed from the eastern range building of E-Group complexes.[251] The triadic form was the predominant architectural form in the Petén region during the Late Preclassic.[252] Examples of triadic pyramids are known from as many as 88 archaeological sites.[253] At Nakbe, there are at least a dozen examples of triadic complexes and the four largest structures in the city are triadic in nature.[254] At El Mirador there are probably as many as 36 triadic structures.[255] Examples of the triadic form are even known from Dzibilchaltun in the far north of the Yucatán Peninsula, and Qʼumarkaj in the Highlands of Guatemala.[256] The triadic pyramid remained a popular architectural form for centuries after the first examples were built;[251] it continued in use into the Classic Period, with later examples being found at Uaxactun, Caracol, Seibal, Nakum, Tikal and Palenque.[257] The Qʼumarkaj example is the only one that has been dated to the Postclassic Period.[258] The triple-temple form of the triadic pyramid appears to be related to Maya mythology.”

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331522  No.10169494

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>>10169489

(Please read from the start)

“Language

Before 2000 BC, the Maya spoke a single language, dubbed proto-Mayan by linguists. […]These groups diverged further during the pre-Columbian era to form over 30 languages that have survived into modern times. […] The language of almost all Classic Maya texts over the entire Maya area has been identified as Chʼolan;[278] Late Preclassic text from Kaminaljuyu, in the highlands, also appears to be in, or related to, Chʼolan. […] Classic Chʼolan may have been the prestige language of the Classic Maya elite, used in inter-polity communication such as diplomacy and trade.[281] By the Postclassic period, Yucatec was also being written in Maya codices alongside Chʼolan.”

“Writing and literacy

The Maya writing system is one of the outstanding achievements of the pre-Columbian inhabitants of the Americas.[284] It was the most sophisticated and highly developed writing system of more than a dozen systems that developed in Mesoamerica.[285] The earliest inscriptions in an identifiably Maya script date back to 300–200 BC, in the Petén Basin.[286] However, this is preceded by several other Mesoamerican writing systems, such as the Epi-Olmec and Zapotec scripts. Early Maya script had appeared on the Pacific coast of Guatemala by the late 1st century AD, or early 2nd century.[287] Similarities between the Isthmian script and Early Maya script of the Pacific coast suggest that the two systems developed in tandem.[288] By about AD 250, the Maya script had become a more formalised and consistent writing system.

The Catholic Church and colonial officials, notably Bishop Diego de Landa, destroyed Maya texts wherever they found them, and with them the knowledge of Maya writing, but by chance three uncontested pre-Columbian books dated to the Postclassic period have been preserved. These are known as the Madrid Codex, the Dresden Codex and the Paris Codex.[290] A few pages survive from a fourth, the Grolier Codex, whose authenticity is disputed.

Most surviving pre-Columbian Maya writing dates to the Classic period and is contained in stone inscriptions from Maya sites, such as stelae, or on ceramics vessels. Other media include the aforementioned codices, stucco façades, frescoes, wooden lintels, cave walls, and portable artefacts crafted from a variety of materials, including bone, shell, obsidian, and jade.”

“Writing system

The Maya writing system (often called hieroglyphs from a superficial resemblance to Ancient Egyptian writing)[293] is a logosyllabic writing system, combining a syllabary of phonetic signs representing syllables with logogram representing entire words.[292][294] Among the writing systems of the Pre-Columbian New World, Maya script most closely represents the spoken language.[295] At any one time, no more than around 500 glyphs were in use, some 200 of which (including variations) were phonetic.”

>> So they combined the phonetic syllables with pictogram writing. It’s a mixture of 2 methods of writing. Compare with what we know of Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt, please.

“The Maya script was in use up to the arrival of the Europeans, its use peaking during the Classic Period.[296] In excess of 10,000 individual texts have been recovered, mostly inscribed on stone monuments, lintels, stelae and ceramics. […]The skill and knowledge of Maya writing persisted among segments of the population right up to the Spanish conquest. The knowledge was subsequently lost, as a result of the impact of the conquest on Maya society.”

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331522  No.10169502

File: caede900f7c8b94⋯.jpg (23.25 KB, 400x200, 2:1, mayan_numerals.jpg)

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>>10169494

(Please read from the start)

“The decipherment and recovery of the knowledge of Maya writing has been a long and laborious process.[300] Some elements were first deciphered in the late 19th and early 20th century, mostly the parts having to do with numbers, the Maya calendar, and astronomy.[301] Major breakthroughs were made from the 1950s to 1970s, and accelerated rapidly thereafter.[302] By the end of the 20th century, scholars were able to read the majority of Maya texts, and ongoing work continues to further illuminate the content.”

“Logosyllabic script

The basic unit of Maya logosyllabic text is the glyph block, which transcribes a word or phrase. The block is composed of one or more individual glyphs attached to each other to form the glyph block, with individual glyph blocks generally being separated by a space. Glyph blocks are usually arranged in a grid pattern. For ease of reference, epigraphers refer to glyph blocks from left to right alphabetically, and top to bottom numerically. Thus, any glyph block in a piece of text can be identified.”

“Mathematics

In common with the other Mesoamerican civilizations, the Maya used a base 20 (vigesimal) system.[313] The bar-and-dot counting system that is the base of Maya numerals was in use in Mesoamerica by 1000 BC;[314] the Maya adopted it by the Late Preclassic, and added the symbol for zero.[315] This may have been the earliest known occurrence of the idea of an explicit zero worldwide,[316] although it may have been predated by the Babylonian system.[317] The earliest explicit use of zero occurred on monuments dated to 357 AD.[318] In its earliest uses, the zero served as a place holder, indicating an absence of a particular calendrical count. This later developed into a numeral that was used to perform calculation,[319] and was used in hieroglyphic texts for more than a thousand years, until the writing system was extinguished by the Spanish.

The basic number system consists of a dot to represent one, and a bar to represent five.[321] By the Postclassic period a shell symbol represented zero; during the Classic period other glyphs were used.[322] The Maya numerals from 0 to 19 used repetitions of these symbols.”

“Calendar

The Maya calendrical system, in common with other Mesoamerican calendars, had its origins in the Preclassic period. However, it was the Maya that developed the calendar to its maximum sophistication, recording lunar and solar cycles, eclipses and movements of planets with great accuracy. In some cases, the Maya calculations were more accurate than equivalent calculations in the Old World; for example, the Maya solar year was calculated to greater accuracy than the Julian year. The Maya calendar was intrinsically tied to Maya ritual, and it was central to Maya religious practices.[324] The calendar combined a non-repeating Long Count with three interlocking cycles, each measuring a progressively larger period. These were the 260-day tzolkʼin,[325] the 365-day haabʼ,[326] and the 52-year Calendar Round, resulting from the combination of the tzolkʼin with the haab'.[327] There were also additional calendric cycles, such as an 819-day cycle associated with the four quadrants of Maya cosmology, governed by four different aspects of the god Kʼawiil.”

“The 365-day haab was produced by a cycle of eighteen named 20-day winals, completed by the addition of a 5-day period called the wayeb.[330] The wayeb was considered to be a dangerous time, when the barriers between the mortal and supernatural realms were broken, allowing malignant deities to cross over and interfere in human concerns.”

“As with any non-repeating calendar, the Maya measured time from a fixed start point. The Maya set the beginning of their calendar as the end of a previous cycle of bakʼtuns, equivalent to a day in 3114 BC. This was believed by the Maya to be the day of the creation of the world in its current form.”

>> HIGHLY IMPORTANT. Remember the date, it will be needed later on.

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331522  No.10169598

>>10165815

This is the old man,

Thank you for your kind words anon. I hope you will enjoy reading.

As you can see what I'm tackling is huge and I'm sure I'm missing some points. There are a lot of digging tunnels to go and they are intertwined with others. It's like a HUGE spider web. I had to cut corners as much as I can so I can to stay in the main pipe and not get lost in the tunnels. What I'm working on is like the skeleton and it will up to the anons reading this to build the rest of the body. There is a lot of work to be done and one person cannot do it alone in a short amount of time.

Thank you for the information you are sharing. I didn't know about the Bosnian pyramid, so it was interesting. I'm taking notes ^_^

I've also been suspecting the people in the alternative history recently because of their behavior. Well, I guess we can only rely on ourselves and each one of us do his/her own research and verify things.

God bless you.

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bcfde4  No.10178713

>>10169502

(Please read from start)

“Astronomy

The Maya made meticulous observations of celestial bodies, patiently recording astronomical data on the movements of the sun, moon, Venus, and the stars. This information was used for divination, so Maya astronomy was essentially for astrological purposes. Maya astronomy did not serve to study the universe for scientific reasons, nor was it used to measure the seasons in order to calculate crop planting. It was rather used by the priesthood to comprehend past cycles of time, and project them into the future to produce prophecy. The priesthood refined observations and recorded eclipses of the sun and moon, and movements of Venus and the stars; these were measured against dated events in the past, on the assumption that similar events would occur in the future when the same astronomical conditions prevailed.[340] Illustrations in the codices show that priests made astronomical observations using the naked eye, assisted by crossed sticks as a sighting device.[341] Analysis of the few remaining Postclassic codices has revealed that, at the time of European contact, the Maya had recorded eclipse tables, calendars, and astronomical knowledge that was more accurate at that time than comparable knowledge in Europe.

The Maya measured the 584-day Venus cycle with an error of just two hours. Five cycles of Venus equated to eight 365-day haab calendrical cycles, and this period was recorded in the codices. The Maya also followed the movements of Jupiter, Mars and Mercury. When Venus rose as the Morning Star, this was associated with the rebirth of the Maya Hero Twins.[343] For the Maya, the heliacal rising of Venus was associated with destruction and upheaval.[341] Venus was closely associated with warfare, and the hieroglyph meaning "war" incorporated the glyph-element symbolizing the planet.[344] Sight-lines through the windows of the Caracol building at Chichen Itza align with the northernmost and southernmost extremes of Venus' path.[341] Maya rulers launched military campaigns to coincide with the heliacal or cosmical rising of Venus, and would also sacrifice important captives to coincide with such conjunctions.

Solar and lunar eclipses were considered to be especially dangerous events that could bring catastrophe upon the world. In the Dresden Codex, a solar eclipse is represented by a serpent devouring the kʼin ("day") hieroglyph. Eclipses were interpreted as the sun or moon being bitten, and lunar tables were recorded in order that the Maya might be able to predict them, and perform the appropriate ceremonies to ward off disaster.”

“Religion and mythology

In common with the rest of Mesoamerica, the Maya believed in a supernatural realm inhabited by an array of powerful deities who needed to be placated with ceremonial offerings and ritual practices.[345] At the core of Maya religious practice was the worship of deceased ancestors, who would intercede for their living descendants in dealings with the supernatural realm.[346] The earliest intermediaries between humans and the supernatural were shamans.[347] Maya ritual included the use of hallucinogens for chilan, oracular priests. Visions for the chilan were likely facilitated by consumption of water lilies, which are hallucinogenic in high doses.[348] As the Maya civilization developed, the ruling elite codified the Maya world view into religious cults that justified their right to rule.[345] In the Late Preclassic,[349] this process culminated in the institution of the divine king, the kʼuhul ajaw, endowed with ultimate political and religious power.”

>> Offering prayers and respect to deceased ancestors is also found in the Far-East, like in China and in Ancient Egypt (remember Seti I Temple in Abydos = page 96?)

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bcfde4  No.10178734

>>10178713

(Please read from the start)

“The Maya viewed the cosmos as highly structured. There were thirteen levels in the heavens and nine in the underworld, with the mortal world in between. Each level had four cardinal directions associated with a different colour; north was white, east was red, south was yellow, and west was black. Major deities had aspects associated with these directions and colors.”

>> Just a thought here anons: is this why cabal so attached to number 13? Is it because it represents (supposedly) Heaven? Also, remember the Dendera zodiac anons? Yes, that ceiling that was “stolen” from Egypt and bought (at a super high price) by Louis XVIII of France (Pages 108 – 109): It also had 4 columns to point to the 4 cardinal directions. It’s interesting, isn’t it anons?

“Maya households interred their dead underneath the floors, with offerings appropriate to the social status of the family. There the dead could act as protective ancestors. Maya lineages were patrilineal, so the worship of a prominent male ancestor would be emphasised, often with a household shrine. As Maya society developed, and the elite became more powerful, Maya royalty developed their household shrines into the great pyramids that held the tombs of their ancestors.

Belief in supernatural forces pervaded Maya life and influenced every aspect of it, from the simplest day-to-day activities such as food preparation, to trade, politics, and elite activities. Maya deities governed all aspects of the world, both visible and invisible.[351] The Maya priesthood was a closed group, drawing its members from the established elite; by the Early Classic they were recording increasingly complex ritual information in their hieroglyphic books, including astronomical observations, calendrical cycles, history and mythology. The priests performed public ceremonies that incorporated feasting, bloodletting, incense burning, music, ritual dance, and, on certain occasions, human sacrifice. During the Classic period, the Maya ruler was the high priest, and the direct conduit between mortals and the gods. It is highly likely that, among commoners, shamanism continued in parallel to state religion. By the Postclassic, religious emphasis had changed; there was an increase in worship of the images of deities, and more frequent recourse to human sacrifice.

Archaeologists painstakingly reconstruct these ritual practices and beliefs using several techniques. One important, though incomplete, resource is physical evidence, such as dedicatory caches and other ritual deposits, shrines, and burials with their associated funerary offerings.[353] Maya art, architecture, and writing are another resource, and these can be combined with ethnographic sources, including records of Maya religious practices made by the Spanish during the conquest.”

“Human sacrifice

Blood was viewed as a potent source of nourishment for the Maya deities, and the sacrifice of a living creature was a powerful blood offering. By extension, the sacrifice of a human life was the ultimate offering of blood to the gods, and the most important Maya rituals culminated in human sacrifice. Generally only high status prisoners of war were sacrificed, with lower status captives being used for labor.”

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bcfde4  No.10178755

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>>10178734

(Please read from the start)

“Important rituals such as the dedication of major building projects or the enthronement of a new ruler required a human offering. The sacrifice of an enemy king was the most prized, and such a sacrifice involved decapitation of the captive ruler in a ritual reenactment of the decapitation of the Maya maize god by the death gods. […] Sacrifice by decapitation is depicted in Classic period Maya art, and sometimes took place after the victim was tortured, being variously beaten, scalped, burnt or disemboweled.[355] Another myth associated with decapitation was that of the Hero Twins recounted in the Popol Vuh: playing a ballgame against the gods of the underworld, the heroes achieved victory, but one of each pair of twins was decapitated by their opponents.

During the Postclassic period, the most common form of human sacrifice was heart extraction, influenced by the rites of the Aztecs in the Valley of Mexico;[354] this usually took place in the courtyard of a temple, or upon the summit of the pyramid.[357] In one ritual, the corpse would be skinned by assistant priests, except for the hands and feet, and the officiating priest would then dress himself in the skin of the sacrificial victim and perform a ritual dance symbolizing the rebirth of life.[357] Archaeological investigations indicate that heart sacrifice was practised as early as the Classic period.”

>>> This is absolutely sickening. And it is interesting how “twins” are mentioned in the ballgame against the gods….reminds of the twins Nommo in Dogon culture.

“Deities

The Maya world was populated by a great variety of deities, supernatural entities and sacred forces. The Maya had such a broad interpretation of the sacred that identifying distinct deities with specific functions is inaccurate.[360] The Maya interpretation of deities was closely tied to the calendar, astronomy, and their cosmology.[361] The importance of a deity, its characteristics, and its associations varied according to the movement of celestial bodies. The priestly interpretation of astronomical records and books was therefore crucial, since the priest would understand which deity required ritual propitiation, when the correct ceremonies should be performed, and what would be an appropriate offering. Each deity had four manifestations, associated with the cardinal directions, each identified with a different colour. They also had a dual day-night/life-death aspect.”

“The Popol Vuh was written in the Latin script in early colonial times, and was probably transcribed from a hieroglyphic book by an unknown Kʼicheʼ Maya nobleman.[366] It is one of the most outstanding works of indigenous literature in the Americas.[309] The Popul Vuh recounts the mythical creation of the world, the legend of the Hero Twins, and the history of the Postclassic Kʼicheʼ kingdom.”

“In common with other Mesoamerican cultures, the Maya worshipped feathered serpent deities. Such worship was rare during the Classic period,[369] but by the Postclassic the feathered serpent had spread to both the Yucatán Peninsula and the Guatemalan Highlands”

I know I’ve copy/pasted too many paragraphs about the Mayans but these are needed so you can understand me later on. I rather do it now then come back to it later on. Also anons who are not familiar with the names and culture can get quickly acquainted by reading the notable parts I’ve put up. If anons are interested in more information, they can read the rest in the link. So next I’m going to tackle the myths, gods and see what is said about the Flood, because the Mayans did mention a Flood.

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bcfde4  No.10178763

>>10178755

(Please read from the start)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_mythology

“Maya mythology is part of Mesoamerican mythology and comprises all of the Maya tales in which personified forces of nature, deities, and the heroes interacting with these play the main roles. The myths of the Pre-Hispanic era have to be reconstructed from iconography. Other parts of Mayan like oral tradition (such as animal tales, folk tales, and many moralising stories) are not considered here.”

“Sources

The oldest written Maya myths date from the 16th century and are found in historical sources from the Guatemalan Highlands. The most important of these documents is the Popol Vuh[1] which contains Quichean creation stories and some of the adventures of the Hero Twins, Hunahpu and Xbalanque.

Yucatán is another important region; the Yucatec Books of Chilam Balam contain mythological passages of considerable antiquity, and mythological fragments are found scattered among the early-colonial Spanish chronicles and reports […].

“In the 19th and 20th centuries, anthropologists and local folklorists committed many stories to paper, usually in Spanish or English, and only rarely together with the Mayan language text. Even though most Maya tales are the results of an historical process in which Spanish narrative traditions interacted with native ones, some of the tales reach back well into pre-Spanish times. […]”

“Important early-colonial and recent narrative themes

In Maya narrative, the origin of many natural and cultural phenomena is set out, often with the moral aim of defining the ritual relationship between humankind and its environment. In such a way, one finds explanations about the origin of the heavenly bodies (Sun and Moon, but also Venus, the Pleiades, the Milky Way);

>> Notable = “Venus, the Pleiades, the Milky Way”.

“Cosmogony

The Popol Vuh describes the creation of the earth by a group of creator deities, as well as its sequel. The Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel relates the collapse of the sky and the deluge, followed by the slaying of the earth crocodile, the raising of the sky and the erection of the five World Trees.[8] The Lacandons also knew the tale of the creation of the Underworld.”

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bcfde4  No.10178779

>>10178763

(Please read from the start)

“Creation of Mankind

The Popol Vuh gives a sequence of four efforts at creation: First were animals, then wet clay, wood, then last, the creation of the first ancestors from maize dough. To this, the Lacandons add the creation of the main kin groupings and their 'totemic' animals.[10] A Verapaz myth preserved by Las Casas in his 'Apologética Historia Sumaria'[11] assigns the creation of mankind to artisan gods similar to the Popol Vuh monkey brothers. The creation of humankind is concluded by the Mesoamerican tale of the opening of the Maize (or Sustenance) Mountain by the Lightning deities.”

>> Sounds familiar? Isn’t it similar to 4 divine reigns on Earth in Ancient Egyptian Mythology? (Page 86)

“Reconstructing pre-Spanish mythology

In the seventies, the leading Maya scholar Michael D. Coe identified several actors of the Popol Vuh hero myth on ceramics […].Using bits from monumental inscriptions, Linda Schele even composed a cosmogonic myth for this "First Father", one that still awaits iconographic confirmation. It runs as follows:[23] "Under the aegis of First Father, One-Maize-revealed, three stones were set up at a place called 'Lying-down-sky', forming the image of the sky. First Father had entered the sky and made a house of eight partitions there. He had also raised the Wakah-Chan, the World Tree, so that its crown stood in the north sky. And finally, he had given circular motion to the sky, setting the constellations into their dance through the night.”

“Cosmogony: Defeat of the Great Crocodile

In an early description of a Yucatec fire ritual (Relación de Mérida), a crocodile symbolizes the deluge and the earth; such a crocodile, called Itzam Cab Ain, was instrumental in causing a flood and was defeated by having its throat cut (Books of Chilam Balam of Maní and Tizimín).[24] Pre-Spanish data are suggestive of these events. A water-spewing, deer-hooved celestial reptile on page 74 of the Dresden Codex is generally believed to be causing the deluge. A Postclassic mural from Mayapan shows a tied crocodile in the water,[25] whereas a Classic inscription from Palenque (Temple XIX) mentions the decapitation of a crocodile.”

The deity called Itzamna is linked to the Mayan myth/story of the Flood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzamna

“Itzamna (Mayan pronunciation: [itsamˈna]) was, in Maya mythology, the name of an upper god and creator deity thought to reside in the sky. Although little is known about him, scattered references are present in early-colonial Spanish reports (relaciones) and dictionaries. Twentieth-century Lacandon lore includes tales about a creator god (Nohochakyum or Hachakyum) who may be a late successor to him. In the pre-Spanish period, Itzamna, represented by the aged god D, was often depicted in books and in ceramic scenes derived from them.”

“J. Eric S. Thompson originally interpreted the name Itzamna as "lizard house", itzam being a Yucatecan word for iguana and naaj meaning "house".[2] However, Thompson's translation has gradually been abandoned. While there is no consensus on the exact meaning of the name Itzamna, it may be significant that itz is a root denoting all sorts of secretions (such as dew, sap, and semen) and also sorcery. The otherwise unattested, agentive form itzam could thus mean "asperser" or "sorcerer".

>> It is believed that Itzamna is linked to serpents or reptiles. The “secretions” may insinuate that he is also seen as a fertility god for crops; it might be one of his many faces.

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bcfde4  No.10178825

>>10178779

(Please read from the start)

“Creation of Mankind

The Popol Vuh gives a sequence of four efforts at creation: First were animals, then wet clay, wood, then last, the creation of the first ancestors from maize dough. To this, the Lacandons add the creation of the main kin groupings and their 'totemic' animals.[10] A Verapaz myth preserved by Las Casas in his 'Apologética Historia Sumaria'[11] assigns the creation of mankind to artisan gods similar to the Popol Vuh monkey brothers. The creation of humankind is concluded by the Mesoamerican tale of the opening of the Maize (or Sustenance) Mountain by the Lightning deities.”

>> Sounds familiar? Isn’t it similar to 4 divine reigns on Earth in Ancient Egyptian Mythology? (Page 86)

“Reconstructing pre-Spanish mythology

In the seventies, the leading Maya scholar Michael D. Coe identified several actors of the Popol Vuh hero myth on ceramics […].Using bits from monumental inscriptions, Linda Schele even composed a cosmogonic myth for this "First Father", one that still awaits iconographic confirmation. It runs as follows:[23] "Under the aegis of First Father, One-Maize-revealed, three stones were set up at a place called 'Lying-down-sky', forming the image of the sky. First Father had entered the sky and made a house of eight partitions there. He had also raised the Wakah-Chan, the World Tree, so that its crown stood in the north sky. And finally, he had given circular motion to the sky, setting the constellations into their dance through the night.”

“Cosmogony: Defeat of the Great Crocodile

In an early description of a Yucatec fire ritual (Relación de Mérida), a crocodile symbolizes the deluge and the earth; such a crocodile, called Itzam Cab Ain, was instrumental in causing a flood and was defeated by having its throat cut (Books of Chilam Balam of Maní and Tizimín).[24] Pre-Spanish data are suggestive of these events. A water-spewing, deer-hooved celestial reptile on page 74 of the Dresden Codex is generally believed to be causing the deluge. A Postclassic mural from Mayapan shows a tied crocodile in the water,[25] whereas a Classic inscription from Palenque (Temple XIX) mentions the decapitation of a crocodile.”

The deity called Itzamna is linked to the Mayan myth/story of the Flood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzamna

“Itzamna (Mayan pronunciation: [itsamˈna]) was, in Maya mythology, the name of an upper god and creator deity thought to reside in the sky. Although little is known about him, scattered references are present in early-colonial Spanish reports (relaciones) and dictionaries. Twentieth-century Lacandon lore includes tales about a creator god (Nohochakyum or Hachakyum) who may be a late successor to him. In the pre-Spanish period, Itzamna, represented by the aged god D, was often depicted in books and in ceramic scenes derived from them.”

“J. Eric S. Thompson originally interpreted the name Itzamna as "lizard house", itzam being a Yucatecan word for iguana and naaj meaning "house".[2] However, Thompson's translation has gradually been abandoned. While there is no consensus on the exact meaning of the name Itzamna, it may be significant that itz is a root denoting all sorts of secretions (such as dew, sap, and semen) and also sorcery. The otherwise unattested, agentive form itzam could thus mean "asperser" or "sorcerer".

>> It is believed that Itzamna is linked to serpents or reptiles. The “secretions” may insinuate that he is also seen as a fertility god for crops; it might be one of his many faces.

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105642  No.10183213

File: 2b379272f1b1324⋯.jpg (48.34 KB, 1280x550, 128:55, A_prayer_for_Lebanon.jpg)

This is the old man,

In these dark hours, i would like to ask anons reading this to say a prayer for Lebanon.

Land of the Cedars, when darkness comes for you, I shall light a candle to vanquish it.

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e835cf  No.10188522

>>10178779

(Please read from the start)

“Early colonial reports

The early colonial sources variously connect, and sometimes identify, Itzamna with Hunab Ku (an invisible high god), Kinich Ahau (the sun deity), and Yaxcocahmut (a bird of omen).

The most reliable source on Itzamna, Diego de Landa, mentions him several times in the framework of his description of the ritual year. In the month of Uo, a ritual aspersion of the books took place under invocation of Kinich Ahau Itzamna, "the first priest". In the month of Zip, Itzamna was invoked as one of the gods of medicine, and in the month of Mac, he was venerated by the very old on a par with the Chaacs, the rain deities. In the cycle of four years, one year was under the patronage of Itzamna.

Itzamna was an active creator god, as is shown by the following. Confirming Landa's description of the book ritual above, (Hun-)Itzamna is stated by Diego López de Cogolludo to have invented the priestly art of writing. According to this same author, Itzamna (now written Zamna) had been a sort of priest who divided the land of Yucatán and assigned names to all of its features. More generally, Itzamna was the creator of humankind, and also the father of Bacab (Francisco Hernández), a fourfold deity of the interior of the earth. In an alternative tradition, Itzamna begot thirteen sons with Ixchel, two of whom created the earth and humankind (Las Casas).”

>> From what I posted before about the Mayans, the high priest was also the ruler or king of the city-state; so it shouldn’t surprise anons that their deity also has this dual function.

“High priest and rule

God D is sometimes dressed as a high priest, and hieroglyphically identified as the god of rulership. Speaking generally, Classic iconography confirms god D's identity as an upper god, seated on his celestial throne while governing, among other things, the affairs of agriculture and the hunt.”

“Crust of the Earth: Caiman

On two of the Dresden Codex's very first pages, god D is shown within the maw of a caiman representing the earth; a case has been made for identifying the caiman as the deity's transformation (Thompson, Taube).”

>> Even if the “reptile” significance of the name is “disputed” Itzamna is still linked to them via the Caiman.

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d4f899  No.10195444

File: b951d9d78df77db⋯.jpg (283.25 KB, 2142x1940, 1071:970, 2443_521_225242_B09_o7_PAI….jpg)

>>10169598

SKY MAPS

>>10136984

Horses Fly - Do they NOW?

How is that?

Ask The Owners

Why?

Notch Sure

Got Belt

Will BoX

And Travel

Show Up

Well Groomed

Off To the Show

BREADS and BREEDS

Wow Who's that empirical Vet?

WBBGHorseFly

OnTheWall

What did LaVoy Ride?

What Did Bundy Ride?

Who was Sally Ride?

Know Your History!

What is the most popular Jumping Breed today? Why - How Big is it?

You low a Quart!

>>10194065

Can I get rid of the old reverse montage now?

Mort-age is/was enslavement.

Why even apply if you know that there is going to be an issue… Or is this issues one for us, the people?

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004a33  No.10199086

File: b69ecf555505763⋯.jpg (515.71 KB, 1920x619, 1920:619, Itzamna_as_terrestrial_cro….jpg)

>>10188522

(Please read from the start)

“Itzam Cab Ain is believed to be his terrestrial aspect, meaning “Cayman of Earth Itzam” and assumes a prominent role in the narratives of creation in maya mythology, The gods used its body to make the earth after killing it. The myth begins with a cataclysm caused by the saurian after vomiting the fluid that floods the earth. Then, the gods decapitate the reptile to stop the flood. Later, the body of the lizard falls on the earth and on its four corners are placed the four world trees to raise and hold the sky that had collapsed.”

>> Notable: “hold the sky that had collapsed”.

“Principal Bird Deity

From the Late Postclassic Paris Codex back in time to the Pre-Classic San Bartolo murals, god D (Itzamna) has the so-called Principal Bird Deity - perhaps the Yaxcocahmut mentioned above - for a transformative shape (see figure). The bird often holds a bicephalous snake in its beak. Its head sometimes resembles that of a rain deity; at other times, it is more like that of a bird of prey, perhaps the laughing falcon believed to be a harbinger of rain.[6] The wings are repeatedly inscribed with the signs for "daylight" and "night", suggesting that the bird's flight could represent the unfolding of time. The San Bartolo murals have a Principal Bird Deity seated on top of each of four world trees, recalling the four world trees (together with a fifth, central tree) which, according to some of the early-colonial Chilam Balam books, were re-erected after the collapse of the sky. These world trees were associated with specific birds. Four world trees also appear in the Mexican Borgia Codex. The shooting of the Principal Bird deity is one of the main episodes of the Classic Period Hero Twins myth; but strong arguments plead against the Principal Bird Deity's equation with Vucub Caquix, a bird demon shot by the Popol Vuh Twins.”

>> Birds can also be referring to the ability to FLY/FLIGHT, not just the animal (like the Saqqara bird). And as his name “might” suggest, Itzamna is connected to fertility = rain and crops. The concept of “daylight” and “night” reminds of me Ra’s trip during the day and his battle with Apep in the underworld during the night. Take note: the bicephalic snake; and WORLD TREES: “recalling the four world trees (together with the fifth, central tree)”.

So we have, AGAIN, the snake, the tree, the flood (like in the Epic of Gilgamesh – page 37) = all linked to a higher creator god of humans, teaching mankind any WISE and useful stuff like writing.

“Human representatives

God D and his avian transformation could be represented by human beings. Various kings of Yaxchilan, Dos Pilas, and Naranjo had Itzamnaaj as part of their names or titles. On Palenque's Temple XIX platform, a dignitary presenting the king with his royal headband wears the Principal Bird Deity's headdress, while being referred to as Itzamnaaj. In his bird avatar, god D here appears as the creator god bestowing rulership on a king.”

>> I just noticed something anons: the bird headdress or the bird headband of the Mayans, it reminds me of the iconography of Ra = human body with head of bird – and the supposed deity/aliens of the Annunaki with human body and head + wings of a bird. What about the Masks the Dogon people wear? Are we dealing with the same concept here?

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004a33  No.10199122

File: b2968c830e74f59⋯.jpg (83.03 KB, 512x371, 512:371, Did_the_maya_depict_the_Gr….jpg)

File: be09fd896815887⋯.png (85.23 KB, 350x250, 7:5, Coracle.png)

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>>10199086

(Please read from the start)

Since the Mayan myths/stories didn’t come down to us directly (very few did), but some were “reconstructed” while others were transmitted from Spanish observation and writings about them; we should check for archeological artifacts. I keep on telling anons that the text should match the archaeological artifact and not the artifact should match the text, and this case is no exception.

After looking, I found this relief taken fromTikal and it was in the Berlin Museum. It is reported that it was “destroyed” during WWII. How convenient! It’s just how ISIS destroyed the artifacts, sculptors and monuments in Iraq and Syria. Gives you the impression someone was trying to “erase” evidence, or pretend it’s gone while they hoard them (((themselves))).

Upon examination, we can see: Itzamna in a “CORACLE” rowing (compare with coracle – pages 15 to 17). He is wearing headband with feathers on it (Hunter palette – page 115), which some believe it’s the headset of a “feathered” serpent. The entire landscape is covered with water, apart what seem to be only the “cone” of a volcano in full eruption. Right in front of the coracle, there is a person, either dead or drowning; as well as “fish”. From Mayan glyphs we know that “island” (supposedly) was situated in the EAST.

This is very very interesting, isn’t it anons? Remember that Mt Ararat is a volcano; the Armenians used coracles = kuphars; and Noah’s Ark (= survivors) “landed” on Mt Ararat (Pages 25-26). Anyone apart me see the similarities? Combine the fossils on the terrain around the Ark and all the fossils we see in the countries around the Med Sea (pages 218 to 224) along with this relief. The pieces are coming together in a perfect fit. In page 226, I talked about the land splitting between Africa and the Middle East (the Great Rift) that created the Red Sea; which meant Earthquakes….and I noticed many volcanoes scattered along that rift, which we can assume were erupting if there was a massive earthquake that created the rift. And in this relief, we can see the volcano in the background in full eruption. Again, the pieces are getting together and fitting perfectly. Last point: in the Epic of Gilgamesh as well as the Flood myth in Mesoamerica mention the death of many people because of the Flood = represented on the relief.

In a parallel note: Gucumatz or Kulkukan, is some sort of a feathered snake, whom along with Tepeu created the world.

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c081e2  No.10210329

File: 6b3a536f898af06⋯.png (523.3 KB, 800x1335, 160:267, Pacal_the_Great_tomb_lid.png)

>>10199122

(Please read from the start)

There is one Out-of-Place Artifact in the Mayan culture that I am aware of and we are going to take a look at it next:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact

“Pacal's sarcophagus lid: Described by Erich von Däniken as a depiction of a spaceship.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%CA%BCinich_Janaab%CA%BC_Pakal#Iconography_of_Pakal's_sarcophagus_lid

“Kʼinich Janaab Pakal I (Mayan pronunciation: [kʼihniʧ xanaːɓ pakal]), also known as Pacal, Pacal the Great, 8 Ahau and Sun Shield (March 603 – August 683),[1] was ajaw of the Maya city-state of Palenque in the Late Classic period of pre-Columbian Mesoamerican chronology. He acceded to the throne in July 615 and ruled until his death. During a reign of 68 years—the fifth-longest verified regnal period of any sovereign monarch in history, the longest in world history for more than a millennium,[N 2] and still the second longest in the history of the Americas —Pakal was responsible for the construction or extension of some of Palenque's most notable surviving inscriptions and monumental architecture. Pakal is perhaps best-known in popular culture for his depiction on the carved lid of his sarcophagus, which has become the subject of pseudoarchaeological speculations.”

>> Let us give (((them))) credit for not using the word “fringe” but using the word “speculations” instead. LoL!

[…]

“Early life

Kʼinich Janaab Pakal I was born on 9.8.9.13.0 - March 603. This was a particularly violent time in the history of Palenque; two years later, in 605, Palenque was attacked by the Mayan state of Kaan, and a new ruler was instated. Then again Kaan sacked Palenque when he was eight and nine (in 610 and 611). Pakal ascended the throne at age 12 and lived to the age of 80. He was preceded as ruler of Palenque by his mother, Lady Sak Kʼukʼ as the Palenque dynasty seems to have had Queens only when there was no eligible male heir; Sak Kʼukʼ transferred rulership to her son upon his official maturity.

In 626 Pakal married Ix Tzʼakbu Ajaw who was born in Uxteʼkʼuh. Tzʼakbu Ajaw was a descendant of the Toktahn dynasty, the original dynasty of Palenque.”

>> Reminds me of queens Puabi in Sumer and Hatchepsut in Egypt.

“Reign

[…]

After his death, Pakal was deified and was said to communicate with his descendants. He was succeeded by his son, Kʼinich Kan Bahlam II.”

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c081e2  No.10210339

File: 0892230fc8792df⋯.jpg (64 KB, 800x600, 4:3, Ajuar_funerario_de_Pakal_e….jpg)

File: 7fe11f93089f70d⋯.jpg (295.7 KB, 900x607, 900:607, pakal_sarcophagus_lid_2_ga….jpg)

>>10210329

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“Burial

Pakal was buried in a colossal sarcophagus in the largest of Palenque's stepped pyramid structures, the building called Bʼolon Yej Teʼ Naah "House of the Nine Sharpened Spears"[12] in Classic Maya and now known as the Temple of the Inscriptions. Though Palenque had been examined by archaeologists before, the secret to opening his tomb — closed off by a stone slab with stone plugs in the holes, which had until then escaped the attention of archaeologists—was discovered by Mexican archaeologist Alberto Ruz Lhuillier in 1948. It took four years to clear the rubble from the stairway leading down to Pakal's tomb, but it was finally uncovered in 1952.[13] His skeletal remains were still lying in his coffin, wearing a jade mask and bead necklaces, surrounded by sculptures and stucco reliefs depicting the ruler's transition to divinity and figures from Maya mythology. Traces of pigment show that these were once colorfully painted, common of much Maya sculpture at the time.

Whether the bones in the tomb are really those of Pakal is under debate because analysis of the wear on the skeleton's teeth places the age of the owner at death as 40 years younger than Pakal would have been at his death. Epigraphers insist that the inscriptions on the tomb indicate that it is indeed Kʼinich Janaabʼ Pakal entombed within, and that he died at the age of 80 after ruling for around 70 years. Some contest that the glyphs refer to two people with the same name or that an unusual method for recording time was used, but other experts in the field say that allowing for such possibilities would go against everything else that is known about the Maya calendar and records of events. The most commonly accepted explanation for the irregularity is that Pakal, being an aristocrat, had access to softer, less abrasive food than the average person so that his teeth naturally acquired less wear.

An underground water tunnel was found under the Temple of Inscriptions in 2016. Later on, a mask of Pakal was discovered in August 2018”.

“Iconography of Pakal's sarcophagus lidIconography of Pakal's sarcophagus lid

The large carved stone sarcophagus lid in the Temple of Inscriptions is a unique piece of Classic Maya art. Iconographically, however, it is closely related to the large wall panels of the temples of the Cross and the Foliated Cross centered on world trees. Around the edges of the lid is a band with cosmological signs, including those for sun, moon, and star, as well as the heads of six named noblemen of varying rank.[18] The central image is that of a cruciform world tree. Beneath Pakal is one of the heads of a celestial two-headed serpent viewed frontally. Both the king and the serpent head on which he seems to rest are framed by the open jaws of a funerary serpent, a common iconographic device for signalling entrance into, or residence in, the realm(s) of the dead. The king himself wears the attributes of the Tonsured maize god - in particular a turtle ornament on the breast - and is shown in a peculiar posture that may denote rebirth.[19] Interpretation of the lid has raised controversy. Linda Schele saw Pakal falling down the Milky Way into the southern horizon.

Pseudoarchaeology

Pakal's tomb has been the subject of ancient astronaut hypotheses since its appearance in Erich von Däniken's 1968 best-seller Chariots of the Gods?. Von Däniken reproduced a drawing of the sarcophagus lid, incorrectly labeling it as being from "Copán" and comparing Pacal's pose to that of Project Mercury astronauts in the 1960s. Von Däniken interprets drawings underneath him as rockets, and offers it as possible evidence of an extraterrestrial influence on the ancient Maya.

In the center of that frame is a man sitting, bending forward. He has a mask on his nose, he uses his two hands to manipulate some controls, and the heel of his left foot is on a kind of pedal with different adjustments. The rear portion is separated from him; he is sitting on a complicated chair, and outside of this whole frame, you see a little flame like an exhaust.”

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686d37  No.10223020

File: acc90d1e78b5134⋯.jpg (28.25 KB, 800x593, 800:593, Toltec_influence_cities_ma….jpg)

>>10210339

(Please read from the start)

>> What do I think of this sarcophagus lid? Well, I’m 50/50 split about its interpretation, since I’m unfamiliar with the civilization. But it’s important to note that just like in Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt, the NOTION of FLIGHT is present here, no matter how you interpret the lid carvings. Either he ascended to Heavens in a spiritual way or if this was a real spaceship, FLIGHT in present. Also it’s a FACT that Mayans had very advanced astronomical knowledge, as well as in Mathematics. So at this stage, everything is possible. With this I conclude the Mayans. If I missed anything, please bring it to attention. I’m going to talk about Teotihuacan at the end.

My next stop is the Toltec civilization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toltec_Empire

“According to Mesoamerican historiography, the Toltec Empire,[3] Toltec Kingdom[4] or Altepetl Tollan[1] was a political entity in modern Mexico. It existed through the classic and post-classic periods of Mesoamerican chronology, but gained most of its power in the post-classic. During this time its sphere of influence reached as far away as the Yucatan Peninsula.

The capital city of this empire was Tollan-Xicocotitlan,[5] while other important cities included Tulancingo,[6] and Huapalcalco, although some more distant cities like Chupícuaro, Chichen Itza, and Coba seem to have been under Toltec control or influence at some point.”

“Oral traditions about the origin of Toltecs were collected by historians like Mariano de Veytia[7] and Carlos María de Bustamante[8] in the early 19th century. According to said accounts, there was a city named Tlachicatzin in a country ruled by the city of Huehuetlapallan, whose inhabitants called the people of Tlachicatzin "Toltecah", for their fame as dexterous artisans.[7] In 583, led by two notables named Chalcaltzin and Tlacamihtzin, the Toltecah rebelled against their overlords in Huehuetlapallan[8] and after thirteen years of resistance they ended up fleeing Tlachicatzin.[7] Some of the Toltecah later founded a new settlement called Tlapallanconco in 604,[8] but others continued their migration.”

>> Notable: 1 – “for their fame as dexterous artisans”. 2 – Migration occurred.

“These narrations about the origin of the Toltecs have been disputed by archaeologists and historians like Manuel Gamio,[10] Enrique Florescano[10] and Laurette Séjourné;[11] who had identified the Toltec city of Tollan with Teotihuacan, although this hypothesis has been criticized by many scholars, most notably historian Miguel León-Portilla.”

“The dynastic history of the Toltecs was recorded by several pre-Columbian and Colonial sources, although there are contradictions in most of them. Some sources say that a man named Huemac,[14] was the leader of the Toltecs when they arrive into Man-he-mi, while others begin the list of Toltec rulers, or tlatoani, with Chalchiutlanetzin,[15] with Mixcoamatzatzin,[14] or even with Cē Ācatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl.”

“Historians like Alfredo Chavero investigated the numerous proposed lists of Toltec rulers presented in the works of authors like Fernando de Alva Ixtlilxóchitl and Juan de Torquemada, and in anonymous sources like the Codex Chimalpopoca. According to Chavero, his research led him to conclude that most of the traditional recounts of the Toltec royalty are not reliable because they were recorded in a style similar to the medieval Chansons de geste,[2] something that became evident once he realised that most of the reigns of the Toltec monarchs lasted 52 years, which is exactly the duration of the 52 year-long cycle of the Mesoamerican calendars,[2] known in nahuatl as Xiuhmolpilli. Therefore, Chavero concluded, that most of the traditional Toltec royal accounts and exploits must be legendary in nature.”

>> This is interesting. A 52 year cycle in concordance with the calendar.

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686d37  No.10223029

>>10223020

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“According to the Anales de Cuauhtitlan, the city of Tollan-Xicocotitlan was ruled by the priest-king Cē Ācatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl from 923 to 947.[14] This ruler was born in the year 895[20][4] at Michatlauhco, a place which according to Mexican archaeologist Wigberto Jiménez Moreno could be located near the present-day town of Tepoztlán, in the Mexican state of Morelos.[21]

Quetzalcoatl was regarded as a wise and benevolent ruler, who made Tollan a "prosperous city in which their inhabitants -the Toltecs- were endowed with great qualities".[22] At the same time he was regarded as a holy and pious man, who engaged regularly in acts of penance.[22] Cē Ācatl Topiltzin preached against the practice of human sacrifices, arguing that the supreme deity whose name he took for himself wasn't pleased with the practice of ritual killings.”

>>WOW! This is a big NOTABLE = he was AGAINST the practice of HUMAN SACRIFICES.

“According to Bernardino de Sahagún,[24] one day, Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl was visited by an elderly man (said to be Tezcatlipoca in disguise[22]) who offered him a "medicine" that would make him younger; said medicine was just a bowl of pulque, and after tasting it, the king invited his sister, the priestess Quetzalpetlatl, to drink with him, with both getting drunk soon after.[25] Because of their drunkness, both siblings forgot their sacred duties and acted in disgraceful maner,[22] thus damaging their reputation. After this humiliation, Quetzalcoatl left Tollan in 947, and traveled to the east, to the mythical land of Tlapallan, which according to tradition was located on the Gulf of Mexico coast,[20] there, Quetzalcoatl took a canoe and immolated himself.”

>> Involuntary incest? Or are they trying to tell us this is the origins of royal incest marriage to keep the bloodline pure, just like in Egypt?

“Regardless of the exact date of Quetzalcoatl's death, traditional accounts indicate that at the end of the 10th century, a religious war broke between members of the cult of Tezcatlipoca and supporters of Quetzalcoatl.[4][27] The adherents of Quetzalcoatl didn't favour large-scale human sacrifices, which were largely suppressed by Ce Acatl Topiltzin during his reign, while the adherents of Tezcatlipoca regarded them as an essential part of their religion […]”

>> So the difference in opinion about the practice of human sacrifices created a rift in the Toltec society.

“According to Diego Durán, the conflict was brief, but eventually a second war between the two groups broke out.[4] This war lasted from 1046 to 1110, and ended with the defeat of the followers of Quetzalcoatl.[4] Because of the violence, many of those who supported Ce Acatl Topiltzin fled Tollan, with a sizeable portion of these exiles heading towards the Maya cultural area.”

>> I don’t know why, but the events of this story remind me of the reactions to Akhenaton’s new religion in Ancient Egypt. New “ideas” are not accepted that easily.

“The ethno-religious conflicts between the Nonoalca and the Chichimeca, along with the great famine that affected Tollan between 1070 and 1077,[4] led to a series of important migrations from Tollan to other parts of Mesoamerica in the late 11th century and early 12th century.[27] One of these groups of Toltec exiles eventually took over the city of Cholula, in the present-day Mexican state of Puebla, around 1200.”

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